I don't get to make that call... That's a decision that some great leader that rises from the masses gets to make and carry out. I'm just a poor schlub, sitting in front of my TV watching the world burn!
Why bother using torrents to download music? Anyone can grab all their favorite songs for free from YouTube plus one of many downloader sites. Here's one I use: https://v3.ytmp3.media/vwLiq/
That's a good point. Though torrents often have flacs or at the minimum wave or high bitrate mp3. Even if youtube in some cases will offer a relatively high bitrate lossy compression the fact is it got transcoded at least one additional time by being on youtube.
But also getting everything at once in an already organized directory structure is really nice too. To download and organize and convert every song from a band's discography can take a good amount of work and is more likely to be incomplete in the end. Vs getting an (era+genre) pack that has the band's entire discography plus the same for 40 other similar bands all in one click.
This is quite hilarious as the ISPs did everything that was required, sent notice. Disconnected service. Required customer to contact to resume service after resolved.
The ISP is in the business of selling a service not controlling how that service is used.
Contrast this to Russian controlled internet and China.
Its a slippery slope.
Next will be VPN denial. Then gradually steps to integrate your DigitalID/VaxPass/Social Credit account.
The problem seems to be the "reasonable jury" that apparently doesn't understand the need to be convicted of a crime before your rights are taken away by a corporation.
"On appeal, Grande and its amici make a policy argument—that terminating Internet services is not a simple measure, but instead a 'draconian overreaction' that is a 'drastic and overbroad remedy'—but a reasonable jury could, and did, find that Grande had basic measures, including termination, available to it. And because Grande does not dispute any of the evidence on which Plaintiffs relied to prove material contribution, there is no basis to conclude a reasonable jury lacked sufficient evidence to reach that conclusion."
And if the government just allowed the isps to track our internet usage how can they prove I downloaded something just because there is a torrent going on or a peer-to-peer Network or an encrypted VPN network?
Sir ill let you know that just because you posted on Facebook that assassinating Donald Trump is unreasonable means all that 3.3 terabytes of child porn are indeed yours because the government says so when they invaded your computer. Its only a detail that your HD capacity is only 1 TB
Not that I use usenet but I wonder how that affects usenet. From what I understood usenet providers also had an exception because they were providing a raw protocol tantamount to an ISP functionality. The fact that it is technically one layer above didn't matter.
It's time for IP to die anyway. The constitution does distinguish it from partially enumerated natural rights. It's not really a right but a temporary license to have exclusive use of something with a calculated end, solve the problem that supply and demand don't naturally coordinate in media production/exchange and the scarcity that causes in media (under normal conditions in the pre-technical era). This is not a right that anyone is morally entitled to (like the right to speak one's mind or to avoid being defenseless). With AI and procedural generation and everything we have stored there is no scarcity of media. Therefore the "right" has no purpose.
The fact that someone would face jail time and violence over something so stupid is morally wrong.
[ + ] allAheadFull
[ - ] allAheadFull 16 points 1 monthOct 14, 2024 14:28:25 ago (+16/-0)
[ + ] dass
[ - ] dass 6 points 1 monthOct 14, 2024 14:48:42 ago (+6/-0)
[ + ] iSnark
[ - ] iSnark 7 points 1 monthOct 14, 2024 12:53:50 ago (+7/-0)
Maybe Politicians and Lawyers need to be terminated!
[ + ] dosvydanya_freedomz
[ - ] dosvydanya_freedomz [op] 1 point 1 monthOct 14, 2024 13:01:53 ago (+1/-0)
do you think this will go to the supreme court?
[ + ] iSnark
[ - ] iSnark 2 points 1 monthOct 14, 2024 13:19:47 ago (+2/-0)
It's anybody's guess...
Depends if the case is strong enough to support and push the legislation they want to enact...
