Little bit of both. Sure, we’re all sinners, but that’s irrelevant to the topic of discussion. Women who fuck around can’t pair bond anymore. It’s a nigh-immutable biological reality, and so the health of a nation is only preserved through virgin marriages. We can’t extra-contextually quote the Bible to excuse any given behavior, otherwise we collapse into modern judaism.
Makes sense to me. Frankly I trust your opinion over most.
Seems it's a no-win situation either way as far as I'm concerned.
Stay the course, and I'll die alone. There are no virgin women lol.
Deviate and exercise leniency, and I'll have to live with knowing the chick I'm with has already fucked x amount of guys before me and as you said cannot pair bond.
Either way seems to be disappointing, but at least in dying alone my slate is clean and I won't be something akin to a cuck.
I don’t know of any time in history when things had gotten even half this bad and the men of the nation hadn’t already hanged their government and killed the people responsible for the social ills, honestly.
[ - ] PhantomXLII [op] 1 point 2.2 yearsApr 22, 2023 15:48:18 ago (+1/-0)
So you'd say it doesn't really matter whether they're virgins or not.
Because, from where I'm sitting, with the way I was raised and learned from church and just watching others, seems to me like non-virgins are really just bad news and I'm really averse to the idea of getting with a chick who's fucked some other guy. It's just repulsive to me.
Which is a big reason why I gave up looking 5 or so years ago. There aren't any good ones.
But lately I've been wondering if perhaps I'm wrong and while a slut is still a slut and worthless, perhaps I should lighten up on those who perhaps made mistakes when they were younger once or twice, or those who may have been with one guy for years and did the deed, but that relationship didn't work out.
I'm not sure if I'm being an uppity prick thinking any non-virgins who fucked outside of marriage are hostiles or if there's a certain happy medium in there.
I don't think you're wrong. Especially at 24, man, you've got so much time to grow into the man you're going to be, you don't need to unequally yoke yourself to a woman who hasn't taken her life as seriously as you have taken yours.
This guy has some good perspectives for Christian men.
At first glance, and no offense intended at all, this just looks like a channel that's "dude dating advice bro!" but with a Christian spin on it. Another grifter set and ready to reap that ad revenue that just started up, basically.
Though I could be wrong. Don't judge a book by its cover and all that.
Picked one, landed on "10 reasons why God is not revealing the right woman for you". We'll see what happens.
[ - ] Gowithit 1 point 2.2 yearsApr 22, 2023 17:40:58 ago (+1/-0)
I'm so glad you're thinking about not giving up!!!!
Where a virgin would be nice and I hope that happens for you I don't think a girl that was taken advantage of should be punished for the rest of her life.
If the girl has a high number obviously not but every case is different.
Did you find a girl? Who is she? Is she the one sister of your student?
I'm so glad you're thinking about not giving up!!!!
There's no going back on that. Too old and far too little experience for my age.
I don't think a girl that was taken advantage of should be punished for the rest of her life.
Neither do I, and there's those that willingly do it but were pressured into it because, well, us gentlemen are stupid fucks and sometimes do ungentlemanly things.
Where a virgin would be nice and I hope that happens for you
Lol. I'm in the US. That only happens for high school guys or pedophiles.
If the girl has a high number obviously not but every case is different.
Right. It's actually what sort of sparked the initial question that led to me wondering what y'all think. Found out a girl I sub for did the deed with her boyfriend. They've been dating a few years, boyfriend acts like a nice guy generally but I've heard he's a fucking asshole to the girl. I believe it too. Guy's a senior, star athlete wannabe, about to graduate, I'm sure you get the idea. Girl is a junior, good kid, total stick though. Like 90lbs. and maybe 5'3".
Basically, easy to pressure into stuff. And I'd bet about tree fiddy that he took her somewhere and pressured her to do it in his truck. She basically hated herself afterward I heard, which actually makes sense thinking about it now because the other day she looked real fucking depressed. Tried talking to her and got the usual "I hate you" reaction and proceeded to get my head bit off. Good kid!
SO... There's situations like that where I can't say in good conscience that I'd demand punishment. Shit happens, people make mistakes.
