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[ - ] boekanier -1 points 1 monthApr 29, 2025 04:37:22 ago (+0/-1)

Alright, believe in who or what you want, everyone must decide for themselves how to achieve their eternal salvation. But let everyone decide that for themselves and do not force your God on others.

[ - ] Love240 [op] 2 points 1 monthApr 29, 2025 04:45:16 ago (+2/-0)

everyone must decide for themselves how to achieve their eternal salvation.

There is only one way to eternal salvation, and that is to believe in Jesus, which is the point this video very clearly elucidates and backs up with scripture.

Christians do not 'force' God on another.
We can't.
Belief is from the heart.

So the saying goes;
A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.

Those who try to force someone are not doing so of God's will.

An example of that is Catholicism, which is not Christian.

[ - ] Zyklonbeekeeper 0 points 1 monthApr 29, 2025 08:25:14 ago (+0/-0)

What it means depends upon how many times one can afford to be played for a sucker, especially after a severe beating because one tried to be a good Samaritan...and got ambushed by a herd of niggers.

[ - ] Love240 [op] 0 points 1 monthApr 29, 2025 14:17:54 ago (+0/-0)

Niggers aren't men, they're beasts of the field.

[ - ] AugustineOfHippo2 0 points 1 monthApr 29, 2025 19:10:14 ago (+1/-1)

He contradicted himself when he quoted Jesus “ unless you DO the will of the Father”. Faith alone is unbiblical.

[ - ] Love240 [op] 0 points 1 monthApr 30, 2025 00:00:10 ago (+0/-0)

He contradicted himself when he quoted Jesus “ unless you DO the will of the Father”. Faith alone is unbiblical.

Please quote the chapter and verse for your incorrect claim, please.

Now, we've already been through this, so I'll keep it short.

What is the will of the Father?

And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. - John 6:40

So how are we saved? By believing the Gospel of Jesus Christ, that he came to free us from sin. (Romans 6:18)

You are in serious need of counseling of God's Word; you are in ignorance.

Repent and believe on Jesus Christ alone for salvation from sin and death.

[ - ] AugustineOfHippo2 0 points 1 monthApr 30, 2025 14:05:40 ago (+0/-0)

It was in YOUR video. But since you don’t read your bible:

Matthew 7:21, which is reiterated in Matthew 7:24

You must DO something. Faith alone does not get you into heaven.

Read you bible, heretic.

[ - ] Love240 [op] 0 points 1 monthApr 30, 2025 16:25:07 ago (+0/-0)*

You must DO something. Faith alone does not get you into heaven.

This is false according to the scriptures.

But since you don’t read your bible:

Uh...

Matthew 7:21, which is reiterated in Matthew 7:24

It is clear that YOU are not profited by reading your Bible in unbelief, because you do not comprehend what these passages are saying, being without the Holy Spirit for guidance and understanding.

Matthew 7:21 speaks of people like Catholics, who trust in their own works, those of the traditions of men.

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

This is exactly like the self-righteous Catholics who go around in dresses thinking they've exercised demons after saying 1000 "Hail Mary's" and counting their beads.

You must DO something.

Yes, you must believe the Gospel that is given of our Lord Jesus Christ, that he came to free us from sin and death by faith in HIM, not in our works, like attending church or giving to the poor.

(relevant comment in response to iSnark: https://www.voat.xyz/viewpost?postid=68107dece9355&commentid=6811a1e10ea57
& relevant post from this morning: https://www.voat.xyz/viewpost?postid=6811f8bf0be5a)

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

These are those who do not profess the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ, which is salvation by faith through grace alone.

Their working of iniquity is in not doing the work of God, which is;

28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
- John 6

On to Matthew 7:24;

24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:

As demonstrated from the Bible, the Word of God, To hear these saying and do them is to believe on the Gospel of Jesus Christ for the salvation from sin and death.

As well, believers see that we are the spiritual house upon the rock; Jesus is the rock, we are the house.

Just as it is written in 1 Peter 2:5-8;

5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.

Because of your unbelief, you are confounded at the Gospel of Christ.

7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,
8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.

