First off, everything started with 'rainmaking', and the technique was first discovered in the 1940s (shocker) by a certain Bernard Vonnegut, brother of scifi novelist Kurt Vonnegut, who frequently wrote about 'weather machines' and similar that his brother developed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Vonnegut
Now, before we continue, I will mention that I cant find any of my earlier cites, including the ones that place everything about a decade earlier (in the 1930s) - jews have been interested in controlling the weather since the 1800s - they would shoot blanks out of cannons at the sky too see if it would make it rain (look it up). Irving Langmuir or Bernard Vonnegut were the first to come up with something there, but I simply can't find the name of the guys who came first. Anyway,
Weather modification has been a thing ever since. They immediately caused a massive snowfall in PA (citation is 'Eli Goldston, Legal Implications for the Rain-maker' which doesn't exist anymore), a handful of floods, and started messing with hurricanes off of the coast (one of which strengthened,headed into Georgia, and killed one).
Apparently weather changed a lot in the 1950s, and the GE/military team took a lot of credit for that work publicly (with one ground-based generator in New Mexico apparently leading to changes across the entire continent). These claims of responsibility were starting to cause backlash, much as the whistleblowers in the CIA were. In 1952, there were muzzled behind a (((Naval Intelligence))) review team, and never allowed to speak publicly again, which also happens to be when the NSA was created to help compartmentalize the CIA. Ever since then, the new (((Naval Intelligence))) group claimed cloud seeding techniques failed in every test they conducted thereafter.http://www.colby.edu/sts/04_fleming_fixing.pdf
Also, they admitted using it in the Vietnam war. Also, I saved some screens of radar off the coast from the last bad hurricane season - they were definitely seeded. Seeding produces a stationary 'flash' of precipitation in the cloud - if too strong, it obliterates itself, leading to a visibly obvious 'puffing', until it 'catches'. EDIT: Can't find the videos - they were collected from a chan thread about the hurricanes. The source for the description I gave is Vonnegut himself.
Finally, this is old technology - I think I have an idea of what their latest advancement is (it was originally part 2 of my 'nobody knows why planes fly' paper), and you can actually fuck with this using drones if you like. According the Government Acct Office, you simply burn acetone with silver iodide particles in it (though the advanced techniques would require a powerful radar - though they don't talk about that): https://www.gao.gov/assets/b-100063.pdf
Oh man, I had stuff to do. I really didn't want to get wrapped up in this. Just know that there are tons more to this subject, both history and research, though I've been wanting to 'democratize' this for many years.
None of what you said would convince an open-minded person, you just spout off non-sense.
The post is well cited - anyone of non-nigger intellect would find it convincing. Shame about your intellect, though.
the big boogeyman creating hurricanes is hearsay.
Yeah, literally from Irving Langmuir's mouth, which is cited in the second link, and then they later claimed to have extended the Monsoon season during the Vietnam war by months during Operation Popeye.
I'll spoonfeed you:
this is Wiki on the creation of the hurricane that made landfall in Georgia in October of 1947, which Langmuir took credit for, and is now publicly admitted to be Project Cirrus: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Stormfury
Operation Popeye was a military cloud-seeding project to extend the monsoon season over specific areas of the Ho Chi Minh Trail Project Stormfury was an attempt to weaken tropical cyclones by flying aircraft into them and seeding with silver iodide ... researchers found that unseeded hurricanes often undergo the same structural changes that were expected from seeded hurricanes.
Like I said, cloud seeding. The rest is bullshit.
Cue the endless reply chain of ad hominem's, walls of text and dragging feet for proof of your original claims until the replies stop showing without clicking "more". Do you really think you're the first one to use this tactic?
>> Cloud seeding is one thing, the big boogeyman creating hurricanes is hearsay. > [Cites provided from mainstream sources] Like I said, cloud seeding. The rest is bullshit.
