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What are some examples of times when technology worsened?

submitted by Trope to AskUpgoat 1 weekApr 23, 2025 20:38:49 ago (+22/-0)     (AskUpgoat)

I had posted earlier about MP3’s and having lived through peak technology of music only to watch it degrade. Certainly our era of history is not unique and this sort of commoditization has happened countless times. Manufacturing leaving the United States and designed obsolescence are great examples. What are some lesser known examples?

Copper pipes in air conditioners were not always porous. Old compressors still work.

The original incandescent lightbulbs are still operable.

This website Upgoat works like a traditional forum despite the pervasiveness of social media - and is remarkably better than all social media outlets in every possible way. Amazing how simplicity in design can work so well.


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[ - ] Her0n 19 points 1 weekApr 23, 2025 21:23:45 ago (+19/-0)

"Tech" worsened when it became the norm to not have all diagrams and schematics along with a parts list with cross reference numbers when purchasing machinery.

When companies decided that the customer doesn't have the right to the knowledge to troubleshoot and repair a machine they have supposedly purchased.

[ - ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey -9 points 1 weekApr 23, 2025 21:42:57 ago (+0/-9)

I’m fine taking my John Deere to John Deere. I hate working on stuff and I don’t know how.

[ - ] GetFuckedCunt 12 points 1 weekApr 23, 2025 22:11:05 ago (+13/-1)

You are unwittingly a part of the problem then. John Deere wants all of their customers to have to bring their tractors in and dont want the average person working on it.

Everything needs to pass through the hands of jews or shabbos goys.

[ - ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey -5 points 1 weekApr 23, 2025 22:22:24 ago (+1/-6)

I’ve had it for seven years and haven’t had any trouble with it. I’m happy.
And, I have way more money than time.

[ - ] Reawakened 1 point 1 weekApr 23, 2025 23:39:19 ago (+3/-2)

I've got one that won't keep a belt on it. It's a piece of shit. I would never buy a John Deere anything. John Deere is redneck branding. Nothing more.

[ - ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey -1 points 1 weekApr 24, 2025 00:58:28 ago (+0/-1)

Right, redneck shit. What, is my Ford truck redneck shit too?

[ - ] Reawakened 2 points 6 daysApr 24, 2025 08:34:24 ago (+2/-0)

LOL.... I got two Chevy's. We don't need to go there.

[ - ] Her0n 5 points 6 daysApr 24, 2025 07:20:21 ago (+5/-0)

I understand your sentiment, but my issue lies with companies refusing to give me all the information and ability to maintain equipment I'm supposedly the owner of.

What's the quote?

If you aren't allowed to fix it, you're renting it, not owning it.

[ - ] o0shad0o 4 points 1 weekApr 23, 2025 22:36:57 ago (+4/-0)

You're not going to be happy when they have to replace some of the tech.

Me? I bought a used 410E. We can work on most of that ourselves.

[ - ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey -4 points 1 weekApr 23, 2025 23:32:53 ago (+1/-5)

Meh, it’s just money.

[ - ] JudyStroyer 18 points 1 weekApr 23, 2025 21:37:41 ago (+18/-0)

Making all the systems in newer cars “modules” that are basically unrepairable and intertwined unnecessarily. Requiring their own ecu and a can bus for these faggots to communicate with each other.

[ - ] germ22 10 points 1 weekApr 23, 2025 20:47:58 ago (+10/-0)

Touch screens in cars.

[ - ] Trope [op] 2 points 1 weekApr 23, 2025 20:53:51 ago (+2/-0)

Exactly why I love the urinals at work. You give a nice slap and they flush with good tactile feedback and a good CLICK followed by an UNCLICK.

Pissing is in its peak right now.

[ - ] GetFuckedCunt 1 point 1 weekApr 23, 2025 22:12:27 ago (+1/-0)

Urinals were designed with automatic flush cycles every 15 minutes or so decades ago. No one should be touching a urinal to flush it in the modern age...

They have a simple water tank that slowly fills up and runa the flush cycle and repeats.

[ - ] Tallest_Skil 1 point 1 weekApr 23, 2025 21:04:52 ago (+1/-0)

You mean going to them from physical buttons?

[ - ] Her0n 1 point 1 weekApr 23, 2025 21:25:15 ago (+1/-0)

Don't you know that physical buttons are holy, while softkeys are from SATAN?!

