John 3:16 ¶ For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should >not perish, but have everlasting life.
"But even so, Christians are called to have a special kind of love for fellow Christians. Listen to what Jesus says:
34“I give you a new command: Love one another. Just as I have loved you, you must also love one another. 35By this all people will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.” John 13:34-35 _____________________________________ _________________________________
Thanky you, Dos. I know this might seem a very strange place to "break bread" with fellow Believers, but this is where the world has driven us. It's our refuge. We are not perfect, and we stumble a lot. but nothing can ever convince me that you are not what you represent. A Christian who struggles and finds a home in this place. This is as mushy as I will get. God truly bless you. He knows your heart and you are a quite alright. Your heart is in the right place. Thank you for being here.
Isn't it wonderful this Good Friday? Thank you for the kind greeting, the first thing my eyes saw when I came here.
Always remember the jews didnt want Him to be their king. And they push regicide to the limit to this day, as their wicked ritual to kill those who God place in our world as guides to His path.
No, Jesus was not crucified before Passover. Jesus was crucified on the day of preparation, the day BEFORE the official Passover celebration. The Passover meal was eaten on the evening of the preparation day, after Jesus's crucifixion.
Reminder that Jesus did not come to die for our “sins” but to free us from this realm of (((Yahweh))) the chief archon. That is why his jewish minions had the Romans murder him.
Constantine and his council of Nicaea(Jesuits) corrupted and changed the Bible to lie about the truth of the true god. It’s why the early Christians after the Vatican informed were not allowed to read the Bible, but instead have priests read it for them . They have you worship Yahweh as the father of Christ, how evil is that?! And that quote Jesus was talking of was his unknowable father in Pleroma.
Translation: John the jew 3:16 ¶ For jewGod so loved the jews of the world, that he gave his only misbegotten son, that whosoever believeth in him should be happy as a tax slave on a freerange goyim farm for the benefit of jews and niggers.
so was jesus the son of god, or god incarnate? When and where did the holy spirit come from? Is that too a "god" in the jewish monotheistic pantheon? If Thor was the son of Odin and Jesus is the son of Yaweh how is that not polytheistic?
jesus is both. is the eternal son of God. the second member of the trinity and he became incarnate as fully human and God in the person of jesus christ. he was born of a virgin thus another why he is the son of God
The Trinity is a foundational doctrine in Christianity that explains the nature of God as one being in three distinct persons: the Father, the Son (Jesus Christ), and the Holy Spirit. This means that while there is only one God, He exists in three persons who are co-equal and co-eternal, each fully God yet distinct from one another. The concept emphasizes that these three persons have unique roles but share the same divine essence, which distinguishes Christianity from other monotheistic religions. Although the term "Trinity" is not found in the Bible, the truth of this doctrine is supported by various biblical passages.
The concept of the Trinity a lovely 'Christian interpretation' that provokes thorough reflection, especially on perspective.
However, the more any religion tries to focus on any 'non-fundamental aspects' of God, the more they lose the crowd.. I'm just saying when we try to apply a rigid doctrine to anything where our understanding is limited, we're bound to 'not exactly get it right'. T
There's nothing wrong to admit that there are things we don't understand about the nature of God. But when these things blatantly spit on our logic, then it's time to question their validity. Muslims also suffer from this mindset, they have developed a term called "Bila Kayf". What exactly stops Christians from taking the non-Trinitarian redpill like many towering figures before and saving themselves the headache?
What exactly stops Christians from taking the non-Trinitarian redpill like many towering figures before
Sound exegesis for one.
There are verses in the Bible that necessitate the Trinity. Heretic religions usually resort to changing the text of the Bible in order to try to evade the Trinity. It's too ingrained in the text. Even non-Trinitarian versions of the Bible retain enough text to point to the necessity of the Trinity.
But when these things blatantly spit on our logic
I believe what you are trying to express is that you find certain concepts counter-intuitive, and as a result you feel that they don't fit. That's not an argument from logic (logos), that's an argument from feeling (pathos).
It is possible to make compelling pathos arguments. I'm not suggesting you can't make that. I just don't yet understand what your argument is in this case.
Just because you don't have all the answers isn't a reason to denigrate a religious holiday..
Jesus was a manifestation of "Something". We can't be specific, we don't have concepts or ideas to reflect the answer. You're gonna get colored interpretations.
