Here's a picture of the entire city of Chicago from the Michigan shoreline.
https://files.catbox.moe/o3hnot.jpg![]()
Here's an abc57 article talking about the picture.
https://www.abc57.com/news/mirage-of-chicago-skyline-seen-from-michigan-shorelineFrom the article:
A picture of the Chicago skyline taken almost 60 miles away, is actually a mirage. This is a form of Superior Mirage, superior in this meaning the mirage or image of the skyline is seen above where it's actually located.
The article has to claim this because from where the picture was taken, there should be over 2,000 feet of obstruction caused by the supposed curvature of the earth, but yet we see the entire city of Chicago which has its tallest building, the Willis Tower, standing at 1,729 feet tall.
Every single time I see an image that shows an object that should be hidden beneath a supposed physical horizon caused by the supposed curvature of the globular Earth, I'm told it's a "mirage" or that it's "refraction." So they claim that curvature still exists but the lack thereof is only an illusion. I'm going to address this fallacy and prove that mirages and refraction do not create such an illusion.
Let's start with mirages.
The claim in the article is that a "superior mirage" is what's causing the illusion. What's a mirage? It's a reflection. A reflection is the act of light reflecting back. Reflections cause inversion.
Here's an example of a "superior mirage."
https://files.catbox.moe/huri1b.jpg![]()
Notice the inverted image of the ship above its true position. The ship is reflecting off the atmosphere above it.
Here's an example of an "inferior mirage."
https://files.catbox.moe/eeg4ad.jpg![]()
Notice the inverted image of the ship below its true position. The ship is reflecting off the surface below it.
The differences between "superior" and "inferior" are simply the position of the mirage.
Is the article suggesting that the mirage is somehow a projected image above the object's true location and without inversion? Maybe they meant to say "Fata Morgana," a "complex" form of superior mirage visible in a narrow band right above the horizon.
So it's "complex." What makes it so complex? Basically, the only thing complex about it is that it's actually not a mirage at all but a misinterpretation of what is called a "false horizon."
Here's an example of a "false horizon."
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Notice the image on the left. It appears to be a ship floating in mid-air. If we were to change the color temperature in the photo, like we see in the image on the right, we can see that it's actually not floating in mid-air but is floating on a section of water that is experiencing a mirage effect. It's caused by a change in the refractive index due to the high temperature near the water and the lower temperature above it. Remember, mirages are reflections. It is reflecting the sky above it, giving the illusion that it itself is part of the sky. So technically, it's just an "inferior mirage" of the sky. Notice where the mirage ends. It's creating a "false horizon." This type of inferior mirage can also be seen on solid surfaces.
Here's an example of an asphalt road experiencing the same type of inferior mirage.
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The reality is, there is no such thing as a mirage that can be seen as a non-inverted image projecting above an object's true position. The only examples that exist are provably misinterpreted false horizons.
Now that we've established that the Chicago photo isn't caused by a "mirage," let us take a look at the possibility that refraction's causing the illusion.
Refraction's the process by which light shifts its path as it travels through a material, causing the light to bend. That's what refraction is, but most people misunderstand the effect of refraction.
Here's an example of refraction.
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Notice you are viewing the pencil as it exists in two different mediums. From your position you see that above the water, the pencil is surrounded by air as you'd normally see it. As it enters The denser medium water, which acts as a lens that bends light, you see that it magnifies the pencil. A lens has limitations though. When an object is magnified within a lens, the entire image is expanded from the center of the lens outward, cutting off the edges that no longer fit in the lens. Since the pencil isn't directly in the center of the image being magnified, it expands outward, giving the illusion of a broken pencil. Also notice that you cannot see the eraser anymore because the bottom of the image is also cut off when it is magnified.
Here's another example that shows what a pencil would do in 3 different positions.
