The one I have is torque assist. The motor turns on when you apply any presure to the chain.
As I understand it, cadence sensors try to guess when you are going to apply presure next, although I've never experienced this myself, so maybe I'm wrong.
Seems like cadence could give false positives and be annoying.
Most of the 'real' bikes like specialized and such have small motors and small batteries and cost a lot.
My ebike cost about $1000USD making it my cheapest bike, but it came with a battery worth $400USD and a motor/controller combo worth about $400USD. The forks are shit, the cranks and drivetrain are all crap. But that's another $200 easy.
Add the wheels, tires, frame etc.. it's a crazy deal for these Chinese bikes.
As long as you're prepared to replace parts as they fail and have some basic repair knowledge I would recommend some of the Chinese bikes. I have something like 5500 miles on mine in snow and rain and coated in freezing rain. The forks stopped working after a crash, the cranks got bent, got hit by a car etc.
Only thing I had to replace to keep riding was the motor gears which are made of nylon. If you aren't a faggot that's easy to do.
I ride the absolute PISS out of my bikes and even got hit by a car. This $1000 POS has a solid motor and battery, which is the most important thing for most people.
Quite a bit. There are two kinds of pedal assistance. But different controllers will do them slightly different.
One is torque based. It detects how hard you're pushing on the pedal and immediately provides power based on how hard you're pushing. This is best for low power/small battery ebikes where you actually want a workout and to maintain normal bike feel.
The other is cadence based. It will have to detect a turn of the pedal before providing power. With heavy e-bikes this makes starting wretched. You would want a throttle (depending if you care about local regulations) so you can start off the line easier.
With torque based pedal assistance you have to keep providing power. With cadence based you can 'ghost pedal' to make it look like you're riding a bike but all you're doing is turning the cranks.
I have cadence based but I cruise around doing 30+mph and I'm still providing about 100-200watts of power almost the whole time, but I'm a cyclist.
My main tip is don't pay attention to their advertised range and get a much larger battery than you think you need.
I bought a Cycrown Cycverve for a cheap winter beater, put a second battery with double the stock capacity, a battery splitter. Everything on the bike is CHEAP as fuck but I ride the absolute piss out of it every day. I've had it 6 months and put almost 10000km on it in ice mud and salt. Got SMOKED by a car too. Nothing is seriously broken or damaged.
question: Could you wire in one of those soft, flexiable 20 watt solar panels, say to the back rack or whatever, too provide some additional capacity while out and about?
For sure it wouldn't charge the bike (unless left out for a few days???) but could provide some additional range on the battery by trickle charging throughout the day????????
Unfortunately you need to charge these batteries at 52v for 48v batteries and they only go up from there. You'd need to rig up the solar, a controller, the battery charger etc. the weight and fuck around of it would definitely outweigh any gains.
after doing actual bike training (impossible in 99% of the city) and working I just want to cruise around relatively easy if I'm beat. A lot of people get them because they're broke, out of shape, injured, or there are people who are in extreme shape who just want to do what they enjoy for longer without overtraining or sweating like crazy.
[ + ] Spaceman84
[ - ] Spaceman84 1 point 2 monthsMar 21, 2025 21:12:58 ago (+2/-1)
[ + ] Master_Foo
[ - ] Master_Foo -2 points 2 monthsMar 21, 2025 16:29:29 ago (+0/-2)
The motor turns on when you apply any presure to the chain.
As I understand it, cadence sensors try to guess when you are going to apply presure next, although I've never experienced this myself, so maybe I'm wrong.
Seems like cadence could give false positives and be annoying.
[ + ] DukeofRaul
[ - ] DukeofRaul -1 points 2 monthsMar 21, 2025 16:01:33 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] namefagsrgay
[ - ] namefagsrgay 1 point 2 monthsMar 21, 2025 19:29:11 ago (+1/-0)
My ebike cost about $1000USD making it my cheapest bike, but it came with a battery worth $400USD and a motor/controller combo worth about $400USD. The forks are shit, the cranks and drivetrain are all crap. But that's another $200 easy.
Add the wheels, tires, frame etc.. it's a crazy deal for these Chinese bikes.
As long as you're prepared to replace parts as they fail and have some basic repair knowledge I would recommend some of the Chinese bikes. I have something like 5500 miles on mine in snow and rain and coated in freezing rain. The forks stopped working after a crash, the cranks got bent, got hit by a car etc.
Only thing I had to replace to keep riding was the motor gears which are made of nylon. If you aren't a faggot that's easy to do.
I ride the absolute PISS out of my bikes and even got hit by a car. This $1000 POS has a solid motor and battery, which is the most important thing for most people.
[ + ] Anus_Expander
[ - ] Anus_Expander 1 point 2 monthsMar 21, 2025 15:27:54 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Zyklonbeekeeper
[ - ] Zyklonbeekeeper 2 points 2 monthsMar 21, 2025 15:18:23 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] namefagsrgay
[ - ] namefagsrgay 5 points 2 monthsMar 21, 2025 15:14:32 ago (+5/-0)
There are two kinds of pedal assistance. But different controllers will do them slightly different.