You don't believe in a God? Fine. It's not a requirement. You got free will and physics guiding your boat. Its a gift.
You want some answers or comfort? Seek. Even after you denigrate Christ, He will embrace you once you repent your error.
You're not smarter than everyone who believes in a higher power just because you recognize the cannibalized evolution of what we call religion.
Jesus was a lying jew. His followers were lying jews. Mary, mother of jesus, was a slut and her husband joseph was a jewish cuckold.
The entire religion was built on jewish foundations and meant to be used as a way to keep slaves toiling themselves to death in squallor and misery with the lie of a blissful afterlife. Not much has changed in 2000 years.
The god of the old testament is a lesser god that jews and muslims worship. That lesser god created this realm to trap fragments of THE God above gods in the form of souls in man. The King of kings. Our soul comes from the God above this god's realm. Yaldebeoth or Yahweh can't see the light, he doesn't understand it fundamentally for it is outside of him. This is where statements like "thou shall have no other god before me" comes from. The lesser god thinks it sits at the top of the universal throne, but he is mistaken.
If you believe your flesh body contains a soul, that's all it takes to make it to heaven, eventually. There's a way to get there sooner during the death walk, but that's for only the most devout believers.
Hahaha, it's supported by the truth. The bible is a jewish fabrication. There are no ancient hebrew historians.
The bible is full of lie, after lie, that puts jews on a pedestal. It was all by design.
Jews used the profound truth of this existence(you posses a soul that comes directly from the God of gods) and weaponized it against the goyim.
Catholics believe you can't get to God without worshipping Jesus. That couldn't be farther from what that man was preaching at the time. That is a jewish fabrication.
Jesus wants you to walk in his steps, and follow him in his teachings. Which state, you are a child of god, there is no separation between you and God.
The gospel of Mary was removed because it speaks of these things. The gospel of mary shall set you free.
If all you can do is mouth breathe and say "nuh uh" the bible don't say that. You can't be brought to the truth.
I can tell you that it doesn't really matter though. Because at the end of "time" light collapses in on the darkness from both sides and the infinite God becomes whole again. So carry on with your jewish beliefs if you must. It doesn't matter in the end.
I came to these conclusions before finding the gospel of Mary btw.
I've also had two death visions during NDE's that showed me the truth. So my faith comes from my own experiences, and my own personal visions sent to me from God himself.
My faith does not waiver, it does not bend a knee. The truth shall set you free. You are the temple that holds the most profound thing in the universe, a sliver of the divine.
Make up your mind, do you want to talk exegesis based on Biblical scripture / Christian doctrine? Or do you want to present a case that dismisses the authority of Biblical canon?
Catholics believe you can't get to God without worshipping Jesus.
Technically not true. Some exceptions exist (unborn babies, etc).
The bible is full of lie, after lie, that puts jews on a pedestal
Unless you try to present what you consider to be an inconsistency, your comment is baseless.
Jesus wants you to walk in his steps, and follow him in his teachings.
Yes. There is a verse that makes that explicit.
Which state, you are a child of god, there is no separation between you and God.
Insofar as you earnestly strive in that walk, yes.
The gospel of Mary was removed because it speaks of these things. The gospel of mary shall set you free.
It's not canon. I'll give anything a read though.
If all you can do is mouth breathe and say "nuh uh" the bible don't say that. You can't be brought to the truth.
There is a difference between the Bible being silent on an issue and the Bible explicitly expressing a position contrary to a proposal.
Catholic doctrine also extends beyond the Bible itself and includes things like the sinlessness of Mary.
I've also had two death visions during NDE's that showed me the truth. So my faith comes from my own experiences, and my own personal visions sent to me from God himself.
You've piqued my interest. I've had my own share of visions and messages. One thing I've noticed in my own journey is the humility to appreciate that I may not be understanding the visions and messages correctly if I am not approaching them from the right frame of mind. What were your visions about?
My faith does not waiver, it does not bend a knee. The truth shall set you free. You are the temple that holds the most profound thing in the universe, a sliver of the divine.
I have nothing to hide, and the truth shall set you free.
When I was a pre-teen I was dying from a vehicle accident with internal injuries, I was bleeding out internally. I laid on deaths door for 3 days, then my red blood cell count began to recover, slowly.
