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I was never anti-vax until now.

submitted by Thatguy to whatever 3.0 yearsJun 30, 2022 17:35:49 ago (+39/-1)     (whatever)

I believed in vaccines, malaria, yellow fever, cholera, etc. I got all the shots! I did not die. I scrubbed around in the world in the worst of the worst.I literally rolled in shit to save my life. And here I am. With a bullet proof immune system. I can eat a taco from a cart in Mexico and be fine. I can eat a bowl of rice in bali and be just fine. I lived on army food for weeks. I am not going to take that shot. It’s insane!


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[ - ] deleted 35 points 3.0 yearsJun 30, 2022 17:37:50 ago (+35/-0)

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[ - ] Hermes 12 points 3.0 yearsJun 30, 2022 21:19:56 ago (+12/-0)

it is an MRNA experimental gene therapy that has never been used on humans before and only tested on rats where they were all killed for examination without allowing them to age naturally.....I believe that is what I have learned about the death shot

[ - ] Clubberlang 10 points 3.0 yearsJun 30, 2022 21:25:37 ago (+10/-0)

Let's call it what it is. It's a bioweapon.

[ - ] aer9ERub 2 points 3.0 yearsJun 30, 2022 23:29:55 ago (+2/-0)

It took a few attempts for the thread to arrive at the correct conclusion but the Hive Mind does not fail often.

[ - ] NedsHead 0 points 3.0 yearsJul 1, 2022 07:30:42 ago (+0/-0)

Just like niggers

[ - ] oldblo 1 point 3.0 yearsJul 1, 2022 10:28:41 ago (+1/-0)

Lets not forget the person who invented it said it was no good.
They slandered him and censored him. Even called him an ignorant spreader of misinformation and conspiracy theories. As if they knew better than he about his own creation.
I dont recall. I know they wanted to make "misinformation and conspiracy theories" criminal and globohomo did a massive purge. Did they actually ever manage to make it a crime to disagree with the approved narrative on things not mentioning jews?

[ - ] Thatguy [op] 11 points 3.0 yearsJun 30, 2022 17:42:35 ago (+11/-0)

It’s like calling a trans person a woman. Instead of a mentally Ill man. There is hope they can be fixed. But not by Jews.

[ - ] albatrosv15 0 points 3.0 yearsJul 1, 2022 01:02:46 ago (+0/-0)

Why did you capitalize jews?

[ - ] Thatguy [op] 1 point 3.0 yearsJul 1, 2022 01:47:28 ago (+1/-0)

Because I don’t care. Nobody tells me what to do. Plus autocorrect is owned by jews. Dammit! I had to go back and fix the j.

[ - ] 867530nein 0 points 3.0 yearsJul 1, 2022 08:41:32 ago (+0/-0)

Only God tells you that to do right? Not the government!

[ - ] Thatguy [op] 0 points 3.0 yearsJul 1, 2022 08:45:07 ago (+0/-0)

No, god is love. God loves us all. Love god and you have your answer.

[ - ] Clubberlang 8 points 3.0 yearsJun 30, 2022 21:24:56 ago (+8/-0)

They literally held your job above your head until you took it or got fired because it's so safe and effective. The employers were just doing their jobs!

[ - ] Hall_of_Cost 4 points 3.0 yearsJun 30, 2022 23:49:22 ago (+4/-0)

Well said, it is a bioweapon.

Employers here were saying, "If we get 75% jabbed everyone will get a 500 dollar bonus!"

This obviously caused people to pressure their co-workers.

[ - ] Ragnar 0 points 3.0 yearsJul 1, 2022 00:47:32 ago (+0/-0)

Good point broski

[ - ] Clubberlang 0 points 3.0 yearsJul 3, 2022 23:19:59 ago (+0/-0)

Thanks brah

[ - ] WhiteCollarCriminal 1 point 3.0 yearsJul 1, 2022 03:11:26 ago (+1/-0)

They changed the definition of pandemic half way thru.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 16 points 3.0 yearsJun 30, 2022 18:06:03 ago (+17/-1)

I was fairly pro vax for awhile. Until about 5 years ago, when I decided to research whether there was anything to the theory that MMR was causing autism. And I was pretty skeptical. But I changed my mind almost immediately, because it turns out there’s tons of support for that happening and there is a perfectly rational explanation for the mechanism that is causing neurological damage in vaccinees.

