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To the people here who claim to have stopped paying taxes, how do you do it?

submitted by allAheadFull to Jews 6 monthsOct 19, 2024 17:40:45 ago (+14/-0)     (Jews)

16th amendment allowing Federal income tax was never ratified. https://theamericanview.com/blogs/constitution-course-supplemental-assignments/defects-in-ratification-of-the-16th-amendment

Has the IRS ever fucked with you?


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[ - ] DukeofRaul 0 points 6 monthsOct 19, 2024 17:49:10 ago (+1/-1)

Faraday cage

[ - ] HelenHighwater 9 points 6 monthsOct 19, 2024 17:57:12 ago (+9/-0)

Aaron Russo did an amazing documentary on this. It is old, but worth it for the entertainment value: America: Freedom to Fascism.

He even goes into how the rothchilds told him about 9/11 ahead of time.

edit: He doesn't explain how to avoid taxes, he goes to the IRS and asks them under what law they collect taxes. Spoiler: No one fucking knows.

Stellar.

[ - ] DukeofRaul 3 points 6 monthsOct 19, 2024 18:01:54 ago (+3/-0)

Louie Theroux did am eoisode of peoole in utah too

[ - ] Indoctrinated_USA 6 points 6 monthsOct 19, 2024 18:04:39 ago (+6/-0)

They don't.
They lie on social media.

[ - ] allAheadFull [op] 1 point 6 monthsOct 19, 2024 19:12:23 ago (+1/-0)

Possibly. There is a former IRS investigator turned educator that doesn't pay and trains other people about it but I can't find his name in the search engine noise. The IRS has harassed him for years.

[ - ] Sector2 4 points 6 monthsOct 19, 2024 19:46:58 ago (+4/-0)

After one retard moment when I filed for a business I bought, they sent me stacks of letters for years. They finally gave up after some years of not claiming to have income again.

A girlfriends parents who were tax preparers went to prison for some kind of funny business. The case was based around basically lying to the IRS about finances, via filings. Don't lie to them. Don't say anything at all to them.

[ - ] Prairie 3 points 6 monthsOct 19, 2024 22:02:00 ago (+3/-0)*

Don't lie to them. Don't say anything at all to them.

This is key. Filing with the IRS is like talking to the police. However, note their take on not reporting.

[ - ] Sector2 3 points 6 monthsOct 19, 2024 18:54:12 ago (+4/-1)

Keep all of your financial affairs private.

[ - ] MaryXmas 3 points 6 monthsOct 19, 2024 18:54:35 ago (+3/-0)

And your employer?

[ - ] Sector2 3 points 6 monthsOct 19, 2024 19:36:50 ago (+3/-0)

Wage slavery is incompatible with freedom and privacy. Besides, why would you sell the use of your mind and body to someone who isn't you? Correctly done, you are your own employer. Your mind and body are employed to support you.

Anyway, most people end up choosing the 'Typical Life' template and pretty much lock themselves into the terms and conditions of modern jewish society. Being able to create a sufficient untaxed income requires atypical behavior. Perhaps you are "totally a renter" of a house owned by a foreign legal entity...

Best bet for most wage slaves is to avoid the extra challenges and just start some kind of legal business that yields tax advantages. The tax code will always be full of 'loopholes'. Learn how they work and how to take advantage of them.

This search term is probably still a great entry point: https://www.google.com/search?q=Asset+Protection

[ - ] Master_Foo 1 point 6 monthsOct 19, 2024 19:02:35 ago (+1/-0)

Everything on the interwebs is a lie.
Especially everything said by anonymous randos on message boards.

[ - ] puremadness 0 points 6 monthsOct 20, 2024 03:09:43 ago (+0/-0)

hey....

[ - ] Her0n 6 points 6 monthsOct 19, 2024 19:05:31 ago (+6/-0)

I pay property tax on my land, I have a few acres in the US.
I pay income tax for my income.
I have a small contracting business I pay various taxes on.
I pay the least amount I can, but even with growing most of my food, homeschooling, providing my own utilities I still have taxes to pay to live on this planet.

You can reduce, but you can't remove them without breaking laws.

My property tax on my 5 acres is 625USD a year. My neighbors with city utilities pays over 3k!

[ - ] x0x7 3 points 6 monthsOct 19, 2024 19:09:25 ago (+3/-0)*

I guess you just stop. I have a coworker from Ukraine that said he doesn't pay taxes. "Nobody paid taxes in Ukraine, I'm not going to start now."

He says, and I believe him, that people generally don't pay taxes in most countries. That the US is the only country where everyone is paying taxes and a lot more than anywhere else. (ok, I know people are paying taxes in Sweden and UK). But everywhere else people don't bother.

No wonder we're able to have the biggest military in the world. We are a 350 million strong tax farm.

Either way if war breaks out I'm not doing a damn thing to help maintain the current regime. The political class is going to be very shocked when people have no loyalty to people who have been stealing from them their whole life.

[ - ] TheSimulacra 1 point 6 monthsOct 19, 2024 19:14:30 ago (+1/-0)

Vogons require forms to operate.
If you fill out the forms, you are required to fill ALL of them out, correctly, under penalty of law.
Do not engage with the (((vogons))). Do not put your name on their forms. Make THEM do ALL of the WORK.
If you engage for too long, the poetry will kill you.

[ - ] puremadness 0 points 6 monthsOct 20, 2024 15:27:05 ago (+0/-0)

This guy is nuts and tried to shove a fish in my ear.

