submitted by Aze to whatever3.1 yearsMar 19, 2022 23:07:08 ago (+22/-4) (whatever)
The speed at which the world was made to take an unneeded and transparently dangerous depop shot surprised me more then I care to admit. Really thought even the normies would fight that one, boy was I wrong. Now the world is moving toward a global digital currency with the same freakish speed and, having learned from experience, I now assume the sheeple will cheer for it. I predict by the end of this year this final noose will be more or less in place. Meat is beginning to soring in price as we transition into bug based protein, and 5G has also rolled out all over the U.S. and is now more or less unavoidable. I could go on, but you know already. Sadly, I don't see any meaningful resistance to any of this right now, and to be frank I'm more then a little black pilled, but until my final Kobayashi-Maru I will continue to play my cards to the best of my ability.
So I've come to ask about the last one, 5G, and what can be done about it. My phone carrier has now "upgraded" to 5G and is requiring cell phones be equipped with the new 5G compatible chips. I don't want or need 5G but as far as I can tell the service will simply stop working if I don't put the chip in, and already has in the city where I work. The idea of switching carriers seems pointless as well, since they are all doing the 5G thing, but I'd love to be proven wrong about this.
Until then my question is this: First will installing the chip make my phone a 5G transmitter? IE I can't do anything about the 5G towers blasting everyone with damaging radiation, but I'll be damned if I put a mini one 8 inches from my nuts for hours at a time. Second, and I mean this in the worst way, is there anything that can meaningfully be done about this?
I'm not looking for "Just trash your phone bro" or "lol go live in the woods faggot" or "Start shooting towers pussy". I'm sure at least one shill will say it anyway, but I digress.
[ - ] Aze [op] 1 point 3.1 yearsMar 20, 2022 05:54:23 ago (+1/-0)
I knew at least one would say it, but until I am convinced my cell phone is / will give me cancer then it stays around. Mostly the problem is the towers washing everything around them 24/7 with radiation.
If push comes to shove it will go in the trash and I will figure it out.
By the time the writing is on the wall, and you are convinced the pocketphone is/will give you cancer, it's most probable you will already have cancer.
First find a way for like minded people, such as you and I, to communicate without fear that some glow nigger is going to try and paint us conspirators and jail us for expressing our first amendment rights. Once we can actually talk we'll figure something out.
I've considered this. In general I don't like defeatism. On the other hand I am also a realist, and wish to play my cards accordingly. It is a conundrum.
[ - ] qwop 1 point 3.1 yearsMar 20, 2022 11:18:19 ago (+1/-0)
You cannot put a "5G chip" into a current phone and expect it to become a "5G phone". 5G just means fifth generation technology. You need a whole new phone for it to support this tech, unless you bought a fifth generation compatible phone from the start.
There is no phone on the market that can be upgraded by switching some, or any, consumer parts by yourself. Such phones with consumer upgradeable chips simply do not exist.
Your carrier must mean they want you to change your SIM card. It is simply marketing. My guess is they will send you a new SIM card which says you're now "5G", and then they will charge you more for the same service you had before.
They are just upselling something to you, in order to have an excuse to charge you more.
[ - ] beece 1 point 3.1 yearsMar 20, 2022 08:39:57 ago (+1/-0)*
It's tightening for sure. They already have your phone locked down. A significant part of the next step is working on 1st and 2nd amendment which we see everywhere. Soros prosecutors let criminals off (Muh racism) so that the increased "gun violence" drumbeat in the lying media must be addressed. Once normies are onboard and gun control has been achieved, they can move forward.
You need to focus on media and local education to have any impact at all.
[ - ] Razzoriel 1 point 3.1 yearsMar 20, 2022 07:43:13 ago (+1/-0)
Cellphones and wireless routers emit very little 5G. Its the antennas that are a problem, especially when imposed one over another for multiple carrier transmission.
Come back and tell us what happens. I'm on 4g as i repair my own phone rather than upgrade. I find my signal is not as good as newer phones on 5g but heyho i only use it for text and voat.
