Heres how it will play out on a long enough timeline for those bartering, growing their own food to avoid the clotshots, and attempting to pull away from the regime rather than face them and bring them down:
eventually they'll put it in the feed so raising beefs, milk cows, and chickens won't matter.
grow your own feed and they'll figure out how to put it into the ground water and fertilizer/pesticide.
Refuse to use those and they'll simply add it as a jet fuel additive and crop dust your ass.
This "parallel economy/society" bullshit is a regime-op wrt that suspiciously kike-looking guy running gab (iceagefarmer, et al). Isn't it terribly convenient how none of them have been shut down? Or did the warnings, years prior, that the regime would revert to "civic nationalism" (i.e. fake christian populism/natalism) fall on deaf ears?
This is that.
If they can kill a president (jfk), sink a warship (u.s.s. liberty), bomb and kill 5000 people (911), create an insurrection and imprison a thousand people without trial (J6), then they can create a fake populist movement as well.
Heres your message of the day:
You do not win a war by retreating or disengaging from the enemy.
It buys time while everyone gets poorer. When everybody is really poor, they will not have power. Then you knock it over with a feather. Everyones got to get poor. Then the most self sufficient will win.
[ - ] prototype [op] 1 point 2.2 yearsApr 11, 2023 09:21:04 ago (+1/-0)
It buys time while everyone gets poorer.
It buys time for who? The people or the regime?
Then they pull out the world war card to eliminate a generation (and rinse and repeat) or they pull out the 'great white hope' card and solidify control.
What is needed is the utter take down of the regime media (both the mainstream like tv, and tech sector). SVB going down was a good start, but insufficient. Most of the action here I think was infighting between factions (west coast regime vs east coast regime, i.e. DC vs Thiel et al). Thats good for everyone of course and we should examine the mechanism that kickstarted that infighting, if only to multiply the frequency and impact of the effect going forward.
The economy front is a false front precisely because like so many others it is co-opted. The real fight is in the cities, and incidentally, what caused the most damage? The tech sector, silicon valley, ostensibly the cities.
The intersection of banking and technology is the most exploitable social fracture of the neoliberal/neocon regime that can be used as a wedge to bring them down. The biggest threat is any 'direct threat' to the viability of the regime because the entire premise of the regime is that it is unchallengeable. Every effort of theirs has been at projecting an image of invulnerability. Which guarantees some element of them is vulnerable. And what have we seen with russia's defiance for example? To assail the image of the idol, is to assail the idol itself. And as the regime has been challenged, it has become increasingly unstable precisely because everything in the system is so tightly wound, so tightly dependent on such a narrow margin of operation, that even the smallest deviation threatens it. We talk in abstractions about "houses of cards" and miss the purpose of the metaphor entirely:
There need not be any great effort to topple it. Many, small efforts combine, like a light breeze, can and will bring it down, if there is the political, and social will to do it. A retreat to the spiritual is just a replay of the anti-bolshevik movement, its just more reactionaries missing the noose around their necks. Deciding to stack the deck and standing on a taller set of blocks, that you made, rather than the state did, or making your own rope from hemp you grew on your own farm, isn't gonna save you when the regime kicks those blocks out from under your feet.
The caveat is all of it only works by direct action. The regime comes down no other way.
Under the circumstances, the anarchists were right.
The people who wish to resist the regime but not commit suicide.
You can starve to death. Or attack the regime kamikaze style.
Or you can support and participate inthe regime like a good little slave.
Or you can withdraw from the regime as much as possible and wait for more and more people to do the same until it collapses.
You have to wait out the regime. We dont have the numbers for a revolution.
<What is needed is the utter take down of the regime media (both the mainstream like tv, and tech sector).
There doesnt appear to be a will for that.
Every effort of theirs has been at projecting an image of invulnerability.
Every cop and soldier believes in that image and they will murder you toute de suite if you try any “utter take downs” at this point. Im all for “any means” but I do not see an opportunity right now for anything but economic tactics and counter propaganda.
The people who wish to resist the regime but not commit suicide.
Maybe you're misunderstanding, or maybe I haven't explained well enough.
You have the means, right now, at your disposal, right now, to take down the regime. Thats the entire premise. That the will and the way is already there.