You've acknowledged I was right, but in a way that superficially reads as if you were right. Nice. This is classic God-of-the-Gaps fallacy, now known as moving-the-goalposts.
There was no 'rest' - they have been in the business of fucking with the weather for 70 years at a minimum, and dumping shit into the atmosphere is how they do it. 'Seeding' as a term is niche and refers to dumping things that nucleate rain.
If you saw the Project Cirrus portion (NOT Project Stormfury - it just is on that Wiki page) and the sections thereafter on hurricanes, you will see they also dumped a jet-black finely atomized powder, which was not intended to seed raindrops, thus wasn't cloud seeding.
Weather 'round here seems to have shifted. Our weather pattern is starting to resemble that of north west of here...and south east is getting the weather we usually get. I used to photograph and keep track of chemtrails, but its just a constant now, there is no point.
Ive not noticed similar. Making it rain on demand is entirely within human ability. Making it rain on demand each week without fail is something I couldnt say. I suppose its possible. Especially if given the right environmental conditions.
As I understand it there are two methods. You can seed clouds some kind of salt, it makes the cloud heavier to lower the cloud or make it rain. Secondly you can seed a cloud with aluminum (not exactly aluminum but something similar) then use a radar or some sort of heat wave (think microwave oven with bigger wave length) to hear up and therefore raise the cloud. As far as I know that is it. The sun had some effect on the whole system and there is no getting around that. This means that you can make small and immediate alterations with great effort, but it's still a mystery on the macro level.
As far as I know, which I never deeply researched, so it's unconfirmed knowledge, the tech was invented in the late 1960s, early 1970s and the inventor made to disappear.
The tech itself was described as fairly easy to setup even as a normal dude, which the inventor was.
So yeah, the tech to make it rain or make rain disperse should/could exist, but it's likely to be more beneficial to have it stay hidden.
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[ - ] aleleopathic 7 points 4.0 yearsJul 6, 2021 13:21:50 ago (+7/-0)
Fuck yeah, shitloads.
First off, everything started with 'rainmaking', and the technique was first discovered in the 1940s (shocker) by a certain Bernard Vonnegut, brother of scifi novelist Kurt Vonnegut, who frequently wrote about 'weather machines' and similar that his brother developed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Vonnegut
Now, before we continue, I will mention that I cant find any of my earlier cites, including the ones that place everything about a decade earlier (in the 1930s) - jews have been interested in controlling the weather since the 1800s - they would shoot blanks out of cannons at the sky too see if it would make it rain (look it up). Irving Langmuir or Bernard Vonnegut were the first to come up with something there, but I simply can't find the name of the guys who came first. Anyway,
Weather modification has been a thing ever since. They immediately caused a massive snowfall in PA (citation is 'Eli Goldston, Legal Implications for the Rain-maker' which doesn't exist anymore), a handful of floods, and started messing with hurricanes off of the coast (one of which strengthened,headed into Georgia, and killed one).
Apparently weather changed a lot in the 1950s, and the GE/military team took a lot of credit for that work publicly (with one ground-based generator in New Mexico apparently leading to changes across the entire continent). These claims of responsibility were starting to cause backlash, much as the whistleblowers in the CIA were. In 1952, there were muzzled behind a (((Naval Intelligence))) review team, and never allowed to speak publicly again, which also happens to be when the NSA was created to help compartmentalize the CIA. Ever since then, the new (((Naval Intelligence))) group claimed cloud seeding techniques failed in every test they conducted thereafter. http://www.colby.edu/sts/04_fleming_fixing.pdf
Also, they admitted using it in the Vietnam war. Also, I saved some screens of radar off the coast from the last bad hurricane season - they were definitely seeded. Seeding produces a stationary 'flash' of precipitation in the cloud - if too strong, it obliterates itself, leading to a visibly obvious 'puffing', until it 'catches'. EDIT: Can't find the videos - they were collected from a chan thread about the hurricanes. The source for the description I gave is Vonnegut himself.