The immune system is extremely complicated and autoimmune disease is often triggered by immune challenges, including vaccines. Auttoimmune diseases can destroy people’s lives and sometimes kill them.

And as we’ve seen with the covid vax, there are other adverse effects like clotting, heart damage, and there may be more adverse events to come such as cancer and neurodegenerative disease. Viral antigens cause cellular damage which increases the risk for these conditions.

And leakey vaccines can select for more resistant viral strains, similar to the phenomenon of bacterial antibiotic resistance. Delta was the vaccine strain. The vax selected for Delta.

Im not against vaccines and I think select vaccines may be worth the trade offs in some countries for some conditions. The rubella vaccine basically eliminated deafness in children afaik.

But theyve jumped the shark with all these shots. Most are unnecessary and people need good unbiased analysis on which vaccines are worth the risk and which aren’t. And that will never come from the fda or the cdc.

They are making people sick. They are killing people and they don’t even care.

[ - ] Spaceman84 5 points 3.0 yearsJun 30, 2022 18:47:46 ago (+5/-0)

So were the antivax nuts of years past (Jenny Mccarthy and Jim Carrey) onto something or was the CIA frontrunning by making antivaxxers look like kooks?

[ - ] PostWallHelena 6 points 3.0 yearsJun 30, 2022 22:05:51 ago (+6/-0)

No, they were right. 1 in a thousand babies gets siezures from mmr. Theyve basically never done a serious randomized study to show that mmr doesn’t cause autism.

There is basically no question as far as Im concerned that MMR causes autism because its doing it in a way that measles itself can cause autism in about 1 in 5 or 10 thousand cases— through immune driven brain inflamation. The question in my mind is, how often does mmr cause autism? It could be really rare like 1 in 50,000 but I think its more likely to be 1 in 100 or maybe more.

Normally measles infections are introduced through the GI tract. In MMR the virus is live and can go directly to your brain.

Its definitely not bullshit. I could go on about other kinds of vaccines because they all have their unique risks and problems. But the CDC and FDA have been totally tyrannical and reckless and have been assassinating people’s character’s for questioning the wisdom of ther vaccine policy since well before covid.

Thats why I told everyone I knew to hold off on the covid vaccination for a few months to see if others were getting injured— the regulatory agencies already were proven liars in my book

[ - ] SecretHitler 4 points 3.0 yearsJun 30, 2022 19:19:13 ago (+4/-0)

Vaccine criticism used to be very tame and was along the lines of "there seems to be a pattern of side effects, let's make this public knowledge and trust the doctors to deal with it" my first introduction to shills was the reaction from doctors and the medical industry to them. Rabid personal attacks mostly, and then a couple years later you started seeing anti-vax "crazies" showing up and being very disruptive where people were just trying to compare data and have normal conversations about if there was something to be concerned about.

My eventual takeaway was that some vaccines are probably overkill, some are probably important, and that too much of them too early in life almost certainly causes developmental issues. So basically choose only the most important ones and make sure you space them out and delay getting them compared to what doctors push in most cases.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 8 points 3.0 yearsJun 30, 2022 21:29:05 ago (+8/-0)

How do you choose when the data is not made available? How do you choose when they refuse to fund even a single longterm randomized controlled study on a vaccine like mmr or dtap?

[ - ] TheYiddler 3 points 3.0 yearsJul 1, 2022 00:26:37 ago (+3/-0)

Studies are garbage. All of them. Studies cost money and they only get funded AND published if the result can be monetized. What studies aren't done or aren't published are more important.

We're stuck with passion project statistical analysis of aggregate data and that's it.