In the depths of my battle with death Jesus himself came to me, the message he gave was crystal clear. The message: He was the light, I am the light, We are the light. He made it very clear we were of the same exact light.
Time goes on, I start doing drugs in my late teens early twenties (acid, shrooms, dmt) convince myself it was probably a hallucination...
About a decade ago I had another vehicle accident, multiple compound fractures, bleeding out externally this time. During the blood transfusion of 3 units to save my life I had another vision.
I was teleported to the grassy hill with a beaten path, my hands were grazing the top of the tall grass as I walked towards the light. This light was outside of myself, and it was pulling me in against my will. Once I realized I had lost all free will in that moment I came back into my body.
I have two engineering degrees, and went at this with logic, and reason, here are my conclusions and engineered solution.
You have 3 options when you die, if you are teleported to the grassy plain with the light on the hill (many people see this in NDE's)
1. Go into the light, this is the reincarnation trap set up by the false god of the jews to trap the fragments of the light from God in a perpetual material existence. The false god of this realm does not understand the light, and believes there is no God above him. Texts name him Yaldebeoth, or Yahweh...
2. Turn your back to the light and become a wandering spirit until the end of time. (Ancient beliefs declare if you turn your back to the light in this moment "all secrets will be revealed") Logically this is what that means.
3. You find the light within yourself, and go into that light that your soul originates from. This is the way to get to God before the end of time. The light within yourself is the true life, as it originates from the God of gods, the King of kings. The God that sits at the infinite throne above all.
So my beliefs are within me, and personally, I could care less what the modern translations of retarded Hebrews has to say. What I know makes logical sense in this fucked up reality, explains the jews actions entirely, and explains why they hate christians so much.
Let me expound on that.
The truth is that this entire material existence is trapped between the fragments of God that make our souls and the infinite God above this material universe. So, at the end of time the light collapses in on the "darkness"(this universe) and God becomes whole again. The jews are paranoid of this singularity, so the entire christian religion was co-opted by the jews to control the real gnosis that had come to light within the people of the time.
They literally fear this eventuality, and believe they can circumvent this eventuality by snuffing out modern christians, and the teachings of Jesus.
To me, this isn't up for interpretation, try as you will, I don't care what you say at all. I mean this with all sincerity. My message is coming from as close as directly from God as I believe possible. I was shown these things and given this intellect for a reason.
I've also been shown in multiple different dreams that time doesn't exist at all like we think it does. I'm a seer, I dream future events regularly. Sometimes decades in the future, that make absolutely no sense at the time of the dream. I'm shown things, thanks to God.
Since I was a child all I asked god for was the truth, wisdom, and knowledge, it hasn't come easy my friend. I have been closer to death than most, twice, and I'm here to tell you the truth.
I think the biggest hurdle in your understanding is that you haven't read the Bible thoroughly, and perhaps are basing some of your judgements on hearsay about Bible and doctrine instead of the Bible and doctrine themselves.
That can come across like a shot fired, but in truth I say that because I was guilty about that at one point. I completely missed the mark on what the Bible actually said and what Catholic doctrine actually said because I had assumed detractors were giving an honest representation of it. They weren't.
He was the light, I am the light, We are the light. He made it very clear we were of the same exact light.
Body of Christ. What you are describing in this point isn't necessarily at odds with Catholic doctrine.
I have two engineering degrees, and went at this with logic, and reason, here are my conclusions and engineered solution.
That's good, it should mean you have the appropriate depth of intelligence to read different theological works and see where they are coming from.
I hope you earnestly strive to fulfil the duty of your gifts.
reincarnation trap set up by the false god of the jews
The god depicted in the Talmud is not consistent with Yahweh of the Bible.
fragments of God that make our souls
This premise conflicts with Catholic doctrine. Specifically, Catholic doctrine proposes that God created the universe ex nihilo and not as portions of His own substance. Spontaneous creation requiring no prerequisite substance. You could reconcile your perspective by stating that the "light" was the first energies of creation. The closest thing, but not the same substance as God. That is to say, the first light where the Word of God touched creation and brought it into existence. Christ in the flesh took on the nature of the created world. Fully God, fully man, and would then reasonably share in that substance of the first light despite also having a nature distinct from it.
