Notice how nothing is her fault. The FAA is at fault.
"I'm an emotional wreck, but with 'treatment' I should be allowed to endanger myself and/or others. Because, you know, psychiatric treatment is so effective."
The comments should really make you question your future choice to fly or not.
I'm not really a fan of this bitch, but she's at least got her heart in the right place. There's some people that I know that are just "born" with this love of being in the air. Just like there's some people that can live 10 years on a military base.
I support the decision to take her license away. She's not in the right headspace, and it's a preventative measure that she's upset about, not a confirmed bad record. However, she's still omitting that depression could slow her response time and attention to detail. She was basically forced out a career that she loved into something that she never considered before: a person required to work on herself. Shame that she wants to argue instead of moving on.
Me though, personally, I don't think women should be allowed to fly commercial aircrafts. They can fly personal ones, for sure, but not ones that move giant groups of people who rely on reaching their destination safely. Being a pilot is risky enough as is; nobody wants to take the added risk that their pilot might be having emotional cycles that affect their judgement.
I couldn’t watch this whole fucking thing. But it seems like she was diagnosed with depression so the FAA took her pilots license? That seems like overkill.
it seems like she was diagnosed with depression so the FAA took her pilots license? That seems like overkill.
You're correct, but it's not "overkill".
Do you really want to fly on a plane when the crew has depression? Neither do I. I also don't want to be sharing airspace with other pilots in other aircraft that are suffering from depression. Same goes for air traffic controllers and A&P mechanics who work on my aircraft.
This all started because she and her fuckbuddy couldn't figure out the simplest way to have sex without getting pregnant. Namely, the 'trucker method' (backup before unloading.) Then to truly show her level of stupidity she broadcasts it on jewtube DESPITE being told by other people to keep her fucking mouth shut.
This is simply another example of the weak, deteriorating, crybaby society we live in. Keep lowering standards so that the weak and incompetent can participate where they don't belong.
Do you really want to fly on a plane when the crew has depression? Neither do I. I also don't want to be sharing airspace with other pilots in other aircraft that are suffering from depression.
I don’t care if they have depression, I care whether they can operate a plane competently. Everyone gets depression sooner or later. The expectation that a pilot can always be in perfect health is ridiculous. Going to ban pilots for allergies too? For jock itch?
Can you get a psychiatrist to say she’s a danger to herself or others? Because thats all I care about. Its not hard to meet the criteria for depression , this is just an opportunity for abuse. The FAA is a pack of clowns. Theyre not a sensible organization. They’d ground an excellent pilot with a hangnail and replace him with a lesbian sheboon with an IQ of 85.
Is this woman a commercial pilot? I didn’t see any indication of that. Looks like she flies a little prop plane for fun. This is a fucking arbitrary regulation. Youre high fiving now cause its a wahmen and you probably hate her on that factor alone. Wait until they start banning men for having marital problems or yelling at their kids. This is just like the patriot act. You think its gonna work your way but it ain’t . Shouldn’t be grounding pilots for any type of psychiatric problem whatsoever with no qualification of severity.
I don’t care if they have depression, I care whether they can operate a plane competently.
Do I really have to address how illogical that statement is?
Everyone gets depression sooner or later.
And I don’t want them flying aircraft, operating heavy equipment, performing brain surgery, resealing my driveway...well, hopefully, you get the point.
The expectation that a pilot can always be in perfect health is ridiculous.
There is no such expectation. You are expected to meet the health minimums. That is why, in her case, she is expected to acquire and maintain a 3rd class medical certification.
Disqualifying conditions are those medical conditions that would cause the applicant to be unsafe to fly. The medical condition must be so severe that it makes you dangerous to fly when sober.
Going to ban pilots for allergies too? For jock itch?
Yes, if either of these conditions becomes a major safety concern.
Can you get a psychiatrist to say she’s a danger to herself or others? Because thats all I care about.
It’s in the video, but then again:
I couldn’t watch this whole fucking thing.
The FAA is a pack of clowns. Theyre not a sensible organization.
Probably true.
