Prophet aka pro (forwards) phanai (to speak) implies suggested progressivism, hence suggesting prophets tempting consent by followers. Within nature...one needs to resist (life) progression (inception towards death), and it's nature which profits aka pro (forwards) facere (to set).
That's how a jew derives profits by suggesting gentiles to follow prophets. Meanwhile...gentiles are busy fighting each other within conflicts of reason about what the prophets are saying.
A word implies a corporation (a whole composed of united parts, a structure, system, community) aka partial letters, shaped into corporate words with added definitions.
Corporation aka corpus oration...a dead body spoken into life. Perceivable sound implies living language; while suggested words implying a dead language.
It starts with the letters forming the words
Only within sound can words be shaped. Shaping a word out of LETTERS requires ones consent LETTING others shape. Oneself is the LETTER of any spoken word uttered.
dan alexander
Aka Daniel/dan (he who judges) + Alex/alexein/anēr (man)..."Judge not, that ye be not judged"
Its because the legalism of the old testament, the Judaizing in the gospels and the fantasy fiction of revelation. Martin luther was justified to remove books from his canon
I'm unwilling to go as far as you in your description of The book of Revelation, but I have found it to be a distraction and I don't understand how it can make me a better Christian.
Some perspective on the Book of Revelation, which was written by the Apostle John. I think it's awfully ballsy, and incredibly stupid, to remove a Book from the Bible that was written by a Biblical Heavyweight like the Apostle John!
I wouldn't remove it, and I think it's very important, and it's stronger than just a book written by the Apostle John, it's a Revelation of Jesus, himself, captured by John.
Revelation 1:1 A revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him so that he could tell his servants what is now to take place very soon; he sent his angel to make it known to his servant John,
2 and John has borne witness to the Word of God and to the witness of Jesus Christ, everything that he saw.
That said, I've tried to understand as much as I can, but the language is largely symbolic and allegory, and very difficult to use to discern what will actually happen. I believe it will be after the fact that the meaning will be clear.
I think, at this point in my life, my efforts are better spent trying to become a better servant of Christ.
Revelation wasn't written by the apostle John. It was written by John of Patmos. He didn't live at the same time as Jesus. I'm not a Christian and even I know it's not the same John. You'll never understand revelations, and why it shouldn't even be in the Bible, if you don't even understand who supposedly wrote the Bible.
The Bible in it's current form is just a tool to exercise control over the masses. None of the books included in the new testament were actually written while Jesus was supposedly alive and a lot that were are considered apocryphal. It was a crime punishable by death for a common person to even own a copy in the middle ages. Shouldn't that inspire some questions?
Look, I have nothing against Christians. I don't care what you believe. You should care what you believe though, at least enough to know what that is exactly.
Without putting too fine a point on it, traditionally, it was understood to be written by the Apostle John. While you may hold the belief that it was not John the Apostle, that's not agreed on in scholarly circles.
The Bible provides a path to Salvation. People have misused it throughout history to exercise control, but that's not it's primary purpose. For me, it provides a means to keep my own internal book keeping in check. I'm not directionless. Life is not without meaning.
I'm pretty sure I know what I believe, and I think the distinction you are trying to highlight makes virtually zero difference. Whether it was written by John the Apostle or John somebody else, makes no real difference in the validity of the text.
I guess in some regards, this is the equivalent of trying to explain the mechanics of nuclear fusion to a second grader. We don't have the masters-level understanding of it, but we have the general idea of what's to come.
But what would it mean in a place with no gravity? I'm not finding a full explanation of the gravity-based "stand under/recieve from above" aspect of understanding, but this goes a little further than a dictionary.
"Old English oferstandan, Middle English overstonden, literally "over-stand" seem to have been used only in literal senses."
Interesting variant. Seems like 'grasping' a concept is like mastering it, related to your slave/master reference, or 'standing over' the meaning. It's unclear what happens spatially to the original source.
Place implies within everything...no/not/nothing aka suggested nihil-ism (Latin nihilo; nothing) tempts one to de-nial everything perceivable.
Gravity/gravis/gwere - "heavy" implies something (matter) within everything (motion). Few suggest "gravitational force" among matter, which tempts many to ignore motion.
I'm not finding a full explanation
a) Full implies all perceivable; explanation implies as suggested by another...one can discern perceivable, yet only ever understand/stand-under those shaping suggestions.
b) Notice "I don't"...hence basing ones problems on self-denial, while seeking solutions from others. That's what interferes with ones self discernment.
Letting go of I allows ONE to discern self; while resisting de-nial (don't) allows one to see what one denied aka perceivable inspiration.
c) Instead of seeking to find something, try discerning to be within (matter) the foundation (motion) of everything (momentum).