To expand on the whole "not of the substance of God" bit, if I take an object and cast a shadow from it, the shadow shares in the image of the object, but not the substance.
I don't care what you say at all.
My premise isn't to invalidate your experiences. I never found it helpful when people tried to gainsay mine for some kind of ideological gain. I'm merely trying to show you that the thing you may be rejecting isn't necessarily incompatible with your experiences.
I'm a seer, I dream future events regularly. Sometimes decades in the future, that make absolutely no sense at the time of the dream. I'm shown things, thanks to God.
Precognition / premonition, I had (and by God's grace, assume still have?) those gifts as well, seemingly if for no other reason than for God to show His glory and ability to shape reality to His will.
If I didn't know any better, I would have guessed that you were some random user that scanned through my old voat comments and decided to create a narrative to mock my old comments. I'll park that defensiveness and concede that you've just had common experiences and a common outlook as an older version of myself by coincidence.
I don't expect my words here to suddenly change you, but I sense that God may be working on you to see the truth of the Catholic faith (even if plenty of disappointing Catholics exist).
You're paranoid, I don't know you from Jim. I grew up in a church, I know the jewish bible cover to cover my friend.
I came to all of these conclusions completely on my own, removed from anything.. Then I started researching ancient beliefs, and they line up almost perfectly with God's model he provided to me.
I'm a son of God, here to tell you the truth. I'm not here to argue, I'm here to tell you the truth. The same reason Jesus only told the real truth to a small amount of his closest followers, because people like you can't handle the truth.
And you should just listen to the gospel of Mary, there's a translation on youtube. They claim it's not cannon, and written later, because they're terrified of the message. Let me debunk that with logic.
The gospel of Mary was found in Egypt with an older Greek version in fragments. The Greek used in that fragment is ancient Greek. Going back to at least 300 BCE. They biblical scholars can't let go of their power over their congregations, so they said, "it has to be a new creation".. The reason it was found with the ancient Greek text is obvious to anyone with a brain.
It was found like that because the person that transcribed it wanted whoever that found it to realize it came from an older source text. You can't just blatantly say "it's a later creation" when it's literally found with fragments of ancient greek. It's incredible cognitive dissonance.
The gospel of Mary, after she's asked what Jesus told her in confidence, because he loved her more than any of his other followers, she says almost exactly what I concluded by my own interactions directly with Jesus Christ himself.
I could say i'm THE son of God. But that's not accurate, I'm a son of God, here with his message. It doesn't matter whether you believe it to be true.
You need to change your thoughts, I don't need to change mine friend..
Both. Consider the fact that you are a son of a man while simultaneously being a man. Christ is the Son of the Father, but is also God by substance/being. Jesus is consubstantial with the Father. Begotten, not made.
When and where did the holy spirit come from
When? Eternal. Uncreated.
Where? He proceeds from the Father and the Son.
monotheistic pantheon
Those terms are contradictory. The Trinity is not a pantheon. God is three persons in one being.
The Father is Yahweh. The Son is Yahweh. The Holy Spirit is Yahweh.
But the Father is not the Son, and each are not the Holy Spirit.
Consider examples in fallible creatures. If you had multiple personality disorder, each of those personalities are still "you". The person-to-being ratio is not always one to one.
Thor was the son of Odin and Jesus is the son of Yaweh how is that not polytheistic
Thor and Odin are not one being. Thor and Odin are also created beings. They are more akin to angels or demons than an All-God such as Yahweh.
If I recall correctly from Norse mythology, instead of an All-God, everything was created from chaos.
That bible quote was written in a place and time where all the niggers were still in africa. If the people who wrote that lived in a multi-cultural society it would have stated: "thou shalt love thy fellow jew" Christianity is just judaism-lite with bacon and shellfish.
He hung around with 12 guys. If you think he was straight, you're deluded. Fucking other guys, especially younger ones, was considering normal back then
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34“I give you a new command: Love one another. Just as I have loved you, you must also love one another. 35By this all people will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.” John 13:34-35
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Thanky you, Dos. I know this might seem a very strange place to "break bread" with fellow Believers, but this is where the world has driven us. It's our refuge. We are not perfect, and we stumble a lot. but nothing can ever convince me that you are not what you represent. A Christian who struggles and finds a home in this place. This is as mushy as I will get. God truly bless you. He knows your heart and you are a quite alright. Your heart is in the right place. Thank you for being here.