They’d ground an excellent pilot with a hangnail and replace him with a lesbian sheboon with an IQ of 85.
I think lesbian sheboons are already flying aircraft. I cannot attest to their IQ level but 85 might be generous.
Is this woman a commercial pilot? I didn’t see any indication of that.
No, but the more important question is this: Does this woman share airspace and resources with other commercial and noncommercial aircraft?. Since the answer is obliviously ‘yes’, she does not belong in a pilots seat.
This is a fucking arbitrary regulation.
Yeah, they made up this regulation just to get her. Even though she admits she knew that mental health is a major concern when she got her license. More importantly, her associates told her not to make a jewtube video subsequent to her breakdown because it would get her into trouble.
Youre high fiving now cause its a wahmen and you probably hate her on that factor alone.
The best pilot I ever flew with was a woman. I got most of my licenses and ratings while training under her tutelage. And this was many decades ago before "wahmen" were allowed to skirt the requirements to meet arbitrary quotas. Her record of accomplishment was so stellar that she was recognized not only by the FAA but also the DOT.
Wait until they start banning men for having marital problems or yelling at their kids.
A possibility.
This is just like the patriot act. You think its gonna work your way but it ain’t .
Hysterics. The two are mostly unrelated save for the fact that government has overwhelming power given to it by the people. (Yes, the mental heath regulations regarding airman were created in response to public demand. Dead loved ones tend to invoke emotional responses in the survivors.)
Shouldn’t be grounding pilots for any type of psychiatric problem whatsoever with no qualification of severity.
She was properly evaluated, and it was determined she was unqualified. Perhaps they should have consulted you on what justifies safe versus non-safe? You do seem to have an experienced opinion regarding aviation safety.
Do I really have to address how illogical that statement is?
Yeah you do.
And I don’t want them flying aircraft, operating heavy equipment, performing brain surgery, resealing my driveway...well, hopefully, you get the point.
I want everyone flying planes to have perfect health and perfect mood. But thats an unrealistic expectation. And giving a government agency power to enforce such a rubric is a recipe for disaster. I don’t want my pilot to have allergies either. But its not reasonable to fire him for it.
No, but the more important question is this: Does this woman share airspace and resources with other commercial and noncommercial aircraft?. Since the answer is obliviously ‘yes’, she does not belong in a pilots seat.
People with allergies share roadspace with commercial and non-comercial vehicles. Should we put a stop to this? The guy in the car next to me could sneeze and kill me. Arbitrary.
Yeah, they made up this regulation just to get her.
Strawman. Its not remotely what I said.,
Even though she admits she knew that mental health is a major concern when she got her license.
Yeah she understood that suicidality/homocidality is a concern. Not depression. You keep trying to conflate these issues.
More importantly, her associates told her not to make a jewtube video subsequent to her breakdown because it would get her into trouble.
That is not grounds for mental instability. Can’t believe Im hearing this from a goat. “You were told not to criticize immigrants on social media! You were told not to question the safety of the vax!” Its her fault because she was honest about her problem and didn’t believe it was disqualifying? Thats totally corrupt. Terrible argument. If its a bad policy its a bad policy and she can’t be wrong for being truthful. You are begging the question.
Hysterics. The two are mostly unrelated save for the fact that government has overwhelming power given to it by the people.
Theyre not unrelated. You give a government bureaucracy power to over-regulate on the premise that they are going to go after violent muslim invaders and now you have Nick Fuentes on the no-fly list. Bureacratic overreach is the exact problem we’re discussing.
Dead loved ones tend to invoke emotional responses in the survivors.)
So all pilots with dead loved ones should be grounded, yeah?
She was properly evaluated, and it was determined she was unqualified. Perhaps they should have consulted you on what justifies safe versus non-safe? You do seem to have an experienced opinion regarding aviation safety
No. That is your opinion. She should be evaluated based on whether she was “safe” but she wasn’t evalutated based on that criterion and no amount of hyperventilating will change this fact. Evaluation of depression is not evalution of safety. Sorry.
