So my dad is on statins and every heart med you can think of. He is only 68. I asked Ai if it's safe to suddenly stop taking them.
Copilot: it has been discovered that cholesterol medicine may have negative effects on the brain. are there any studies of the effects of suddenly stopping these medications
Copilot Sent by Copilot: Yes, there are studies on the effects of suddenly stopping cholesterol medications, particularly statins. Stopping statins abruptly can lead to several serious health risks:
Increased Cholesterol Levels: When you stop taking statins, your body resumes producing cholesterol, which can cause your cholesterol levels to rise again Higher Risk of Cardiovascular Events: Research has shown that discontinuing statins can significantly increase the risk of major heart events, including heart attacks, strokes, and transient ischemic attacks (TIAs)12. Potential for Severe Complications: Stopping statins without medical guidance can lead to severe complications such as thoracic aortic aneurysm and heart failure1. Regarding the effects of cholesterol medications on the brain, some studies suggest that statins can cross the blood-brain barrier and potentially reduce cholesterol levels in the brain. This has raised concerns about possible cognitive side effects, such as memory loss or confusion34. However, the evidence is not conclusive, and more research is needed to fully understand these effects34.
If you are considering stopping your cholesterol medication, it is crucial to consult with your healthcare provider to discuss the best approach and minimize any potential risks.
Does anyone know of a safe way to get off cholesterol meds that affect the brain. Or do the benefits outweigh the risks when you have a bad ticker?
[ - ] Rowdybme [op] 1 point 9 monthsSep 2, 2024 02:25:21 ago (+2/-1)
Also makes you a retard. My dad is 68. Triple vaxxed and on statins. He is worth 300 million dollars. And was forced to retire because he can't remember a damn thing. He's my dad. I love him. And I hate to see this.
"Conclusions: In participants older than 74 years without type 2 diabetes, statin treatment was not associated with a reduction in atherosclerotic CVD or in all cause mortality, even when the incidence of atherosclerotic CVD was statistically significantly higher than the risk thresholds proposed for statin use. In the presence of diabetes, statin use was statistically significantly associated with reductions in the incidence of atherosclerotic CVD and in all cause mortality. This effect decreased after age 85 years and disappeared in nonagenarians."
[ - ] Had 3 points 9 monthsSep 2, 2024 00:47:45 ago (+3/-0)
Statins block your body from producing natural cholesterol. They are an awful drug and should be avoided. I don't know about stopping, but I would lower the dose gradually then start skipping doses. I would do this over a month probably.
Boomers were engineered for hedonism and entitlement. They will not do a single thing for their own health other than pills because it interferes with buying lottery tickets and watching niggerball
Is he having memory problems? Is he complaining alot about memory problems?
I know all those health sites say, “ never suddenly stop medication x without consulting your doctor” no matter what, because of potential lawsuits and its often bs. I don’t think theres an immediate danger with stopping statins— I would think it would be cumulative, but I don’t know much about them and I wouldn’t do it without a lot of research.
I do know that CoQ10 is often recommended as an adjunct with statin because statins deplete CoQ10 leading to muscle loss. Maybe the brain issue is also due to lowered CoQ10. Might be a good idea to take. Some other “brain” supplements like Vitamin D, B-complex, magnesium (glycinate, taurate, or threonate) and omega 3 might be beneficial for both brain and cardio problems.
There may be a trade off as you suggest. There are other cholesterol drugs but they probably also have undesireable side effects. I would focus on supplements and lifestyle changes that will improve his cardiac/ vascular / cognitive risks and then seek to go on a lower dose of statin if possible. If his numbers improve as a result of making changes, the doc might suggest that. Dosage probably makes a big difference with these things. Probably would be a good idea to run any changes by the doctor before hand because I don’t know what else he’s on.
That is as likely to be caused by vascular issues as the statins. Or both. You could have him see a neurologist. My mom was pretty flakey for the last 10 years or so of her life. She would not remember conversations we had the previous day. But she never got really bad (alzheimers vegetable) and she had a routine she just stuck to and wrote herself a lot of reminders. She coped. It helped that my dad was around to remember things for her. She was diagnosed with “cognitive decline” or something like that— not full blown dementia. I guess it was helpful to know where she was in terms of functionality but I dont think they (neurologists) have any great solutions for these problems.
Theres an argument that statins could be saving cognitive function by improving vascularity in the brain. But thats what youd expect drug companies to say.