[ - ] SecretHitler 2 points 3.0 yearsJun 30, 2022 21:44:43 ago (+2/-0)*

I don't have a good answer, and I'm not redpilled on mmr, but one approach would be to just do the ones that were standard in the 70s or 80s. I don't have numbers handy but from memory back then it was just a few where now they try to give you like 30

I think there are tradeoffs and risk either way. Some probably are a good idea and that's why they're used to promote the garbage.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 4 points 3.0 yearsJun 30, 2022 22:16:32 ago (+4/-0)

And also why do we keep having to get all these shots? Many of these diseases have been wiped out in the us, only to get reintroduced over and over and over. By the shitskins that moved here and go back to shitholistan once a year and bring a present back with them.

And basically all the polio cases in the last 15 or 20 years have been traced back to the vaccine variants, which means that the vaccine is pretty much the only source of the disease now.

And alot of these diseases are whore diseases, like hpv and hbv. Slutty people like niggers will get it but decent white people are not at risk. Liberals want us to suffer for their liabilities.

[ - ] SecretHitler 1 point 3.0 yearsJul 4, 2022 03:13:15 ago (+1/-0)

That's a good point about shitskins coming and going. Especially with illegal aliens where so many come from countries where we're supposed to get extra shots just to go there because of diseases that are so serious and we're helpless against them, but leftist retards want to just let them all in without any checks and fly them all over the place.

I never really considered the whore diseases/vaccines like that either, and to make it worse now you have a medical "authority" basically implying how degeneracy is "normal" and "healthy".

[ - ] Ragnar 0 points 3.0 yearsJul 1, 2022 00:53:48 ago (+0/-0)

I generally dislike most of the shit you say, but you are making good points on this thread. Now run along and make me a nice sandwiched cake, grandma

[ - ] Ragnar 0 points 3.0 yearsJul 1, 2022 00:59:21 ago (+0/-0)

I generally dislike most of the shit you say, but you are making good points on this thread. Now run along and make me a nice sandwiched cake, grandma

[ - ] Native 0 points 3.0 yearsJul 1, 2022 13:05:10 ago (+0/-0)

You need to start researching Terrain theory. Germ theory is a hoax.

[ - ] deleted 3 points 3.0 yearsJun 30, 2022 23:50:44 ago (+3/-0)

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[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 3.0 yearsJul 1, 2022 09:16:34 ago (+0/-0)

That’s a terrible argument. A trained physician is certainly in the position to avail himself of all the research on autism and other immunilogocal conditions. If I can understand some of the subject matter with a moderate amount of research, so can a doctor.

That’s just the sort of thing they said all through covid. “So and so doesn’t have the right certificate to decide whether hydroxychorloquine is working or whether the vax is safe”. Anthony Fauci has the most certificates. Obey the Fauci.

They went after that whitfield guy. It was a witchhunt just all the doctors they went after during covid. A trillion dollars of their money is at stake. The scientific establishment is totally corrupt. But your big problem is “he’s a gastro guy”. Do some skeptical research for yourself but don’t discount the guy over that.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 3.0 yearsJul 1, 2022 09:24:30 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 3.0 yearsJul 1, 2022 09:26:08 ago (+1/-0)

MEOW!

[ - ] deleted 0 points 3.0 yearsJul 1, 2022 11:26:11 ago (+0/-0)

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[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 3.0 yearsJul 1, 2022 14:55:05 ago (+0/-0)

Increased levels of certification are now associated with woke compliance and corruption. “Muh expert” is their favorite argument for dismissing well researched dissent. The problem is the bureaucracy which is beyond rehabilitation and cannot be relied upon for assessing physicians based on skill. Stop relying on some jewish cachet for whether or not to believe someone.

As a gastroenterologist, whitfield had a theory about why autistic kids had higher levels of inflamatory bowel issues. I don’t even know if he discovered that fact, but its not in dispute and it’s not anything a vrologist would pick up on. He formulated a theory and they destroyed his career because of it. No one is allowed to discuss such a theory or they will be viciously attacked and destroyed. Sound like honest scientific inquiry is alive and well to you? Not to me!