I'm done discussing this topic with you since you have absolutely no knowledge of aviation or aviation safety in general. Nor can you even address this woman's situation in particular.
Which brings up I've noticed from your other posts on this site. You put a lot of effort into trying to convey that you are knowledgeable and logical about a topic when in fact you are neither. You bitch when men stereotype women and yet oftentimes you are the very epitome of those stereotypes. You fail to understand that your weaknesses—and lack any insight regarding these weaknesses—only reinforces their stereotypes of you and other women.
I also have come to understand why @Dangus treats you the way he does. Not that I necessarily agree with his methods, but I think I understand. That is one thing I certainly have garnered from this discourse.
Regardless, since I am unable to enlighten you on this topic, and you are certainly unable to drag me into your realm of ignorance and stupidity, I must bid you adieu.
Now remember: Defend that fragile ego of yours—no matter the havoc it renders in you life! (But I'm sure you're already well aware of this reality.)
I watched all the way to :50, but it was a neverendingintro.
I can see revoking a commercial pilots license for being so depressed you end up being diagnosed with depression. Same goes for any condition that causes enhanced levels of suicide.
Seems like overkill for a single engine pilots license.
Except for the fact that she is a danger to herself and more importantly: others in the air and on the ground. But I guess in a degenerate society such as ours what's one more fucked up person running around ruining shit for everybody else?
Yea, agreed. That she still went ahead and made ytube videos after being warned by others not too because it might come back to bite her in the ass with the FAA, while in the midst of experiencing downward mental health issues - just kinda reinforced the very real issue of making potentially very bad decisions - while still thinking it's a great idea.
Heck the insert she showed near the beginning of this video of one of her ytube videos she titled 'How my IUD tried to kill me' - explaining how the IUD hormone change caused her depression or something for almost an entire year until she self-stabilized. Like wow such a click baity title, but trust me totally nothing to worry about everyone.
Is she a danger to herself? Is that the criteria for major depression diagnoses? No it isnt.
Why dont you ask a psychiatrist to assess if she is a danger to herself or someone else? Nah, why would you do that when you can assess her for a totally different set of criteria and then use innuendo to infer that she’s a danger to herself and others. Totally logical. 🤪
Also “major depression” does not mean “really extreme depression” . These diagnoses are not intuitive. Lots of people struggling with a mood disorder or a recent loss get diagnosed with depression for insurance purposes. It doesn’t indicate that the person is a big risk to pull a kamikaze. If your wife died would you have an increased risk of suicide? Yes of course, statistically. But you can’t just yank people’s license for that shit. I just think OP doesn’t like women with pink hair and IUDs. But if you make this the standard its going to be applied to straight white men too.
You make a solid comment and then debase it with "... its going to be applied to straight white men too." It is applied to them as well. Meh, good enough. Upvoted.
From the perspective of a passenger, anyone with increased risk or lowered performance shouldn't be flying as your pilot. That's obviously all defensterated now, but it remains the case in theory.
It would be a bigger deal if it wasn't just a small part of the whole airline industry that's gone to shit.
From the perspective of a passenger, anyone with increased risk or lowered performance shouldn't be flying as your pilot.
Lowered performance from what though? Perfect health? At risk of purity spiralling, Im going to have to argue that perfect health is an impractical standard for a pilots license. Age, other conditions like allergies or irritable bowel syndrome are going to impact performance a little bit. Being diagnosed with depression is usually indicative of a minor condition that will not significantly effect the operation of complex machinery in a trained person. Id like for my pilot to have a 160 IQ and perfect reflexes. Id like for him to have 20 years flight experience and also be his own mechanic. But I can’t have everything I want.
That is why I think pilots diagnosed with depression should be assessed for suicidality or homocidality, not disqualified for seeking treatment for what might be a mild condition which would have little or no impact on flying ability. It does seem arbitrary. They have lowered performance standards for shitskins and women but that is a separate issue. Im not suggesting that they lower the bar for suicidal pilots. Im arguing that pilots be assessed for actual suicidality and not for seeing a shrink.