Did you find a girl? Who is she? Is she the one sister of your student?
😂😂😂 Absolutely not. No, I haven't felt anything in years. As far as "the one sister"... Not sure what you mean there. Unless, well, there is one student who has a sister a year older than me. She's been with a dude for awhile though, no contact with her anyway. There's also another sister she has who is two years younger that's been married almost a year now.
But no, no girls. Frankly even if I found a decent one it wouldn't matter anyway. What do I have that no other guy has? Not a thing. So I'm at best a free meal. At worst? Someone to loathe. Realistically? Invisible. One of a million, not in a million. No, that ship sailed. Then it caught fire and sank for some reason... Bad luck I suppose. Or lack of safety features. Terrible engineering? Who knows.
It depends on the non-virgin. Here's the thing. A female who has had sex has a lessened ability to pair bond. However, a male who excludes non-virgin prospects has a far less chance of any kind of relationship with a female.
There's a big difference in whether they were sexing every guy in sight, or if they had a few boyfriends that didn't work out. People, especially kids, make mistakes. It's how you move on from those that makes all the difference.
Take this as hearsay. I read a statistic recently claiming that 12% of females are virgins when they marry.
This guy (posted earlier) has some solid life advice I recommend, even though no mention of (((the bigger picture))). If you want to be 'in society' and successful, check him out.
[ - ] PhantomXLII [op] 1 point 2.2 yearsApr 22, 2023 20:33:12 ago (+1/-0)
It depends on the non-virgin.
I suppose that's really the answer here. A slut is a slut, but a girl who made a mistake? Got pressured into doing something she actually didn't want to? Total different thing.
A female who has had sex has a lessened ability to pair bond. However, a male who excludes non-virgin prospects has a far less chance of any kind of relationship with a female.
Well yeah. Look at me. Almost 24 and I'm at exactly zero because of that standard. Hell, I stopped looking 4 or 5 years ago once I hit college. I'd seen everything I needed to see.
But then I think... How many women had fucked around in Weimar and ended up being awesome wives during the Reich? It's not like Germany just shot every girl or guy who fucked around. Got rid of whores and whatnot, yeah, but that's the plan anyway.
So, while pair bonding is important, it may not be the be all end all like I've been thinking. I'm just reanalyzing my position on this subject, really.
There's a big difference in whether they were sexing every guy in sight, or if they had a few boyfriends that didn't work out. People, especially kids, make mistakes. It's how you move on from those that makes all the difference.
We all make mistakes, really. I think you're right here.
Take this as hearsay. I read a statistic recently claiming that 12% of females are virgins when they marry.
Probably like 5% now.
I'll give that guy a look. Due to the nature of my job being in society just comes with it, so I may as well see about getting what I can out of society, right?
Edit: Son of a bitch I just ended two sentences close to each other with "really". What the fuck kind of stupid fuck am I? Good Lord... You'd think speakin prop'r Anglish'd make me awful fuckin good at it brother.
[ - ] Sector7 1 point 2.2 yearsApr 22, 2023 21:20:44 ago (+1/-0)*
So, while pair bonding is important, it may not be the be all end all like I've been thinking.
It's important and even ideal, but with a girl who otherwise is an excellent match for you and all your characteristics, less important than your ability to be the man in her life. I recommended that youtube guy because from just one video, I can see he gets it. If you can become the man you should be, you can overcome a lot of adverse circumstances and be the rock in your females life.
so I may as well see about getting what I can out of society, right?
For you, I agree. Not everyone needs to become fully blackpilled. Even if non-virgin, a man who can fully be "the man" in a relationship can 'rehabilitate' the right female who found it with you for the first time. Be wary of the females who've been corrupted. At the same time, don't auto-dismiss everyone who made and regrets past mistakes.
Hope that helps. And btw, you yourself seem to be doing better than you were back on old voat. Maybe in 25 years or so you'll have a son who's following his dreams, whatever those may be. https://files.catbox.moe/6sebge.mp4
[ - ] PhantomXLII [op] 1 point 2.2 yearsApr 22, 2023 22:39:40 ago (+1/-0)
Take my perspective with a grain of salt, because I remember where I was when I heard Kennedy was shot.
