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The mask exemption card is slowly losing its effectiveness. Many places, including doctors are now just shrugging and saying they don't care. You must wear a mask. What do?

submitted by Aze to whatever 3.5 yearsDec 9, 2021 21:12:58 ago (+7/-0)     (whatever)

It worked for a while, but now no one seems to be concerned they will be sued for discriminating on the basis of a medical condition anymore. I can't help but believe its because they are more afraid of the health department fining them, but that's another issue entirely. I called the ADA hotline and asked about it. The girl on the line said "they can make protocols in the interest of public safety. This includes requirements to ware a mask or a face shield. I pressed her about how this can supersede those with a medical condition that prevents them from wearing a mask. The short and shit answer was too damn bad.

I am not surprised by any of this mind you. I knew the masks were never about safety or health from the beginning, and no amount of evidence as to the ineffectiveness of masks since then has changed any(government) minds about it, nor will it. The simple truth is the masks are a half-life 2 pop can.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNd8iNx1gGk

In the game this is a test of submission. It is designed to show the player that they are in a dystopian hell hole. The masks, which have no medical justification whatsoever, and in fact are dangerous, are just this - a test of submission.

I am sure everyone here understands that perfectly well, but for the time being I... WE need to find another way to deal with this. I won't cave. I will lose my job before I do, but so much the better if I don't have to.

So time to get down to brass tacks. What is the most effective way to ramrod this or any exemption through at work or the doctors office? If the answer is "lawyer" or "sue them", remember I'll need to start with a lawyer that will even see me without a mask, and is willing to fight this. That is a pickle right there since most will also be posed.

I need details. How do I go about finding the right lawyer, what do I say, how do I present myself? What exactly are my rights?

I'm in Indiana btw. There isn't any standing public mask mandate that I am aware of, but all the medical offices that I've checked (many) all said masks are required. I have been thrown out of several places when I booked an appointment and tried just showing up in spite of the mandates. I've said and done everything short of suing to bully this through, all to no avail. Clearly that strat isn't working anymore either.

This isn't as simple as not giving my business to a lefty restaurant. Medical and work are serious and worth fighting for.

I'm grateful for any advice.


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[ - ] HughBriss 7 points 3.5 yearsDec 9, 2021 23:18:30 ago (+7/-0)

I live in Commiefornia. I never wore a mask. Not now, not last year. I went shopping everywhere without a mask, and when I was confronted I always ignored them, walked away, and eventually they left me alone. I acted with dignity, defended myself, and I didn't wear a FUCKING MASK.

Don't give in. Don't play by their rules. Always remember you are RIGHT and fight back.

[ - ] mongre 0 points 3.5 yearsDec 10, 2021 04:37:21 ago (+0/-0)

Me, too...I gotta say it was a comfort seeing you, the ONE other person who stuck to logic, refused to be muzzled, in stores and other places. It gave me hope there are at least some of us with brains.

[ - ] SparklingWiggle 4 points 3.5 yearsDec 9, 2021 21:22:13 ago (+4/-0)

Find an old doctor. Ask him to lie for you.

[ - ] Aze [op] 1 point 3.5 yearsDec 9, 2021 21:26:08 ago (+1/-0)

Easy to say, hard to do. How do I even find an old one when I have to go through the young idiot women in the reception office to get to them? How do I find an old doctor that is specialized in the field I need?

Easy to say, hard to do.

[ - ] SparklingWiggle 4 points 3.5 yearsDec 9, 2021 21:49:54 ago (+4/-0)

You might need to network a little bit. Ask some friends or your parents' friends, depending on your age. You could even go to your doctor and straight up ask. One reason I am telling you this is because doctors and nurses aren't trusting of the vaxx. Older doctors are so close to retirement they don't care if the get caught for having lied about taking it themselves. They have someone lie for them and vice versa. I know* this happen. Go see your doctor, they will ask if you've been vaxx, when you say no, gauge his response. If he doesn't seem to care or makes an agreeing comment, straight up tell him you are terrified of the shots and wish someone could squirt the vaxx in the sink for you. Guage his response and the ask if he knows anyone. Go from there.