It is you who are the disobedient, not believing on the report

1 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the Lord revealed?
2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.
8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.
10 Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.
11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
- Isaiah 53

The Lord does not change, the Old Testment prophets testify to God's consistent character and message.

I repeat;

Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

Trusting in your good works is spitting in the face of the Lord Jesus Christ.

You are saying his sacrifice isn't good enough.

That 'Your good works are equal to his sacrifice'.

They are not.

You are trash.

We are all trash.

These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. - 1 John 5:13

And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life. - 1 John 5:20

The Lord Jesus Christ IS eternal life, and if you do not have him, you do not have eternal life.

You do not have Jesus because you do not believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ, the Word of God, that was given to us that we may KNOW that we may have eternal life, and instead you trust in your own good works.

I always come with the scripture to back up the Gospel; You do not because you (be)live the lie.

Repent and believe on the Gospel of Jesus Christ, that is, grace through faith in God's promises, that he sent his son to be born of a virgin to complete all of the works of the law to satisfy the law and take away our sin and give us eternal life, by being IN him in belief.

[ - ] AugustineOfHippo2 0 points 1 monthApr 30, 2025 16:49:04 ago (+0/-0)

The wall of text only shows you are frantically waving your hands and trying to distract because you know, deep down, you are wrong. Faith without works is dead. Nothing more needs to be said on the topic.

[ - ] Love240 [op] 0 points 1 monthApr 30, 2025 16:52:29 ago (+0/-0)

It's not a 'wall of text', it is very well formatted.

You cower because you have no argument.

You are wrong and it is leading you directly to hell.

I don't want you to burn in hell. God doesn't want you to burn in hell, please;

Repent and believe in Jesus Christ alone for salvation from sin and death.

[ - ] AugustineOfHippo2 0 points 1 monthApr 30, 2025 20:17:41 ago (+0/-0)

I have reviewed your argument and found it lacking. Your argument does not match what is in the bible, and you are clearly wrong.
I have defended the one true faith and will continue to do so, your attempts at bullying me are wasted.

[ - ] Love240 [op] 0 points 1 monthApr 30, 2025 20:34:58 ago (+0/-0)

I have reviewed your argument and found it lacking. Your argument does not match what is in the bible, and you are clearly wrong.

Then your reading comprehension is what is lacking.

Notice how you have no argument.

I have defended the one true faith and will continue to do

You haven't defended it at all. You've just repeated the same tired lines without any Biblical backing.

so, your attempts at bullying me are wasted.

How is this bullying? It's the Word of God, and you're just hiding from it in error with no defense.

Repent and believe on Jesus Christ alone for salvation from sin and death.

[ - ] iSnark 0 points 1 monthApr 29, 2025 23:47:35 ago (+0/-0)

Sadly @Love240, you get it wrong again!

[ - ] Love240 [op] 0 points 1 monthApr 29, 2025 23:49:13 ago (+0/-0)

That's not a refutation.

Explain why you trust in a sinner (yourself) instead of Jesus.

[ - ] iSnark 0 points 1 monthApr 29, 2025 23:57:22 ago (+0/-0)

Why do you think that I trust in myself over Jesus? Why do you deny the Catholic Church, the Church that Christ instituted here on Earth? Why do you not understand that "Faith WITHOUT works is dead.

[ - ] Love240 [op] 0 points 1 monthApr 30, 2025 00:06:57 ago (+0/-0)

Why do you think that I trust in myself over Jesus? Why do you deny the Catholic Church

Because you believe in yourself to keep works.

This is very simple, iSnark.

Why do you not understand that "Faith WITHOUT works is dead.

The problem with you quoting this is that you assume faith without works is not saving faith, yet they are still one and the same.

Let's take a look at Romans 4 for example;
2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.
3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.

So we see that Abraham's faith is what is counted for righteousness.

Continuing...
4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.
5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

So faith without works but believing on Jesus, who justifies the ungodly, is what is counted for rightousness.

Continuing...
6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,
7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.
8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

And so for the 3rd time in a row, we see that faith without works is saving faith.

Circling back around; You are trusting in YOUR WORKS instead of in Jesus for your salvation.