The data shows that 20.789 million Americans are collecting social security benefits over the age of 100. Drilling down into the age buckets, benefits are still being paid out to folks over 140!
Should there be a military? Should the state build roads or regulate air traffic or provide emergency services? Should the state prosecute crimes? If yes, how will we pay for those things?
Put simply, make things again and then bring back tariffs.
So, ...taxes.
Question: will having their entire budget from imports incentivize government bureacrats to develop domestic industry. You know, like America making things?
I am pretty sure we had all of those things, and an almost entirely White society before federal income tax was “temporarily” enacted for WW1 (wrong side “won”). Your woman logic is flawed.
FuckShitJesus said end all taxation. All. He didn’t say end federal income tax. He didn’t even specify federal.
How did the government make money before the income tax? Other kinds of taxes. You propose that the government make its money off drug sales like they used to with alcohol and tobacco? Won’t be long till heroine is legal if you do that.
Maybe you think the federal government should get all its revenue through import taxes? Will a government promote domestic industries if all its income is tied to imports?
The government made a lot of money off land sales on the frontier in the 1800s. We don’t have a frontier anymore.
I think your man logic is flawed. Thanks for playing.
Now youre trying to argue that tariffs aren’t taxes. Ok. 🤪
Imorts/exports are totally unnecessary for a populous resource rich country like the US. International trade allows the elites to exploit the workers of their own and other countries. It creates almost all the same problems as immigration. It causes us to get in bed economically with shitskins. And it creates colonial empires that are the cause of basically all wars. There would be no globalists without foreign trade.
Any foreign trade is a threat to US sovereignty and the power of its average citizen.,
But you want so much of it that 10 or 15% of it is going to fund the entire federal government? Youre incentivizing foreign trade. And tariffs are taxes.
[ - ]FuckShitJesus[op] 1 point 2 monthsFeb 17, 2025 19:01:23 ago (+1/-0)
Now youre trying to argue that tariffs aren’t taxes. Ok.
Are you high? I literally said in my other response to you that tariffs are taxes on foreigners, and I don't give a fuck about foreigners because they aren't American.
Taxes on a FREE MAN in a FREE COUNTRY are THEFT. Stop being cunt levels of obtuse just because you're losing an argument (like usual).
I'll simply repeat again, and for the final time - if you bring the means of production back to this Country and then tax imports with tariffs, no true American would ever need to pay taxes. It's how the Country started, and nothing would prevent it from returning to that except the greed of our political elites.
Fuck, you're exhausting because you're either just dumb as shit most of the time or you are intentionally being a provocateur. Maybe both. Sad thing is, I'm actually trying to help your ass out.
I wasnt reading it in the thread. I was responding to it in my comments section. And your comment was in fact below that one. If I had seen it, it would have added little context— that you absurdly claim tariffs are not a tax. You didn’t say “end the federal income tax” — you said “end all taxes” and then you sort of backpedalled.
Rather than hyperventilate about whether I read your posts in the right order, maybe try addressing any of the weaknesses Ive pointed out with your tariff regime. It almost seems as if you are trying to distract from the issue at hand. Maybe you need a new plan, eh?
I mean, if all you can do is play jew semantics games because you don't have the upper hand in a conversation, then I don't really need to continue to play.
END ALL TAXES. PERIOD.
If a tariff was a tax, it would be called a tax. It's not, because it has it's own definition. AKA, get fucked cunt.
This might be an example of you not wanting to hear a truth that contradicts your narrative. Theres a lot of corruption and fraud in social security and similar welfare programs. Its bad enough that productive people are being stolen from. But some of these folks aren’t even following the rules of the contract established for this redistribution scheme. Liberals chronically undervalue the importance of productive behaviors. And rules. We do not live in candyland. Should we have the government write a check to everyone for a million dollars? Would that fix anything? This is whats wrong with the liberal solution of just giving poor people free money. It disincentivizes productivity.
Elon has been caught multiple times lying. Not making mistakes, deliberately lying. Of course there's fraud, no system of delivering money to so many people can be watertight. But I would not believe Elon
Theres no politician or ceo, right or left, that hasn’t been caught lying. Which of these left wing demogogues passes the “honesty” test? None of them. All these guys spin the truth. Elon isnt particularly deceptive for the species. Neither is Donald Trump.