Isn't it wonderful this Good Friday? Thank you for the kind greeting, the first thing my eyes saw when I came here.
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'Eggs out for Jesus'.
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Iesus Nazarenus, Rex Iudaeorum.
Always remember the jews didnt want Him to be their king. And they push regicide to the limit to this day, as their wicked ritual to kill those who God place in our world as guides to His path.
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John the jew 3:16 ¶ For jewGod so loved the jews of the world, that he gave his only misbegotten son, that whosoever believeth in him should be happy as a tax slave on a freerange goyim farm for the benefit of jews and niggers.
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However, the more any religion tries to focus on any 'non-fundamental aspects' of God, the more they lose the crowd.. I'm just saying when we try to apply a rigid doctrine to anything where our understanding is limited, we're bound to 'not exactly get it right'. T
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Sound exegesis for one.
There are verses in the Bible that necessitate the Trinity. Heretic religions usually resort to changing the text of the Bible in order to try to evade the Trinity. It's too ingrained in the text. Even non-Trinitarian versions of the Bible retain enough text to point to the necessity of the Trinity.
I believe what you are trying to express is that you find certain concepts counter-intuitive, and as a result you feel that they don't fit. That's not an argument from logic (logos), that's an argument from feeling (pathos).
It is possible to make compelling pathos arguments. I'm not suggesting you can't make that. I just don't yet understand what your argument is in this case.
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An index finger, a middle finger, and a thumb are each composite components of one thing/entity (a hand).
Your eye is "you", your hand is "you", and your foot is "you".
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Jesus was a manifestation of "Something". We can't be specific, we don't have concepts or ideas to reflect the answer. You're gonna get colored interpretations.
You don't believe in a God? Fine. It's not a requirement. You got free will and physics guiding your boat. Its a gift.
You want some answers or comfort? Seek. Even after you denigrate Christ, He will embrace you once you repent your error.
You're not smarter than everyone who believes in a higher power just because you recognize the cannibalized evolution of what we call religion.
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Yes, it is.
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The entire religion was built on jewish foundations and meant to be used as a way to keep slaves toiling themselves to death in squallor and misery with the lie of a blissful afterlife. Not much has changed in 2000 years.
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edit: I guess people don't like being asked a real question they can't slither around. It's a simple question.
This might point to the fact we're fighting a bunch of vacant soulless vessel's around here.
That would make a lot of sense.
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If you believe your flesh body contains a soul, that's all it takes to make it to heaven, eventually. There's a way to get there sooner during the death walk, but that's for only the most devout believers.
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The bible is full of lie, after lie, that puts jews on a pedestal. It was all by design.
Jews used the profound truth of this existence(you posses a soul that comes directly from the God of gods) and weaponized it against the goyim.
Catholics believe you can't get to God without worshipping Jesus. That couldn't be farther from what that man was preaching at the time. That is a jewish fabrication.
Jesus wants you to walk in his steps, and follow him in his teachings. Which state, you are a child of god, there is no separation between you and God.
The gospel of Mary was removed because it speaks of these things. The gospel of mary shall set you free.
If all you can do is mouth breathe and say "nuh uh" the bible don't say that. You can't be brought to the truth.
I can tell you that it doesn't really matter though. Because at the end of "time" light collapses in on the darkness from both sides and the infinite God becomes whole again. So carry on with your jewish beliefs if you must. It doesn't matter in the end.
I came to these conclusions before finding the gospel of Mary btw.
I've also had two death visions during NDE's that showed me the truth. So my faith comes from my own experiences, and my own personal visions sent to me from God himself.
My faith does not waiver, it does not bend a knee. The truth shall set you free. You are the temple that holds the most profound thing in the universe, a sliver of the divine.
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Technically not true. Some exceptions exist (unborn babies, etc).
Unless you try to present what you consider to be an inconsistency, your comment is baseless.
Yes. There is a verse that makes that explicit.
Insofar as you earnestly strive in that walk, yes.
It's not canon. I'll give anything a read though.
There is a difference between the Bible being silent on an issue and the Bible explicitly expressing a position contrary to a proposal.
Catholic doctrine also extends beyond the Bible itself and includes things like the sinlessness of Mary.