My cell phone is my navigator, which yes I can make do without. It is my work phone, which I am not required to have and can do without, but damn would it be annoying. Obviously convivence does not trump my health so I would part with it if absolutely needed. It is entertainment when I am trapped on a train for 12 hours with nothing to do but read. Lastly and most important to me, its my mp3 player. I could and will get a plain mp3 player if it comes too it.
In the end the phone is just all of these things in one nice package, we all know that. Necessary for life? No, I'm not an NPC, but I do enjoy it all the same. If I can avoid the biggest problems with it I will, if not... then it goes in the bin.
BTW, no one has said yet if the sim card will make the phone a 5g source. The health concerns are mute if it won't.
Two factor authentication. A bunch of crypto sites want me to have a way to confirm passwords. My bank wanted me to install their app too but I refused and they sent me a little authentication gadget instead.
You can get standalone gps navigators that don't use the cell network.
- Phone and texts can be done with a dumbphone, some of them do emails too
- Ereaders aren't expensive, also they're way nicer to read from than a phone
- Dumbphones often take micro-SD cards so you could have a few GB of music on one. Or a standalone player, they cost like $2 from china
I don't actually think the health concerns are a problem unless you live next to a tower, phones just don't have enough power in them to do anything nasty. The concern for me is more to do with being tracked: Smartphones come with all kinds of surveillance shit that dumbphones don't.
For example, supposed you decide to read mein kampf and there's an anti-semetic graffiti incident in your area near where you were walking, now the police can easily correlate those two pieces of information and gain reasonable suspicion to search your house. Whereas if you have a dumbphone and download epubs to an ereader they'd have no easy way to link the two devices.
[ - ] localsal 1 point 3.1 yearsMar 20, 2022 00:30:23 ago (+1/-0)*
Requiring 5G may be something extra.
5G is the "data" band, where all internet based communications travel.
The cell signal is still very much in the GSM or CDMA band that has been around for years. If texts still use the extra cell packets, then 5G isn't needed for texts.
Old phones that do not have 5G antennas will still continue to look for and pick up (where available) 3G and 4G data, until those are phased out.
If you do not use any phone data, you can turn it off, and not affect cell signal.
I wouldn't bet everything I have that I understand the above correctly, but I would make a healthy bet on it.
As it stands, 5G rollout is still very much scattered, and with multiple bands, as in anywhere from 6Ghz to 50Ghz (the real 5G gold standard), and that makes both phones, carriers, and location create variants in reception quality.
Whether the carriers drop the GSM and CDMA bands, I don't know.
I have an android phone from 12 years ago that still gets a working cell signal. Doesn't even have 4G capabilities, and I'm sure 3G is long deprecated in my area. The "data" icon says "2G" on it, LOL. But the cell signal is as strong as my newer phone.
My first guess as to why the carriers want 5G phones is for a more pinpoint accuracy. The phased array part of the 5G system resolves location down to 15cm or something.
Edit: Not sure if you can find them around anymore, but I would guess flip phones still work for cell calls.
All phones are required to be able to call emergency numbers - 999, 911, 000, etc, with or without a paid for service.
The carriers bought the bandwidth of the cell frequencies, and are not using them? Seems like a weird situation.
I might be convinced there is a software decision to use data vs the cell signal when convenient, but I don't see it as a requirement.
By law, every cell phone needs to be able to call emergency services - with or without a carrier plan. I can walk into walmart and buy 10 different phones from the carriers and each one is able to call emergency services out of the box. I don't see the carriers allowing data connections for that - but I could be wrong. I don't follow the cell phone industry that closely. To me, data requires a sim handshake and credentialling.
Also, audio calls are so low bandwidth that it makes it a total waste to not use the cell band. Audio can be sent over the radio with less than a 1MHz carrier signal.
I'd guess that the older standards had the base low-bandwidth channel for control messages/texts, and voice. Then added data channels, which some phones could use. Of course there was CDMA (Sprint, Verizon) that wouldn't let you do any data during a call, which was total BS. Good riddance.
