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Common misconceptions about God and the Bible #1 - Hell is seperation from God.

submitted by 1point21jiggawatts to whatever 10 monthsJul 1, 2024 13:34:06 ago (+4/-2)     (whatever)

A lot of well-meaning believers and false converts try to make God seem "nicer" than He is. They try to turn Him into something softer than He is. One thing you might hear them say is something like "God doesn't send anyone to hell, it's just that if you reject God in this life He honors that request and allows you to be apart from Him eternally."

Well the Bible disagrees. Here's a couple passages of the many that disprove that view:

John 3:36

"He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him."

Revelation 20:15

"And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."

And finally very clearly Revelation 14:10 proves that Hell is not outside the presence of God as it tells us where people in Hell are in relation to God:

"...shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb

The Lamb is Jesus, aka God the Son.


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[ - ] Rastafoo 1 point 10 monthsJul 1, 2024 14:59:50 ago (+1/-0)

Facts Facts

[ - ] boekanier 0 points 10 monthsJul 2, 2024 05:37:51 ago (+0/-0)

About god, everybody knows everything. Amazing.

[ - ] 1point21jiggawatts [op] 0 points 10 monthsJul 2, 2024 10:54:41 ago (+0/-0)

We know what He told us.

[ - ] HelenHighwater 0 points 10 monthsJul 1, 2024 13:55:37 ago (+2/-2)

god is so angry all the time. Creates little people and gives them "free will". Demands they worship him...or else.

[ - ] 1point21jiggawatts [op] 0 points 10 monthsJul 1, 2024 14:26:46 ago (+1/-1)

11 God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day.

12 If he turn not, he will whet his sword; he hath bent his bow, and made it ready.

[ - ] HelenHighwater 0 points 10 monthsJul 1, 2024 14:49:48 ago (+2/-2)

Cruelty in the bible never ceases to amaze me. god gets pissed off and drowns every living thing. What did the animals do to deserve such a cruel death? What about the newborns? Silly, really. Then every dozen or so pages, god commands someone to gather an animal, or a sibling, and senselessly slaughter them, just to make god feel better.

Then there is Lot. What a guy. "Just and Righteously" sends his virgin daughters out to be brutally raped, to spare some "angels". Then his wife gets salty about god raining fire on some cities (again, mass murder of his own people). Oh! then his daughters incestuously rape him! Awesome!

It really is one bloodfest with some good old rape, incest, and vengeance sprinkled in.


[ - ] 1point21jiggawatts [op] 1 point 10 monthsJul 1, 2024 15:27:56 ago (+1/-0)

And thus you declare in your heart tyourself to be more just than your God.

We'll see how that defense holds up with the judge.

[ - ] HelenHighwater 0 points 10 monthsJul 1, 2024 15:34:29 ago (+0/-0)

And you deem to speak with an authority you do not command.

[ - ] Love240 1 point 10 monthsJul 1, 2024 15:49:29 ago (+1/-0)

But rather an authority that we have been given, as we work in Christ and Christ in us.
We are priests of God's kingdom. We do indeed speak with authority, the authority of Lord Jesus.

[ - ] HelenHighwater 0 points 10 monthsJul 1, 2024 15:55:24 ago (+0/-0)

Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves. Numbers 31:1-18

[ - ] Love240 1 point 10 monthsJul 1, 2024 15:59:57 ago (+1/-0)

Yep, that's a verse... With absolutely no context. I bet you think you're clever.

Children of the serpent are not to be spared. Entire peoples were given over to worshiping Ba'al. They sacrificed their children in fire. Even the little ones were corrupted.

You think you know better than your creator.
We'll see how that does for you on the day of judgement.

[ - ] HelenHighwater -1 points 10 monthsJul 1, 2024 16:02:14 ago (+0/-1)

It is the word of you one true holy god. How dare you question context.

[ - ] Love240 0 points 10 monthsJul 1, 2024 16:06:14 ago (+0/-0)

I don't. You do.

Context:
Numbers 21:16 Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the Lord in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the Lord.

You are without excuse, having had this explained to you.