So many are misidentifying "direct action" with "militant action". This is incorrect. What I am saying is the regime is defacto vulnerable, to non-militant methods and strategies--that a strategy of tension is currently being pursued by the state because it sees no other way of controlling the population and maintaining power over such a large and diverse set of territories. And that rather than participate in this strategy, we should merely find ways of enhancing and encouraging it, while co-opting it. To do other wise is to hand them victory on a silver platter, and we should have no intention of allowing that.
Mere militarism plays to the strength of the regime. However being 'militantly' political, and social, harms the regime, because the refusal to fight them in the domain where they are strong (the refusal to fight them physically) also refuses them the excuse to employ their soldiers and weapons legitimately. Every crackdown we provoke, alienates the population from the regime. Every lockdown we provoke delegitimizes the state further. Every overreaching law and policy leads to a subsequent increase in people mass-refusing cooperation with those policies and officials.
Here is where you organize, on that front. Here is where you employ strategy, and tactics, and counter-intelligence methodologies.
Politics is not merely who you vote for, and if anything thats the least effective (if not counter-effective) approach. Social action is not mere organizing street protests, and if anything thats the least effective (if not counter-effective) approach.
Both of these are entire spectrums of actions and activities, to which the regime can, under pressure, only increase the militarism of its responses against us.
What I mean to say, is we should make it an explicit goal on the one hand of tricking the regime into destroying itself, not on the world stage, but internally as well, and on the otherhand, explicitly organize, not merely a single organization, but an entire movement of organizations, offering an alternative to fill the vacuum.
I have not claimed their won't be risks.
Only that this path forward is what it will take to win, both short term, and long term--and that it is the only path that will assure victory and the defeat and take over of the existing regime.
A political and social "revolt", within the bounds of the law, a total and complete one, forcing the regime to play by its own rules, to its own defeat, the final demise of its own credibility. Our institutions are being discredited even now, both by internal factions, and external powers, and what I am suggesting is none other than co-opting this very process.
[ - ] prototype [op] 1 point 2.2 yearsApr 11, 2023 10:36:36 ago (+1/-0)
parallel economy
I'm not against it per se, what I am against is holding actions, which, if not in design, then in practice, will be transformed into a single-source-of-hope to keep us complacent. Hope is insufficient and complacency is death. And these things are what will be used against us, to great affect. I know this, as certain as I know the sun will rise tomorrow, because this has been the playbook in the past, and so it will be again.
Prepping is becoming a way of life, and when something transforms into that, we always lose track of the reasons for changing how we live. It is a story as old as time. Contrary to the belief that "one system naturally replaces another", what I have seen, upon close examination of all the instances offered, was great, directed struggle and strife between competing systems.
If we enter into a new system in the mere hope that it will eventually become popular and replace the old as the old fails, we open ourselves to being co-opted and repeating the cycle of oligarchy.
What becomes the next system, the 'new thing', is not a matter of natural law, or mere happenstance, neither divinity alone nor appeal to mere inevitability--it is by direct human intervention, by an effort of concerted human will that trends, movements, faiths, principalities, powers, and nations come to be.
Slaves hope for a better world. Hope to be handed a better world. Hope and wait.
Free people choose. They choose to make a better future, through determination and effort.
If you cannot survive on making and storing your own food after a retreat, what hope do you think you have fighting this beast?
We have to really honestly take a look at ourselves and ask, what do we really have control over?
You'll find it's very little. We've got these grand ideas about, "Well this group of people, they'll stand up, they swore an oath." And, "White people are waking up!"
No they're not. They put up with the most in your face, retarded, ridiculous shit over these last 3 years and what do we have to show for it?
Well, you sure as hell don't win by running in unprepared before your time to strike has come.
You tell us how that's going to fix this overarching evil that is imposing itself on us.
If you cannot survive on making and storing your own food after a retreat, what hope do you think you have fighting this beast?
You're talking of hope on one end, and logistics on the other. Your premise only works if you assume the will to win, in aggregate, isn't there. And I assert that the will to win is there. Your very discussion of it shows that at the least, you yourself have the will to win.