We found out how virologists make a living in the last two years, didn’t we? Have you ever been referred to a virologist?! Neither have I, neither has anyone. Thats because virologists work for governments MAKING NEW VIRUSES! The big secret of virology! Guys like Ralph Baric made millions of dollars laying the groundwork for the creation of SARS COV 2 using humanized mice and CRISPR technology. I wouldn’t trust a virologist to walk my dog. They are a criminal enterprise. A racket. Specialists! They just killed 10 million people.

[ - ] Clubberlang 1 point 3.0 yearsJun 30, 2022 21:28:17 ago (+1/-0)

They are making people sick. They are killing people and they don’t even care.

Part of the WEF ethos.

[ - ] SilentByAssociation 14 points 3.0 yearsJun 30, 2022 17:45:45 ago (+14/-0)

That fact that all vaccines damage the body is a big pill to swallow. Even a lot of anti-COVID-vaxxers still believe in all other vaccines.

Someone posted an interesting video of Cold War scientists who were killed off... and the same happens to individuals in the medical industry even today. The knowledge they have is groundbreaking, and their deaths are too conspicuous.

[ - ] Thatguy [op] 6 points 3.0 yearsJun 30, 2022 18:02:16 ago (+6/-0)

I’ve taken every shot ever invented. I’ve been shoved off into terrible places to fight. I like fighting. Diseases were rampant. And horrible. I survived. I saw my fellows fall to these diseases. It’s hard to describe. I’m not going to take this shot, it’s suicide.

[ - ] Clubberlang 1 point 3.0 yearsJun 30, 2022 21:29:45 ago (+1/-0)

I like fighting.

Same here can't beat green lights and diplomatic immunity.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 3.0 yearsJul 2, 2022 01:05:56 ago (+1/-0)

I am now envisoning you as “The Fall Guy” after all these descriptions.

I would say that basically every vaccine has the potential to harm someone and some seem to be more dangerous than others and the risk may vary with genetics. Its clear there are some people with a higher genetic risk for autoimmune diseases and that’s certainly one of the main risks from vaccines. Theyve identified certain genes already that predispose people to multiple autoimmune conditions. Also women are far more vulnerable to those disorders. So being a guy helps for certain risks. And I predict you don’t have alot of autoimmune disease in your family.

But this particular vax is really different. The way its distributed and produced in the body is unpredictable and no one knows what sort of shit the spike protein can do to cells. We could get a cancer epidemic in 5 or 10 years from this shit.

[ - ] deleted 0 points 3.0 yearsJun 30, 2022 18:10:20 ago (+4/-4)

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[ - ] temetnosce 9 points 3.0 yearsJun 30, 2022 18:01:09 ago (+9/-0)

The only one that has me concerned now is the "Tetanus" shot. Never got covid or the clot shot. I quit the flu shot years ago because, useless. I work on old cars, rusty, and work in the garden, dirt. I always got my 10 year tetanus booster. I am old(er) now. I don't think I will ever get another shot, including the tetanus shot.

[ - ] Love240 1 point 3.0 yearsJul 1, 2022 00:28:08 ago (+1/-0)

I was at work and got bitten by a dog about 4 years ago, I refused the rabies/tetanus shot at the urgent care. I'm done with their scientism.

[ - ] Clubberlang 0 points 3.0 yearsJun 30, 2022 21:30:48 ago (+0/-0)

Which cars you got?

[ - ] aer9ERub 0 points 3.0 yearsJun 30, 2022 23:31:03 ago (+0/-0)

Y, that's the one where lack-of gives me the skivs too. But I think I'll take my chances.

[ - ] texasblood 7 points 3.0 yearsJun 30, 2022 18:28:21 ago (+7/-0)

SIDS is vax fallout.
This shit shit isn't new

[ - ] con77 6 points 3.0 yearsJun 30, 2022 19:14:19 ago (+6/-0)

1 in 62 boys born in the US is autistic

[ - ] Clubberlang 3 points 3.0 yearsJun 30, 2022 21:31:33 ago (+3/-0)

Now Generation gay makes more sense.

