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The homeless are better than the housed

submitted by Joe_McCarthy to OccidentalEnclave 3 weeksApr 6, 2025 15:16:13 ago (+2/-3)     (OccidentalEnclave)

A post I made about a week ago. This idea deserves more development.

https://www.upgoat.net/viewpost?postid=67e8bb9a233e3&commentid=67e9d40643a0f

The homeless come in all kinds. Lots of mentally ill. I've been told up to 40%. But I suspect much of that is just mistaken drug addiction. The stereotype is basically three sorts or a combo - criminals that can't get a job or housing, drug addicts, or crazy. Some are just old a/o disabled and can't work.

Even the worst of them are better than the housed though usually. The housed work more, and thus prop up the system, pay more taxes, and thus prop up the system, and are less likely to be on relief, so don't bleed the system as much. Transients also leave less of a carbon footprint so are doing less to destroy the environment.

More:

https://www.upgoat.net/viewpost?postid=67ec31a21d007

This is already too easy actually.


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[ - ] HelenHighwater 1 point 3 weeksApr 6, 2025 15:34:16 ago (+1/-0)*

Many homeless are leeches that suck the blood of a functioning society. Begging, stealing, and abusing charity; constantly cutting away pieces of what others have created for their selfish own needs. Unfortunate, because a small percentage really need assistance, and the rest of the "homeless" only serve to ensure that the rest of society loathe them. Siddhartha and JC didn't shamelessly destroy their surroundings, leaving a trash strewn shitscape everywhere they went.

Not only that, but there is almost no written evidence of jesus christ outside of some historically doctored passages by josephus.

edit: outside of the bible, of course.

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy [op] -1 points 3 weeksApr 6, 2025 15:42:57 ago (+0/-1)

All of which assumes American society is legitimate. It of course is not. It needs to be razed. Maybe literally.

[ - ] HelenHighwater 0 points 3 weeksApr 6, 2025 15:46:55 ago (+0/-0)

"Society is bad, so I can justify being shit to businesses and and individuals". "No one should own anything, so I can take whatever I want, because my intentions aren't the same". Non Sequitur much?

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy [op] 0 points 3 weeksApr 6, 2025 15:48:31 ago (+0/-0)

Businesses? Are you kidding? You and I are not even in the same ballpark here!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegalism

[ - ] HelenHighwater 0 points 3 weeksApr 6, 2025 15:57:05 ago (+0/-0)

illegalism and anarchism can only exist when there an a host to leech off of. Moral ambiguity is not a cause and achieves no end.

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy [op] 0 points 3 weeksApr 6, 2025 16:04:10 ago (+0/-0)*

There is no moral ambiguity here. To be on the side of society, this society, to favor things that prop it up, is immoral. Full stop.

Leeching off present society is textbook guerrilla tactics. So is taking only what you need. The point is to use the system against itself on the road to replacing it with something better.

It is also very important to actually live one's values. What we see on this forum is overwhelmingly bourgeois normies meanposting on the internet. It lacks authenticity. It's just bullshit and killing time.

[ - ] HelenHighwater 0 points 3 weeksApr 6, 2025 16:31:22 ago (+0/-0)

anarchism lacks the organization to effect change, it ushers in an even stronger police state to solve the infringement on societal rules.

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy [op] 0 points 3 weeksApr 6, 2025 17:03:14 ago (+0/-0)*

I dunno where you get that. That has never happened.

Anarchism ranges from things like Slab City which has existed as a functioning community for decades to revolutionary Catalonia - which got crushed by the military and foreign governments. Also, just primitive tribes. Some pre-contact that have existed for thousands of years.

It also exists in the form of various cooperative enterprises. Like banks.

Granted, my project is massively more ambitious than any of that.

[ - ] HatefulHomelessMan 1 point 3 weeksApr 6, 2025 16:28:24 ago (+1/-0)

As someone who has been homeless since March 2022, I can confirm that there are all different sorts of homeless people. The people you see on the streets everyday, just laying around, digging through trash cans, begging on street corners, sitting 1 block away from the courthouse/police station passed out with a needle in their arm, those are just a small fraction of the homeless in America.

No one really knows the full extent of the homeless population in America, because most "couch surf" or live in their vehicle, or with their parents rent-free. Personally, I have never begged, I don't dig through trash cans, I work 2 part-time jobs, sleep in the back seat of my Ford SUV, and in the past 3 years the most "help" from the government I have gotten was $21 food stamps/month which was cancled since my official income is just across the threshold of "poverty" and that threshold has not budged an inch alongside BIDENFLATION, so I pay cash for pretty much everything.

All the rentals within an 80 mile radius of my hometown are still 200%-500% the price they were in 2018. So, I spend all the cash I would have spent on rent and utilities on guns, ammo, tools, and bomb-making materials (which are all 100% legal prior to being put together) that I store in hermetically-sealed containers and hide buried deep in the forest. WWIII is only ever right around the corner, and someone needs to make our domestic enemies fearful, so that will be my purpose when the jews go full-retard and begin to exterminate my people in earnest, rather than simply poisoning their air, food, water, medicine, and childrens' minds.

Many of the beggars people drive past actually have a home or apartment, usually paid for by the taxpayer through Social Security/welfare. Most of them spend the money given to them by fools on food, drugs, or other luxuries.

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy [op] -1 points 3 weeksApr 6, 2025 16:47:08 ago (+0/-1)

Nice post overall.

I'll just add a few points.

1) I am a hardened revolutionary. Being homeless is part of the revolutionary lifestyle. I'm like a new Marx or Lenin (Russian intel have told me I'm more Lenin than I am Hitler) Except my anti-capitalist revolution is going to actually work and be sustainable.

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/thefucknsucksociety/

https://www.upgoat.net/viewpost?postid=65b550170ebc0

2) There are basically three kinds of homeless - as I think you pretty much alluded to. The first are hardcore homeless. No car. The second have a car. The third are what are called the 'hidden homeless'. They live in dwellings but often don't have their names on the lease or whatever. This third option can best fit Vonu ideology, at least in urban environments. More on Vonu here:

https://books.google.com/books/about/Vonu.html?id=HVURxgEACAAJ&source=kp_book_description

https://books.google.com/books/about/Vonu.html?id=x6MLvgEACAAJ&source=kp_book_description

Both of these short books should be read.

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy [op] 0 points 3 weeksApr 6, 2025 15:18:21 ago (+0/-0)

And of course the OP gets downvoted in 28 seconds or less...

Eat shit feds. You'll be out here soon enough.

https://www.npr.org/2024/04/11/1243982287/fbi-agents-housing-costs

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy [op] 0 points 3 weeksApr 6, 2025 15:32:58 ago (+0/-0)

I've seen some data that indicates the homeless may be mentally ill to the tune of 2/3. Though percentages vary, and it obviously gets included and conflated with substance abuse and other dependency issues. The housed are estimated at 13-15% from what I've seen.

Whatever the case it is more about being functional I'd say. And this is a crazy society - with an unsustainable lifestyle and a threatening skynet. It isn't homeless people bringing us to the abyss of nuclear war.