Wouldn't the "opposite of addiction" be never taking or ingesting anything twice?
That said, I'm about to feed my bacon addiction again. Back to the kirkland brand today, as I've just finished the package of https://hemplers.com/product-types/bacon/. Superior bacon, and will buy more next time.
I think he was making a point of overcoming addiction mentally. The issue with many addicts is the persistant "victim" layer that most are trained to apply to it.
bacon
I haven't been addicted to that since breakfast! :P
I dont like the way he frames this. The opposite of addiction is indeed sobriety. Addiction is NOT an adaptation.
We have evolved to experience natural highs with certain pro-survival/reproductive activities. Its natures way of saying “ Yes, do this— it will help you survive, procreate, maintain the population” . It provides motivation in our lives.
This instinctual system —lets call it the pleasure/pain system— can be highjacked with drugs and junkfoods and sex and entertainment. Fundamentally its a dysregulation of this pleasure signalling system. It causes humans to value the wrong things.
Social parasites have engineered these products to live off of slave addicts rather than being productive themselves.
So yes, perhaps an individual deprived of natural “highs” is more susceptible to addictions . But addiction is not an adaptation but an exploit in human biology that some people are taking advantage of. Its evil as shit.
But it still can happen to people with lots of “connections”. There are all kinds of factors that determine whether or not a person becomes addicted to goy slop or wild turkey or heroin. Healthy levels of exposure to physical and mental stimulation is just on of them.
Some people are just going to become alcoholics when exposed to alcohol, regardless of whether they live in a healthy environment.
Yeah, it's engineered too, I still remember we messed with coughing syrup, and all sorts of stuff when about 12 to 16, everything was around for some mysterious reason when it should not be. But, I also think that there is a moment, when each one knows in their mind, that one step further will be one too much. I remember that moment for me, was able to see things for what they were, and had a nice life after bc I ditched all that, and took a few friends with me. Others are all dead now. Some people just can't act in that moment, maybe they are feeling too alone or empty inside. So healthy environment maybe is help for such. Honestly I don't know about a single addict that would came from a "healthy environment", was always something at home wrong, some pain to heal.
, I still remember we messed with coughing syrup, and all sorts of stuff when about 12 to 16,
Yup me too. Omg nyquil was so gross. I also used some prescription stimulants and sedatives. I dropped acid a few times.
But, I also think that there is a moment, when each one knows in their mind, that one step further will be one too much.
I think for me, I can remember a few times when friends pulled out coke or heroin. I was like no fuckin way. That was just where I drew the line. And one good friend just had no limits and now she’s dead. She was just impulsive. She had a pretty good home life. I liked cultivating a “rebel” badass rep. But in truth I was always a bit cautious about things. Of course I drank like a fish back then. But my instincts probably kept me alive on a few occassions.
Kids are raised on all kinds of addictive shit, before they are introduced to drugs and alcohol and porn. I think TV and social media and video games are all really addictive . So is junk food. These “harmless” indulgences cause a dysregulation of emotion in children who are then primed for more serious addictions during puberty because theyve developed a taste for the emotional roller coaster ride of addiction.
Haha well, then you know what I'm talking about, no fucking way moment. Nice :)
Here is one recent discovery, published last month - since food ingredients can trigger addiction, you can safely think that similar mechanism is for all other addictions.
They found out that fat tissue has a "memory" of past obesity. This memory is stored probably on the level of mRNA or even microRNA, influencing how genes in fat cells behave, which ones will be turned on or off...
That's why people, who were before fat and lost weight, they can get fat back again really fast after they start to eat normally after a diet. Here is original published research, but you can find nicer articles from this one: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-024-08165-7
I really think addiction is somehow connected with a immune system, God knows how, but sure there is some memory stored on cellular level, summing up across time all those consumption, and when this goes over some threshold, one gets addicted. Same as with fat people addicted to eating.
Well at least this is a bio view, then you have psychological, and even spiritual. Hah, really there is an old superstition, when an addict (in this case alcoholic) dies, one should not be close around, bc they like to jump on to some living person. Well, this I say more for fun, but who knows. :)
Here is one recent discovery, published last month - since food ingredients can trigger addiction, you can safely think that similar mechanism is for all other addictions.
Food can effect your emotional state— it can make you feel satiated. That is a kind of high. If Im really anxious I know that a pint of chocolate ice cream can erase that uncomfortable mood. There is a real biochemical reaction going on. Same with porn and gambling and video gaming.
What people don’t realize is that just like with alcohol and drugs, regular use of chocolate ice cream begins to create a dependency —with chronic use, you can’t feel ok unless you have chocolate ice cream . You feel extremely unsatisfied if you suddenly switch to salad. After weeks of no ice cream, you begin to feel satiated by the salad. That is because your satiety threshold was “reset” and the neurotransmitters and hormones that control satiety are now released when you eat salad. But hyperpalatable foods like ice cream raise the threshold of those signallers so you can only feel sated by hyperpalatable foods and not by healthy ones. Satiety or any kind of “high” comes from those signallers in your brain, not from ice cream or heroin.
I found this out by accident when I went on a prolonged diet. The longer you go without those junkfoods, the better the healthy stuff tastes.