[ - ] Tallest_Skil 3 points 1 weekApr 23, 2025 22:30:23 ago (+3/-0)

There are plenty of use cases in which physical buttons are infinitely better than a touchscreen. “Can’t look at where you’re touching” is the primary one, and that’s basically being in a car. The software that handles car commands has to be at least as good–or better–than physical controls if you’re replacing them, otherwise you’re objectively making things worse.

CarPlay is close, but the car manufacturers are purposely preventing it from allowing the user to access everything in the car with just his voice.

[ - ] Her0n 1 point 6 daysApr 24, 2025 07:18:23 ago (+1/-0)

I agree, but not to the same extreme.

I'm not really responding to your statement, just clarifying what I meant since my point seems to have been lost.

[ - ] RedBarchetta 9 points 1 weekApr 23, 2025 22:00:41 ago (+9/-0)

the iphone/android phone. Society went downhill.

[ - ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey 8 points 1 weekApr 23, 2025 21:41:18 ago (+8/-0)

Everything they come out with requires more and more of my time to navigate, henceforth I recoil from most of it. Don’t even have a smartphone.

[ - ] Storefront 7 points 1 weekApr 23, 2025 23:59:46 ago (+7/-0)

One of the things that ruined tech is the stock market and the incessant need of tech companies to create monthly subscription income to raise their stock prices. Photoshop and MS Word were vastly superior when you could pay $99 once for a lifetime license to this highly advanced software and keep it forever, now everything you create disappears if you don't keep paying their monthly ransom in perpetuity.

[ - ] Trope [op] 3 points 1 weekApr 24, 2025 01:03:04 ago (+3/-0)

There is software out there I would happily pay for once. Photoshop being a perfect example. But a monthly subscription? Not a dang chance.

[ - ] i_scream_trucks 7 points 1 weekApr 23, 2025 23:02:26 ago (+7/-0)

The first couple of years of the internet were great.

Then suddenly it wasnt 'nerdy' any more.

Then the fucking kids showed up....

[ - ] bohmoonx 6 points 1 weekApr 23, 2025 22:33:24 ago (+6/-0)

What the fuck is with "libraries" instead of just finding you shit in a file structure on a harddrive? I'm still fucking around trying to keep my stuff off the cloud.

[ - ] Cantaloupe 6 points 1 weekApr 23, 2025 21:36:00 ago (+6/-0)

Windows

Not only tech, but people have gotten dumber. Reaction times are slowing

[ - ] VitaminSieg 1 point 6 daysApr 24, 2025 10:10:01 ago (+1/-0)

Doublepain?

[ - ] Jinglebanger 0 points 6 daysApr 24, 2025 11:49:28 ago (+0/-0)

On the consumer side, they have been progressively dumbing Windows down so that your typical retard/boomer can't do something that fucks up his computer. Ironically, this has made it more time consuming and generally difficult to fix computers when they do fuck up.

On the business side, they constantly try to reinvent the wheel to "improve" what used to be a fairly simple process of building a functioning enterprise network, which again, ironically has resulted in more of an IT workload.

Windows 7/Server 2003 is about when they really started fucking everything up.

[ - ] qwop 5 points 6 daysApr 24, 2025 01:55:36 ago (+5/-0)

The pattern seems to be most of the time the initial tech is great because it's pure engineers trying to solve a genuine real-world problem.

Then once the innovation is made, in comes a cavalry of leeches; first marketing, sales, then later bureaucrats, and finally politicians.

And so the original product and innovation turns to shit because it's no longer there to only solve the original problem, but now has to support the leech industrial complex instead.

[ - ] Cantaloupe 0 points 6 daysApr 24, 2025 10:12:21 ago (+0/-0)

Bean counters

[ - ] Zyklonbeekeeper 5 points 1 weekApr 23, 2025 22:58:13 ago (+5/-0)

