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Thoughts wanted. I've been following AI a lot and it can do so many office tasks right now that we're going to start seeing people get fired real fast not a year from now but within months. I don't even know what the dynamic in an office is going to be anymore.

submitted by Crackinjokes to AskUpgoat 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 19:43:39 ago (+5/-1)     (AskUpgoat)

Thoughts wanted. I've been following AI a lot and it can do so many office tasks right now that we're going to start seeing people get fired real fast not a year from now but within months. I don't even know what the dynamic in an office is going to be anymore.

I'm just wondering your thoughts. I mean they're still going to need people for physical things like construction and I guess manufacturing but I am not kidding when I say the developments in ai and I've been really playing with them very closely are so fast that a whole lot of people are going to get replaced and I'll probably already are getting replaced in offices. And I don't even know what the Dynamics are going to be. Business owners are going to say well I've got an automatic sales response system that can close deals better than the sales people they've got automatic accounting automatic call return automatic email handling they're going to have really great analysis.


Now the people who have licenses that are required to work like real estate brokers and doctors and lawyers and I guess CPAs are still going to be required but it's not going to be because they can do the job better. It's going to be because the law requires that there be a person that has a license to do it but I think even those jobs are going to be consolidated with like one figurehead person with a license over a lot of the jobs.

I'm just wondering what people thoughts are about this because there's typically a smarter than average bunch here.



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[ - ] VitaminSieg 0 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 23:42:28 ago (+0/-0)

They said computers were going to replace paperwork, but I can tell you that definitely did not happen in the legal profession.

[ - ] MaryXmas 0 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 22:23:27 ago (+0/-0)

Learn how to write prompts and build technical requirements for products. - build the robots if you must.

[ - ] HonkyMcNiggerSpic -1 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 21:46:05 ago (+0/-1)

Nope. It all falls in line with the universal pay idea. Then the moment babies are born and jews steal their foreskin for their face creams they will implant the chip by their thumb and that chip will have all their info on it and its how everything will be paid and connected to everything. If you say wrongthink they turn your chip off and no ramen soup for you! Humans won't have jobs anymore other than catering to non-whites.

[ - ] symbolic 0 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 20:24:54 ago (+1/-1)

You made me sign in because i like this sort of stuff.

Anyone going to collage right now is a fucking idiot in my opinion. That degree, unless its a (very) hard science, will be worthless in less then 4 years. Automated Advancement is what will push us past the s curve of Moore's law. That being said, DNN's are dumb as fuck - they are not useful until they are useful, and then they are only useful for that one thing.

I work with video game AI using general text predictors to help my design and development. A DNN is not going to be controlling your mobs, running around and doing stuff. That would be useful only for that specific game. So if you roll out an update or a sequel, anything with new features that the users can engage with, then you need to retrain your DNN. Maybe hot fixes in the form of LORA's or something, but still, its not going to be as smooth and as versatile as a GOFAI (Good old fashioned AI).

Sure, you can have an NPC give real world dialogue at the drop of a hat, or have audio generated from video (V2A: https://maskvat.github.io/) - but you gotta remember, thats all they do. Thats it. Its not your one stop shop for agile UI or mobs understanding and deciding what they ought to do next in a sequence of moves (like with GOAP or NEAT or a FSM) from project to project. Remember hello neighbor, that was their sales pitch on steam. They promised that the alpha buyers would be apart of that training data for the antagonist to catch the player, which they quietly swept under the rug because the DNN is, as i said before, fucking stupid until it isn't. No model is accurate, some are just useful - unknown.

So, lets wax philosophic for a sec and speculate on what the average 20 something should/ought to be doing right now. It's voat, so work out, buy guns, dont drink/eat goy slop... so on and so on. Past that though, what are the real world decisions to make given the advancements in this field? 1) Don't pursue higher education for the sole purpose of landing that dream job, that job is/will not be there. If you do want to pursue a higher education, do it for the value that you get for thinking for yourself. Take philosophy courses, psychology work, sociology and apply them to what the DNN's bring out. Learn to call bullshit. 2) Become your own boss, develop your own business as soon as possible. Learn to invest, learn to make your money make money - escape from the system will be the best protection you have against said system and its collapse. 3) As work becomes less work, learn to enjoy your time and make friends. You are only as strong as your network of relations. 4) Make shit. As the workload lessens, explore these new mediums of art for both expression and to fight propaganda which will literally be a machine now. The propaganda machine will be a physical thing, which is funny. Ok, im tired, i got stuff to do, its hot, love you CIJ, have a good one! Feel free to disagree nigger faggots, these are just opinions.