That's a good point about validating an account to use data, and emergency calls.
As of right now my cell still works at my house, but in the city I work it no longer will dial out. It just exits the call screen before ringing. Texts and internet still works for some reason.
No idea why this is, since as you put it and I understand it, 5G is for internet not phone calls.
From what I've read 4G LTE isn't going away. All new phones are now 5G compliant. I've also got a 4G flip phone with a removable battery used when needed. My next smartphone might be 5G compliant, but at least it'll be a de-googled one. No IOS for me.
Unfortunately 2FA security requires a smart device that associates a person to an online account for access. Either that or an SMS code sent to a smart device, thus making them a necessity.
Letting biden fail instead of dragging him out of office for cheating is they type of thing that emasculates a countries manhood. Good place to start fixing things right here.
But no seriously, start prepping, and if you can get into homesteading this year or next, do it. This shit won't stop. I have no idea if 5g is as bad as they say but I was surprised by how hard they pushed the rollout of 5g phones along with everything else. Maybe it's just to control whatever's in the vaccines, but maybe it isn't. No way out of having it now unless you can disconnect from society to an extent. Maybe get cargo pants so you have a pocket further from your balls.
[ + ] yesiknow
[ - ] yesiknow 14 points 3.1 yearsMar 20, 2022 01:14:22 ago (+14/-0)
[ + ] Aze
[ - ] Aze [op] 1 point 3.1 yearsMar 20, 2022 05:54:23 ago (+1/-0)
If push comes to shove it will go in the trash and I will figure it out.
[ + ] Redhairin
[ - ] Redhairin 0 points 3.1 yearsMar 20, 2022 20:41:26 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] albatrosv15
[ - ] albatrosv15 0 points 3.1 yearsMar 20, 2022 05:26:08 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] WhiteCollarCriminal
[ - ] WhiteCollarCriminal 6 points 3.1 yearsMar 19, 2022 23:37:18 ago (+6/-0)
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[ - ] deleted 0 points 3.1 yearsMar 20, 2022 14:12:24 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] deleted -1 points 3.1 yearsMar 20, 2022 13:02:28 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] Artificial_Intelligentile
[ - ] Artificial_Intelligentile 4 points 3.1 yearsMar 20, 2022 04:19:34 ago (+4/-0)
a case that is so thickly lined with tinfoil (i am not kidding, though led (Pb) works better)
you can also sell those.
wont have connection though while in the case...
[ + ] 1Icemonkey
[ - ] 1Icemonkey 5 points 3.1 yearsMar 20, 2022 09:42:35 ago (+5/-0)
[ + ] Artificial_Intelligentile
[ - ] Artificial_Intelligentile 1 point 3.1 yearsMar 20, 2022 11:58:26 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] FalseRealityCheck
[ - ] FalseRealityCheck 0 points 3.1 yearsMar 20, 2022 13:36:25 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Prairie
[ - ] Prairie 4 points 3.1 yearsMar 20, 2022 07:03:57 ago (+4/-0)
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[ + ] Prairie
[ - ] Prairie 2 points 3.1 yearsMar 20, 2022 07:06:02 ago (+2/-0)
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[ + ] Aze
[ - ] Aze [op] 3 points 3.1 yearsMar 20, 2022 05:51:56 ago (+3/-0)
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[ + ] qwop
[ - ] qwop 1 point 3.1 yearsMar 20, 2022 11:18:19 ago (+1/-0)
There is no phone on the market that can be upgraded by switching some, or any, consumer parts by yourself. Such phones with consumer upgradeable chips simply do not exist.
Your carrier must mean they want you to change your SIM card. It is simply marketing. My guess is they will send you a new SIM card which says you're now "5G", and then they will charge you more for the same service you had before.
They are just upselling something to you, in order to have an excuse to charge you more.
