Could you guys help me out? I have to file an appeal for an exemption just to work from home. I need some good arguments and facts to counter the idiots in charge of exemptions at my work. I had covid last summer and figure that the immunity from actually being sick is way better than any "vaccine" will provide.
It's not a health issue, it's a political issue. There is no argument against it because it's about compliance.
Ask them why you need it when it's proven that it does not prevent infection or transmission. What are they hoping to gain by making you get it? Who is making that decision. Ask to talk to that person then figure out something creative to do to help that person to better understand your position using an ink pen and his eyeballs.
Cite the recent uptick in reported cases and how you must not risk your life by having to be around your dirty and disgusting coworkers who are infested with all sorts of VD and germs, violating your pronouns and stuff!
Although, after I was done adding my own, HR may have just seen the 11 page document I finished with and said, "Fuckit, I'm not parsing through this" and just granted me the exemption."
Arguments or facts to counter them won't work. As others have pointed out, this is about compliance. It's a cult and membership is mandatory. Proving you are right will only annoy them and motivate them to punish you for your blasphemous ways.
If you wish to be obstinate anyway, and are in the US, and have not yet "self-disclosed" that you are not vaxxed, one option would be to simply refuse to answer such questions. They cannot force you to disclose private medical information. Legally, the whole thing hinges on "self-disclosure" - people just answering when asked casually - which they know and have been quite successfully exploiting and keeping quiet. Once disclosed the cat is out of the bag and they can require proof. Outside of the US it may be different.
If you wish to "play the game" but avoid submitting fully, and you are at a location and in an occupation that still permits it, your best bet is a religious exemption. Don't go into detail and don't answer unnecessary questions. Simply state that it is against your firmly held religious beliefs. Everything beyond is private and you don't wish to disclose for fear of discrimination.
But really...
The most sensible and dignified thing to do is look for other sources of income. Why would you work for people who think you need their permission to not be forced into unwanted medical procedures? For that matter, why would you remain under a jurisdiction that allows and enables this?
There are other ways to make money, and other places to be.
You work from home? And they're still demanding you get it? What, they think the wuflu will get transmitted through the internet? Did you point out how illogical their thinking is?
The number one (and only) argument - There IS NO VACCINE FOR COVID. IT IS NOT A VACCINE. IT DOES NOT STIMULATE YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM. IT BYPASSES IT ENTIRELY. IT IS AN EXPERIMENTAL GENE THERAPY. STOP ADDING TO THE GASLIGHT BY REFERRING TO IT AS A VACCINE
[ - ] Terraeri1 1 point 3.0 yearsMay 13, 2022 21:01:35 ago (+1/-0)
Wow. This is insane. It's hard to believe this is still a thing in some parts of the world. No one gives a fuck anymore where I am... Even if you go to work sick. No employer ever asked for vaccine proof even at height of the hysteria.
[ - ] Not_C 1 point 3.0 yearsMay 14, 2022 00:07:26 ago (+1/-0)
I have relatives who are in a high risk group and are knocking on death's door. I don't want to be the one who infects and kills them. That's why I refuse to get the injections.
You trust the science. And the science says that people who get the injections will still catch and spread Covid, but they are far less likely to know when they are infected and contagious. Because the injections make their symptoms less severe.
Demand that every vaxxed person take a daily Covid test. Because that's the only way to know if they are infected and contagious. Meanwhile, you don't need to take one unless you have symptoms. - Your coworkers will be more than happy to do it if it saves just one life and keeps everyone safe.
You will continue to stay un-vaxxed, (because unlike the selfish vaxxed people), you are more than willing to suffer through a few days of the sniffles if it prevents you from unknowingly infecting others.
Remember - You trust the science. And the science says that injected people still catch and spread Covid. They're just less likely to know they are murdering others because they don't have symptoms.
