Putin’s war has “woken the giant.” NATO - Upgoat

Putin’s war has “woken the giant.” NATO
submitted by paul_neri to Ukraine 5 hoursMay 19, 2025 07:08:38 ago (+1/-1) (www.msn.com)
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/trump-losing-patience-with-putin-says-finnish-president/ar-AA1F2pZl?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=LCTS&cvid=f2c197b4d5744ea58d0188b1d149865c&ei=31

...Russia, portraying it as a declining power: “It’s smaller than Italy economically,

[ - ] FreeinTX 2 points 5 hoursMay 19, 2025 07:12:32 ago (+2/-0)

Lol. NATO is a paper tiger. They are no more capable of beating Russia in Ukraine than Ukraine is. We gonna start a nuclear war to insist NATO be allowed on Russia's border in the south?

[ + ] Crackinjokes

[ - ] Crackinjokes 1 point 3 hoursMay 19, 2025 09:18:11 ago (+1/-0)

Jews control nato. It is now become just another shell for Jewish influence in the world under the guise of something else. Putin has caused the split in the supporter of Jews though so they're having to figure out how to realign their power structure without Trump just rubber stamping everything they want.

[ + ] paul_neri

[ - ] paul_neri [op] 0 points 5 hoursMay 19, 2025 07:15:14 ago (+0/-0)

Ok but things are looking grim for the Ukraine (and Europe) as Putin will apparently be giving the finger to Trump's peace plan.

[ + ] FreeinTX

[ - ] FreeinTX 3 points 5 hoursMay 19, 2025 07:28:23 ago (+3/-0)

Russia made 4 demands the night before they incurred into the bdonbass.

1. No NATO membership for Ukraine.
2. No EU membership for Ukraine.
3. AZOV disbanded and prosecuted for crimes.
4. Donbass is independent until they vote on joining Russia.

These are the demands today. These demands are not going to change. And, Ukraine will continue to lose parts of their country until they agree to these demands. Trump isn't the decider on the Russian border. And never will be.

[ + ] Sal_180

[ - ] Sal_180 0 points 4 hoursMay 19, 2025 08:41:05 ago (+0/-0)

Thank god for Russia bring peace to the area by killing everyone

[ + ] FreeinTX

[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 4 hoursMay 19, 2025 09:01:32 ago (+0/-0)

This would all stop if Ukraine would agree to the inevitable. Sorry. Ukraine is NEVER going to be a part of NATO.

[ + ] Sal_180

[ - ] Sal_180 0 points 3 hoursMay 19, 2025 09:25:41 ago (+0/-0)

No it wouldn't, Russia would move further into Ukraine. No one trusts Russia for good reason.

[ + ] FreeinTX

[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 3 hoursMay 19, 2025 09:59:19 ago (+0/-0)

That would be easily proven by just agreeing to the terms. A refusal is just an indication of their intentions. It isn't going to work.

[ + ] Sal_180

[ - ] Sal_180 0 points 2 hoursMay 19, 2025 10:17:42 ago (+0/-0)

Considering the promised not too invade before they took crimea, then promised not to invade after that and invaded again, you'd want to be a dipshit trust them again.

But then again, you think this is about "nato" and "azov", so you're not living in the real world

[ + ] FreeinTX

[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 1 hourMay 19, 2025 11:39:13 ago (+0/-0)

Then, all Ukraine has to do to prove that would be to agree to never join NATO and start arresting AZOV war criminals, which they should do anyway, right? A war crime is a war crime, regardless of who is killed by the war crime, right?

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