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Anyone find specific evidence on how the Canadians are figuring out who the crowd funding donors were, to seize their banks?

submitted by 3Whuurs to AskUpgoat 3.3 yearsFeb 23, 2022 02:37:23 ago (+21/-0)     (AskUpgoat)

The best way is clearly to ask the banks for the list of accounts that donated but they don’t seem to be doing that.
Cause why would some get hit and not others?

https://files.catbox.moe/lpckq3.jpeg

I got Family right in this ladies area that even donated the same amount and never got flagged like she did.
That politician casually says the government gave the banks a list of names but where would they get this list, if not from the banks?
They can’t possibly be issuing emergency orders based on a hacked / leaked web list, when they could just ask the banks.
But then why would 2 of my cousins in that exact area, give the same amount and not get fucked?

Both my guys say they used fake names and sock ProtonMail accounts to donate, so it would make sense they would be left alone if the gov is just going off that list.




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[ - ] thebearfromstartrack4 0 points 3.3 yearsFeb 23, 2022 10:01:11 ago (+0/-0)

ALL kinds of ILLEGAL? (in canada?) surveillance going on I expect.

[ - ] zr855 0 points 3.3 yearsFeb 23, 2022 10:56:45 ago (+0/-0)

Bitcoin got through no problem. Also can't be seized digitally. They have to come to your house and even then, if you use multisig they'd have to go to many houses to get your bitcoin AND they wouldn't even know which houses to go to.

[ - ] zr855 0 points 3.3 yearsFeb 23, 2022 11:05:20 ago (+0/-0)

US dollars and Canadian dollars are created at will by kikes to fund their interests.

If you haven't transacted in decentralized cryptocurrency with your friends and family, YOU ARE THE PROBLEM.

[ - ] zr855 0 points 3.3 yearsFeb 23, 2022 11:07:19 ago (+0/-0)

All banks and credit unions answer to the central bank (federal reserve). The federal reserve is kiked to hell. All US dollars are kike dollars. You can't win if you use your enemy's money.

https://youtu.be/JG5c8nhR3LE

[ - ] green_man 0 points 3.3 yearsFeb 23, 2022 12:05:30 ago (+0/-0)

Distributed Denial of Secrets, a "hacktivist" group which is suspected to be a clearing house for illegal state sponsored hacking activities, released the info on who donated to Kyle Rittenhouse’s defense fund along with who donated to the truckers. Governments probably have direct access to all of the financial transactions without even having to ask the banks (if this isn't illegal it should be) and directly pulled the information to target these people, but distributed denial of secrets provided the plausible deniability/cover for how the information was obtained.

[ - ] MasterAce 0 points 3.3 yearsFeb 23, 2022 12:31:42 ago (+0/-0)

Yes,
https://www.voat.xyz/viewpost?postid=620d667c67c2f
You say your dudes used fake names so that’s why they didn’t make the list.
Also bankers are getting fucked with the cash run so as of last night they ain’t freezing accts.

[ - ] 3Whuurs [op] 0 points 3.3 yearsFeb 23, 2022 14:42:16 ago (+0/-0)

Ok well in an effort to be sure before better info comes out, play that scenario through.

Scenario #1
Wether the names are being derived from GoFundMe or from GiveSendGo, from the hacked list or otherwise.
This means the government is not just asking the banks to tell them every single name with perfect verification.
But why?
This would have to mean that even in an actual war time legal scenario, Trudeau still doesn’t have the right to demand banking information. I’m not a lawyer but I’m pretty sure only a few countries have ever had that kind of banking secrecy.

But I (armchair quarterback) find it really hard to believe all the government machinery would be activated and running on some list some ANTIFA cunt pulled off the web between child rapes, even if CSIS hired him to do it.
That’s just not official enough information to activate government action.

If they got the list from GoFundMe, then I can see the gov considering that ore all information.
But it’s hard to think a tyrant actually in power would start a which hunt based off an open pedophiles hacked list, then accept defeat in figuring out who many of them are because they used a fake name when the banks know 100% of the names with 100% certainty.

Scenario #2
CSIS just hacked the info themselves and the gov isn’t questioning it.

That’s possible, so the laziest fucks are obviously going to just jump at that and think no more, but governments don’t like to do that shit because they can’t go the distance in court with it, especially if there’s potentially 10s of 1000s of people in the lawsuit.


As far as the hack, I can believe forsure CSIS or the RCMP had that done, but the only purpose that hack served imo is to activate Gladio “ANTIFA” child fuckers against the whites.