[ + ] TheViciousMrPim
[ - ] TheViciousMrPim 17 points 3.0 yearsMay 13, 2022 11:55:54 ago (+17/-0)
[ + ] lord_nougat
[ - ] lord_nougat 7 points 3.0 yearsMay 13, 2022 12:14:37 ago (+7/-0)
[ + ] Native
[ - ] Native 13 points 3.0 yearsMay 13, 2022 11:59:25 ago (+13/-0)
[ + ] Belrick
[ - ] Belrick 1 point 3.0 yearsMay 14, 2022 00:26:25 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Flabbygasted
[ - ] Flabbygasted 9 points 3.0 yearsMay 13, 2022 11:53:49 ago (+9/-0)
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[ - ] albatrosv15 6 points 3.0 yearsMay 13, 2022 12:43:35 ago (+6/-0)
[ + ] Reawakened
[ - ] Reawakened 8 points 3.0 yearsMay 13, 2022 12:54:48 ago (+8/-0)
Ask them why you need it when it's proven that it does not prevent infection or transmission. What are they hoping to gain by making you get it? Who is making that decision. Ask to talk to that person then figure out something creative to do to help that person to better understand your position using an ink pen and his eyeballs.
[ + ] SecretHitler
[ - ] SecretHitler 2 points 3.0 yearsMay 13, 2022 16:36:47 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] AttilaHitler
[ - ] AttilaHitler 3 points 3.0 yearsMay 13, 2022 17:47:55 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] lord_nougat
[ - ] lord_nougat 5 points 3.0 yearsMay 13, 2022 12:13:55 ago (+5/-0)*
HR will totally approve a request like that.
[ + ] PeckerwoodPerry
[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry 4 points 3.0 yearsMay 13, 2022 12:06:31 ago (+4/-0)
I've seen this argument used effectively to get an exemption at an Ivy League college. In New York.
[ + ] observation1
[ - ] observation1 3 points 3.0 yearsMay 13, 2022 12:12:02 ago (+3/-0)
https://www.voat.xyz/viewpost?postid=627e71c651997
[ + ] Nashorn
[ - ] Nashorn [op] 0 points 3.0 yearsMay 13, 2022 12:43:11 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] cyclops1771
[ - ] cyclops1771 3 points 3.0 yearsMay 13, 2022 15:06:07 ago (+3/-0)*
Although, after I was done adding my own, HR may have just seen the 11 page document I finished with and said, "Fuckit, I'm not parsing through this" and just granted me the exemption."
[ + ] Merlynn
[ - ] Merlynn 2 points 3.0 yearsMay 13, 2022 14:50:43 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] GloryBeckons
[ - ] GloryBeckons 2 points 3.0 yearsMay 13, 2022 15:03:54 ago (+2/-0)
If you wish to be obstinate anyway, and are in the US, and have not yet "self-disclosed" that you are not vaxxed, one option would be to simply refuse to answer such questions. They cannot force you to disclose private medical information. Legally, the whole thing hinges on "self-disclosure" - people just answering when asked casually - which they know and have been quite successfully exploiting and keeping quiet. Once disclosed the cat is out of the bag and they can require proof. Outside of the US it may be different.
If you wish to "play the game" but avoid submitting fully, and you are at a location and in an occupation that still permits it, your best bet is a religious exemption. Don't go into detail and don't answer unnecessary questions. Simply state that it is against your firmly held religious beliefs. Everything beyond is private and you don't wish to disclose for fear of discrimination.
But really...
The most sensible and dignified thing to do is look for other sources of income. Why would you work for people who think you need their permission to not be forced into unwanted medical procedures? For that matter, why would you remain under a jurisdiction that allows and enables this?
There are other ways to make money, and other places to be.