You've piqued my interest. I've had my own share of visions and messages. One thing I've noticed in my own journey is the humility to appreciate that I may not be understanding the visions and messages correctly if I am not approaching them from the right frame of mind. What were your visions about?
May God work through us all.
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When I was a pre-teen I was dying from a vehicle accident with internal injuries, I was bleeding out internally. I laid on deaths door for 3 days, then my red blood cell count began to recover, slowly.
In the depths of my battle with death Jesus himself came to me, the message he gave was crystal clear. The message: He was the light, I am the light, We are the light. He made it very clear we were of the same exact light.
Time goes on, I start doing drugs in my late teens early twenties (acid, shrooms, dmt) convince myself it was probably a hallucination...
About a decade ago I had another vehicle accident, multiple compound fractures, bleeding out externally this time. During the blood transfusion of 3 units to save my life I had another vision.
I was teleported to the grassy hill with a beaten path, my hands were grazing the top of the tall grass as I walked towards the light. This light was outside of myself, and it was pulling me in against my will. Once I realized I had lost all free will in that moment I came back into my body.
I have two engineering degrees, and went at this with logic, and reason, here are my conclusions and engineered solution.
You have 3 options when you die, if you are teleported to the grassy plain with the light on the hill (many people see this in NDE's)
1. Go into the light, this is the reincarnation trap set up by the false god of the jews to trap the fragments of the light from God in a perpetual material existence. The false god of this realm does not understand the light, and believes there is no God above him. Texts name him Yaldebeoth, or Yahweh...
2. Turn your back to the light and become a wandering spirit until the end of time. (Ancient beliefs declare if you turn your back to the light in this moment "all secrets will be revealed") Logically this is what that means.
3. You find the light within yourself, and go into that light that your soul originates from. This is the way to get to God before the end of time. The light within yourself is the true life, as it originates from the God of gods, the King of kings. The God that sits at the infinite throne above all.
So my beliefs are within me, and personally, I could care less what the modern translations of retarded Hebrews has to say. What I know makes logical sense in this fucked up reality, explains the jews actions entirely, and explains why they hate christians so much.
Let me expound on that.
The truth is that this entire material existence is trapped between the fragments of God that make our souls and the infinite God above this material universe. So, at the end of time the light collapses in on the "darkness"(this universe) and God becomes whole again. The jews are paranoid of this singularity, so the entire christian religion was co-opted by the jews to control the real gnosis that had come to light within the people of the time.
They literally fear this eventuality, and believe they can circumvent this eventuality by snuffing out modern christians, and the teachings of Jesus.
To me, this isn't up for interpretation, try as you will, I don't care what you say at all. I mean this with all sincerity. My message is coming from as close as directly from God as I believe possible. I was shown these things and given this intellect for a reason.
I've also been shown in multiple different dreams that time doesn't exist at all like we think it does. I'm a seer, I dream future events regularly. Sometimes decades in the future, that make absolutely no sense at the time of the dream. I'm shown things, thanks to God.
Since I was a child all I asked god for was the truth, wisdom, and knowledge, it hasn't come easy my friend. I have been closer to death than most, twice, and I'm here to tell you the truth.
[ + ] Reunto
[ - ] Reunto 0 points 1 weekApr 20, 2025 05:30:20 ago (+0/-0)
That can come across like a shot fired, but in truth I say that because I was guilty about that at one point. I completely missed the mark on what the Bible actually said and what Catholic doctrine actually said because I had assumed detractors were giving an honest representation of it. They weren't.
Body of Christ. What you are describing in this point isn't necessarily at odds with Catholic doctrine.
That's good, it should mean you have the appropriate depth of intelligence to read different theological works and see where they are coming from.
I hope you earnestly strive to fulfil the duty of your gifts.
The god depicted in the Talmud is not consistent with Yahweh of the Bible.
This premise conflicts with Catholic doctrine. Specifically, Catholic doctrine proposes that God created the universe ex nihilo and not as portions of His own substance. Spontaneous creation requiring no prerequisite substance. You could reconcile your perspective by stating that the "light" was the first energies of creation. The closest thing, but not the same substance as God. That is to say, the first light where the Word of God touched creation and brought it into existence. Christ in the flesh took on the nature of the created world. Fully God, fully man, and would then reasonably share in that substance of the first light despite also having a nature distinct from it.