[ - ] deleted 4 points 3.0 yearsJun 30, 2022 22:22:18 ago (+4/-0)

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[ - ] Thatguy [op] 2 points 3.0 yearsJun 30, 2022 22:23:28 ago (+2/-0)

My life was never on the line.

[ - ] Scyber 4 points 3.0 yearsJun 30, 2022 19:13:31 ago (+4/-0)

I don't know about sketchy taco carts in Mexico. They're already crummy here in the states.

[ - ] VicariousJambi 2 points 3.0 yearsJul 1, 2022 10:33:58 ago (+2/-0)

[ - ] Irelandlost 2 points 3.0 yearsJul 1, 2022 07:43:36 ago (+2/-0)

I’m still not anti-vaccine. There’s loads of countries I wouldn’t go near without the appropriate shots. But it does not logically follow from the fact I’m happy to take vaccines with long track records of success that I should automatically take anything and everything else that is described as a vaccine. Nor does it logically follow that my desire to be immunised against things like rabies and hep a in regions where these diseases are prevalent that I should also desire immunisation against diseases that pose little to no risk to me.

[ - ] AngryWhiteKeyboardWarrior 2 points 3.0 yearsJul 1, 2022 06:46:13 ago (+2/-0)

Same here. Was totally fine with vaccines before. I even joked about anti-vaxxers on Fecesbook 10-12 years ago once.

Now I don't trust any of their shit. I don't even trust doctors and nurses anymore.

[ - ] UncleDoug 2 points 3.0 yearsJul 1, 2022 04:21:47 ago (+2/-0)

Most vaccines are good.

mRNA death shot is not a vaccine.

Critical thinking OP, you can do it!

[ - ] boekanier 2 points 3.0 yearsJul 1, 2022 03:35:52 ago (+2/-0)

there are vaccines and vaccines. The latest vaccine was something else than a vaccine.

[ - ] TrannyHunter 2 points 3.0 yearsJun 30, 2022 23:13:33 ago (+2/-0)

Spouse grew up poor...shack w/outhouse poor. He was in the military and later traveled for work all over the world. Ate from every street cart in several countries including Jakarta. He's almost never sick.

[ - ] Thatguy [op] 2 points 3.0 yearsJun 30, 2022 23:17:01 ago (+2/-0)

I think it was alcohol sometimes. But a street taco is the best thing you could ever eat. Delicious and perfect for the moment.

[ - ] Ragnar 0 points 3.0 yearsJul 1, 2022 00:59:58 ago (+0/-0)

Are you a thai ladyboy?

[ - ] EAT_MY_ASS_FUCKFACE 2 points 3.0 yearsJun 30, 2022 21:43:23 ago (+2/-0)

Absolutely stupid post, but I love it. Good for you for being reasonable.

[ - ] Thatguy [op] 2 points 3.0 yearsJun 30, 2022 23:22:54 ago (+2/-0)

Not going to argue. I can be stupid with the best of them.

[ - ] rhy 1 point 3.0 yearsJul 1, 2022 07:18:56 ago (+1/-0)

All vaccines are toxic. They cause MOST of the current public health problems we see in the public. Other than obesity related illness.

[ - ] Conspirologist 1 point 3.0 yearsJul 1, 2022 03:56:20 ago (+1/-0)

Covid vaxx is fake. Anti-vaxx has nothing to do with it.

[ - ] Warden 1 point 3.0 yearsJul 1, 2022 01:25:06 ago (+1/-0)

I don’t trust typical vaccines, there’s no reason to trust them, especially once you realize so many of the people involved in pushing them are very evil people, who often put profits above health, not to mention the fact that many of them were/are into eugenics.

Now we have the same eugenicist assholes trying to convince us that we need to become Genetically Modified Humans simply because people are catching a cold that is no more deadly than any other if you’re not 70+ years old? Nah, that shit doesn’t add up to anything other than they intend to harm you in some way.