[ + ] Whatthefuck
[ - ] Whatthefuck 1 point 3.0 yearsMay 13, 2022 13:12:21 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] MasklessTheGreat
[ - ] MasklessTheGreat 1 point 3.0 yearsMay 13, 2022 13:18:48 ago (+1/-0)
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[ + ] Nashorn
[ - ] Nashorn [op] 0 points 3.0 yearsMay 13, 2022 14:05:38 ago (+0/-0)
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[ + ] derpfroot
[ - ] derpfroot 1 point 3.0 yearsMay 13, 2022 15:41:23 ago (+1/-0)
https://archive.is/WvuNv
http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=62538
https://swprs.org/israel-highest-infection-rate-in-the-world/
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CDC Admits Holocough-Vaxxed at Greater Risk of "Severe Disease" from the early shots:
https://files.catbox.moe/zflw3i.mp4
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Israel is the highest vaxxed ...AND they have the highest infection rate?
https://swprs.org/israel-highest-infection-rate-in-the-world/
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https://www.dailyveracity.com/2022/01/23/shock-thousands-on-twitter-regret-getting-the-vaccine-side-effects-worse-than-covid/
https://goodsciencing.com/covid/athletes-suffer-cardiac-arrest-die-after-covid-shot/
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20211208/CDC-study-shows-risk-of-Guillain-Barre-syndrome-elevated-after-Ad26COV2S-COVID-vaccination.aspx
https://expose-news.com/2021/12/29/triple-vaccinated-10-times-more-likely-to-catch-omicron/
https://djhjmedia.com/rich/japanese-study-says-young-people-are-40-times-as-likely-to-die-from-vaccines-than-from-covid/
In UK:
https://dailysceptic.org/2022/01/29/vaccine-effectiveness-against-death-falls-to-zero-or-below-ukhsa-data-suggest/
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/revealed-thousands-of-double-jabbed-over-50-s-have-died-in-the-last-4-weeks-190548036.html
[ + ] derpfroot
[ - ] derpfroot 1 point 3.0 yearsMay 13, 2022 15:45:47 ago (+1/-0)
https://aaronsiri.substack.com/p/whistleblower-fda-and-cdc-ignore-3e2?s=r
https://aaronsiri.substack.com/p/study-destroys-justification-for?s=r
[ + ] giantprick
[ - ] giantprick 1 point 3.0 yearsMay 13, 2022 16:00:16 ago (+1/-0)
You could ask if you need the vaccine plus another unending series of boosters
You can have very hard conversations with them about liability and the reasonable chance of a negative reaction from the virus
Idk just have balls
[ + ] Leveraction
[ - ] Leveraction 1 point 3.0 yearsMay 13, 2022 17:20:54 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Leveraction
[ - ] Leveraction 1 point 3.0 yearsMay 13, 2022 17:26:26 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] i_scream_trucks
[ - ] i_scream_trucks 1 point 3.0 yearsMay 13, 2022 20:12:08 ago (+1/-0)
fucksakes
[ + ] Terraeri1
[ - ] Terraeri1 1 point 3.0 yearsMay 13, 2022 21:01:35 ago (+1/-0)
Maybe you should move.
[ + ] account deleted by user
[ - ] account deleted by user 1 point 3.0 yearsMay 13, 2022 22:51:17 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Not_C
[ - ] Not_C 1 point 3.0 yearsMay 14, 2022 00:07:26 ago (+1/-0)
You trust the science. And the science says that people who get the injections will still catch and spread Covid, but they are far less likely to know when they are infected and contagious. Because the injections make their symptoms less severe.
Demand that every vaxxed person take a daily Covid test. Because that's the only way to know if they are infected and contagious. Meanwhile, you don't need to take one unless you have symptoms. - Your coworkers will be more than happy to do it if it saves just one life and keeps everyone safe.
You will continue to stay un-vaxxed, (because unlike the selfish vaxxed people), you are more than willing to suffer through a few days of the sniffles if it prevents you from unknowingly infecting others.
Remember - You trust the science. And the science says that injected people still catch and spread Covid. They're just less likely to know they are murdering others because they don't have symptoms.
[ + ] xmasskull
[ - ] xmasskull 1 point 2.9 yearsMay 20, 2022 20:59:54 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Steelerfish
[ - ] Steelerfish 0 points 3.0 yearsMay 13, 2022 19:57:21 ago (+0/-0)
Computers can transmit the virus and infect your fellow work at home coworkers.
It should wear a mask too.
[ + ] Kozel
[ - ] Kozel 0 points 3.0 yearsMay 13, 2022 20:20:57 ago (+0/-0)