Few suggest "seek an you shall find" to tempt many to want more and more suggestions aka following along breadcrumbs towards enlightenment, while having ones nose on the ground...seeing nothing but the next crumb aka the next level/stage/step/rung etc.
stand under/receive from above
All perceivable moves through each ones perception, hence allowing each one to draw from all. Anything suggested by another requires ones consent aka ones submission to accept an artificial offer, while ignoring that the natural offer is always available to each ones FREE will of choice...without consent as the price of admission aka without selling oneself out to a happy merchant of temptation.
this goes a little further than a dictionary
Diction/deiko - "to show" aka show/skau - "to behold"...which implies being holding onto suggested information by willing consent, while ignoring that perceivable inspiration cannot be held onto, since it moves.
That's what a dictionary is for...tempting one to hold onto meaning/definition/truth etc.
used only in literal senses
Literal implies "letter"...ones consent LETS another shape suggested words within perceivable sound. That's what confuses ones senses. One cannot sense letters without first letting others attach meaning to it...that's fiction; artifice; suggested information.
Seems like 'grasping' a concept is like mastering it
a) To grasp implies holding onto, while ignoring to be (life) moved (inception towards death). Taking a child into ones grasp and waiting a little while implies smothering aka suffocation, hence nature implying the need to let go of wanted temptations.
No try to apply this grasping to friendships; relationships; beliefs; contracts; religion/religo (to bind anew); consenting to a suggestion; upholding values and morals; society; community; civilization; e pluribus unum (out of many; one) etc. That's where all the suffocation stems from...putting together that which natures sets apart from one another, while holding onto that which moves.
b) To master implies to tempt others to enslave themselves to one by consenting to ones suggestions aka by following ones lead.
Few suggest masterism (thousand hours practice to master this and that) to tempt many to ignore enslavement aka enslaving ones mind by consent to suggestions. It's a slave (ones choice) who selects a master (chosen one).
Master/meg - "great" implies a value within the eye of the beholder aka the being holding onto suggested values. Ask yourself if nature is great or small...or does nature imply all value offered for each ones evaluation thereof?
what happens spatially to the original source
a) Happen implies "chance" aka an effect of an unknown cause. Few suggest happenstance to trick many to gamble CHOICE on CHANCE, while ignoring original source aka perceivable.
b) Spatial/space - "to wander" implies matter wandering within momentum of motion...not a place in circumference (till infinity and beyond); but ones reaction as center within circumference aka ones perception within all perceivable.
What is the origin of the word...
Only within sound can a word be shaped...holding onto a word tempts one to ignore moving sound.
More answers from...
...the suggestions by another, tempting one to ignore perceivable solution (inception towards death) for each problem (life) within.
a) How can that which "binds within covers" reveal?
b) Why does reading that which binds ones focus in-between covers require ones FREE will of choice?
a better Christian
Christ/khriein/ghrei - "to anoint" implies each off-spring coming through the birth-channel. How does one become a better christian? By bringing more anointed ones into being aka "be fruitful and multiply".
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- https://www.etymonline.com/word/prophet#etymonline_v_2689
- https://www.etymonline.com/word/profit#etymonline_v_2630
That's how a jew derives profits by suggesting gentiles to follow prophets. Meanwhile...gentiles are busy fighting each other within conflicts of reason about what the prophets are saying.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aYN0Gw0G2y4
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A word implies a corporation (a whole composed of united parts, a structure, system, community) aka partial letters, shaped into corporate words with added definitions.
Corporation aka corpus oration...a dead body spoken into life. Perceivable sound implies living language; while suggested words implying a dead language.
Only within sound can words be shaped. Shaping a word out of LETTERS requires ones consent LETTING others shape. Oneself is the LETTER of any spoken word uttered.
Aka Daniel/dan (he who judges) + Alex/alexein/anēr (man)..."Judge not, that ye be not judged"
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https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/apocalypse
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That said, I've tried to understand as much as I can, but the language is largely symbolic and allegory, and very difficult to use to discern what will actually happen. I believe it will be after the fact that the meaning will be clear.
I think, at this point in my life, my efforts are better spent trying to become a better servant of Christ.
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The Bible in it's current form is just a tool to exercise control over the masses. None of the books included in the new testament were actually written while Jesus was supposedly alive and a lot that were are considered apocryphal. It was a crime punishable by death for a common person to even own a copy in the middle ages. Shouldn't that inspire some questions?
Look, I have nothing against Christians. I don't care what you believe. You should care what you believe though, at least enough to know what that is exactly.