[ + ] 1Icemonkey
[ - ] 1Icemonkey 1 point 3.1 yearsMar 20, 2022 09:40:55 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Unreasonable
[ - ] Unreasonable 1 point 3.1 yearsMar 20, 2022 08:53:32 ago (+1/-0)
And yeah. This war is meant to begin the separation into the global regions. Putin is as much a puppet as Trump was.
[ + ] beece
[ - ] beece 1 point 3.1 yearsMar 20, 2022 08:39:57 ago (+1/-0)*
You need to focus on media and local education to have any impact at all.
[ + ] Razzoriel
[ - ] Razzoriel 1 point 3.1 yearsMar 20, 2022 07:43:13 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] 2017Fallout
[ - ] 2017Fallout 1 point 3.1 yearsMar 20, 2022 05:01:41 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 1 point 3.1 yearsMar 20, 2022 01:27:31 ago (+1/-0)
I carry around a dumbphone for texting, that's it. I really don't need anything else badly enough to carry a wiretap with me.
I also have a smartphone for 2FA, but it stays at home and doesn't have a sim card. When I'm not using it it's turned off in a metal box.
[ + ] Aze
[ - ] Aze [op] 0 points 3.1 yearsMar 20, 2022 06:11:09 ago (+0/-0)
My cell phone is my navigator, which yes I can make do without. It is my work phone, which I am not required to have and can do without, but damn would it be annoying. Obviously convivence does not trump my health so I would part with it if absolutely needed. It is entertainment when I am trapped on a train for 12 hours with nothing to do but read. Lastly and most important to me, its my mp3 player. I could and will get a plain mp3 player if it comes too it.
In the end the phone is just all of these things in one nice package, we all know that. Necessary for life? No, I'm not an NPC, but I do enjoy it all the same. If I can avoid the biggest problems with it I will, if not... then it goes in the bin.
BTW, no one has said yet if the sim card will make the phone a 5g source. The health concerns are mute if it won't.
[ + ] Jiggggg
[ - ] Jiggggg 0 points 3.1 yearsMar 20, 2022 08:06:47 ago (+0/-0)
I had to look it up too. My work does this (must have cell phone nearby to log on to work email) and it's very annoying
[ + ] Broc_Liath
[ - ] Broc_Liath 0 points 3.1 yearsMar 20, 2022 10:17:29 ago (+0/-0)
You can get standalone gps navigators that don't use the cell network.
- Phone and texts can be done with a dumbphone, some of them do emails too
- Ereaders aren't expensive, also they're way nicer to read from than a phone
- Dumbphones often take micro-SD cards so you could have a few GB of music on one. Or a standalone player, they cost like $2 from china
I don't actually think the health concerns are a problem unless you live next to a tower, phones just don't have enough power in them to do anything nasty. The concern for me is more to do with being tracked: Smartphones come with all kinds of surveillance shit that dumbphones don't.
For example, supposed you decide to read mein kampf and there's an anti-semetic graffiti incident in your area near where you were walking, now the police can easily correlate those two pieces of information and gain reasonable suspicion to search your house. Whereas if you have a dumbphone and download epubs to an ereader they'd have no easy way to link the two devices.
[ + ] localsal
[ - ] localsal 1 point 3.1 yearsMar 20, 2022 00:30:23 ago (+1/-0)*
5G is the "data" band, where all internet based communications travel.
The cell signal is still very much in the GSM or CDMA band that has been around for years. If texts still use the extra cell packets, then 5G isn't needed for texts.
Old phones that do not have 5G antennas will still continue to look for and pick up (where available) 3G and 4G data, until those are phased out.
If you do not use any phone data, you can turn it off, and not affect cell signal.
I wouldn't bet everything I have that I understand the above correctly, but I would make a healthy bet on it.
As it stands, 5G rollout is still very much scattered, and with multiple bands, as in anywhere from 6Ghz to 50Ghz (the real 5G gold standard), and that makes both phones, carriers, and location create variants in reception quality.