Gotcha.
(2nd grade, about two rows from the front in the middle of the classroom - teacher burst into tears when us kids started finger gun shooting each other)
Good Lord y'all were fucking savages. 😂
It's important and even ideal, but with a girl who otherwise is an excellent match for you and all your characteristics, less important than your ability to be the man in her life.
Makes sense. "Silly to throw something away because one thing is out of place" kind of mentality.
Even if non-virgin, a man who can fully be "the man" in a relationship can 'rehabilitate' the right female who found it with you for the first time.
But there's also "can't turn a whore into a housewife".
Be wary of the females who've been corrupted. At the same time, don't auto-dismiss everyone who made and regrets past mistakes.
Essentially what you're saying is I should act with discernment. Kill the whores by all means but spare the repentant. I suppose that's fair, considering Sky Dad does much the same.
Hope that helps.
Somewhat, yes. I'm sort of cognitive dissonance-ing myself because if I change my outlook on this subject I will effectively be admitting that I missed what otherwise would have been viable opportunities years ago in high school and college.
However, that's not to say those opportunities would have turned out well anyway, and my life of abstinence has allowed me a certain advantage in that I can't miss something I've never had in the first place. Relationships, sex, all of that is practically foreign to me. It's just a concept, or idea.
And btw, you yourself seem to be doing better than you were back on old voat.
Yes and no. Part of it was because I was miserable and constantly stressed in college. Another bit was because I sorta knew that my life was not heading in a good direction despite my wants.
Now things are going well enough as far as my personal life is concerned. Began training for real estate appraisal work about two weeks ago, and was promised a minimum 30% split which will go up to 70% once I'm doing work by myself. That's fucking insane, because most trainees are lucky to get a 30% split ever, 50% to 70% once they're licensed and certified.
So, by next year, I very well could be making about what would be a $70k yearly salary if I have that 70% split. My mentor makes six figures, about $105k. Takes home $75k. Freaking awesome numbers for Oklahoma.
It's right where I'm shooting for. If I'm making that money by myself, well... Hell, money won't be an issue unless I'm an idiot and buy a $700k house and $100k car. And that ain't happening. I learned early to be responsible with money, living through the '08-'12 years helped with that, seeing as I was about 8-12 years old at the time. Prime formative years. Old enough to understand, young enough to be fucking traumatized. 😂
Still, girls are off the table. Almost 24 now, and I've got fuck all experience. Asked a few out and got turned down back in HS. Whoopie doo. No woman's looking for someone like me, and frankly I don't have anything that no other man has. Practically invisible, all things considered.
If I wasn't such a moralist fuck and didn't care about getting with a girl who is a virgin, things would've been different. But no, doing what's right comes first, because in a way that's all I've got left.
But the question I'm asking, at least on this topic, is what is right? Christ forgave the (accused-to-be) whore on the spot and made little issue of it, whereas things such as faggotry and pedophilia are outright said to be abominations or worthy of death.
Perhaps it's one of those things where it's a good ideal to strive for, but it isn't and shouldn't be a deal breaker in most situations. Sluts and whores are still pathetic however.
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[ + ] PhantomXLII
[ - ] PhantomXLII [op] 1 point 2.2 yearsApr 22, 2023 15:42:21 ago (+1/-0)
Oh, and hi. It's been awhile man.
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[ - ] Tallest_Skil 1 point 2.2 yearsApr 22, 2023 22:42:54 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] PhantomXLII
[ - ] PhantomXLII [op] 0 points 2.2 yearsApr 22, 2023 22:53:51 ago (+0/-0)
Seems it's a no-win situation either way as far as I'm concerned.
Stay the course, and I'll die alone. There are no virgin women lol.
Deviate and exercise leniency, and I'll have to live with knowing the chick I'm with has already fucked x amount of guys before me and as you said cannot pair bond.
Either way seems to be disappointing, but at least in dying alone my slate is clean and I won't be something akin to a cuck.