I hope there was something in the comments that was useful to you. I dont think theres a conclusive answer to your question available at this time. Think about the coQ 10
He's still functional. But very forgetful. Also has had a big personality change. It all seemed to start after he got vaccinated. He travels frequently and basically had to get vaxxed. But I looked in his medicine cabinet. He takes every heart medicine there is.
Oh Im so sorry. Were the heart problems already present before the vax? I think that the vax could have increased inflamation in already diseased blood vessels causing an acceleration in the pathology. Atherosclerosis/plaque is believed to be a response to inflamation as I understand it— your body tries to protect/rebuild the vessel walls in response to microscopic inflammatory damage. So the vax might have caused extra inflamation in the blood vessels, increasing plaque deposits and causing the heart to work harder. And we all know the vax doesnt do anything good to the heart muscle itself.
The vascular problems are probably the main cause of his forgetfulness and personality change. Probably. But don’t underestimate the potential of nutriceuticals to improve the cardiac/vascular issues and the brain issue. K2 is a supplement thats very good for blood vessels. Nattokinase might be another one thats good for him. Flavanoids like turmeric and resveratrol target inflamation and I take them for my autoimmune issues. They make a noticeable difference. Also old people need more vitamins because their intestines dont work well. Most elderly are deficient in magnesium and vitamin D.
A word about excercise: he should do as much as he is capable of. Its very good for warding off the dementia. I nag my dad about it several times a week. He is able to walk about a quarter mile or so at a stretch. Ive drilled it into him that he will deteriorate pretty fast if he doesn’t do it. I always remind him to take his cell phone with him for a walk. He uses a cane.
I am not a medical professional, just an asshole with an internet connection and Ive read alot about aging and vax issues. My dad took the vax too because his friends were all getting it and peer pressure! I begged him not to do it. But he doesn’t appear to have suffered greatly because of it, even though he now acknowleges he was a faggot. My elderly neighbor on the other hand immediately developed kidney issues and is now dead. The adverse effects of it were very variable from person to person. I do think it accelerated vascular disease in many.
Get involved with his medical treatment and talk to his doctor when he has checkups. Im the meddling daughter they all dread calling but I think its helped.
Interesting that you refer to copilot instead of chat gpt. Going to assume you work in tech or have access to it.
I cannot speak for safely weaning off dangerous drugs but will remind everyone that magnesium is a natural calcium channel blocker and is a remarkable supplement for health. Claims cannot be made for its benefits as it would otherwise be classified as a drug according to the doctor that wrote The Magnesium Miracle.
Magnesium glycinate is the best source. Cured my heart palpitation immediately. Normalized my blood pressure and resting heart rate within several days. I will continue supplementing until the end of my days.
Tonight, I am soft-boiling eggs and eating only the egg yolks in an effort to ingest more dietary cholesterol as I continue my self-experimentation working to improve libido.
Magnesium is a really good supplement for a lot of conditions including high blood pressure, cardiac issues, and brain funcion. I think it helps with blood sugar too? And its good for the immune system.
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[ - ] Belfuro 1 point 9 monthsSep 2, 2024 02:13:29 ago (+1/-0)
Kills the brain, stops the hody self healing.
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[ - ] Rowdybme [op] 1 point 9 monthsSep 2, 2024 02:25:21 ago (+2/-1)
[ + ] Belfuro
[ - ] Belfuro 0 points 9 monthsSep 4, 2024 02:41:31 ago (+0/-0)
Clearly youre as fucking retarded as he was for comparing me to him.
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[ - ] Crackinjokes 2 points 9 monthsSep 2, 2024 01:16:34 ago (+2/-0)
"Conclusions: In participants older than 74 years without type 2 diabetes, statin treatment was not associated with a reduction in atherosclerotic CVD or in all cause mortality, even when the incidence of atherosclerotic CVD was statistically significantly higher than the risk thresholds proposed for statin use. In the presence of diabetes, statin use was statistically significantly associated with reductions in the incidence of atherosclerotic CVD and in all cause mortality. This effect decreased after age 85 years and disappeared in nonagenarians."
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[ - ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey 0 points 9 monthsSep 1, 2024 23:34:52 ago (+1/-1)
I can’t wait for this worthless generation to die off.
My parents too.
Worthless.
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I know all those health sites say, “ never suddenly stop medication x without consulting your doctor” no matter what, because of potential lawsuits and its often bs. I don’t think theres an immediate danger with stopping statins— I would think it would be cumulative, but I don’t know much about them and I wouldn’t do it without a lot of research.