[ - ] Warden 1 point 3.0 yearsJul 1, 2022 01:02:35 ago (+1/-0)*

I caught on a year or so after this study came out, can’t remember where I came across it but it drastically changed my view of vaccines from that moment forward.
https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/106/6/1307

“Vaccination does NOT account for the impressive declines in mortality seen in the first half of the century…Nearly 90% of the decline in infectious disease mortality among US children occurred before 1940, when few antibiotics or vaccines were available.”

Annual Summary of Vital Statistics: Trends in the Health of Americans During the 20th Century,
Journal of American Academy of Pediatrics, December 2000.

CITATION
Bernard Guyer, MD, Mary Anne Freeman, MA, Donna M. Strobino, PhD, Edward J. Sondik, PhD. Pediatrics, Dec 2000, Vol. 106, No. 6.

People don’t realize that every one of the most common diseases that vaccines took credit for eradicating, or for lessening case numbers greatly, were all in decline before widespread vaccination programs came about. The decline directly followed nationwide upgrades to sanitation and water treatment, which is most definitely what led to the declines. Polio still exists in several African communities despite years of mass vaccination campaigns, and that’s because they have no sanitation or water treatment to keep the sewage carrying polio virus out of the water they drink.
https://files.catbox.moe/asiweu.jpeg

[ - ] iocane 1 point 3.0 yearsJun 30, 2022 21:14:13 ago (+1/-0)

I traveled around the world and I didn't take any vaccines(other then what mom and dad pumped into me when I was a baby).

If the malaria side effects didn't scare you off than I'm surprised you're not one of the covidiots.

[ - ] Thatguy [op] 1 point 3.0 yearsJun 30, 2022 21:19:52 ago (+1/-0)

Your mom and dad cared about you. They got you the soup. Most diseases just happen but, some you just have to go seek out, gonnorrhea!

[ - ] iocane 0 points 3.0 yearsJun 30, 2022 21:38:30 ago (+0/-0)

I know they meant well. I don't fault them for it now.

I wasn't a sex tourist so definitely was spared from some shit you might want to vax up for.

[ - ] Clubberlang 1 point 3.0 yearsJun 30, 2022 21:32:49 ago (+1/-0)

Likewise and whatever military cocktail prior to shooting sand niggers

[ - ] ItsOk2bArian 1 point 3.0 yearsJun 30, 2022 19:03:45 ago (+1/-0)

I would like to hear more about the rolling in shit to save your life story. That sounds interesting as I can't imagine the scenario

[ - ] Clubberlang 2 points 3.0 yearsJun 30, 2022 21:34:01 ago (+2/-0)

Shit rolls down hill. The end.

[ - ] ItsOk2bArian 0 points 3.0 yearsJul 1, 2022 14:52:07 ago (+0/-0)

Cool story bro

[ - ] Clubberlang 0 points 3.0 yearsJul 3, 2022 23:18:34 ago (+0/-0)

Breh

[ - ] xmasskull 1 point 3.0 yearsJun 30, 2022 20:58:07 ago (+1/-0)

I'll just bet,you want pics as proof.

[ - ] ItsOk2bArian 0 points 3.0 yearsJul 1, 2022 14:59:01 ago (+0/-0)

Yeah, as proof, that's it, not for any other darker dirtier reasons, just proof

[ - ] Ragnar 0 points 3.0 yearsJul 1, 2022 00:46:13 ago (+0/-0)

I have an excellent immune system, but I will not touch anything in Mexico or bali with a six foot pole. In fact, I will never even visit those dirty dangerous places. What’s wrong with you?

[ - ] paul_neri -1 points 3.0 yearsJun 30, 2022 20:46:35 ago (+0/-1)

Why not?

[ - ] Thatguy [op] 4 points 3.0 yearsJun 30, 2022 21:08:44 ago (+4/-0)

It was rushed into production, not scientifically evaluated, has no effect on the virus, the side effects are horrible and is being concealed.. that’s why.