One is torque based. It detects how hard you're pushing on the pedal and immediately provides power based on how hard you're pushing. This is best for low power/small battery ebikes where you actually want a workout and to maintain normal bike feel.
The other is cadence based. It will have to detect a turn of the pedal before providing power. With heavy e-bikes this makes starting wretched. You would want a throttle (depending if you care about local regulations) so you can start off the line easier.
With torque based pedal assistance you have to keep providing power. With cadence based you can 'ghost pedal' to make it look like you're riding a bike but all you're doing is turning the cranks.
I have cadence based but I cruise around doing 30+mph and I'm still providing about 100-200watts of power almost the whole time, but I'm a cyclist.
My main tip is don't pay attention to their advertised range and get a much larger battery than you think you need.
I bought a Cycrown Cycverve for a cheap winter beater, put a second battery with double the stock capacity, a battery splitter. Everything on the bike is CHEAP as fuck but I ride the absolute piss out of it every day. I've had it 6 months and put almost 10000km on it in ice mud and salt. Got SMOKED by a car too. Nothing is seriously broken or damaged.
If you have any more questions feel free to ask.
[ + ] glooper
[ - ] glooper 2 points 2 monthsMar 21, 2025 15:24:25 ago (+2/-0)
For sure it wouldn't charge the bike (unless left out for a few days???) but could provide some additional range on the battery by trickle charging throughout the day????????
[ + ] namefagsrgay
[ - ] namefagsrgay 2 points 2 monthsMar 21, 2025 15:42:17 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Gigglestick
[ - ] Gigglestick [op] 0 points 2 monthsMar 22, 2025 14:35:18 ago (+0/-0)
What do you think of this one?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09G6JR7YR/ref=sspa_dk_offsite_brave_1?psc=1&aaxitk=add2dbe0633823a52cb351a3113a58f0&tqtoken=AgR41gqXaay76JRJRe5NcWIcTb_r137u9fGYhPX2pZHaIToAGgABAAlyZWNpcGllbnQAC0FtYXpvbkFkc1RRAAEAEWF3cy1rbXMtaGllcmFyY2h5ACRiM2NlMjE3OS0wMzJhLTQ5NTAtOWFlZC00MTczZDMxZmNhMmEAXAlhDG_bCzHEBsusXejEwH2Ps_MwCXpm9UXNy4TtK8nXMwFE6ZdgvB9GW5UIaV5-HH3H2oBHu9ceRnUqYy_eJg-1ty899-Z4SLDFoNPdX3wdEDLT45v3iVzV9VB8AgAAEABJMqK7QjPB5WdeicGhwQG6Ty17fecZyVCP9tUmIXXwB6SX0injk4a3ynLvGfUS6oH_____AAAAAQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQAAABqPyPxOddoyvpyX5FGioZRSQsCKkDIW5zcyWCFzWNyNX02nGaGoY3sNx-0=&offsiteFlag=1
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[ + ] xmasskull
[ - ] xmasskull 0 points 2 monthsMar 21, 2025 15:11:51 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] namefagsrgay
[ - ] namefagsrgay 3 points 2 monthsMar 21, 2025 15:19:02 ago (+3/-0)
A lot of people get them because they're broke, out of shape, injured, or there are people who are in extreme shape who just want to do what they enjoy for longer without overtraining or sweating like crazy.
[ + ] xmasskull
[ - ] xmasskull 2 points 2 monthsMar 21, 2025 15:25:24 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Gigglestick
[ - ] Gigglestick [op] 1 point 2 monthsMar 21, 2025 16:56:25 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] DukeofRaul
[ - ] DukeofRaul 0 points 2 monthsMar 21, 2025 16:02:06 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] BushChuck5002
[ - ] BushChuck5002 0 points 2 monthsMar 21, 2025 15:03:30 ago (+1/-1)
I've been using Golden Motor for over a decade.
[ + ] Gigglestick
[ - ] Gigglestick [op] 1 point 2 monthsMar 21, 2025 16:59:33 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] DukeofRaul
[ - ] DukeofRaul -1 points 2 monthsMar 21, 2025 17:08:52 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] BushChuck5002
[ - ] BushChuck5002 -1 points 2 monthsMar 22, 2025 08:07:11 ago (+0/-1)
I'd say that's a pretty good endorsement.
[ + ] SumerBreeze
[ - ] SumerBreeze 1 point 2 monthsMar 21, 2025 14:42:06 ago (+3/-2)
[ + ] Gigglestick
[ - ] Gigglestick [op] 2 points 2 monthsMar 21, 2025 16:55:21 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Trope
[ - ] Trope 1 point 2 monthsMar 21, 2025 21:06:24 ago (+2/-1)
I’ve seen this new confangled contraptions and it’s always fat people riding them in urban areas.
Stay lean, my guy.
[ + ] Gigglestick
[ - ] Gigglestick [op] 0 points 2 monthsMar 22, 2025 14:30:36 ago (+0/-0)