To expand on the whole "not of the substance of God" bit, if I take an object and cast a shadow from it, the shadow shares in the image of the object, but not the substance.
My premise isn't to invalidate your experiences. I never found it helpful when people tried to gainsay mine for some kind of ideological gain. I'm merely trying to show you that the thing you may be rejecting isn't necessarily incompatible with your experiences.
Precognition / premonition, I had (and by God's grace, assume still have?) those gifts as well, seemingly if for no other reason than for God to show His glory and ability to shape reality to His will.
If I didn't know any better, I would have guessed that you were some random user that scanned through my old voat comments and decided to create a narrative to mock my old comments. I'll park that defensiveness and concede that you've just had common experiences and a common outlook as an older version of myself by coincidence.
I don't expect my words here to suddenly change you, but I sense that God may be working on you to see the truth of the Catholic faith (even if plenty of disappointing Catholics exist).
[ + ] registered_bot
[ - ] registered_bot 0 points 1 weekApr 20, 2025 13:29:31 ago (+0/-0)
I came to all of these conclusions completely on my own, removed from anything.. Then I started researching ancient beliefs, and they line up almost perfectly with God's model he provided to me.
I'm a son of God, here to tell you the truth. I'm not here to argue, I'm here to tell you the truth. The same reason Jesus only told the real truth to a small amount of his closest followers, because people like you can't handle the truth.
[ + ] registered_bot
[ - ] registered_bot 0 points 1 weekApr 20, 2025 13:37:00 ago (+0/-0)
The gospel of Mary was found in Egypt with an older Greek version in fragments. The Greek used in that fragment is ancient Greek. Going back to at least 300 BCE. They biblical scholars can't let go of their power over their congregations, so they said, "it has to be a new creation".. The reason it was found with the ancient Greek text is obvious to anyone with a brain.
It was found like that because the person that transcribed it wanted whoever that found it to realize it came from an older source text. You can't just blatantly say "it's a later creation" when it's literally found with fragments of ancient greek. It's incredible cognitive dissonance.
The gospel of Mary, after she's asked what Jesus told her in confidence, because he loved her more than any of his other followers, she says almost exactly what I concluded by my own interactions directly with Jesus Christ himself.
I could say i'm THE son of God. But that's not accurate, I'm a son of God, here with his message. It doesn't matter whether you believe it to be true.
You need to change your thoughts, I don't need to change mine friend..
[ + ] Reunto
[ - ] Reunto -1 points 1 weekApr 18, 2025 10:10:57 ago (+0/-1)
Both. Consider the fact that you are a son of a man while simultaneously being a man. Christ is the Son of the Father, but is also God by substance/being. Jesus is consubstantial with the Father. Begotten, not made.
When? Eternal. Uncreated.
Where? He proceeds from the Father and the Son.
Those terms are contradictory. The Trinity is not a pantheon. God is three persons in one being.
The Father is Yahweh.
The Son is Yahweh.
The Holy Spirit is Yahweh.
But the Father is not the Son, and each are not the Holy Spirit.
Consider examples in fallible creatures. If you had multiple personality disorder, each of those personalities are still "you". The person-to-being ratio is not always one to one.
Thor and Odin are not one being. Thor and Odin are also created beings. They are more akin to angels or demons than an All-God such as Yahweh.
If I recall correctly from Norse mythology, instead of an All-God, everything was created from chaos.
[ + ] GreatSatan
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[ + ] ShortbusAlcoholic
[ - ] ShortbusAlcoholic 0 points 1 weekApr 18, 2025 15:55:02 ago (+1/-1)
Christianity is just judaism-lite with bacon and shellfish.
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 -1 points 1 weekApr 18, 2025 16:18:59 ago (+0/-1)
So you all the sudden no longer became their child after disobeying, right?
Oh, that's right, that's not how it works and you know this...
You're being disingenuous.
[ + ] Sal_180
[ - ] Sal_180 0 points 1 weekApr 18, 2025 16:44:23 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 -2 points 1 weekApr 18, 2025 16:53:51 ago (+0/-2)
See how easy it is to show you are being disingenuous.
You liberal faggots constantly do this; pretend like you're answering a question that wasn't fucking asked.
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