It didn’t bother you when Biden and his fam were caught in multiple lies and illegal financial grifts. So excuse me if I suggest that your dismissal of everything Elon and the DOGE report on government corruption— based on the liberal accusation of a purported lie he made— as arbitrary. Liberals had the opportunity to establish a high standard of truth during the last administration.
no system of delivering money to so many people can be watertight
Than you should want this shit rooted out. This could have been done under Biden. But thats not what the DNC or liberals want. Because ultimately, liberals think accountability is mean.
Of course I don't support Biden lies. That's irrelevant to this. Musk has a long string of lies related to this and I wouldn't believe a word he says. Not just in doge, in most areas.
And as a recipient, dead or alive, try turning off this shit. You can't, there's no number to call, no one who will help. At best, someone tells you to fill a form and that might help. At worst, you get some dumb coon who hangs up on you. The bennies keep flowing because the process to stop them is so absurdly overcomplicated, its impossible to do for a common layman.
The first fraud was fought so hard the thr 1 millionth case fraud is just an accounting error.
At this point I would be infavor of an executive order any amount stolen of tax dollars over x amount is treason and punishable by death or revoke their citizenship and send them to mexico
You know one time I was driving in a shopping center. I saw this white kid who looked like a hipster begging for money. Then a few hundred yards later I saw another white hipster guy. I told myself. I bet they’re friends. Did a little whatever. On my way back I passed them talking to each other next to a car with an oregon license plate. And they had a stack of money. I mean a STACK. So much fucking money: I ask myself: what am I working for if I can sit and beg and do that
Your SS check should be 3x the amount you get. You paid into it your whole life. But there are too many parasites that are being given your money without ever paying a dime. SS was designed as a mandatory retirement plan for the working class American citizen. Your 4 Mexican grandparents and 8 Mexican kids who came here illegally don't deserve a fucking penny.
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Absolutely would have been better then allowing the goverment to handle it
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- https://goldprice.org/gold-price-charts/20-year-gold-price-history-in-us-dollars-per-ounce
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[ + ] FuckShitJesus
[ - ] FuckShitJesus [op] 0 points 2 monthsFeb 17, 2025 19:36:56 ago (+0/-0)
Make things yourself. Investing is rolling the dice that someone else will make things for you. Only a fool takes that kind of gamble.
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Confirmed for not a nigger.
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Edit: oops, you meant your parents have an intact family. My mistake.
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[ - ] FuckShitJesus [op] -1 points 2 monthsFeb 17, 2025 12:01:14 ago (+0/-1)
All taxation programs should be eliminated. Social Security is just theft, it was looted ages ago. Empty as Ft. Knox.
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[ - ] Sector2 0 points 2 monthsFeb 17, 2025 15:23:40 ago (+1/-1)
The effects of lifestyle choices are not theft. Anyone choosing wage slavery knows what they're getting into.
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[ + ] FuckShitJesus
[ - ] FuckShitJesus [op] 2 points 2 monthsFeb 17, 2025 13:17:35 ago (+2/-0)
Put simply, make things again and then bring back tariffs.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2 monthsFeb 17, 2025 18:02:51 ago (+0/-0)
So, ...taxes.
Question: will having their entire budget from imports incentivize government bureacrats to develop domestic industry. You know, like America making things?
[ + ] FuckShitJesus
[ - ] FuckShitJesus [op] 1 point 2 monthsFeb 17, 2025 18:09:24 ago (+1/-0)
I don't understand your question. It's next level of retarded, because it's 100% self-explanatory.
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[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2 monthsFeb 17, 2025 15:22:09 ago (+0/-0)
How did the government make money before the income tax? Other kinds of taxes. You propose that the government make its money off drug sales like they used to with alcohol and tobacco? Won’t be long till heroine is legal if you do that.
Maybe you think the federal government should get all its revenue through import taxes? Will a government promote domestic industries if all its income is tied to imports?
The government made a lot of money off land sales on the frontier in the 1800s. We don’t have a frontier anymore.