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Notice the image on the far left. The pencil is positioned in the center of the glass. The lens magnifies the image from the center outward. Since the pencil is in the center, it remains in its horizontal position but magnifies, only cutting off the top and bottom slightly. Now notice the image on the far right. The pencil's placed close to the left edge of the lens. Since the lens is magnifying the image from the center of the lens outward, part of the pencil is cut off due to the limitation of the lens not being able to fit the entire image that's now being magnified.
Now that we understand what both reflection and refraction is, and the actual effects they create, let me give you an example of refraction occurring naturally in the atmosphere.
https://youtu.be/Y0bQm8sJwd4This is called the "Shrinking Mill" because of the refraction that occurs regularly in this area. Notice the object being refracted is magnified at a distance, then reduces in size as it's approached. This effect is no different than holding a magnifying glass out from your face and bringing it closer. You'll notice the closer the magnifying glass is to your face, objects will appear smaller, allowing more of the object to fit inside the lens.
Here's a video of an experiment anyone can do debunking the globohomo claim that the atmosphere isn't magnifying things.
https://youtu.be/YG40kkbh734Here are some practical experiments that can show you the results we see in our observable reality.
https://youtu.be/UFP4HQQoejsHere's an example of how refraction would actually prevent you from seeing objects at great distances.
https://youtu.be/s-PhStb6mTQNotice how objects at the bottom of the lens disappear as it magnifies. This is because our apparent horizon acts as the bottom of the lens as it's at the bottom of the medium creating the magnification effect.
This is how refraction works. It doesn't magically project an image of an object above its true position. Not only is it nonsense to say it's refraction that allows one to see an object beyond a supposed physical horizon caused by supposed curvature, it's asinine because refraction would actually do the opposite and hide an image you actually could see if it wasn't being magnified by refraction.
Being able to see the entire city of Chicago from the shoreline of Michigan is due to the atmospheric conditions creating a LACK OF REFRACTION and it's NOT producing a magnifying effect, allowing the bottom of the lens to be viewed as normal. Like taking the water that's causing refraction out of the glass, allowing you to see the pencil as it truly is.
If we were to view a picture of Chicago from the shoreline of Michigan on a different day with different atmospheric conditions, we will get different results. Like the following.
https://files.catbox.moe/f1g8jb.jpeg![]()
Conclusion: There is no curvature to the earth and any claim that a mirage or refraction can bend light in such a way as to project an image above an object's true position making a globe Earth appear flat is just false. It simply does not work that way and not a single bit of evidence exists that would suggest otherwise.
[ + ] Tallest_Skil
[ - ] Tallest_Skil 1 point 9 monthsJul 25, 2024 10:09:38 ago (+1/-0)
Why are the distances between degrees of latitude uniform and don’t grow exponentially away from the equator?
Why does everyone on Earth get the same result for the Eratosthenes experiment, when people nearer the equator should get a much smaller circumference for the Earth than those nearer the poles?
Come to think of it, was Eratosthenes part of the “round Earth” conspiracy?
Surviving records show that the ancient Egyptians and Mesopotamians based their astronomical forecasts on calculations assuming the Earth is a globe. Did this conspiracy begin at the dawn of civilization, or are all ancient artifacts nothing but Victorian forgeries? If so, why has this never been detected by modern carbon-dating techniques?
Why do arc lengths of given angles of longitude decrease rather than increase south of the equator?
Why does the sun not rise in the northeast and set in the northwest, year round, for everyone on Earth?
Why DOES the sun set, when the law of perspective states that the angular size of the sun’s altitude, like everything else, can’t become negative?
Why does the sun’s angular size not change throughout the day or year, since it is “moving toward and away from us” and is “closer than we’re told”?
Seriously, did you fall asleep during geometry class, or are you just completely demented?
If you believe in zeteticism, why do you keep relying on magical and unprovable solutions, which can’t be shown to exist with your own eyes and clearly don’t exist at all? Apparently, zeteticism is just code for “make any old bullshit up and pretend it’s true.”
If all photographs of a round Earth are a hoax, why not simply create photographs of a flat Earth?
A property of mass is that it has gravitational force regardless of size. If the Earth did not have a gravitational field, wouldn’t that imply that the Earth doesn’t physically exist?
