This is dumb. Coronaviruses like OC43 that account for SOME colds don’t need a “cure” because they don’t make anyone but the sickest people ill. And they can’t be wiped out because theyre respiratory. Theyve been in the human population for centuries or millenia, and theyve reached a stasis in the human population which balances infectiousness with virulence. The are nearly innocuous.
Covid doesn’t need to be wiped out or totally prevented and it can’t be, frankly. But we need an effective intervention that prevents severe disease in the 30 or 40% of humans that are most susceptible to it and liable to get disabled or killed from it. No rational people are searching for a total cure. They are searching for an intervention —which could be a vaccine or a drug— that will cut the covid mortality down by 80 or 90 percent and which has low risk. A lot of the drugs that have been used for covid work on “cold” coronaviruses too. But its fucking overkill to take hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin for a 48 hour bug. Sars cov 2 will get passed around for a decade or so and will evolve in to a less harmful strain. Until then we need an intervention that will greatly lessen the severe disease and it is a totally practical goal. The drugs that can do it probably already exist.
There does exist very effective treatments for coronaviruses. Only you cannot find them unless you know where to look. They are oxidative therapies. I am talking about hydrogen peroxide, ozone, and chlorine dioxide. These work by oxidizing the spikes on the surface of the virus. All of them work and are extremely effective against covid, or any coronavirus for that matter.
Of course there is no "official" mention of these anywhere, because treatment with something costing pennies is not as profitable as selling expensive designer molecules. But if you look closely you should be able to find studies and much more on all of them.
I grew up with the thinking that if your mucous was yellow or green, it's bacterial, go get an antibiotic, if not, it's viral and you can do nothing, so go to bed (contagious) and push fluids, there was (and is) NO cure for a virus. NO vaccine? I'd say that's also correct.
But thats not true. There are lots of antivirals that will inhibit cold and flu viruses but there’s no point in giving them to healthy people that will get over the virus quicker than the drugs you give them will take to work.
It's what I was taught. It's what I follow. spewing a bunch of gobbledy gook to me that proves nothing AT ALL, isn't going to change that FACT. "antivirals" "inhibit"...sheesh. like you actually KNOW anything about that stuff. AM I Right? You're just going with what you HEARD/read. You actually KNOW nothing. RIght?
I know. Sperg out on some biology one of these days.
Everythinng you know, you’ve heard or read. You didn’t invent discrete math or whatever the fuck you sperg for a living. AM I. RIGHT?
I know more than you here. You would do well to listen to someone more informed than you on the subject instead of what looks like an attempt of the terrifically jewish “You’re not an expert” argument. There are thousands of antiviral drugs and some of them are also antibiotics as well. Doxycycline and azithromycin are antibiotics being used for covid because of their virostatic properties against RNA viruses. Quinolones like hydroxychloroquine inhibiit just about every virus by alkalinizing lysomes to inhibit viral escape. You can absolutely kill a cold or flu virus with these. But why would you?
Some of us do our homework when a bioengineered plague hits town and the medical establishment is the one that created it and is lying about it. Thats when non-retards crack a book. If you sat their like a nigger, thats on you. All the accumulated knowlege of virologists and epidemiologists is at your fingertips. Its rare that I see this sort of slavish libtard response on voat so congrats.
Everything written by that retard is both irreverent and riddled with arbitrary words in capital. I just vote it down, vote something adjacent up and move on.
Perhaps you do. I'm not disputing that. What I"m saying is our "keepers" are NOT interested in telling us the unvarnished truthy. They PREFER to treat us like 12 year olds. They have NO honor, or credibility and MAY be downright EVIL at the root of it, MORE Interested in establishing and maintaining their CAREERS than FINDING and communicating TRUTH. SO, you can't have your cake and eat it too, I don't TRUST them. LOOK at their response (mandates). MY position comes from what I FIND, and what I KNOW. Right or wrong. I don't INSIST everyone choose like I did. THEY do. I was just accusing you of being a cow (herd). with a funny hat probably.
Yeah thats pretty much what you did. I read as much as I can about drugs and virology so that I can spot the lies. Because they can’t censor all the work thats been done on these subjects for the past 50 years and they cant control the content of every research paper and every expert. You should listen to guys like Robert Malone and Geert Vanden Bossche. You should listen to doctors that have been sued or had their licenses revoked for treating covid patients with off patent drugs. You should read some studies on these drugs and their use on covid patients. Learn about some of the immune and infectious mechanisms implicated in severe covid and the strategies that are being used to affect them. The principles behind many of these drugs and treatments have been utilized for decades. Infectious medicine doesn’t change overnight.
We can’t really afford to throw up our hands and declare that all of medical science is lies. Its not. We have to do the homework to be more informed about these fields so that we’re not so easy to fool. If everyone in America put as much time as I have in trying to understand this shit and VERIFY their assertions, we would be in a better position.
Lmao, What a fcking retard. I will ignore any possibility of sound advice because what i was told and taught growing up means i have no control or discernment going forward as an adult (frankly the jury is still out on that one).