[ + ] King_Leopold_II
[ - ] King_Leopold_II -1 points 1 monthOct 14, 2024 17:04:22 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] iSnark
[ - ] iSnark 2 points 1 monthOct 14, 2024 17:10:19 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Prairie
[ - ] Prairie 6 points 1 monthOct 14, 2024 14:25:22 ago (+6/-0)
[ + ] Panic
[ - ] Panic 3 points 1 monthOct 14, 2024 16:14:49 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] x0x7
[ - ] x0x7 2 points 1 monthOct 14, 2024 17:38:59 ago (+2/-0)
But also getting everything at once in an already organized directory structure is really nice too. To download and organize and convert every song from a band's discography can take a good amount of work and is more likely to be incomplete in the end. Vs getting an (era+genre) pack that has the band's entire discography plus the same for 40 other similar bands all in one click.
[ + ] SundayMatinee
[ - ] SundayMatinee 1 point 1 monthOct 14, 2024 16:40:18 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Niggly_Puff
[ - ] Niggly_Puff 1 point 1 monthOct 14, 2024 19:50:02 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] RobertJHarsh
[ - ] RobertJHarsh 2 points 1 monthOct 14, 2024 17:13:08 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] FacelessOne
[ - ] FacelessOne 2 points 1 monthOct 14, 2024 14:58:37 ago (+2/-0)
The ISP is in the business of selling a service not controlling how that service is used.
Contrast this to Russian controlled internet and China.
Its a slippery slope.
Next will be VPN denial. Then gradually steps to integrate your DigitalID/VaxPass/Social Credit account.
[ + ] PotatoWhisperer2
[ - ] PotatoWhisperer2 2 points 1 monthOct 14, 2024 15:08:44 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Crackinjokes
[ - ] Crackinjokes 0 points 1 monthOct 16, 2024 05:05:10 ago (+0/-0)
Then you will not use your rights....to do that.
[ + ] Crackinjokes
[ - ] Crackinjokes 0 points 1 monthOct 16, 2024 05:03:50 ago (+0/-0)
"On appeal, Grande and its amici make a policy argument—that terminating Internet services is not a simple measure, but instead a 'draconian overreaction' that is a 'drastic and overbroad remedy'—but a reasonable jury could, and did, find that Grande had basic measures, including termination, available to it. And because Grande does not dispute any of the evidence on which Plaintiffs relied to prove material contribution, there is no basis to conclude a reasonable jury lacked sufficient evidence to reach that conclusion."
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[ + ] Crackinjokes
[ - ] Crackinjokes 0 points 1 monthOct 16, 2024 04:59:32 ago (+0/-0)
It where all the smart people are going.
Don't eat donuts and then wonder why you are fat.
[ + ] GlowNiggerDick
[ - ] GlowNiggerDick 1 point 1 monthOct 14, 2024 20:14:35 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Crackinjokes
[ - ] Crackinjokes 1 point 1 monthOct 16, 2024 04:58:20 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] 9000timesempty
[ - ] 9000timesempty 1 point 1 monthOct 14, 2024 15:07:43 ago (+1/-0)
And if the government just allowed the isps to track our internet usage how can they prove I downloaded something just because there is a torrent going on or a peer-to-peer Network or an encrypted VPN network?
This isn't enforceable.
[ + ] Razzoriel
[ - ] Razzoriel 2 points 1 monthOct 14, 2024 15:43:12 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] BulletStopper
[ - ] BulletStopper 0 points 1 monthOct 14, 2024 22:30:31 ago (+0/-0)
Uh-huh.
Not "proven to". Not "convicted of".
Just "accused".
Seems a pretty low bar.
Gird up thy loins for a "war of accusations" until somebody realizes how stupid this is.
[ + ] x0x7
[ - ] x0x7 0 points 1 monthOct 14, 2024 17:29:37 ago (+0/-0)
It's time for IP to die anyway. The constitution does distinguish it from partially enumerated natural rights. It's not really a right but a temporary license to have exclusive use of something with a calculated end, solve the problem that supply and demand don't naturally coordinate in media production/exchange and the scarcity that causes in media (under normal conditions in the pre-technical era). This is not a right that anyone is morally entitled to (like the right to speak one's mind or to avoid being defenseless). With AI and procedural generation and everything we have stored there is no scarcity of media. Therefore the "right" has no purpose.
The fact that someone would face jail time and violence over something so stupid is morally wrong.