What do we have control of? Thats the operative question here. It's logistics. The fight has up to this time always been about time. Buying more time. Biding time. It is a fight of attrition. Some argue we are winning, and there are good reasons to believe that. Some argue we are losing, and there are also good arguments to believe that. But both of these are incorrect because they're missing something:
Our ultimate strategy, the approach the citizens of the regime will use, at this time is to out-wait the state and its collapse, or to prepare the groundwork for effectively mass-refusing enforcement of unlawful policies from an illegitimate ruling regime.
By waiting "for the right time", the regime is given a golden opportunity: it can itself prepare, in a non-reactionary fashion, a better snare/system, or else find a means of neutralizing the movement. Alternatively, it can hand off control to a proxy regime, much like what happened during the chinese civil war, where the losing faction acceded and became the taiwanese government (or howthe japanese, defeated in naval combat, covertly agreed to surrender and covered up details of the bombing of japan by the u.s. in exchange for maintaining nominal control of their territory).
In this case, the mere toppling of the regime, rather than a proper take over of it, will invite a power vacuum, and a subsequent struggle, which we will also lose.
Therefore mere attrition cannot be an effective strategy here.
Inasmuch as we are mislabeled insurrectionists, (discounting tongue-in-cheek "frog in pocket" comments) we must affect a political or social takeover of the existing regime, utterly and completely. It must be swift, lawful, and complete in affect. There is no other path to victory.
See I still see waiting it out as the superior current strategy. We have advantages the Chinese and Japanese didn't have. Such as a much higher level of freedom and autonomy that makes it hard for TPTB to continue an encroach in the instance of mass disobedience.
Guns being #1. But prep on a level the world has scarcely seen before. This storm has been brewing for decades.
Yeah, best laid plans of mice and men. Those fuckers are going to throw everything and the kitchen sink at us. But hold your horses, because if there is a time to ride, you don't want to jump the gun and be the poor sap whose made the example of.
Yeah, best laid plans of mice and men. Those fuckers are going to throw everything and the kitchen sink at us. But hold your horses,
You can wait till they do, and lose, or you can work to amplify social and political instability everywhere you go, and help put the regime on its backfoot when its achilles heel has proverbially been cut.
Never wait for the enemy to take the fight to you.
Within the bounds of the law, forcing them to play by their own rules, you should do this: Organize, and to best of your ability, resist.
But if you really find yourself that convinced of action, go for it, I'll watch for your obituary (or something else, God willing, who knows)
If organizing politically and socially leads to my death, then I will still follow that path. And you must decide whether you prefer to exist as a slave, or struggle, and risk it all, to live as a free man. I cannot make that decision for you, but I see your struggle as my struggle.
you're stuck in the either/or paradigm. I'm saying the strategy, which was popularized by the enemy for a specific reason, is useful, but has a limited lifetime.
Understand that, and know what the off-ramp is, and what that means to you. By all means, continue farming, but develop alternatives, instead of simply being able to count on retreating forever.
I have been actively fucking the system for a long while.
Then go about your business. But assume your strategy will either not work forever, or itself be shutdown somehow in the future. Do not get put on your backfoot, do not allow the regime to put you into a reactionary position. Be prepared.
[ - ] Taxedtv 1 point 2.2 yearsApr 11, 2023 11:01:34 ago (+1/-0)
Every man who wishes to stand against this must be willing to pay the ultimate price. You stop complying in every conceivable way you can, when they come for you, at minimum be able to take one of them with you - bonus points for more. If millions of us do this, they hold no power. It’s a simple numbers game.
If you don’t do this, your fate is the same but you die a coward.
It's true that the elite will try to make it impossible not to eat the VAX, but that doesn't mean you should just give in. Farmers are part of the resistance and people who live off the land are typically hella based. The people homesteading their own food are buying more time to resist. What are you doing that's better than that?
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 6 points 2.2 yearsApr 11, 2023 08:57:45 ago (+6/-0)
[ + ] prototype
[ - ] prototype [op] 1 point 2.2 yearsApr 11, 2023 09:21:04 ago (+1/-0)
It buys time for who? The people or the regime?
Then they pull out the world war card to eliminate a generation (and rinse and repeat) or they pull out the 'great white hope' card and solidify control.
What is needed is the utter take down of the regime media (both the mainstream like tv, and tech sector). SVB going down was a good start, but insufficient. Most of the action here I think was infighting between factions (west coast regime vs east coast regime, i.e. DC vs Thiel et al). Thats good for everyone of course and we should examine the mechanism that kickstarted that infighting, if only to multiply the frequency and impact of the effect going forward.
