I think it has unspoken premises you don't seem to agree with. His thesis is that the least knowledgeable speak the loudest, which I accept with the caveat that those who know so little that they know they know nothing are usually silent. On a scale of 1-100, for example, where x is actual knowledge and y is your certainty in your conclusions, for x=0 to x=10, y = 0. But for x=11 to x=30, y rises logarithmically to 100. It's only when you know 31% or so of what there is to know on a subject that y begins to fall, and doesn't rise again until x is over, say, 50. I don't have a graphing program handy to visualize that for you, but hopefully you can get the idea. You can plug those in as sin/cos/รพ to a graphing calculator(/app) if you want to see it yourself.
In any case, his point is that "book is always right" brainlets would never have any chance of understanding the non-deterministic concept of sentience they're arguing for -- or even that they're arguing for it, in the case of Calvinists. Conversely, the well-educated believer has so many doubts about our understanding of the physical underpinnings of our material existence, that the existence of a "soul" seems more probable.
But if you dont reject physical determinism, and you think that any choice someone makes can be described and predetermined by the way observable atoms and particles are arranged and moved (culminating in neurochemistry, in this case,) then none of that argument is relevant. He's operating on the principles that A: free will exists and B: our models of our physical reality do not adequately provide for a mechanism for free will to exist. I gather you don't quite recognize one or both of those premises, thus his argument sounds like a hot mess to you. I think both are plausible, thus I understand his argument even though I think there are other conclusions besides "intelligent creator figure."
BMN003 0 points 4 hours ago
I think it has unspoken premises you don't seem to agree with. His thesis is that the least knowledgeable speak the loudest, which I accept with the caveat that those who know so little that they know they know nothing are usually silent. On a scale of 1-100, for example, where x is actual knowledge and y is your certainty in your conclusions, for x=0 to x=10, y = 0. But for x=11 to x=30, y rises logarithmically to 100. It's only when you know 31% or so of what there is to know on a subject that y begins to fall, and doesn't rise again until x is over, say, 50. I don't have a graphing program handy to visualize that for you, but hopefully you can get the idea. You can plug those in as sin/cos/รพ to a graphing calculator(/app) if you want to see it yourself.
In any case, his point is that "book is always right" brainlets would never have any chance of understanding the non-deterministic concept of sentience they're arguing for -- or even that they're arguing for it, in the case of Calvinists. Conversely, the well-educated believer has so many doubts about our understanding of the physical underpinnings of our material existence, that the existence of a "soul" seems more probable.
But if you dont reject physical determinism, and you think that any choice someone makes can be described and predetermined by the way observable atoms and particles are arranged and moved (culminating in neurochemistry, in this case,) then none of that argument is relevant. He's operating on the principles that A: free will exists and B: our models of our physical reality do not adequately provide for a mechanism for free will to exist.
I gather you don't quite recognize one or both of those premises, thus his argument sounds like a hot mess to you. I think both are plausible, thus I understand his argument even though I think there are other conclusions besides "intelligent creator figure."