Lowered performance from anything. Ideally, there would some kind of screening at the point where the pilot shows up to fly the airplane. Obviously both passengers and airline companies don't see the cost/benefit ratio, so the only thing to do is follow your own personal standards.
But I can’t have everything I want.
That's why I don't participate in commercial flying.
If you think depression should remove a license for a private flight pilot because danger to others, we should also remove the depressed persons driver's license. Because SAFETY FIRST!!1!(tm)
Life is dangerous. We try to reduce it to a reasonable level. Snowflakes strive to eliminate it at ridiculous external costs. Go build some more speedbumps in ALL THE ROADZ, suspensions and brake costs be damned. We need a Day of the Safety Rope.
So you think these restrictions were implemented at the request of snowflakes? I recommend you do some research into the history of aviation safety to see how this all came about. (Hint Death = Regulation) The horrific plane crashes, and loss of life, that could have been prevented had restrictions/regulations been implemented earlier will change your mind. (Assuming your IQ is above that of a Somalian.) Aviation safety is an ongoing practice. You can learn a lot from good jewtube channels like this:
[ + ] AlexanderMorose13
[ - ] AlexanderMorose13 4 points 1 monthMar 7, 2025 16:53:14 ago (+4/-0)
I support the decision to take her license away. She's not in the right headspace, and it's a preventative measure that she's upset about, not a confirmed bad record. However, she's still omitting that depression could slow her response time and attention to detail. She was basically forced out a career that she loved into something that she never considered before: a person required to work on herself. Shame that she wants to argue instead of moving on.
Me though, personally, I don't think women should be allowed to fly commercial aircrafts. They can fly personal ones, for sure, but not ones that move giant groups of people who rely on reaching their destination safely. Being a pilot is risky enough as is; nobody wants to take the added risk that their pilot might be having emotional cycles that affect their judgement.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 2 points 1 monthMar 7, 2025 12:01:37 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Consensus_Reality
[ - ] Consensus_Reality [op] 7 points 1 monthMar 7, 2025 13:22:17 ago (+7/-0)*
You're correct, but it's not "overkill".
Do you really want to fly on a plane when the crew has depression? Neither do I. I also don't want to be sharing airspace with other pilots in other aircraft that are suffering from depression. Same goes for air traffic controllers and A&P mechanics who work on my aircraft.
This all started because she and her fuckbuddy couldn't figure out the simplest way to have sex without getting pregnant. Namely, the 'trucker method' (backup before unloading.) Then to truly show her level of stupidity she broadcasts it on jewtube DESPITE being told by other people to keep her fucking mouth shut.
This is simply another example of the weak, deteriorating, crybaby society we live in. Keep lowering standards so that the weak and incompetent can participate where they don't belong.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 1 monthMar 7, 2025 16:47:50 ago (+1/-1)
I don’t care if they have depression, I care whether they can operate a plane competently. Everyone gets depression sooner or later. The expectation that a pilot can always be in perfect health is ridiculous. Going to ban pilots for allergies too? For jock itch?
Can you get a psychiatrist to say she’s a danger to herself or others? Because thats all I care about. Its not hard to meet the criteria for depression , this is just an opportunity for abuse. The FAA is a pack of clowns. Theyre not a sensible organization. They’d ground an excellent pilot with a hangnail and replace him with a lesbian sheboon with an IQ of 85.
Is this woman a commercial pilot? I didn’t see any indication of that. Looks like she flies a little prop plane for fun. This is a fucking arbitrary regulation. Youre high fiving now cause its a wahmen and you probably hate her on that factor alone. Wait until they start banning men for having marital problems or yelling at their kids. This is just like the patriot act. You think its gonna work your way but it ain’t . Shouldn’t be grounding pilots for any type of psychiatric problem whatsoever with no qualification of severity.
[ + ] Consensus_Reality
[ - ] Consensus_Reality [op] 4 points 1 monthMar 7, 2025 19:16:19 ago (+4/-0)
Do I really have to address how illogical that statement is?
And I don’t want them flying aircraft, operating heavy equipment, performing brain surgery, resealing my driveway...well, hopefully, you get the point.