The economy front is a false front precisely because like so many others it is co-opted.
The real fight is in the cities, and incidentally, what caused the most damage? The tech sector, silicon valley, ostensibly the cities.
The intersection of banking and technology is the most exploitable social fracture of the neoliberal/neocon regime that can be used as a wedge to bring them down. The biggest threat is any 'direct threat' to the viability of the regime because the entire premise of the regime is
that it is unchallengeable. Every effort of theirs has been at projecting an image of invulnerability.
Which guarantees some element of them is vulnerable.
And what have we seen with russia's defiance for example? To assail the image of the idol, is to assail the idol itself.
And as the regime has been challenged, it has become increasingly unstable precisely because everything in the system is
so tightly wound, so tightly dependent on such a narrow margin of operation, that even the smallest deviation threatens it.
We talk in abstractions about "houses of cards" and miss the purpose of the metaphor entirely:
There need not be any great effort to topple it. Many, small efforts combine, like a light breeze, can and will bring it down, if there is the political, and social will to do it. A retreat to the spiritual is just a replay of the anti-bolshevik movement, its just more reactionaries missing the noose around their necks. Deciding to stack the deck and standing on a taller set of blocks, that you made, rather than the state did, or making your own rope from hemp you grew on your own farm, isn't gonna save you when the regime kicks those blocks out from under your feet.
The caveat is all of it only works by direct action. The regime comes down no other way.
Under the circumstances, the anarchists were right.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 3 points 2.2 yearsApr 11, 2023 09:36:36 ago (+3/-0)
The people who wish to resist the regime but not commit suicide.
You can starve to death. Or attack the regime kamikaze style.
Or you can support and participate inthe regime like a good little slave.
Or you can withdraw from the regime as much as possible and wait for more and more people to do the same until it collapses.
You have to wait out the regime. We dont have the numbers for a revolution.
<What is needed is the utter take down of the regime media (both the mainstream like tv, and tech sector).
There doesnt appear to be a will for that.
Every cop and soldier believes in that image and they will murder you toute de suite if you try any “utter take downs” at this point. Im all for “any means” but I do not see an opportunity right now for anything but economic tactics and counter propaganda.
[ + ] prototype
[ - ] prototype [op] 2 points 2.2 yearsApr 11, 2023 09:58:32 ago (+2/-0)
Maybe you're misunderstanding, or maybe I haven't explained well enough.
You have the means, right now, at your disposal, right now, to take down the regime. Thats the entire premise.
That the will and the way is already there.
So many are misidentifying "direct action" with "militant action". This is incorrect. What I am saying is the regime is defacto vulnerable, to non-militant methods and strategies--that a strategy of tension is currently being pursued by the state because it sees no other way of controlling the population and maintaining power over such a large and diverse set of territories. And that rather than participate in this strategy, we should merely find ways of enhancing and encouraging it, while co-opting it. To do other wise is to hand them victory on a silver platter, and we should have no intention of allowing that.
Mere militarism plays to the strength of the regime. However being 'militantly' political, and social, harms the regime, because the refusal to fight them in the domain where they are strong (the refusal to fight them physically) also refuses them the excuse to employ their soldiers and weapons legitimately. Every crackdown we provoke, alienates the population from the regime. Every lockdown we provoke delegitimizes the state further. Every overreaching law and policy leads to a subsequent increase in people mass-refusing cooperation with those policies and officials.
Here is where you organize, on that front. Here is where you employ strategy, and tactics, and counter-intelligence methodologies.
Politics is not merely who you vote for, and if anything thats the least effective (if not counter-effective) approach. Social action is not mere organizing street protests, and if anything thats the least effective (if not counter-effective) approach.
Both of these are entire spectrums of actions and activities, to which the regime can, under pressure, only increase the militarism of its responses against us.
What I mean to say, is we should make it an explicit goal on the one hand of tricking the regime into destroying itself, not on the world stage, but internally as well, and on the otherhand, explicitly organize, not merely a single organization, but an entire movement of organizations, offering an alternative to fill the vacuum.
I have not claimed their won't be risks.