The other thing you can do is move. There are plenty of places, assuming you are American, that don't push this shit. You can go into business for yourself. All those immigrants owning businesses just get loans to open franchises. Be bold. Live life on your terms.

[ - ] we_kill_creativity 2 points 3.5 yearsDec 10, 2021 10:37:09 ago (+2/-0)

You could do what I did when I had to get drug tested for a new job and just tell them "No." when they ask you to wear a mask. Worked for me. I live in rural Illinois, so I imagine a similar atmosphere regarding all the mandates. You could also look for alternative/holistic doctors. What part of Indiana are you in? I know of one in Eastern Illinois you could look into if you're nearby, which you might be.

[ - ] Aze [op] 0 points 3.5 yearsDec 15, 2021 08:44:21 ago (+0/-0)

Do tell, I'm in northern indiana but i'd be willing to drive a while if it becomes needed.

[ - ] we_kill_creativity 0 points 3.5 yearsDec 15, 2021 12:54:37 ago (+0/-0)

https://www.klepzignaturalhealingclinic.com/charleston-il

Apparently they also have an office in Champaign, IL. I just know of them and they come recommended to me from my former mentor who got me started on my journey into natural health. I haven't needed to visit a doctor during any of this because, frankly, I'm very healthy, so they are just a suggestion on my part, but I'd be floored if they did any of the mask BS.

[ - ] GeneralDisarray 1 point 3.5 yearsDec 9, 2021 23:16:34 ago (+1/-0)

"The beginning of wisdom is calling a thing by its proper name"

Call it all out as gaslighting and narcissistic abuse!!

Ask them if they are ok with being charged and sued with psychological torture and denial of rights.

Point out that the tactics being used are know to be used by narcissists, psychopaths and pedophiles. And that they have made themselves accomplices in treason, crimes against humanity and genocide. That their ignorance is no defence under the law.

These morons only care about personal consequences and they worry more about the government abusing them or losing their jobs. Make them worry about the legal consequences of their blind obedience.

[ - ] Yargiyankooli 1 point 3.5 yearsDec 9, 2021 23:34:49 ago (+1/-0)

I have a dentist appointment coming up. I refuse to wear the mask but I know they will try. And I assume if they refuse to see me they will charge me with a cancellation fee.

[ - ] Broc_Liath 2 points 3.5 yearsDec 9, 2021 23:54:18 ago (+2/-0)

Don't pay. I've been charged ridiculous fees before and I just flat out ignore them. It is not worth their while sending more than three emails chasing $20.

[ - ] DonaldJTrump 1 point 3.5 yearsDec 10, 2021 10:20:22 ago (+1/-0)

Debt collectors chasing medical debt can't do anything more than send you threatening letters. They can't take your assets or paycheck. They can't hurt your credit. Fuck 'em.

[ - ] dontknowwhatiwant 1 point 3.5 yearsDec 10, 2021 02:03:55 ago (+1/-0)

Often I forget there are still places requiring the ridiculous face diaper.

FUck the mask, fuck the vaxx, fuck Fraudski.

SO glad I live in Texas!

[ - ] ReturnOfTheGoats 1 point 3.5 yearsDec 10, 2021 02:14:24 ago (+1/-0)

A lot of doctors are offering video appointments now. If you’re looking to see a lawyer or a doctor in person I would get them (not the receptionist) on the phone if possible and tell them you are exempt from wearing a mask prior to your appointment. That way you don’t waste your time. This has worked for me.

[ - ] Flabbygasted 0 points 3.5 yearsDec 9, 2021 21:19:27 ago (+0/-0)

You ever watch that movie John Q? The courts wont help you.

[ - ] Aze [op] 2 points 3.5 yearsDec 9, 2021 21:24:18 ago (+2/-0)

The US is occupied. I've been trying to wake everyone that will listen up to this fact, so I am well aware. Still, not everyone is jewed, otherwise the courts wouldn't of blocked biden's vax mandate.

I am looking for any strat, not just lawyers btw.

[ - ] Flabbygasted 1 point 3.5 yearsDec 9, 2021 21:37:40 ago (+1/-0)

Wouldn't have blocked his vax mandate... That only happened (temporarily) to get you to say not everyone is kiked. Every single one of them is kiked, but they need you to think there's still a few on your side. Someone to root for.