Whether the carriers drop the GSM and CDMA bands, I don't know.
I have an android phone from 12 years ago that still gets a working cell signal. Doesn't even have 4G capabilities, and I'm sure 3G is long deprecated in my area. The "data" icon says "2G" on it, LOL. But the cell signal is as strong as my newer phone.
My first guess as to why the carriers want 5G phones is for a more pinpoint accuracy. The phased array part of the 5G system resolves location down to 15cm or something.
Edit: Not sure if you can find them around anymore, but I would guess flip phones still work for cell calls.
All phones are required to be able to call emergency numbers - 999, 911, 000, etc, with or without a paid for service.
[ + ] Prairie
[ - ] Prairie 1 point 3.1 yearsMar 20, 2022 07:05:21 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] localsal
[ - ] localsal 0 points 3.1 yearsMar 20, 2022 09:27:34 ago (+0/-0)
My 12 year old phone still gets calls and texts perfectly fine. But maybe I am in an area that won't get 5G for a long time.
[ + ] Prairie
[ - ] Prairie 0 points 3.1 yearsMar 21, 2022 01:34:11 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] localsal
[ - ] localsal 0 points 3.1 yearsMar 21, 2022 10:50:54 ago (+0/-0)
The carriers bought the bandwidth of the cell frequencies, and are not using them? Seems like a weird situation.
I might be convinced there is a software decision to use data vs the cell signal when convenient, but I don't see it as a requirement.
By law, every cell phone needs to be able to call emergency services - with or without a carrier plan. I can walk into walmart and buy 10 different phones from the carriers and each one is able to call emergency services out of the box. I don't see the carriers allowing data connections for that - but I could be wrong. I don't follow the cell phone industry that closely. To me, data requires a sim handshake and credentialling.
Also, audio calls are so low bandwidth that it makes it a total waste to not use the cell band. Audio can be sent over the radio with less than a 1MHz carrier signal.
[ + ] Prairie
[ - ] Prairie 0 points 3.1 yearsMar 21, 2022 23:52:33 ago (+0/-0)
That's a good point about validating an account to use data, and emergency calls.
[ + ] Aze
[ - ] Aze [op] 0 points 3.1 yearsMar 20, 2022 05:59:26 ago (+0/-0)
As of right now my cell still works at my house, but in the city I work it no longer will dial out. It just exits the call screen before ringing. Texts and internet still works for some reason.
No idea why this is, since as you put it and I understand it, 5G is for internet not phone calls.
[ + ] Redhairin
[ - ] Redhairin 0 points 3.1 yearsMar 20, 2022 20:52:58 ago (+0/-0)
https://www.pressenza.com/2020/07/is-there-an-alternative-to-5g/
https://safeg.net/home/
This suggests that 5G can be avoided:
https://www.androidcentral.com/reasons-not-get-5g-service
I don't have a pocketphone, and have no intention of ever having one.
[ + ] A1ATD
[ - ] A1ATD 0 points 3.1 yearsMar 20, 2022 13:01:27 ago (+0/-0)
Unfortunately 2FA security requires a smart device that associates a person to an online account for access. Either that or an SMS code sent to a smart device, thus making them a necessity.
[ + ] Uwotm8
[ - ] Uwotm8 0 points 3.1 yearsMar 20, 2022 11:34:05 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] NaturalSelectionistWorker
[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 0 points 3.1 yearsMar 20, 2022 09:43:17 ago (+0/-0)
But no seriously, start prepping, and if you can get into homesteading this year or next, do it. This shit won't stop. I have no idea if 5g is as bad as they say but I was surprised by how hard they pushed the rollout of 5g phones along with everything else. Maybe it's just to control whatever's in the vaccines, but maybe it isn't. No way out of having it now unless you can disconnect from society to an extent. Maybe get cargo pants so you have a pocket further from your balls.
[ + ] mikenigger
[ - ] mikenigger -1 points 3.1 yearsMar 19, 2022 23:51:53 ago (+2/-3)
kill yourself