Only that this path forward is what it will take to win, both short term, and long term--and that it is the only path that will assure victory and the defeat and take over of the existing regime.
A political and social "revolt", within the bounds of the law, a total and complete one, forcing the regime to play by its own rules, to its own defeat, the final demise of its own credibility. Our institutions are being discredited even now, both by internal factions, and external powers, and what I am suggesting is none other than co-opting this very process.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 3 points 2.2 yearsApr 11, 2023 10:18:50 ago (+3/-0)
As more people withdraw from the economy and become self-sufficient, it should only hasten the death of the regime.
Really we must form a parallel culture wiphich includes a separate economy and social movements.
[ + ] prototype
[ - ] prototype [op] 1 point 2.2 yearsApr 11, 2023 10:36:36 ago (+1/-0)
I'm not against it per se, what I am against is holding actions, which, if not in design, then in practice, will be transformed into a single-source-of-hope to keep us complacent. Hope is insufficient and complacency is death. And these things are what will be used against us, to great affect. I know this, as certain as I know the sun will rise tomorrow, because this has been the playbook in the past, and so it will be again.
Prepping is becoming a way of life, and when something transforms into that, we always lose track of the reasons for changing how we live. It is a story as old as time. Contrary to the belief that "one system naturally replaces another", what I have seen, upon close examination of all the instances offered, was great, directed struggle and strife between competing systems.
If we enter into a new system in the mere hope that it will eventually become popular and replace the old as the old fails, we open ourselves to being co-opted and repeating the cycle of oligarchy.
What becomes the next system, the 'new thing', is not a matter of natural law, or mere happenstance, neither divinity alone nor appeal to mere inevitability--it is by direct human intervention, by an effort of concerted human will that trends, movements, faiths, principalities, powers, and nations come to be.
Slaves hope for a better world. Hope to be handed a better world. Hope and wait.
Free people choose. They choose to make a better future, through determination and effort.
All else is magical thinking.
[ + ] NaturalSelectionistWorker
[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 1 point 2.2 yearsApr 11, 2023 10:52:27 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] prototype
[ - ] prototype [op] 1 point 2.2 yearsApr 11, 2023 12:19:48 ago (+1/-0)*
You. I like you.
[ + ] Deleted
[ - ] deleted 0 points 2.2 yearsApr 11, 2023 11:24:40 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] prototype
[ - ] prototype [op] 0 points 2.2 yearsApr 11, 2023 12:19:09 ago (+1/-1)
nope, and nope. However your emotional reaction to this post tells me I'm over the target.
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[ - ] deleted 0 points 2.2 yearsApr 11, 2023 13:21:37 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] prototype
[ - ] prototype [op] 0 points 2.2 yearsApr 11, 2023 13:44:15 ago (+0/-0)
nope, and nope.
nope. never have, never will.
nope. never have, never will.
nope.
Stay mad, pharisee. Your temple will never be rebuilt. I and men like me, will assure that.
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 4 points 2.2 yearsApr 11, 2023 09:24:20 ago (+4/-0)
We have to really honestly take a look at ourselves and ask, what do we really have control over?
You'll find it's very little. We've got these grand ideas about, "Well this group of people, they'll stand up, they swore an oath." And, "White people are waking up!"
No they're not. They put up with the most in your face, retarded, ridiculous shit over these last 3 years and what do we have to show for it?
Well, you sure as hell don't win by running in unprepared before your time to strike has come.
You tell us how that's going to fix this overarching evil that is imposing itself on us.
[ + ] prototype
[ - ] prototype [op] 0 points 2.2 yearsApr 11, 2023 09:36:15 ago (+1/-1)*
You're talking of hope on one end, and logistics on the other. Your premise only works if you assume the will to win, in aggregate, isn't there. And I assert that the will to win is there. Your very discussion of it shows that at the least, you yourself have the will to win.
What do we have control of? Thats the operative question here. It's logistics.
The fight has up to this time always been about time. Buying more time. Biding time.
It is a fight of attrition. Some argue we are winning, and there are good reasons to believe that. Some argue we are losing, and there are also good arguments to believe that. But both of these are incorrect because they're missing something:
Our ultimate strategy, the approach the citizens of the regime will use, at this time is to out-wait the state and its collapse, or to prepare the groundwork for effectively mass-refusing enforcement of unlawful policies from an illegitimate ruling regime.