[ - ] TheSimulacra 1 point 6 monthsOct 24, 2024 16:36:46 ago (+1/-0)

Want to know the meaning behind the number 42? or do you already

[ - ] puremadness 0 points 6 monthsOct 25, 2024 03:30:59 ago (+0/-0)

I read all 5, I know the question!

Either way, I always knew there was something fundamentally wrong with the universe.
6*9

[ - ] Empire_of_the_Mind 0 points 6 monthsOct 19, 2024 19:26:28 ago (+0/-0)

stop making money

[ - ] Sector2 0 points 6 monthsOct 19, 2024 19:38:16 ago (+0/-0)

that gets reported to the IRS

[ - ] Love240 0 points 6 monthsOct 19, 2024 19:49:21 ago (+0/-0)*

Just stop ratting on yourself by telling the IRS you 'owe them money'.

Problem solved.

You want to get rid of your FICA taxes? File a W-8BEN with your employer.
Your employer would file a W-8BEN(e) to stop paying their half for you.
(it is illegal for your employer to discriminate against you based on your nationality)

This relies on you understanding who you are, which is NOT a US citizen.
(unless you live in the District of Columbia where the corporation of the US is)

[ - ] s23erdctfvyg 0 points 6 monthsOct 19, 2024 20:06:54 ago (+0/-0)

Is half the posts on this thread italicized for anyone else?
NM mine is as well, probably just a bug with the site.

[ - ] nephileon 2 points 6 monthsOct 19, 2024 20:29:15 ago (+2/-0)

https://onestupidfuck.com/ heres a whacky guy who's got it all figured out

[ - ] CHIRO 0 points 6 monthsOct 19, 2024 20:47:59 ago (+0/-0)

Make below the poverty level. Then you're fine.

[ - ] Razzoriel 1 point 6 monthsOct 19, 2024 21:35:37 ago (+1/-0)

If you pay taxes for a long time and stop, IRS will fuck with you. If you never declared a dime and keep a relatively low-profile life, it will never know of your existance. If you declared taxes for several years and dont want to pay anymore, underdeclare until you dont anymore.

Certain things are unavoidable, such as a house, business.. these you cannot escape.

[ - ] Prairie 1 point 6 monthsOct 19, 2024 22:03:34 ago (+1/-0)

Way back I worked a couple of years then didn't work for a long time, and the IRS sent me a letter about it and I replied that I'm not working so I don't have to make a return. Didn't bother me again after that.

[ - ] bohmoonx 2 points 6 monthsOct 19, 2024 23:24:25 ago (+2/-0)

You can't stop paying taxes on W2/any reported income earnings and the bullshit about the 16th amendment doesn't work. "Tax protestors" only make money from their followers (that would be YOU).

My advice is to get a cash business going since the IRS can't track your transactions or take risky deductions. Lying on deductions is not criminal and if caught you only have to pay a very small penalty. It's definitely worth the risk.

[ - ] o0shad0o 0 points 6 monthsOct 19, 2024 23:27:48 ago (+0/-0)

Agree. This will work until the US gets rid of cash.

[ - ] observation1 2 points 6 monthsOct 19, 2024 23:30:30 ago (+2/-0)

I know a guy that did legally in court.

He wasn't even one of those guys.

He just hated it and had some fuck you money and kept writing letters and finally the irs left him alone.

[ - ] Fourteeneightyeight 0 points 6 monthsOct 19, 2024 23:43:43 ago (+0/-0)

First, you go to Puerto Rico. Next, burn down IRS headquarters.

[ - ] TheBigGuyFromQueens 2 points 6 monthsOct 20, 2024 00:52:43 ago (+2/-0)

They don't. They're full of shit Jew plants trying to get you arrested for tax evasion.

[ - ] puremadness 0 points 6 monthsOct 20, 2024 03:08:50 ago (+0/-0)

Everyone pays income tax.

THATS WHY IT WORKS.
That's also why we're all just standing around waiting for someone else to rebel.
That's also why no one can afford to do so.

[ - ] CoronaHoax 1 point 6 monthsOct 20, 2024 07:50:49 ago (+1/-0)

You gotta be 1099 to start.

Ironically a lot of companies love this because they don’t have to pay you benefits etc anymore

[ - ] WanderingToast 2 points 6 monthsOct 20, 2024 08:34:29 ago (+2/-0)

Set up a company in a tax haven.

This company takes ownership of everything you own.

You 'rent' everything from this company.

Be self employed - as the 'company' work as contractor for the 'company' while it 'charges you' lots of fees e.g. scheduling, admin, etc

[ - ] Crackinjokes 1 point 6 monthsOct 20, 2024 08:54:02 ago (+1/-0)

I think this is how apple and other big companies have avoided paying taxes in the US for years. I think they let the tax Haven company own the logo and trademark and that tax Haven company charges the US company basically an amount that equals all the US company profits for the use of the logo and trademark and so the US company doesn't have any technical profits and doesn't pay any taxes.

[ - ] Crackinjokes 2 points 6 monthsOct 20, 2024 08:51:40 ago (+2/-0)

I always tell people to pay their taxes but apparently apple and some other companies have figured out this scheme where some foreign company in a tax Haven owns the Apple trademark and Logo Etc and the Apple company that's making the products and selling them for a profit is charged by that other company for the use of the logo some exorbitant fee that neutralizes all of the other companies profits so the other company doesn't end up paying any taxes. It's apparently a scheme that a lot of companies use.

[ - ] allAheadFull [op] 0 points 6 monthsOct 21, 2024 14:49:25 ago (+0/-0)

So I get a tatoo, sell the rights to that tatoo to a foreign shell company, and charge myself, cough, I mean have them charge me for using my tatoo? Sounds like I need to incorporate. Hold my W2...