[ - ] Zyklonbeekeeper 0 points 10 monthsJul 1, 2024 15:18:54 ago (+0/-0)

"But God works in mysterious ways"...that's the way out when God and his works can't be explained or understood....

[ - ] 1point21jiggawatts [op] 1 point 10 monthsJul 1, 2024 15:26:37 ago (+1/-0)

Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?

[ - ] Zyklonbeekeeper 0 points 10 monthsJul 1, 2024 20:17:58 ago (+0/-0)

"SEEK ye wisdom whilst it may be found"..."oh lord lend ear to my supplications"..."respect the old fir they have achieved wisdom"..."ask and thou shalt receive"..."why has thou forsaken me oh lord"...so many questions, so many answers for which there are no questions, so many questions but answers are forbidden...is the teacher not to be questioned?...my epitaph will be "confusion"

[ - ] 1point21jiggawatts [op] 0 points 10 monthsJul 2, 2024 11:27:16 ago (+0/-0)

[10] And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables? [11] He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

[ - ] HelenHighwater 0 points 10 monthsJul 1, 2024 16:06:59 ago (+0/-0)

Thee shall lie upon the grass and eat round cakes until the blood of egypt flows through thy testicles and a mad pack of thine sheep shall hast shat upon the rock of thy ancestors!

[ - ] 1point21jiggawatts [op] 1 point 10 monthsJul 1, 2024 16:26:56 ago (+1/-0)

Every time you start talking about things that are good and holy these demented faggots come crawling out of the woodwork.

[ - ] HelenHighwater 1 point 10 monthsJul 1, 2024 16:29:58 ago (+1/-0)

It is because you posted in "whatever". If you want to proselytize, why not do it in a sub with like-minded people. Then you can bask in the self-congratulatory warm glow of mutual religious masturbation.

[ - ] 1point21jiggawatts [op] 1 point 10 monthsJul 1, 2024 16:41:34 ago (+1/-0)

I'll post truth where I see fit and you feel free to keep spewing demented faggotry wherever your demons direct you.

[ - ] HelenHighwater 0 points 10 monthsJul 1, 2024 16:48:07 ago (+1/-1)

Your god committed genocide. Your truth is poison.

[ - ] Love240 0 points 10 monthsJul 1, 2024 17:00:40 ago (+0/-0)

Mad that your child murderer buddies didn't get off the hook scot-free?

[ - ] 1point21jiggawatts [op] 0 points 10 monthsJul 1, 2024 17:32:16 ago (+0/-0)

No one on earth cares what you think faggot.

[ - ] Zyklonbeekeeper 1 point 10 monthsJul 1, 2024 18:14:16 ago (+1/-0)

"Lie" is pretty accurate but I choose to "lay" on the grass

[ - ] boekanier 0 points 10 monthsJul 2, 2024 05:40:40 ago (+0/-0)

that's the jewish god, really nasty that one

[ - ] Master_Foo 0 points 10 monthsJul 1, 2024 13:47:13 ago (+0/-0)

Imagine giving a fuck about the afterlife of Jews.

Die a heroic death in service of White Blood and White Soil, not for the sake of a Jewish-God.

[ - ] Lordbananafist 0 points 10 monthsJul 1, 2024 13:54:35 ago (+0/-0)

Putting a light on all the geography talk from the Bible helps illustrate the potential that we goys have been programmed to externalize costs.

[ - ] Love240 0 points 10 monthsJul 1, 2024 15:52:54 ago (+0/-0)

Without a creator that holds us responsible it's always someone else's problem. This is an artifact of unbelief, not belief.

[ - ] Lordbananafist 0 points 10 monthsJul 1, 2024 17:11:36 ago (+0/-0)

Then what’s with all the geography talk in the manual?

Go to one of those Bible googles and search “cast out”.

I didn’t even mention god btw

[ - ] Love240 0 points 10 monthsJul 1, 2024 17:50:12 ago (+0/-0)

I'm not following, can you please elaborate.

[ - ] Lordbananafist 0 points 10 monthsJul 1, 2024 21:47:33 ago (+0/-0)

Buncha goddamn transportation monkeys is what it is!