This property is very similar to drug addictions— when I was drinking, I only felt happy when I was drunk. When I quit, I began to feel happy when I was sober, because some pleasure threshold that alcohol works on was “reset” and I no longer needed the alcohol to experience the release of those neurotransmitters.
I dont think its the immune system. But there is a “memory” at the cellular level which has something to do with how much stimulus is required to release these signallers such as neurotransmitters and hormones.
then you have psychological, and even spiritual.
Its all bio imo. Psychological and spiritual aspects of your experience are illusions rooted in biological phenomena. I used to think I was emotionally dependent on alcohol because I drank once a week and I didn’t think I could be physically addicted at that quantity. But my emotional dependence coincidentally disappeared when I stopped drinking .
His problem is he thinks humans are socially equal to mice.
Some people got into drugs because the people around them were gay and stupid like this presenter - imagine being around men like this softy liberal wacko.
Humans and all global societies would be far better off if ZERO kikes were in positions of authority.
I think to prove this "more complex than rats" theory, we have to put some people in cages and others in orgy parks then watch who drinks the crackwater.
Addiction is when you have a strong physical or psychological need or urge to do something or use something. It is a dependence on a substance or activity even if you know that it causes you harm.
It doesn't necessarily have to cause harm, although some would claim my bacon addiction is harmful. The reality is, my dependence on eating keeps me alive, and enhances both my physical and psychological states. It seems desirable to flee the reality of weakness and hunger pains.
I see nothing wrong with repeating behaviors you correctly perceive as having a net positive effect. A snickers bar is physically harmful, but is also physically and psychologically pleasurable. Same with many activities and substances.
I agree theres a real gray area in terms of what qualifies as addiction. I think an addiction does have to cause harm but harm is a somewhat subjective thing.
[ - ] Dingo [op] 1 point 5 monthsDec 3, 2024 15:20:27 ago (+1/-0)
An addiction to something is just trying to flee reality.
This is a very apt description! The 'escape reality' part is like being 'under a spell' in a way. It seems the real triumph in life is learning 'constraint'.
[ - ] Osmanthus 1 point 5 monthsDec 3, 2024 17:08:02 ago (+1/-0)
You can't just make a blanket statement like this. Most people addicted to opiods became addicted after a medical procedure and taking opiods as prescribed by the doctor. They get a physical addiction that willpower cannot defeat.
[ + ] Sector2
[ - ] Sector2 6 points 5 monthsDec 3, 2024 15:04:12 ago (+7/-1)
That said, I'm about to feed my bacon addiction again. Back to the kirkland brand today, as I've just finished the package of https://hemplers.com/product-types/bacon/. Superior bacon, and will buy more next time.
[ + ] Dingo
[ - ] Dingo [op] 6 points 5 monthsDec 3, 2024 15:16:27 ago (+6/-0)
I haven't been addicted to that since breakfast! :P
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[ - ] xmasskull 2 points 5 monthsDec 3, 2024 15:26:54 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 5 points 5 monthsDec 3, 2024 16:18:37 ago (+5/-0)
We have evolved to experience natural highs with certain pro-survival/reproductive activities. Its natures way of saying “ Yes, do this— it will help you survive, procreate, maintain the population” . It provides motivation in our lives.
This instinctual system —lets call it the pleasure/pain system— can be highjacked with drugs and junkfoods and sex and entertainment. Fundamentally its a dysregulation of this pleasure signalling system. It causes humans to value the wrong things.
Social parasites have engineered these products to live off of slave addicts rather than being productive themselves.
So yes, perhaps an individual deprived of natural “highs” is more susceptible to addictions . But addiction is not an adaptation but an exploit in human biology that some people are taking advantage of. Its evil as shit.
But it still can happen to people with lots of “connections”. There are all kinds of factors that determine whether or not a person becomes addicted to goy slop or wild turkey or heroin. Healthy levels of exposure to physical and mental stimulation is just on of them.
Some people are just going to become alcoholics when exposed to alcohol, regardless of whether they live in a healthy environment.
[ + ] snowpeach
[ - ] snowpeach 0 points 5 monthsDec 3, 2024 18:20:20 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 5 monthsDec 3, 2024 18:52:27 ago (+1/-0)
Yup me too. Omg nyquil was so gross. I also used some prescription stimulants and sedatives. I dropped acid a few times.
I think for me, I can remember a few times when friends pulled out coke or heroin. I was like no fuckin way. That was just where I drew the line. And one good friend just had no limits and now she’s dead. She was just impulsive. She had a pretty good home life. I liked cultivating a “rebel” badass rep. But in truth I was always a bit cautious about things. Of course I drank like a fish back then. But my instincts probably kept me alive on a few occassions.
Kids are raised on all kinds of addictive shit, before they are introduced to drugs and alcohol and porn. I think TV and social media and video games are all really addictive . So is junk food. These “harmless” indulgences cause a dysregulation of emotion in children who are then primed for more serious addictions during puberty because theyve developed a taste for the emotional roller coaster ride of addiction.
