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Putin lists guarantees Moscow wants for 30-day ceasefire

submitted by Flanders to whatever 3 monthsMar 13, 2025 20:02:54 ago (+5/-0)     (whatever)


"The Russian president wants assurances that Kiev will halt military mobilization, soldier training, and arms deliveries" [Continues]:

https://www.rt.com/russia/614167-putin-ukraine-ceasefire-guarantees/


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[ - ] jfroybees 3 points 3 monthsMar 13, 2025 20:13:23 ago (+3/-0)

"The president pointed out that Russian troops are advancing along nearly 2,000 kilometers of frontline, and halting military actions could disrupt ongoing operations. Ukrainian forces could use a ceasefire period to regroup, receive more weapons, and train fresh recruits, he warned.

'These 30 days — how will they be used? To continue forced mobilization in Ukraine? To receive more arms supplies? To train newly mobilized units? Or will none of this happen?" Putin asked."

More than reasonable for Putin to bring up. Europe, and specifically Britain, should not poke the bear. Britian really thinks this will be a repeat of churchill's devious plottings.

[ - ] Flanders [op] 4 points 3 monthsMar 13, 2025 20:23:56 ago (+4/-0)

Putin sounded very reasonable, and I think he expected the usual EU globalist BS. That's probably what he'll get, too.

[ - ] localsal 3 points 3 monthsMar 13, 2025 20:43:08 ago (+3/-0)

My thoughts exactly. Whatever the West promises will never be held up, and the minute the 30 days is over Putin will be hit hard, which will then require a very hard pushback.

Those kike bunkers are going to be filled fast on that 30th day.

[ - ] qwop 1 point 3 monthsMar 13, 2025 21:24:15 ago (+1/-0)

It's funny the democrats keep saying Putin can't be trusted. The projection is strong.

[ - ] prototype 2 points 3 monthsMar 13, 2025 22:49:31 ago (+2/-0)*

It's funny the democrats keep saying Putin can't be trusted. The projection is strong.

An untrustworthy group saying another is untrustworthy isn't proof of the opposite.
It's a heuristic, and like all rules of thumb, can and will be wrong on more than one occasion.

If putin accepts a ceasefire there are three possible conclusions 1. he's an idiot, 2. this war was agreed to before hand for the purposes of genociding the ukrainians, 3. russia is in a worse spot than they claim.

As number one is highly, unlikely, and number three is also unlikely, that leaves number two.

The russians may be worried about a real world war three, but the long-and-short of it the u.s. will lose that war. barring that, the russians will be forced into a forever war, and asked for a cease fire every time ukraine is losing going forward.

The russians hope by avoiding war, they can use cease-fires as a negotiation tactic to implement political attrition over military attrition against the west.

If it looks like that strategy is ever going to win the west will, at some point, decide to commit to a massive attack against russia, be it europe carrying it out or the u.s.

This is a stalling tactic by russia.

If the u.s. and the west are stalling, they know all of this too, which suggests they have something else in the works because we always double down. Therefore if desperate measures always finally resort in 'last measures', we can conclude whatever the west is planning is designed to 1. utterly devastate russia in a non-recoverable way, 2. will be carried out at the end of this initial cease-fire.

We can conclude therefore russia knows this, and if they accept the cease fire, then they are planning their own major move before the conclusion of the cease-fire.

On the otherhand, if they accept the ceasefire and nothing comes of it but a resumption of the same intensity of conflict, then by contrapositive we can conclude the entire war was orchestrated for the purpose of ethnically cleansing ukrainians, with dead russians as a byproduct, being considered "acceptable losses" by their own government.

Naturally this information is useful, sorting out whether the russian's are serving the russian people's interests, or some other, internationalist interests at the expense of their own citizens, which would be unacceptable. Those who go to war with no intention of winning commit one of the most serious of errors. Leaders must be as serious as they are committed, even if it means the destruction of the whole world as a result. Because warfare is the process by which the scales are balanced, how civilization historically engaged in eugenics, so to meddle in the process by entering with no intention to win, they pollute the results and reduce the genetic fitness of the world as a result.


[ - ] Imsickofmakingusernames 0 points 3 monthsMar 14, 2025 08:05:07 ago (+0/-0)

4. Or maybe they always actually wanted peace and were forced into this situation. When inevitable the cabal make their next move it will only solidify who the aggressors always were.

[ - ] Imsickofmakingusernames 0 points 3 monthsMar 14, 2025 08:02:25 ago (+0/-0)

100%. I’m sure it’s so the European Commission can get their shit together militarily.

[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 3 monthsMar 13, 2025 23:03:01 ago (+1/-0)

@sal_180

Are these terms acceptable?

[ - ] rabidR04CH 1 point 3 monthsMar 13, 2025 21:19:56 ago (+1/-0)

I honestly can't fault Putin here.

[ - ] Imsickofmakingusernames 0 points 3 monthsMar 14, 2025 08:08:28 ago (+0/-0)

Yes. The more you actually know about geopolitics and history the more clear it all becomes. We are brainwashed to hate Putin because he has been the biggest obstacle to their New World Order. A lot of faggots here think they understand what they are talking about, yet if they just took a moment to realized they are aligned with scum like Hillary Clinton and CNN it would become painfully obvious.