[ - ] Aze [op] 3 points 3.5 yearsDec 9, 2021 21:47:34 ago (+3/-0)

Maybe. Haha.

I am reminded of that post about the rats in water. The rats gave up and drowned in 15 minutes. Then they did the experiment again, and this times they pulled the rats out at 13 minutes and let them rest before putting them back in. This times the rats swam for like 24 hours before collapsing. One soldiered on for 48 hours.

I think about this in relation to current events often.

[ - ] Flabbygasted 0 points 3.5 yearsDec 9, 2021 21:57:39 ago (+0/-0)

They should've bit down on the hand as hard as possible.

[ - ] Aze [op] 1 point 3.5 yearsDec 9, 2021 22:07:08 ago (+1/-0)

that part got left out of the study report.

[ - ] deleted 1 point 3.5 yearsDec 10, 2021 10:57:20 ago (+1/-0)

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[ - ] WhiteCollarCriminal 0 points 3.5 yearsDec 10, 2021 00:45:32 ago (+0/-0)

You can find a lawyer willing to take your case but be prepared to put in some leg work. Start by calling your states local bar association, they'll usually have a referral section. The more specific you are the better chances you'll find a good match. Don't give up if the first one says no and don't be afraid to ask him/her for a referral. I always offered a referral if it was something I wasn't interested in or was too busy. It may take you a day of calling but you'll find someone.

[ - ] Lordbananafist 0 points 3.5 yearsDec 9, 2021 21:21:13 ago (+0/-0)

You’re gonna need to build a kibbutz/agorist enclave with big stockade walls

[ - ] albatrosv15 0 points 3.5 yearsDec 10, 2021 03:40:53 ago (+0/-0)

The last time i went to a doctor, they said i have to wear a mask. So i left. Just left. Fuck them.

[ - ] totes_magotes 0 points 3.5 yearsDec 10, 2021 11:09:58 ago (+0/-0)

You mean to tell us that in all this time, nearly two years now, that you haven't been planning ahead and trying to get ahead of what you and everyone 100% knew was going to happen? And now you want us to do your work for you?

"A lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on our."

No.

This situation you're in right now is 100% your fault because you knew it was going to happen. I have no problem lifting people up when they fall but you deliberately tripped yourself on this one.

And this bullshit about "Prove to me covid exists" and they hung up. That wasn't a victory, moron. Those people have better things to do with their day than to argue incessantly with people who won't go out and look it up for themselves. Photos of COVID, dumbass: https://www.cdc.gov/media/subtopic/images.htm

I feel for you but, no. You sat on your ass in hubris and arrogance and now it's come back to bite you.

[ - ] Aze [op] 0 points 3.5 yearsDec 10, 2021 15:30:15 ago (+0/-0)

Im not sure if you were talking to me, because I don't know what you are on about.

I'll assume you arn't.

[ - ] totes_magotes 0 points 3.5 yearsDec 10, 2021 16:10:21 ago (+0/-0)

I am, you fucking idiot. You're the only goddamned OP here.

[ - ] 1Icemonkey -1 points 3.5 yearsDec 9, 2021 23:50:33 ago (+0/-1)

Are you a sniveling gimp? You called the ADA, the enemy of the people? Wtf?

[ - ] paul_neri -4 points 3.5 yearsDec 9, 2021 23:17:35 ago (+1/-5)

My advice person from Indiana is to mask-up and indeed get double-vaccinated with a booster. But talking about masks, my wife and I had this discussion yesterday and she was a very reluctant mask-wearer in the First Wave but now she wears her mask shopping as if it's simply some other item of clothing. Now she can't see why people make such a big deal about it. Yes it's a bit inconvenient but not much and look at the benefit... increases Covid protection by 200% when two people are wearing masks.

[ - ] Broc_Liath 4 points 3.5 yearsDec 9, 2021 23:57:19 ago (+4/-0)

- Covid is not a threat, it does not require protection

- Even if it did, surgical masks are worthless without overhead industrial ventilation and cloth masks are bacterial sponges