In short, I hate most everything and much of everybody but technology turned against us pretty much around when the auto industry began phasing out the carburetor....gone were the days of the standard 2 barrel Edelbrock, 4 barrel quadrajet and 6pack Holley, fuel injection relegated the
hobby mechanic to basic front end and drive-line repair...fuck I used to know the firing order for Chev 350s, Ford 360s and 351 Cleveland, yanking out a distributor to replace points and condensers was routine but electronic ignition changed all that...today it requires $50k for computerized equipment and software to troubleshoot the many glitches that sensors, switches, solenoids and modules are prone to...but I remember one time we had a Genie Elevated work platform snuff out and the mechanic had to be flown in from Ottawa but it was a shutdown that we were on and the schedule was tight and the Genie was right in the middle of the molten iron spill area, I was told that I had 36hrs to get that machine out and all 65' of boom was extended into the blast furnace structure, FUCK, it was brand knew and I was looking at backcharges of $80k per hr for as long as production was impeded...I was told by the
dealer that there was no way of bypassing the electronics to make it work and a technician was a week away...all eyes are on me and my company, between my mechanic and I we bypassed, reconfigured and rerouted circuits, sensors and proximity switches, in 10hrs we had it packed up and out...one guy came up to me and said "I knew you could do it" and that he made $1,500.00 on bets with a few guys who thought I was fucked...another guy came to me and said "if anyone can do it was you(me)"...but for the most part it was my German mechanic that was the key element there...but technology has us hostage.

[ - ] Anotherone 0 points 6 daysApr 24, 2025 08:31:19 ago (+0/-0)

I do inspections on those lifts. Since the beginning they have a manual release to lower the platform, and a wheel lock disconnect so they can be loaded on trailers.

The idea of changing switches and relays to get it functioning is quite misleading. The only switch or sensor is the one inside the boom as a safety for the boom position as it is stowed or extended.

Lower controls are manually engaged with the DC pump, added when you do this it cuts that boom position sensor off as well.

[ - ] Zyklonbeekeeper 0 points 6 daysApr 24, 2025 17:23:54 ago (+0/-0)

Oh I'm well aware of the manual override system but that only works to lower personnel to the ground...this was an articulating boom that was configured in different angles at full extension...I should have explained that the initial problem started when one of my cranes was working along side of the lift and there was a bl8nd corner quadrant that the operator was slewing to and the signalman gave him the all clear to keep rotating but the counterweight slammed into the lift and struck the control panel and the circuit board is what got fucked...many functions route simultaneously through solenoids and if one solenoid is not activating then it may interrupt the circuit flow to another required solenoid that initiates a desired function, there's solenoids that are tied into multiple functions and if circuit flow is cut to one then the problem snowballs, the other solenoids don't get power...to make it really complicated the boom was poked into the structural steel under articulate mode so that boom was not coming straight down...we got the unit packed up but still had to pull it out of the area with a 988Cat because the travel mode was damaged. Did I make it a bit more understandable?

[ - ] i_scream_trucks 0 points 6 daysApr 24, 2025 22:24:53 ago (+0/-0)

Youre not wrong. Manually lowering it is only possible when there is nothing directly straight down below the bucket or boom. Otherwise it ends up lowering down through exactly what it was brought in specifically to need to get around!

H

[ - ] RollinDaGrassTyson 4 points 1 weekApr 24, 2025 00:18:07 ago (+4/-0)

Intel CPUs adopting hardware level rootkits (Management Engine) back in 2008. Well, technically chipset on the board, but still.

The last Intel CPUs that aren't kiked rolled off the fabs before then.

AMD CPUs followed suit with their own hardware level rootkit (Platform "Security" Processor) in 2013. Even less is known about this black box.

Neither can effectively be removed or disabled. There are projects which purport to do so, but admit in their docs that it doesn't work 100%.

Basically, if you use x86 family processors made after 2013 (or 2008 for Intel), then it is impossible to have a computer for which you can ascertain that you are the true owner and the only one to whom your computer takes commands from.

These hardware rootkits are nearly ubiquitous in 2025 because almost nobody knows about them, nor do they understand the dangers they present. You cannot avoid what you don't know about.

ARM processors are also equally cucked with ARM "Trust"zone hardware rootkits. TPTB do not want plebeians to have full control over their own devices.

[ - ] Trope [op] 1 point 1 weekApr 24, 2025 01:01:59 ago (+1/-0)

Damn, that’s gay.

My favorite computer was built in 2008 using a nice Intel Core 2 Duo. After that, I was done building computers.

[ - ] Doglegwarrior 3 points 1 weekApr 24, 2025 00:07:58 ago (+3/-0)

Moon landing... some how from the last trip to the moon.. the super men of the time the ones with computers the size of building... materials that were well subpar in every way compared to modern materials... those super men had the technology to go back to the moon 6 times with out losing a soul...