By waiting "for the right time", the regime is given a golden opportunity: it can itself prepare, in a non-reactionary fashion, a better snare/system, or else find a means of neutralizing the movement.
Alternatively, it can hand off control to a proxy regime, much like what happened during the chinese civil war, where the losing faction acceded and became the taiwanese government (or howthe japanese, defeated in naval combat, covertly agreed to surrender and covered up details of the bombing of japan by the u.s. in exchange for maintaining nominal control of their territory).
In this case, the mere toppling of the regime, rather than a proper take over of it, will invite a power vacuum, and a subsequent struggle, which we will also lose.
Therefore mere attrition cannot be an effective strategy here.
Inasmuch as we are mislabeled insurrectionists, (discounting tongue-in-cheek "frog in pocket" comments) we must affect a political or social takeover of the existing regime, utterly and completely. It must be swift, lawful, and complete in affect. There is no other path to victory.
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 5 points 2.2 yearsApr 11, 2023 09:49:42 ago (+5/-0)
Guns being #1. But prep on a level the world has scarcely seen before. This storm has been brewing for decades.
Yeah, best laid plans of mice and men. Those fuckers are going to throw everything and the kitchen sink at us. But hold your horses, because if there is a time to ride, you don't want to jump the gun and be the poor sap whose made the example of.
[ + ] prototype
[ - ] prototype [op] 0 points 2.2 yearsApr 11, 2023 10:25:33 ago (+0/-0)
You can wait till they do, and lose, or you can work to amplify social and political instability everywhere you go, and help put the regime on its backfoot when its achilles heel has proverbially been cut.
Never wait for the enemy to take the fight to you.
Within the bounds of the law, forcing them to play by their own rules, you should do this:
Organize, and to best of your ability, resist.
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 2 points 2.2 yearsApr 11, 2023 10:30:20 ago (+2/-0)
Merely your lack of participation is enough to destabilize a certain quanta surrounding you.
But if you really find yourself that convinced of action, go for it, I'll watch for your obituary (or something else, God willing, who knows)
[ + ] prototype
[ - ] prototype [op] 0 points 2.2 yearsApr 11, 2023 10:39:04 ago (+1/-1)
If organizing politically and socially leads to my death, then I will still follow that path.
And you must decide whether you prefer to exist as a slave, or struggle, and risk it all, to live as a free man.
I cannot make that decision for you, but I see your struggle as my struggle.
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 0 points 2.2 yearsApr 11, 2023 21:13:10 ago (+0/-0)
These factory explosions and food factory burnings aren't slowing down and we can't do anything to stop it.
The sickness in this country is terminal.
I don't see another alternative but to separate and work on that 'new society' like your life depends on it, because it will.
And truth be told, I still don't expect to live through this, but only that I can say to God with clean conscience that I did not give up the faith.
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[ - ] deleted 1 point 2.2 yearsApr 11, 2023 13:43:22 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] prototype
[ - ] prototype [op] 0 points 2.2 yearsApr 11, 2023 13:46:20 ago (+0/-0)
Understand that, and know what the off-ramp is, and what that means to you.
By all means, continue farming, but develop alternatives, instead of simply being able to count on retreating forever.
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[ - ] deleted 0 points 2.2 yearsApr 11, 2023 13:52:28 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] prototype
[ - ] prototype [op] 0 points 2.2 yearsApr 11, 2023 13:54:27 ago (+0/-0)
Then go about your business. But assume your strategy will either not work forever, or itself be shutdown somehow in the future. Do not get put on your backfoot, do not allow the regime to put you into a reactionary position. Be prepared.
[ + ] Taxedtv
[ - ] Taxedtv 1 point 2.2 yearsApr 11, 2023 11:01:34 ago (+1/-0)
If you don’t do this, your fate is the same but you die a coward.
[ + ] NaturalSelectionistWorker
[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 1 point 2.2 yearsApr 11, 2023 10:51:01 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] prototype
[ - ] prototype [op] 0 points 2.2 yearsApr 11, 2023 11:02:38 ago (+0/-0)
Telling you, explicitly, de facto, how to win instead of simply buying more time.
And risking my neck doing it.