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Society is the process of solving prisoner's dilemmas

submitted by FuckShitJesus to whatever 8 hoursMay 1, 2025 07:02:03 ago (+8/-0)     (whatever)

When you don't punish defectors, you get more defectors, and the cooperators feel like suckers so they start to defect.

When everyone is a criminal, no one is a criminal.


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[ - ] doginventer 2 points 8 hoursMay 1, 2025 07:39:03 ago (+2/-0)

Defector:

someone who leaves a country, political party, etc., especially in order to join an opposing one:

-She was one of many Communist Party defectors.

-There was no way to know whether the defectors would fight for the opposition.

DEFECTOR | English meaning - Cambridge Dictionary
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/defector

I would use the term transgressor/trespasser/debtor of the Holy Law, rather than defector, to describe the dilemma that I think you are referring to.

[ - ] drstrangergov 0 points 6 hoursMay 1, 2025 09:16:04 ago (+0/-0)

the truth is self-reinforcing

[ - ] FuckShitJesus [op] -1 points 7 hoursMay 1, 2025 08:05:35 ago (+0/-1)

What is the holy law you refer to

[ - ] doginventer 0 points 6 hoursMay 1, 2025 08:47:43 ago (+0/-0)

The commandments of God, the testimony of Jesus Christ.

[ - ] FuckShitJesus [op] 0 points 6 hoursMay 1, 2025 09:11:52 ago (+0/-0)

Oh, right. I stopped believing in Santa Claus when I was a kid - you should probably consider growing up at some point, too. Fairy tales and make believe invisible magical sky wizards are for kids, dude.

[ - ] Cantaloupe 0 points 5 hoursMay 1, 2025 10:06:05 ago (+0/-0)*

And switched to the idea people are just randomly occurring organic robots, aka things.

That's the philosophy of psychopaths, it's in part why Jeffery Dahmer ate people-things.

All based upon the unprovable? That's how society goes wrong.

And most people don't really believe that people are just things.

[ - ] FuckShitJesus [op] 0 points 4 hoursMay 1, 2025 11:45:33 ago (+0/-0)

Belief is akin to imagination, dude. Nothing wrong with it. I'm super spiritual because I believe we can't prove shit, so I definitely believe there are things we don't understand. The belief in a magical invisible sky wizard is a choice, though - no different than santa claus or any other fairy tale.

You can believe things, but you really can't expert to force others to believe them also.

Unless you're in a cult, I guess.

[ - ] BushChuck5002 0 points 7 hoursMay 1, 2025 07:52:03 ago (+0/-0)

Correct.

Prisoner's Dilemma is meant to demonstrate the systemic collapse of social systems.

We are in free-fall.

[ - ] FuckShitJesus [op] 1 point 7 hoursMay 1, 2025 08:05:14 ago (+1/-0)

We are in free-fall.

Rome was always going to fall again.

[ - ] drstrangergov 0 points 6 hoursMay 1, 2025 09:14:37 ago (+0/-0)

yes.

[ - ] xmasskull 0 points 1 hourMay 1, 2025 14:02:28 ago (+0/-0)

Good solid logic! Well Done!