There is no such expectation. You are expected to meet the health minimums. That is why, in her case, she is expected to acquire and maintain a 3rd class medical certification.
https://www.flyingmag.com/guides/how-to-get-a-third-class-medical-certificate/
From the article:
Yes, if either of these conditions becomes a major safety concern.
It’s in the video, but then again:
The FAA is a pack of clowns. Theyre not a sensible organization.
I think lesbian sheboons are already flying aircraft. I cannot attest to their IQ level but 85 might be generous.
No, but the more important question is this: Does this woman share airspace and resources with other commercial and noncommercial aircraft?. Since the answer is obliviously ‘yes’, she does not belong in a pilots seat.
Yeah, they made up this regulation just to get her. Even though she admits she knew that mental health is a major concern when she got her license. More importantly, her associates told her not to make a jewtube video subsequent to her breakdown because it would get her into trouble.
The best pilot I ever flew with was a woman. I got most of my licenses and ratings while training under her tutelage. And this was many decades ago before "wahmen" were allowed to skirt the requirements to meet arbitrary quotas. Her record of accomplishment was so stellar that she was recognized not only by the FAA but also the DOT.
A possibility.
Hysterics. The two are mostly unrelated save for the fact that government has overwhelming power given to it by the people. (Yes, the mental heath regulations regarding airman were created in response to public demand. Dead loved ones tend to invoke emotional responses in the survivors.)
She was properly evaluated, and it was determined she was unqualified. Perhaps they should have consulted you on what justifies safe versus non-safe? You do seem to have an experienced opinion regarding aviation safety.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena -1 points 1 monthMar 7, 2025 20:31:02 ago (+0/-1)
Yeah you do.
I want everyone flying planes to have perfect health and perfect mood. But thats an unrealistic expectation. And giving a government agency power to enforce such a rubric is a recipe for disaster. I don’t want my pilot to have allergies either. But its not reasonable to fire him for it.
People with allergies share roadspace with commercial and non-comercial vehicles. Should we put a stop to this? The guy in the car next to me could sneeze and kill me. Arbitrary.
Strawman. Its not remotely what I said.,
Yeah she understood that suicidality/homocidality is a concern. Not depression. You keep trying to conflate these issues.
That is not grounds for mental instability. Can’t believe Im hearing this from a goat. “You were told not to criticize immigrants on social media! You were told not to question the safety of the vax!” Its her fault because she was honest about her problem and didn’t believe it was disqualifying? Thats totally corrupt. Terrible argument. If its a bad policy its a bad policy and she can’t be wrong for being truthful. You are begging the question.
Theyre not unrelated. You give a government bureaucracy power to over-regulate on the premise that they are going to go after violent muslim invaders and now you have Nick Fuentes on the no-fly list. Bureacratic overreach is the exact problem we’re discussing.
So all pilots with dead loved ones should be grounded, yeah?
No. That is your opinion. She should be evaluated based on whether she was “safe” but she wasn’t evalutated based on that criterion and no amount of hyperventilating will change this fact. Evaluation of depression is not evalution of safety. Sorry.
[ + ] Consensus_Reality
[ - ] Consensus_Reality [op] 2 points 1 monthMar 7, 2025 23:16:06 ago (+2/-0)
Which brings up I've noticed from your other posts on this site. You put a lot of effort into trying to convey that you are knowledgeable and logical about a topic when in fact you are neither. You bitch when men stereotype women and yet oftentimes you are the very epitome of those stereotypes. You fail to understand that your weaknesses—and lack any insight regarding these weaknesses—only reinforces their stereotypes of you and other women.
I also have come to understand why @Dangus treats you the way he does. Not that I necessarily agree with his methods, but I think I understand. That is one thing I certainly have garnered from this discourse.
Regardless, since I am unable to enlighten you on this topic, and you are certainly unable to drag me into your realm of ignorance and stupidity, I must bid you adieu.