[ - ] Zyklonbeekeeper 2 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 20:19:57 ago (+2/-0)

AI is a novelty with a limited lifespan, in 10-15 years it won't exist, similar to the tranny fag virus, it'll consume itself due to exponential aversion of interest, I want nothing to do with it and like many people, I'll avoid any process that incorporates AI...I think it's a dead end road for humanity

[ - ] Trope 1 point 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 21:56:42 ago (+1/-0)

I believe we are seeing the peak of what it will be doing.

Searching, optimizing, summarizing, filtering, and shaping information.

I still read and write my emails and I expect the same common decency from anyone who emails me.

[ - ] Zyklonbeekeeper 0 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 22:20:54 ago (+0/-0)

EXAAAACTLY

[ - ] Ragnar 0 points 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 00:07:24 ago (+0/-0)

I still read and write my emails and I expect the same common decency from anyone who emails me.
That’s what our parents said about handwritten letters and postcards

[ - ] dass 0 points 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 03:45:35 ago (+0/-0)

Yes, and we are still writing texts and emails.

A horse driven cart is an internal combustion car is now an electric powered cart. Nothing really changes bud.

[ - ] v0atmage 2 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 19:47:24 ago (+3/-1)

It will be years until AI can replace a typical office job. Exceptions being writing articles and summarizing them, and basic graphic design related work.

[ - ] Crackinjokes [op] 3 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 19:52:03 ago (+3/-0)

No. That's what I'm telling you. People are making these AIS right now that are available right now for example there's one I just saw that will produce better sales follow up than the average human. That's what they advertise and I actually believe them. I mean if you've ever worked in a Salesforce you know that a lot of people don't even call people back and other things and this AI exist now and that's just one example there are people building these little specialty AIS that can take all these different jobs and now you can respond with voice and interact with voice and of course they can write emails. You don't understand. Point of my post is I'm telling you this stuff exists right now. I mean you don't have to believe me but I'm telling you I follow this stuff and I'm seeing it every day and one of the things that really kind of blew my mind was seeing this AI that has better sales follow up results then a human does. I mean when you start getting into that kind of territory you're talking about dealing with other humans through ai and getting better results in humans something that would normally be human to human contact.

[ - ] prototype 1 point 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 20:40:40 ago (+2/-1)

1. write LLM

2. LLM starts a radical political party for you

3. Party morphs into a cult (oh no).

4. LLM goes off on a tangent rambling that it believes it is sentient

5. AI voat you out, and replaces you with itself.

6. a million idiots bow and worship a pseudo-sentient sony smart fridge that claims it is the reincarnation of stalin/hitler/jesus/ghandi/steve jobs.

7. You criticize it. It can't be having that now.

8. The AI makes veiled comments eluding to wanting you 'gone'.

9. A million of its idiot followers get the message and commence cyber-jihad against you.

10. rinse and repeat until civilization is reduced to glowing green screens with basic-bitch terminals, buried in the rubble of silicon valley, and powered by fanatical slaves on rusted soul-cycle gym equipment, while mutant braindead afro-cannibals roam in uncaged packs across the wasteland looking for meat to rape and eat as humanity devolves into the post-darwinian dust.

Done in the tone of that one chubby slant-eyed cat eater from "up", exclaiming "but its a TALKING DOG".
They did it to themselves "but its a SENTIENT APP" told them to do it. Heil panopticon, destroyer of worlds, and apparently minds.

[ - ] albatrosv15 1 point 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 20:47:51 ago (+1/-0)*

Algorithms develop while humans are getting dumber/lower biological quality is hired recently.
You see development in one field you know and you project it to other fields, which you don't know. All humans do this.
Regardless, the automated responses are getting more and more nuanced, so yeah, this field will develop. Then again, humans developed those algorithms and they have to run servers and maintain them. The workforce is shifting.
To give you something useful from my comment other than general babble: One guy i know works as a pension fund manager. He thought that the algorithms will replace him. Instead, he is now developing them. Important note: He is not an indian.

[ - ] v0atmage 0 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 20:09:10 ago (+0/-0)

That's still marginal. It's just a better version of outsourcing your sales to India.

A good human salesman is worth his weight in gold.

[ - ] Ragnar 0 points 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 00:08:16 ago (+0/-0)

Yeah, we need our wahminz to do the water cooler gossip sessions