[ - ] Not_C 0 points 3.3 yearsFeb 23, 2022 13:38:57 ago (+0/-0)

My question regarding the seized bank accounts is -

They say that the Convoy was a terrorist act or illegal or whatever, but before it was declared illegal - People donated to, what at the time was, a legal cause.

So why do they have their bank accounts seized?

[ - ] 3Whuurs [op] 2 points 3.3 yearsFeb 23, 2022 14:45:27 ago (+2/-0)

Unfortunately the answer is as simple as it sounds. The reason war measures acts are so evil is because 1 guy can rule everything AND all requirements to justify shit is dropped.
It’s as simple as “because they say so”.
With the added benefit of this justifying the social credit score system.

[ - ] rhy 1 point 3.3 yearsFeb 23, 2022 06:55:55 ago (+2/-1)

The fact that we all didn't move over to decentralized currency like Bitcoin already just shows how stupid and lazy our species is

[ - ] AlexanderMorose13 1 point 3.3 yearsFeb 23, 2022 09:00:50 ago (+2/-1)

Come on, Rhy? Not you too.

They can track crypto payments easier than banking transactions now, unless you have a decent background in IT and security. Bitcoin itself is not the promised land; it's a vehicle means to an end, but it's still not going in the direction it was originally created for. While I despise centralized control over currency, the problem is governance. And then, the even bigger issue is that no one understands how important sovereignty and freedom are and how they are related. There's never going to be any sovereignty and freedom as long as we use the fiat currencies issued and accepted by the banks.

[ - ] zr855 0 points 3.3 yearsFeb 23, 2022 10:59:36 ago (+0/-0)

Monero is untraceable. Bitcoin is untraceable if your public addresses aren't tied with your name in any way. If many more start using bitcoin, it will be untraceable. You don't know what you're talking about and you're working against the interests of your people. Kike or Shabbos goy confirmed.

[ - ] AlexanderMorose13 0 points 3.3 yearsFeb 23, 2022 22:09:06 ago (+0/-0)

I'm done talking to the ears of don't who don't allow my words to reach them. Fuck off with you.

[ - ] zr855 0 points 3.3 yearsFeb 23, 2022 22:14:52 ago (+0/-0)

Later kike!

[ - ] zr855 1 point 3.3 yearsFeb 23, 2022 11:02:48 ago (+1/-0)

You're absolutely right. The kikes and shabbos goy here will defend the hell out of kike US dollars and denigrate crypto (in the most retarded of ways). It's easy to see moving to decentralized crypto is the way forward.

[ - ] mikenigger 0 points 3.3 yearsFeb 23, 2022 10:39:22 ago (+0/-0)

The exchanges are already cucked, they require KYC and datamine the blockchain for "tainted" coins.

[ - ] zr855 0 points 3.3 yearsFeb 23, 2022 11:01:15 ago (+0/-0)

Use coinjoin after you get your coins or just trade them for Monero and you're done. Denigrating crypto because of exchanges is kike behavior.

[ - ] mikenigger 0 points 3.3 yearsFeb 23, 2022 11:08:11 ago (+0/-0)*

That is a lot less convenient and you know it. Stores will be strongarmed into treating it like dollars and the payment processors will lock out individuals the same way.

It's not that hard to predict what's going to happen: "Accept crypto only through our kiked system or lose the ability to process regular credit cards"

[ - ] zr855 0 points 3.3 yearsFeb 23, 2022 11:13:30 ago (+0/-0)

So now you give up your freedom because of inconvenience...nice! It's not even inconvenient. It's just a small learning curve. Still, you don't even have to do that. Trade someone for bitcoin and your name isn't tied to your address. Sell something on craigslist, same thing. In other words, USE IT.

Stores will be strongarmed into treating it like dollars and the payment processors will lock out individuals the same way.

I know every time I go to my barber, he demands I don't pay in cash. Lol, what an absurd argument. There is no payment processor if you just accept bitcoin. You are the payment processor.

You either don't know how crypto works or you're a kike/shabbos goy.

[ - ] mikenigger 1 point 3.3 yearsFeb 23, 2022 12:21:07 ago (+1/-0)

Stores will not post their own address and wait till the payment clears, idiot. The vast majority will outsource it to some payment processor and we're back to square one, that's my point.

[ - ] zr855 0 points 3.3 yearsFeb 23, 2022 13:46:33 ago (+0/-0)

Your point is retarded. Bitcoin over lightning "clears" instantly. If your point is they want to exchange for kike dollars well there's less and less a desire for that. Kike dollars aren't the only money you fucking kike. Lots of places are just holding bitcoin now. If they want to exchange it, they can using a standard exchange at this point. You might want to look at btcpay.

