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[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 15 hoursMay 16, 2025 13:40:49 ago (+0/-0)

Confirmed
Pope Leo XIV’s maternal grandfather, Joseph Martínez, was a Haitian-born cigar maker who was classified as Black in the 1900 census. His wife, Louise Baquié, a native of New Orleans, descended from a blend of African, French, and Spanish ancestry — hallmarks of the city’s vibrant and historically rich Afro-Creole community.

This pope is “vibrant” . His dad was french and italian.

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy [op] 0 points 14 hoursMay 16, 2025 13:49:43 ago (+0/-0)

He's also part Cuban. Which means, in my mind, that he may or may not be mestizo. Jury's still out.

https://www.upgoat.net/viewpost?postid=681fb05b2fd84

He's a guy where the race as a social construct narrative looms large. He doesn't look black and he doesn't have the lived experience of anything but a white guy. Being minimally Cuban can also mean little non-white admixture and possibly no Indian. Cubans are some of the whitest of Latin Americans - but they are rarely truly white either.

He may have other suspect ancestry too. A lot of it is 'Spanish'. On both sides. Stay tuned.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 13 hoursMay 16, 2025 15:36:54 ago (+0/-0)

Mestizo just means mixed. The article I read said “creole’ which is what they call it in La. Grandfather is unlikely to be full nigg.

Being minimally Cuban can also mean little non-white admixture

~80% south european on average. Cubans are the whitest people in the carribbean.

I think his dad was straight white ( if you count italian as white).

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy [op] 0 points 14 hoursMay 16, 2025 13:55:15 ago (+0/-0)

"The Americans will have to decide whether they want a white America or whether they want to make the choice of their President ever more a question of additional concessions toward mulattoisation. In the latter case, the United States of America, in a few centuries, will go the way of Greece and Rome; and the Catholic Church, which even today has black bishops, will be the pacemaker." - Rosenberg from his memoirs in 1946

https://www.upgoat.net/viewpost?postid=68080b3e40703&commentid=68080bfad5cd2

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy [op] 0 points 14 hoursMay 16, 2025 14:00:20 ago (+0/-0)

Will add that Prevost's recent statements on refugees/immigrants featured in this thread, but not abortion, are virtually identical to the views of Congregationalist and Methodist female ministers I have attended services of in the last few months. The Methodist is also a dyke. The Congregationalist is of course the United Church of Christ, which I may attend again this Sunday, and her parishioners are, I'd estimate, 1/3 LGBTQ or however many letters it is now.

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy [op] 0 points 14 hoursMay 16, 2025 14:14:09 ago (+0/-0)*

Pope Leo XIV

https://ethnicelebs.com/pope-leo-xiv

This fails to note the 'Spanish' on his paternal side.

Robert Francis Prevost. The nigger pope. How quaint.