I think your man logic is flawed. Thanks for playing.
[ + ] FuckShitJesus
[ - ] FuckShitJesus [op] 0 points 2 monthsFeb 17, 2025 17:08:00 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 2 monthsFeb 17, 2025 18:32:57 ago (+0/-0)
Now youre trying to argue that tariffs aren’t taxes. Ok. 🤪
Imorts/exports are totally unnecessary for a populous resource rich country like the US. International trade allows the elites to exploit the workers of their own and other countries. It creates almost all the same problems as immigration. It causes us to get in bed economically with shitskins. And it creates colonial empires that are the cause of basically all wars. There would be no globalists without foreign trade.
Any foreign trade is a threat to US sovereignty and the power of its average citizen.,
But you want so much of it that 10 or 15% of it is going to fund the entire federal government? Youre incentivizing foreign trade. And tariffs are taxes.
[ + ] FuckShitJesus
[ - ] FuckShitJesus [op] 1 point 2 monthsFeb 17, 2025 19:01:23 ago (+1/-0)
Are you high? I literally said in my other response to you that tariffs are taxes on foreigners, and I don't give a fuck about foreigners because they aren't American.
Taxes on a FREE MAN in a FREE COUNTRY are THEFT. Stop being cunt levels of obtuse just because you're losing an argument (like usual).
I'll simply repeat again, and for the final time - if you bring the means of production back to this Country and then tax imports with tariffs, no true American would ever need to pay taxes. It's how the Country started, and nothing would prevent it from returning to that except the greed of our political elites.
Fuck, you're exhausting because you're either just dumb as shit most of the time or you are intentionally being a provocateur. Maybe both. Sad thing is, I'm actually trying to help your ass out.
[ + ] FuckShitJesus
[ - ] FuckShitJesus [op] 0 points 2 monthsFeb 17, 2025 19:09:15 ago (+0/-0)
https://www.upgoat.net/viewpost?postid=67b368654997b&commentid=67b3c1a4d83d1
It's right above this post. Check eyes plox.
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Rather than hyperventilate about whether I read your posts in the right order, maybe try addressing any of the weaknesses Ive pointed out with your tariff regime. It almost seems as if you are trying to distract from the issue at hand. Maybe you need a new plan, eh?
[ + ] FuckShitJesus
[ - ] FuckShitJesus [op] 0 points 2 monthsFeb 17, 2025 21:41:06 ago (+0/-0)
END ALL TAXES. PERIOD.
If a tariff was a tax, it would be called a tax. It's not, because it has it's own definition. AKA, get fucked cunt.
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[ - ] FuckShitJesus [op] 3 points 2 monthsFeb 17, 2025 15:21:31 ago (+3/-0)
Imagine all those career-bureaucrats trying to make it in the real world at a real job. It gives me a massive Freedom boner.
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Is your USAID Shill program's funding being cut as well?
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So far Trump, and Musk have been correct about everything they claimed.
- #Russiagate
- #HuntersLaptop
- #Obamatappedmywires
- #CorruptObamaJudges
- #FakeNews
- #RiggedElections
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It didn’t bother you when Biden and his fam were caught in multiple lies and illegal financial grifts. So excuse me if I suggest that your dismissal of everything Elon and the DOGE report on government corruption— based on the liberal accusation of a purported lie he made— as arbitrary. Liberals had the opportunity to establish a high standard of truth during the last administration.
Than you should want this shit rooted out. This could have been done under Biden. But thats not what the DNC or liberals want. Because ultimately, liberals think accountability is mean.
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One million is a statistic
The first fraud was fought so hard the thr 1 millionth case fraud is just an accounting error.
At this point I would be infavor of an executive order any amount stolen of tax dollars over x amount is treason and punishable by death or revoke their citizenship and send them to mexico
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[ - ] FuckShitJesus [op] 0 points 2 monthsFeb 17, 2025 15:33:46 ago (+0/-0)
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You paid into it your whole life.
But there are too many parasites that are being given your money without ever paying a dime.
SS was designed as a mandatory retirement plan for the working class American citizen.
Your 4 Mexican grandparents and 8 Mexican kids who came here illegally don't deserve a fucking penny.