Now we can't go no matter how hard we try we just don't have the technology they did in the late 60s and early 70s we even lost the telemtry data...

Ohhh wait the 3 body problem makes it impossible to hit a moving target when 3 bodies are involved but they had the black female janitor back then to do the impossible math.

Anyways I'm just a conspiracy theorist I believe what ever the jew education system tells me

[ - ] Crackinjokes 1 point 6 daysApr 24, 2025 21:31:22 ago (+1/-0)

Everything after the rotary phone


I'm actually sort of not even kidding either. The truth is when you had a landline rotary phone you had to wait and schedule a call with somebody you had to wait to hear them call you had to make an appointment with people and so people kept their appointments because you didn't have a cell phone to tell them you weren't going to be there or you were going to be late or you were going to do something instead.

Having mobile phones absolutely destroyed people's willingness to make and keep appointments and give each other courtesy in that regard.

And rotary because let's face it that clicking sound was just cool

[ - ] Anus_Expander 2 points 6 daysApr 24, 2025 06:06:01 ago (+2/-0)

Cars and appliances have turned to utter shit. I will keep fixin my 2004 Astro van til I die.

[ - ] Master_B 2 points 6 daysApr 24, 2025 01:28:48 ago (+2/-0)

My second hand Nokia 3270 classic, ip-rated, great camera, once a week charge..
Now we have these 6.9 inch, 0,5 kg, covid-pass enabled, ((airtag)) enabled, always on pieces of shit. Impossible to root etc.

40 year old tractors are great and still in demand.

When I was young, there was an internetforum where people found their wife/husband. Now we're stuck with jewbook/jewapp.

[ - ] Master_B 1 point 6 daysApr 24, 2025 01:31:12 ago (+1/-0)

And of course, cars with telemetrics!
((Video doorbells))

[ - ] albatrosv15 2 points 1 weekApr 23, 2025 23:24:03 ago (+2/-0)

When people started buying cheap faulty chinese shit instead of european stuff. Things from china break, people buy again while things made in germany still work.

Everything depends on the quality of biology. Technology follows biology.

[ - ] puremadness 1 point 6 daysApr 24, 2025 01:37:53 ago (+1/-0)

when youtube got commercials
when google bought youtube
when microsoft bought minecraft
when metallica sued napster
I got pretty miffed when we stopped using the long metal rod to physically disengage power supply on button press in tower PCs, those initial soft-press fuckers sucked when you needed a hard af reboot.

[ - ] Crackinjokes 0 points 6 daysApr 24, 2025 21:36:29 ago (+0/-0)

Everything after newsgroups.

Or before reddit went to subreddits and moderators.

Yahoogroups were good too. So they wiped out all the evidence.

[ - ] Crackinjokes 0 points 6 daysApr 24, 2025 21:32:48 ago (+0/-0)

Well I got to say the original old pure HTML is still the snappiest and best website that you can visit and you can throw a tiny bit of JavaScript in there and still make it good and you can throw in some Pearl and it can still be snappy and flow fast but quite frankly everything after that just cluttered up websites made them extremely slow making them data vacuuming machines and now most websites just suck.

[ - ] Sector2 0 points 6 daysApr 24, 2025 12:40:07 ago (+0/-0)

When we jumped from electricity to electronics. That is the slippery slope we've been sliding down.

[ - ] Anotherone 0 points 6 daysApr 24, 2025 08:33:48 ago (+0/-0)

Early access mobile internet. For a time it seemed that internet was going to be garbage on mobile.

Also how few mobile handsets there are to choose from now. Early 2000s they had so many more choices, and innovative than today.

[ - ] Thyhorrorcosmic103 0 points 6 daysApr 24, 2025 03:39:15 ago (+0/-0)

any thing hipoint.

[ - ] Indoctrinated_USA 0 points 6 daysApr 24, 2025 03:20:50 ago (+0/-0)

2010-present

[ - ] Master_Foo 0 points 1 weekApr 23, 2025 22:22:57 ago (+4/-4)*

The word you are looking for is "dark age".

Christ-Cucks hate talking about the "Middle Dark Age", so look into the "Late Bronze Age Collapse" if you want to have a conversation that doesn't trigger the NPCs.

We are currently living in a dark age, as most of our information is stored digitally.
When the next crisis hits, most of that information will be erased to history, just like so many Greek and Roman scientific manuscripts erased and written over by Christian monks so they could write a prayer.