I do know that CoQ10 is often recommended as an adjunct with statin because statins deplete CoQ10 leading to muscle loss. Maybe the brain issue is also due to lowered CoQ10. Might be a good idea to take. Some other “brain” supplements like Vitamin D, B-complex, magnesium (glycinate, taurate, or threonate) and omega 3 might be beneficial for both brain and cardio problems.
There may be a trade off as you suggest. There are other cholesterol drugs but they probably also have undesireable side effects. I would focus on supplements and lifestyle changes that will improve his cardiac/ vascular / cognitive risks and then seek to go on a lower dose of statin if possible. If his numbers improve as a result of making changes, the doc might suggest that. Dosage probably makes a big difference with these things. Probably would be a good idea to run any changes by the doctor before hand because I don’t know what else he’s on.
Ive got an old dad too!
[ + ] Rowdybme
[ - ] Rowdybme [op] 2 points 9 monthsSep 2, 2024 02:26:13 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 9 monthsSep 2, 2024 13:44:49 ago (+0/-0)
That is as likely to be caused by vascular issues as the statins. Or both. You could have him see a neurologist. My mom was pretty flakey for the last 10 years or so of her life. She would not remember conversations we had the previous day. But she never got really bad (alzheimers vegetable) and she had a routine she just stuck to and wrote herself a lot of reminders. She coped. It helped that my dad was around to remember things for her. She was diagnosed with “cognitive decline” or something like that— not full blown dementia. I guess it was helpful to know where she was in terms of functionality but I dont think they (neurologists) have any great solutions for these problems.
Theres an argument that statins could be saving cognitive function by improving vascularity in the brain. But thats what youd expect drug companies to say.
I hope there was something in the comments that was useful to you. I dont think theres a conclusive answer to your question available at this time. Think about the coQ 10
[ + ] Rowdybme
[ - ] Rowdybme [op] 0 points 9 monthsSep 3, 2024 03:48:49 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 9 monthsSep 3, 2024 10:21:09 ago (+0/-0)*
Oh Im so sorry. Were the heart problems already present before the vax? I think that the vax could have increased inflamation in already diseased blood vessels causing an acceleration in the pathology. Atherosclerosis/plaque is believed to be a response to inflamation as I understand it— your body tries to protect/rebuild the vessel walls in response to microscopic inflammatory damage. So the vax might have caused extra inflamation in the blood vessels, increasing plaque deposits and causing the heart to work harder. And we all know the vax doesnt do anything good to the heart muscle itself.
The vascular problems are probably the main cause of his forgetfulness and personality change. Probably. But don’t underestimate the potential of nutriceuticals to improve the cardiac/vascular issues and the brain issue. K2 is a supplement thats very good for blood vessels. Nattokinase might be another one thats good for him. Flavanoids like turmeric and resveratrol target inflamation and I take them for my autoimmune issues. They make a noticeable difference. Also old people need more vitamins because their intestines dont work well. Most elderly are deficient in magnesium and vitamin D.
A word about excercise: he should do as much as he is capable of. Its very good for warding off the dementia. I nag my dad about it several times a week. He is able to walk about a quarter mile or so at a stretch. Ive drilled it into him that he will deteriorate pretty fast if he doesn’t do it. I always remind him to take his cell phone with him for a walk. He uses a cane.
I am not a medical professional, just an asshole with an internet connection and Ive read alot about aging and vax issues. My dad took the vax too because his friends were all getting it and peer pressure! I begged him not to do it. But he doesn’t appear to have suffered greatly because of it, even though he now acknowleges he was a faggot. My elderly neighbor on the other hand immediately developed kidney issues and is now dead. The adverse effects of it were very variable from person to person. I do think it accelerated vascular disease in many.
Get involved with his medical treatment and talk to his doctor when he has checkups. Im the meddling daughter they all dread calling but I think its helped.
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I cannot speak for safely weaning off dangerous drugs but will remind everyone that magnesium is a natural calcium channel blocker and is a remarkable supplement for health. Claims cannot be made for its benefits as it would otherwise be classified as a drug according to the doctor that wrote The Magnesium Miracle.
Magnesium glycinate is the best source. Cured my heart palpitation immediately. Normalized my blood pressure and resting heart rate within several days. I will continue supplementing until the end of my days.
Tonight, I am soft-boiling eggs and eating only the egg yolks in an effort to ingest more dietary cholesterol as I continue my self-experimentation working to improve libido.
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