[ + ] snowpeach
[ - ] snowpeach 0 points 5 monthsDec 3, 2024 19:40:55 ago (+0/-0)*
Here is one recent discovery, published last month - since food ingredients can trigger addiction, you can safely think that similar mechanism is for all other addictions.
They found out that fat tissue has a "memory" of past obesity. This memory is stored probably on the level of mRNA or even microRNA, influencing how genes in fat cells behave, which ones will be turned on or off...
That's why people, who were before fat and lost weight, they can get fat back again really fast after they start to eat normally after a diet. Here is original published research, but you can find nicer articles from this one:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-024-08165-7
I really think addiction is somehow connected with a immune system, God knows how, but sure there is some memory stored on cellular level, summing up across time all those consumption, and when this goes over some threshold, one gets addicted. Same as with fat people addicted to eating.
Well at least this is a bio view, then you have psychological, and even spiritual. Hah, really there is an old superstition, when an addict (in this case alcoholic) dies, one should not be close around, bc they like to jump on to some living person. Well, this I say more for fun, but who knows. :)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 5 monthsDec 3, 2024 20:15:52 ago (+0/-0)
Food can effect your emotional state— it can make you feel satiated. That is a kind of high. If Im really anxious I know that a pint of chocolate ice cream can erase that uncomfortable mood. There is a real biochemical reaction going on. Same with porn and gambling and video gaming.
What people don’t realize is that just like with alcohol and drugs, regular use of chocolate ice cream begins to create a dependency —with chronic use, you can’t feel ok unless you have chocolate ice cream . You feel extremely unsatisfied if you suddenly switch to salad. After weeks of no ice cream, you begin to feel satiated by the salad. That is because your satiety threshold was “reset” and the neurotransmitters and hormones that control satiety are now released when you eat salad. But hyperpalatable foods like ice cream raise the threshold of those signallers so you can only feel sated by hyperpalatable foods and not by healthy ones. Satiety or any kind of “high” comes from those signallers in your brain, not from ice cream or heroin.
I found this out by accident when I went on a prolonged diet. The longer you go without those junkfoods, the better the healthy stuff tastes.
This property is very similar to drug addictions— when I was drinking, I only felt happy when I was drunk. When I quit, I began to feel happy when I was sober, because some pleasure threshold that alcohol works on was “reset” and I no longer needed the alcohol to experience the release of those neurotransmitters.
I dont think its the immune system. But there is a “memory” at the cellular level which has something to do with how much stimulus is required to release these signallers such as neurotransmitters and hormones.
Its all bio imo. Psychological and spiritual aspects of your experience are illusions rooted in biological phenomena. I used to think I was emotionally dependent on alcohol because I drank once a week and I didn’t think I could be physically addicted at that quantity. But my emotional dependence coincidentally disappeared when I stopped drinking .
[ + ] SumerBreeze
[ - ] SumerBreeze 4 points 5 monthsDec 3, 2024 15:03:01 ago (+4/-0)
Some people got into drugs because the people around them were gay and stupid like this presenter - imagine being around men like this softy liberal wacko.
Humans and all global societies would be far better off if ZERO kikes were in positions of authority.
[ + ] Sector2
[ - ] Sector2 4 points 5 monthsDec 3, 2024 15:05:42 ago (+4/-0)
[ + ] Dingo
[ - ] Dingo [op] 1 point 5 monthsDec 3, 2024 15:21:58 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] albatrosv15
[ - ] albatrosv15 2 points 5 monthsDec 3, 2024 16:47:30 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Dingo
[ - ] Dingo [op] 0 points 5 monthsDec 3, 2024 16:49:18 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Dingo
[ - ] Dingo [op] 0 points 5 monthsDec 3, 2024 17:40:34 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] ProudRebel 2 points 5 monthsDec 3, 2024 15:51:13 ago (+2/-0)
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[ - ] puremadness 0 points 5 monthsDec 4, 2024 01:35:48 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] JustALover
[ - ] JustALover 2 points 5 monthsDec 3, 2024 15:04:39 ago (+2/-0)
I see cocaine and heroin the same way I see cigarettes and World of Warcraft.
(had a friend with a terminal illness that tried to cure himself via WoW, alcohol and transing himself.)
[ + ] Sector2
[ - ] Sector2 2 points 5 monthsDec 3, 2024 15:39:08 ago (+2/-0)*
It doesn't necessarily have to cause harm, although some would claim my bacon addiction is harmful. The reality is, my dependence on eating keeps me alive, and enhances both my physical and psychological states. It seems desirable to flee the reality of weakness and hunger pains.
I see nothing wrong with repeating behaviors you correctly perceive as having a net positive effect. A snickers bar is physically harmful, but is also physically and psychologically pleasurable. Same with many activities and substances.
*missing word
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 5 monthsDec 3, 2024 18:57:27 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Dingo
[ - ] Dingo [op] 1 point 5 monthsDec 3, 2024 15:20:27 ago (+1/-0)
This is a very apt description! The 'escape reality' part is like being 'under a spell' in a way. It seems the real triumph in life is learning 'constraint'.
[ + ] Osmanthus
[ - ] Osmanthus 1 point 5 monthsDec 3, 2024 17:08:02 ago (+1/-0)