Finally, this is old technology - I think I have an idea of what their latest advancement is (it was originally part 2 of my 'nobody knows why planes fly' paper), and you can actually fuck with this using drones if you like. According the Government Acct Office, you simply burn acetone with silver iodide particles in it (though the advanced techniques would require a powerful radar - though they don't talk about that): https://www.gao.gov/assets/b-100063.pdf
Oh man, I had stuff to do. I really didn't want to get wrapped up in this. Just know that there are tons more to this subject, both history and research, though I've been wanting to 'democratize' this for many years.
[ + ] mikenigger
[ - ] mikenigger 0 points 4.0 yearsJul 6, 2021 15:48:42 ago (+1/-1)
Cloud seeding is one thing, the big boogeyman creating hurricanes is hearsay.
This is the equivalent of flat earthers proving themselves right, what are the odds no one involved with this theory is an actual meteorologist?
[ + ] aleleopathic
[ - ] aleleopathic 5 points 4.0 yearsJul 6, 2021 16:10:15 ago (+5/-0)
The post is well cited - anyone of non-nigger intellect would find it convincing. Shame about your intellect, though.
Yeah, literally from Irving Langmuir's mouth, which is cited in the second link, and then they later claimed to have extended the Monsoon season during the Vietnam war by months during Operation Popeye.
I'll spoonfeed you:
this is Wiki on the creation of the hurricane that made landfall in Georgia in October of 1947, which Langmuir took credit for, and is now publicly admitted to be Project Cirrus: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Stormfury
and this one on the Vietnam War and monsoons: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Popeye
Before we started coddling morons, people like you didn't make it until adulthood.
[ + ] mikenigger
[ - ] mikenigger -1 points 4.0 yearsJul 6, 2021 17:48:11 ago (+0/-1)*
Project Stormfury was an attempt to weaken tropical cyclones by flying aircraft into them and seeding with silver iodide ... researchers found that unseeded hurricanes often undergo the same structural changes that were expected from seeded hurricanes.
Like I said, cloud seeding. The rest is bullshit.
Cue the endless reply chain of ad hominem's, walls of text and dragging feet for proof of your original claims until the replies stop showing without clicking "more". Do you really think you're the first one to use this tactic?
[ + ] aleleopathic
[ - ] aleleopathic 2 points 4.0 yearsJul 6, 2021 19:13:31 ago (+2/-0)
> [Cites provided from mainstream sources]
Like I said, cloud seeding. The rest is bullshit.
You've acknowledged I was right, but in a way that superficially reads as if you were right. Nice. This is classic God-of-the-Gaps fallacy, now known as moving-the-goalposts.
There was no 'rest' - they have been in the business of fucking with the weather for 70 years at a minimum, and dumping shit into the atmosphere is how they do it. 'Seeding' as a term is niche and refers to dumping things that nucleate rain.
If you saw the Project Cirrus portion (NOT Project Stormfury - it just is on that Wiki page) and the sections thereafter on hurricanes, you will see they also dumped a jet-black finely atomized powder, which was not intended to seed raindrops, thus wasn't cloud seeding.
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Weather 'round here seems to have shifted. Our weather pattern is starting to resemble that of north west of here...and south east is getting the weather we usually get. I used to photograph and keep track of chemtrails, but its just a constant now, there is no point.
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[ - ] Jiggggg 2 points 4.0 yearsJul 6, 2021 12:03:13 ago (+2/-0)
https://m.youtube.com/user/WeatherWar101
Here's a good video to start with:
https://youtu.be/4h1Zwv4cis8
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Making it rain on demand each week without fail is something I couldnt say. I suppose its possible. Especially if given the right environmental conditions.
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The tech itself was described as fairly easy to setup even as a normal dude, which the inventor was.
So yeah, the tech to make it rain or make rain disperse should/could exist, but it's likely to be more beneficial to have it stay hidden.
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