Where is the Amundsen–Scott South Pole Station located if the south “pole” is the whole circumference of the Earth?
Wouldn’t creating such elaborate fakes and conspiracies cost an equal–if not greater–amount of money than the science they are supposedly covering up?
The idea of the Earth as a sphere has existed at least since the time of the ancient Greeks, long before NASA. What were their financial motives?
What financial motives could NASA have, since their budget is still cut every year?
How could the sun be a spotlight if it is a sphere? On the flat Earth, the light projection would have to be a semicircle.
Why does the North Star goes to the horizon?
Why do constellations appear to be different in the Southern and Northern hemispheres?
Why is the Coriolis effect stronger near both poles, instead of stronger in the north and weaker in the south?
If the circumferential south pole is preventing the oceans from pouring over the edge of the flat Earth, why didn’t the oceans disappear during the incredible amount of time it would have taken for that ice to form?
If the oceans would–if they could–pour off the edge of the flat Earth, where, then, would they go? Does this mean that whatever keeps the oceans on the surface of the flat Earth only operates in a downward direction on the uppermost surface and is absent on the underneath?
Why are satellites visible from Earth with a pair of binoculars and even the naked eye?
How could a flat body maintain an atmosphere?
Why are other celestial bodies spheres but the Earth is not? How, and why, was the Earth created differently?
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 9 monthsJul 25, 2024 10:17:11 ago (+0/-0)
I think you've been misled about perception. I already addressed this with the interactive flat Earth model.
http://walter.bislins.ch/bloge/index.asp?page=Flat+Earth+Dome+Model&state=--635-21.6-1345.76565-14.0633681-2355.9583-30-91-21-2#App
The model maker was a globe Earther. He tries to debunk flat earth by creating what we claim we see and stating that it doesn't match his heliocentric numbers. Well, we are also saying those numbers are wrong. But nonetheless, the model accurately demonstrates the answers to your star questions.
Just scroll down and click on the "Stars" button under the demonstration section.
[ + ] Tallest_Skil
[ - ] Tallest_Skil 0 points 9 monthsJul 25, 2024 11:12:08 ago (+0/-0)
Why can everyone south of the equator see the exact same stars rotating in the same direction around the same fixed central point in the sky due south of them if they’re supposedly all looking in different directions?
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 9 monthsJul 25, 2024 15:38:50 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Tallest_Skil
[ - ] Tallest_Skil 0 points 9 monthsJul 25, 2024 15:56:27 ago (+0/-0)
Amazing.
Amazing.
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 9 monthsJul 25, 2024 16:04:38 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 9 monthsJul 25, 2024 10:18:59 ago (+0/-0)
I think you've been misled about perception. I already addressed this with the interactive flat Earth model.
http://walter.bislins.ch/bloge/index.asp?page=Flat+Earth+Dome+Model&state=--635-21.6-1345.76565-14.0633681-2355.9583-30-91-21-2#App
The model maker was a globe Earther. He tries to debunk flat earth by creating what we claim we see and stating that it doesn't match his heliocentric numbers. Well, we are also saying those numbers are wrong. But nonetheless, the model accurately demonstrates the answers to your star questions.
Just scroll down and click on the "Stars" button under the demonstration section.
[ + ] Tallest_Skil
[ - ] Tallest_Skil 1 point 9 monthsJul 25, 2024 11:11:27 ago (+1/-0)
Why can everyone south of the equator see the exact same stars rotating in the same direction around the same fixed central point in the sky due south of them if they’re supposedly all looking in different directions?
[ + ] HonkyMcNiggerSpic
[ - ] HonkyMcNiggerSpic 1 point 9 monthsJul 25, 2024 11:36:30 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 9 monthsJul 25, 2024 15:34:42 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Tallest_Skil
[ - ] Tallest_Skil 0 points 9 monthsJul 25, 2024 15:56:51 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 9 monthsJul 25, 2024 16:16:33 ago (+0/-0)