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The Bible provides a path to Salvation. People have misused it throughout history to exercise control, but that's not it's primary purpose. For me, it provides a means to keep my own internal book keeping in check. I'm not directionless. Life is not without meaning.
I'm pretty sure I know what I believe, and I think the distinction you are trying to highlight makes virtually zero difference. Whether it was written by John the Apostle or John somebody else, makes no real difference in the validity of the text.
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A slave "stands under" a master...
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https://www.etymonline.com/word/understanding#:~:text=Entries%20linking%20to%20understanding&text=Old%20English%20understandan%20%22to%20comprehend,see%20stand%20(v.)).
"Old English oferstandan, Middle English overstonden, literally "over-stand" seem to have been used only in literal senses."
Interesting variant. Seems like 'grasping' a concept is like mastering it, related to your slave/master reference, or 'standing over' the meaning. It's unclear what happens spatially to the original source.
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-origin-of-the-word-understand#:~:text=Understand%20%7C%20Definition%20of%20Understand%20by,see%20stand(v.)).
More answers from both above and below the meaning.
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Place implies within everything...no/not/nothing aka suggested nihil-ism (Latin nihilo; nothing) tempts one to de-nial everything perceivable.
Gravity/gravis/gwere - "heavy" implies something (matter) within everything (motion). Few suggest "gravitational force" among matter, which tempts many to ignore motion.
a) Full implies all perceivable; explanation implies as suggested by another...one can discern perceivable, yet only ever understand/stand-under those shaping suggestions.
b) Notice "I don't"...hence basing ones problems on self-denial, while seeking solutions from others. That's what interferes with ones self discernment.
Letting go of I allows ONE to discern self; while resisting de-nial (don't) allows one to see what one denied aka perceivable inspiration.
c) Instead of seeking to find something, try discerning to be within (matter) the foundation (motion) of everything (momentum).
Few suggest "seek an you shall find" to tempt many to want more and more suggestions aka following along breadcrumbs towards enlightenment, while having ones nose on the ground...seeing nothing but the next crumb aka the next level/stage/step/rung etc.
All perceivable moves through each ones perception, hence allowing each one to draw from all. Anything suggested by another requires ones consent aka ones submission to accept an artificial offer, while ignoring that the natural offer is always available to each ones FREE will of choice...without consent as the price of admission aka without selling oneself out to a happy merchant of temptation.
Diction/deiko - "to show" aka show/skau - "to behold"...which implies being holding onto suggested information by willing consent, while ignoring that perceivable inspiration cannot be held onto, since it moves.
That's what a dictionary is for...tempting one to hold onto meaning/definition/truth etc.
Literal implies "letter"...ones consent LETS another shape suggested words within perceivable sound. That's what confuses ones senses. One cannot sense letters without first letting others attach meaning to it...that's fiction; artifice; suggested information.
a) To grasp implies holding onto, while ignoring to be (life) moved (inception towards death). Taking a child into ones grasp and waiting a little while implies smothering aka suffocation, hence nature implying the need to let go of wanted temptations.
No try to apply this grasping to friendships; relationships; beliefs; contracts; religion/religo (to bind anew); consenting to a suggestion; upholding values and morals; society; community; civilization; e pluribus unum (out of many; one) etc. That's where all the suffocation stems from...putting together that which natures sets apart from one another, while holding onto that which moves.
b) To master implies to tempt others to enslave themselves to one by consenting to ones suggestions aka by following ones lead.
Few suggest masterism (thousand hours practice to master this and that) to tempt many to ignore enslavement aka enslaving ones mind by consent to suggestions. It's a slave (ones choice) who selects a master (chosen one).
Master/meg - "great" implies a value within the eye of the beholder aka the being holding onto suggested values. Ask yourself if nature is great or small...or does nature imply all value offered for each ones evaluation thereof?
a) Happen implies "chance" aka an effect of an unknown cause. Few suggest happenstance to trick many to gamble CHOICE on CHANCE, while ignoring original source aka perceivable.
b) Spatial/space - "to wander" implies matter wandering within momentum of motion...not a place in circumference (till infinity and beyond); but ones reaction as center within circumference aka ones perception within all perceivable.
Only within sound can a word be shaped...holding onto a word tempts one to ignore moving sound.
...the suggestions by another, tempting one to ignore perceivable solution (inception towards death) for each problem (life) within.
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a) How can that which "binds within covers" reveal?
b) Why does reading that which binds ones focus in-between covers require ones FREE will of choice?
Christ/khriein/ghrei - "to anoint" implies each off-spring coming through the birth-channel. How does one become a better christian? By bringing more anointed ones into being aka "be fruitful and multiply".