Just admit you're a kike that pushes kike US dollars and that's it.

[ - ] 3Whuurs [op] 0 points 3.3 yearsFeb 23, 2022 13:34:00 ago (+0/-0)

You can’t bring monero through an exchange anonymously. What you’re claiming can only be done with Ghost coin.

[ - ] zr855 0 points 3.3 yearsFeb 23, 2022 13:39:33 ago (+0/-0)

I'm not aware of anything more private than monero. Perhaps you're right. You don't have to "bring monero through an exchange anonymously" though. Once you have it, no matter where you got it, you can send it anonymously.

[ - ] 3Whuurs [op] 0 points 3.3 yearsFeb 23, 2022 14:57:20 ago (+0/-0)

Yes, but not through an exchange.
If Macafee ever did anything right, Ghost coin was probably his magnum opus right before he died.
When you buy or sell Monero at the exchange, all security is disarmed and you’re exposed.
The gov wanting to get your crypto, and the gov wanting to get you for having (or having had) crypto, are 2 different things.

If they declare crypto illegal for you, all they have to do is decide that proving

once you have it

Is sufficient to find you, when you are their target, not your crypto.

There was supposed to be a ghost exchange that I think (but not sure) Macafee said would help Monero a bit to, but I do t know if that took off.

https://t.me/ghostcoinbymcafee

[ - ] zr855 0 points 3.3 yearsFeb 23, 2022 15:08:29 ago (+0/-0)

Ahh I remember now. Ghost coin is interesting. Is it getting any traction? I think Secret may be similar.

As far as getting coins from exchanges. It's too late for the government to do anything now. It's reached an inflection point where it's unstoppable. Truth be told, the elites need bitcoin at this point. They have to have something as they are wrecking USD. THEY need an escape plan too.

I did like what Ghost coin was doing. I'll take another look. It's too bad if it's lost traction now that McAfee is gone.

[ - ] yesiknow 2 points 3.3 yearsFeb 23, 2022 02:51:41 ago (+2/-0)

I wonder if it's possible credit unions aren't cooperating?

[ - ] 3Whuurs [op] 2 points 3.3 yearsFeb 23, 2022 03:19:54 ago (+2/-0)

That was exactly what my cousins were wondering.
If the gov is going by a list of names, I guess people on it couldn’t just go set up another account at new banks.
But this level of detail has been hard to get, about anything to do with that protest.
Every time shit happens, like 5 Canadians I know ask me this stuff and I can never find details.

[ - ] CoronaHoax 2 points 3.3 yearsFeb 23, 2022 08:11:44 ago (+2/-0)

Sounds like we need to start donating off of random names from the voter rolls in Minecraft

[ - ] Tav 3 points 3.3 yearsFeb 23, 2022 05:24:04 ago (+3/-0)

The MO in the United States, I believe, is that the federal authorities already have access to all of the information they need to track the payments. However most of this evidence is inadmissible in court, or if it is admissible they do not want to submit it so that their quasi-legal surveillance methods are not generally known.

This allows them to cherry pick who they prosecute but can make it more difficult to bring some cases to court.

Are they bringing charges against people who donated or just temporarily freezing bank accounts for the fun of it?

[ - ] ModernGuilt 1 point 3.3 yearsFeb 23, 2022 07:24:37 ago (+1/-0)

However most of this evidence is inadmissible in court

Yes but thats where "parallel construction" comes into play. They go on a fishing expedition to find something else you've done and pretend that justifies the whole thing.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_construction

[ - ] 3Whuurs [op] 0 points 3.3 yearsFeb 23, 2022 13:31:07 ago (+0/-0)

Just freezing accounts so far from what I’ve heard. But it’s still early on. I’ll bet they’re all having a particularly hard time with their taxes for the next couple years.

[ - ] deleted 5 points 3.3 yearsFeb 23, 2022 02:44:10 ago (+5/-0)

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[ - ] 3Whuurs [op] 1 point 3.3 yearsFeb 23, 2022 03:14:15 ago (+1/-0)

Ya I never thought of that.
All the attention has been on the GiveSendGo lately so I just assumed it was that batch of people they’re fucking with.
But either crowd funding site would have less ability to figure out whose Canadian then just asking the Canadian banks.
So it’s still a bit strange, and I guess time will tell, but it’s disappointing how few people include relevant details in their accounts of shit.

Let us know if you hear any specifics.