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WTF? Moderna and Pfizer destroyed the clinical trial control group. They decided to give the controls the actual vaccine. We have no controls left, except all you niggerfaggots in here.

submitted by qwop to Controlavirus 3.7 yearsAug 7, 2021 02:50:40 ago (+38/-0)     (theconservativetreehouse.com)

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/08/06/this-is-nuts-moderna-and-pfizer-intentionally-lost-the-clinical-trial-control-group-testing-vaccine-efficacy-and-safety/



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[ - ] SithEmpire 9 points 3.7 yearsAug 7, 2021 03:06:27 ago (+9/-0)

Dipshits, all of them.

The "right thing to do" is to keep the control group strictly clean, potentially letting them all die to a virus, because the consequences of giving a faulty medical product to the rest of humanity would be even more severe.

 Without kikery existing.

[ - ] Monica 5 points 3.7 yearsAug 7, 2021 08:28:45 ago (+5/-0)

CO² = P ᵪ S ᵪ E ᵪ C

P = Population

Bill Gates says they want one of those numbers as close to zero as they can get it. In the video, when he says that, the slide on the big screen has the [P] highlighted. He jokes and laughs with the crowd as he tells them how he wants them all dead.

Innovating to zero! | Bill Gates:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaF-fq2Zn7I

[ - ] account deleted by user 3 points 3.7 yearsAug 7, 2021 11:21:21 ago (+3/-0)

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[ - ] chrimony 3 points 3.7 yearsAug 7, 2021 09:10:11 ago (+3/-0)

It's not unusual for studies to break control groups if the data shows the treatment is effective. You have to weight the risk of getting enough data versus allowing harm to come to the control group by not giving treatment. In this case, the control group was broken after the initial study was done, the vaccine determined effective, and emergency use authorized. The downside is that long-term studies on the control group is lost.

[ - ] Flabbygasted 3 points 3.7 yearsAug 7, 2021 09:28:45 ago (+3/-0)

Except it's not effective

[ - ] goat777 5 points 3.7 yearsAug 7, 2021 11:09:36 ago (+5/-0)

Literally does not do the specific function claimed that enabled its emergency use authorization.

[ - ] Flabbygasted 1 point 3.7 yearsAug 7, 2021 12:00:18 ago (+1/-0)

Yep, especially for the 20k+ its killed.

[ - ] chrimony 1 point 3.7 yearsAug 7, 2021 15:36:03 ago (+1/-0)

Believe what you want. The official data says it's effective.

[ - ] Flabbygasted 0 points 3.7 yearsAug 7, 2021 15:47:50 ago (+0/-0)

Official data says 12,000 dead because of it. I guess it depends what your definition of effective is. Israeli news also claiming 90% of serious infections are vaccinated.

If it's so effective, why are the vaccinated worried about the unvaccinated then?

[ - ] chrimony 1 point 3.7 yearsAug 7, 2021 17:49:21 ago (+1/-0)

Official data says 12,000 dead because of it.

For some reason they reduced that to 6,000. Regardless, even if we go with the higher number, that's out of hundreds of millions of doses, and just because a death happened shortly after the vaccine, given the number of vaccinations given, by chance some small percentage will die out of coincidence. Adverse conditions that happen shortly after a vaccine are supposed to be reported regardless if any causal link is established.

By comparison, officially there were over 260,000 deaths due to Covid in 2021

Israeli news also claiming 90% of serious infections are vaccinated.

US news is claiming that 99% of Covid deaths now are among the unvaccinated. I can't square these numbers with Israel's. Anyways, there's lots of bullshit going around. All I can say is that by official numbers, the vaccine is considered "effective".

[ - ] Flabbygasted 0 points 3.7 yearsAug 7, 2021 19:56:06 ago (+0/-0)

Between the amount of adverse effects happening (tens of thousands of cases), the most deaths of any vaccine, and the fact that the vaccinated are getting infected at high rates makes your statements of efficacy laughable.

[ - ] chrimony 0 points 3.7 yearsAug 7, 2021 20:32:38 ago (+0/-0)

I offered a nuanced reply that looked at all the facts, including ones you gave, and acknowledged where there are discrepancies. You offered a shitcanned reply that just repeated what you already said. Go fuck yourself.

[ - ] Flabbygasted 0 points 3.7 yearsAug 7, 2021 22:45:16 ago (+0/-0)*

I repeated myself because you're retarded... I figured a second time might be clearer to you.

Didnt the CDC director just come out and say that the vaccine does not prevent transmission. Which clearly implies the vaccinated are getting infected. Y'all can move the goal post as much as you want. The government and anyone that trusts them are retarded.

And I didnt quite repeat myself, dumbass. I added a few extra things like the death rate being higher and adverse effects. Just because your comprehension is lacking, doesnt mean I should have to sodomized myself.

[ - ] chrimony 0 points 3.7 yearsAug 8, 2021 20:08:01 ago (+0/-0)

I repeated myself because you're retarded...

You repeated yourself because YOU are retarded. You can't address opposing points.

[ - ] Flabbygasted 0 points 3.7 yearsAug 8, 2021 20:24:13 ago (+0/-0)

You dont even make sense, i have addressed your opposing points. I'm not disagreeing with you on the amount of vaccinated...I disagree with you on the efficacy. And I've provided my reasoning for disagreeing with you on efficacy. What else do you want from me?
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[ - ] Her0n 2 points 3.7 yearsAug 7, 2021 08:44:35 ago (+3/-1)

Turns out we were the real control group the entire time

[ - ] KikesOnSpikes 2 points 3.7 yearsAug 7, 2021 12:33:36 ago (+2/-0)

Maybe the real control group was the friends we made along the way?

[ - ] Her0n 0 points 3.7 yearsAug 7, 2021 12:44:06 ago (+1/-1)

Definitely

[ - ] Flabbygasted 0 points 3.7 yearsAug 7, 2021 12:02:27 ago (+0/-0)

That's been one excuse I've used to not get it...the experiment needs a control group.

Also (mainly) because I'll never let anyone perform medical experiments on me again.

[ - ] account deleted by user 2 points 3.7 yearsAug 7, 2021 07:59:04 ago (+2/-0)

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[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry 0 points 3.7 yearsAug 7, 2021 15:02:47 ago (+0/-0)

If you're not allowed to question it, it's not science. Peer review is literally having someone question your science.

[ - ] Cynabuns 2 points 3.7 yearsAug 7, 2021 04:06:44 ago (+2/-0)

Clown World

[ - ] 2017Fallout 1 point 3.7 yearsAug 7, 2021 07:13:28 ago (+1/-0)

Convenient

[ - ] account deleted by user -1 points 3.7 yearsAug 7, 2021 08:55:22 ago (+0/-1)

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