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 3.4 yearsNov 22, 2021 18:51:04 ago (+1/-0)
Covid doesn’t need to be wiped out or totally prevented and it can’t be, frankly. But we need an effective intervention that prevents severe disease in the 30 or 40% of humans that are most susceptible to it and liable to get disabled or killed from it. No rational people are searching for a total cure. They are searching for an intervention —which could be a vaccine or a drug— that will cut the covid mortality down by 80 or 90 percent and which has low risk. A lot of the drugs that have been used for covid work on “cold” coronaviruses too. But its fucking overkill to take hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin for a 48 hour bug. Sars cov 2 will get passed around for a decade or so and will evolve in to a less harmful strain. Until then we need an intervention that will greatly lessen the severe disease and it is a totally practical goal. The drugs that can do it probably already exist.
[ + ] qwop
[ - ] qwop [op] 0 points 3.4 yearsNov 23, 2021 10:19:51 ago (+0/-0)*
Of course there is no "official" mention of these anywhere, because treatment with something costing pennies is not as profitable as selling expensive designer molecules. But if you look closely you should be able to find studies and much more on all of them.
[ + ] thebearfromstartrack4
[ - ] thebearfromstartrack4 2 points 3.4 yearsNov 22, 2021 18:07:45 ago (+4/-2)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 5 points 3.4 yearsNov 22, 2021 18:28:03 ago (+5/-0)
[ + ] thebearfromstartrack4
[ - ] thebearfromstartrack4 -2 points 3.4 yearsNov 22, 2021 19:19:36 ago (+0/-2)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 5 points 3.4 yearsNov 22, 2021 19:41:58 ago (+5/-0)
I know. Sperg out on some biology one of these days.
Everythinng you know, you’ve heard or read. You didn’t invent discrete math or whatever the fuck you sperg for a living. AM I. RIGHT?
I know more than you here. You would do well to listen to someone more informed than you on the subject instead of what looks like an attempt of the terrifically jewish “You’re not an expert” argument. There are thousands of antiviral drugs and some of them are also antibiotics as well. Doxycycline and azithromycin are antibiotics being used for covid because of their virostatic properties against RNA viruses. Quinolones like hydroxychloroquine inhibiit just about every virus by alkalinizing lysomes to inhibit viral escape. You can absolutely kill a cold or flu virus with these. But why would you?
Some of us do our homework when a bioengineered plague hits town and the medical establishment is the one that created it and is lying about it. Thats when non-retards crack a book. If you sat their like a nigger, thats on you. All the accumulated knowlege of virologists and epidemiologists is at your fingertips. Its rare that I see this sort of slavish libtard response on voat so congrats.
[ + ] SithEmpire
[ - ] SithEmpire 1 point 3.4 yearsNov 23, 2021 04:54:47 ago (+2/-1)
[ + ] NeonGreen
[ - ] NeonGreen -1 points 3.4 yearsNov 23, 2021 07:37:29 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] thebearfromstartrack4
[ - ] thebearfromstartrack4 -2 points 3.4 yearsNov 23, 2021 17:45:19 ago (+0/-2)
[ + ] NeonGreen
[ - ] NeonGreen 0 points 3.4 yearsNov 23, 2021 07:37:54 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] thebearfromstartrack4
[ - ] thebearfromstartrack4 -1 points 3.4 yearsNov 23, 2021 17:44:32 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 3.4 yearsNov 23, 2021 20:26:13 ago (+0/-0)
Yeah thats pretty much what you did. I read as much as I can about drugs and virology so that I can spot the lies. Because they can’t censor all the work thats been done on these subjects for the past 50 years and they cant control the content of every research paper and every expert. You should listen to guys like Robert Malone and Geert Vanden Bossche. You should listen to doctors that have been sued or had their licenses revoked for treating covid patients with off patent drugs. You should read some studies on these drugs and their use on covid patients. Learn about some of the immune and infectious mechanisms implicated in severe covid and the strategies that are being used to affect them. The principles behind many of these drugs and treatments have been utilized for decades. Infectious medicine doesn’t change overnight.
We can’t really afford to throw up our hands and declare that all of medical science is lies. Its not. We have to do the homework to be more informed about these fields so that we’re not so easy to fool. If everyone in America put as much time as I have in trying to understand this shit and VERIFY their assertions, we would be in a better position.
[ + ] dassar
[ - ] dassar 2 points 3.4 yearsNov 22, 2021 23:34:57 ago (+2/-0)
I will ignore any possibility of sound advice because what i was told and taught growing up means i have no control or discernment going forward as an adult (frankly the jury is still out on that one).
[ + ] thebearfromstartrack4
[ - ] thebearfromstartrack4 -2 points 3.4 yearsNov 23, 2021 17:46:51 ago (+0/-2)
[ + ] dassar
[ - ] dassar -1 points 3.4 yearsNov 24, 2021 06:13:46 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] thebearfromstartrack4
[ - ] thebearfromstartrack4 0 points 3.4 yearsNov 24, 2021 20:28:11 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] dassar
[ - ] dassar 0 points 3.4 yearsNov 25, 2021 04:38:31 ago (+0/-0)