Now remember: Defend that fragile ego of yours—no matter the havoc it renders in you life! (But I'm sure you're already well aware of this reality.)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 1 monthMar 8, 2025 12:20:05 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Sector2
[ - ] Sector2 2 points 1 monthMar 7, 2025 17:50:15 ago (+2/-0)
I can see revoking a commercial pilots license for being so depressed you end up being diagnosed with depression. Same goes for any condition that causes enhanced levels of suicide.
Seems like overkill for a single engine pilots license.
[ + ] Consensus_Reality
[ - ] Consensus_Reality [op] 2 points 1 monthMar 7, 2025 19:18:15 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] dassar
[ - ] dassar 2 points 1 monthMar 7, 2025 19:31:17 ago (+2/-0)
That she still went ahead and made ytube videos after being warned by others not too because it might come back to bite her in the ass with the FAA, while in the midst of experiencing downward mental health issues - just kinda reinforced the very real issue of making potentially very bad decisions - while still thinking it's a great idea.
Heck the insert she showed near the beginning of this video of one of her ytube videos she titled 'How my IUD tried to kill me' - explaining how the IUD hormone change caused her depression or something for almost an entire year until she self-stabilized. Like wow such a click baity title, but trust me totally nothing to worry about everyone.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 1 monthMar 7, 2025 19:59:30 ago (+0/-0)*
Why dont you ask a psychiatrist to assess if she is a danger to herself or someone else? Nah, why would you do that when you can assess her for a totally different set of criteria and then use innuendo to infer that she’s a danger to herself and others. Totally logical. 🤪
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 2 points 1 monthMar 7, 2025 19:52:17 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] GrayDragon
[ - ] GrayDragon 1 point 1 monthMar 7, 2025 21:49:01 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 1 monthMar 7, 2025 21:52:10 ago (+0/-0)
Maybe I know my audience.
[ + ] VitaminSieg
[ - ] VitaminSieg 1 point 1 monthMar 8, 2025 01:16:44 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Sector2
[ - ] Sector2 0 points 1 monthMar 8, 2025 05:41:53 ago (+0/-0)
It would be a bigger deal if it wasn't just a small part of the whole airline industry that's gone to shit.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 1 monthMar 8, 2025 12:57:43 ago (+0/-0)
Lowered performance from what though? Perfect health? At risk of purity spiralling, Im going to have to argue that perfect health is an impractical standard for a pilots license. Age, other conditions like allergies or irritable bowel syndrome are going to impact performance a little bit. Being diagnosed with depression is usually indicative of a minor condition that will not significantly effect the operation of complex machinery in a trained person. Id like for my pilot to have a 160 IQ and perfect reflexes. Id like for him to have 20 years flight experience and also be his own mechanic. But I can’t have everything I want.
That is why I think pilots diagnosed with depression should be assessed for suicidality or homocidality, not disqualified for seeking treatment for what might be a mild condition which would have little or no impact on flying ability. It does seem arbitrary. They have lowered performance standards for shitskins and women but that is a separate issue. Im not suggesting that they lower the bar for suicidal pilots. Im arguing that pilots be assessed for actual suicidality and not for seeing a shrink.
[ + ] Sector2
[ - ] Sector2 0 points 1 monthMar 8, 2025 15:17:49 ago (+0/-0)
That's why I don't participate in commercial flying.
[ + ] GrayDragon
[ - ] GrayDragon 1 point 1 monthMar 7, 2025 21:38:49 ago (+1/-0)
Life is dangerous. We try to reduce it to a reasonable level. Snowflakes strive to eliminate it at ridiculous external costs. Go build some more speedbumps in ALL THE ROADZ, suspensions and brake costs be damned. We need a Day of the Safety Rope.
[ + ] Consensus_Reality
[ - ] Consensus_Reality [op] 2 points 1 monthMar 7, 2025 22:33:57 ago (+2/-0)
Mentour Pilot
https://www.youtube.com/@MentourPilot/videos
Here's something else that's of interest:
I've Lost 4 Friends in 60 Days - Aviation Safety Discussion | Mike Patey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1nXjPhGrwY
Educate yourself; stop being part of the problem.