[ + ] Tallest_Skil
[ - ] Tallest_Skil 1 point 2.2 yearsApr 22, 2023 23:42:14 ago (+1/-0)
I don’t know of any time in history when things had gotten even half this bad and the men of the nation hadn’t already hanged their government and killed the people responsible for the social ills, honestly.
[ + ] PhantomXLII
[ - ] PhantomXLII [op] 0 points 2.2 yearsApr 22, 2023 23:44:43 ago (+0/-0)
Oh well.
[ + ] PhantomXLII
[ - ] PhantomXLII [op] 1 point 2.2 yearsApr 22, 2023 15:48:18 ago (+1/-0)
Because, from where I'm sitting, with the way I was raised and learned from church and just watching others, seems to me like non-virgins are really just bad news and I'm really averse to the idea of getting with a chick who's fucked some other guy. It's just repulsive to me.
Which is a big reason why I gave up looking 5 or so years ago. There aren't any good ones.
But lately I've been wondering if perhaps I'm wrong and while a slut is still a slut and worthless, perhaps I should lighten up on those who perhaps made mistakes when they were younger once or twice, or those who may have been with one guy for years and did the deed, but that relationship didn't work out.
I'm not sure if I'm being an uppity prick thinking any non-virgins who fucked outside of marriage are hostiles or if there's a certain happy medium in there.
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 0 points 2.2 yearsApr 22, 2023 23:42:53 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] PhantomXLII
[ - ] PhantomXLII [op] 0 points 2.2 yearsApr 22, 2023 23:46:46 ago (+0/-0)
Now I suppose I'm fortunate. I have no idea what I'm missing out on. It's all a foreign idea to me.
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 0 points 2.2 yearsApr 23, 2023 00:08:44 ago (+0/-0)
For perspective I'm 37 and and single, take what you glean to the Lord.
[ + ] PhantomXLII
[ - ] PhantomXLII [op] 0 points 2.2 yearsApr 23, 2023 00:29:50 ago (+0/-0)
At first glance, and no offense intended at all, this just looks like a channel that's "dude dating advice bro!" but with a Christian spin on it. Another grifter set and ready to reap that ad revenue that just started up, basically.
Though I could be wrong. Don't judge a book by its cover and all that.
Picked one, landed on "10 reasons why God is not revealing the right woman for you". We'll see what happens.
[ + ] PhantomXLII
[ - ] PhantomXLII [op] 0 points 2.2 yearsApr 23, 2023 00:33:47 ago (+0/-0)
Sorry man, I'm out on this guy.
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 0 points 2.2 yearsApr 23, 2023 00:47:32 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] PhantomXLII
[ - ] PhantomXLII [op] 0 points 2.2 yearsApr 23, 2023 01:00:50 ago (+0/-0)
Clicked your link, clicked videos, scrolled to "10 reasons God keeps some men single who want marriage"
Watched until 1:17, race mixing on full display.
You were only trying to help. No fault in it.
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[ + ] Gowithit
[ - ] Gowithit 1 point 2.2 yearsApr 22, 2023 17:40:58 ago (+1/-0)
Where a virgin would be nice and I hope that happens for you I don't think a girl that was taken advantage of should be punished for the rest of her life.
If the girl has a high number obviously not but every case is different.
Did you find a girl? Who is she? Is she the one sister of your student?
[ + ] PhantomXLII
[ - ] PhantomXLII [op] 0 points 2.2 yearsApr 22, 2023 20:18:06 ago (+0/-0)
There's no going back on that. Too old and far too little experience for my age.
Neither do I, and there's those that willingly do it but were pressured into it because, well, us gentlemen are stupid fucks and sometimes do ungentlemanly things.
Lol. I'm in the US. That only happens for high school guys or pedophiles.
Right. It's actually what sort of sparked the initial question that led to me wondering what y'all think. Found out a girl I sub for did the deed with her boyfriend. They've been dating a few years, boyfriend acts like a nice guy generally but I've heard he's a fucking asshole to the girl. I believe it too. Guy's a senior, star athlete wannabe, about to graduate, I'm sure you get the idea. Girl is a junior, good kid, total stick though. Like 90lbs. and maybe 5'3".
Basically, easy to pressure into stuff. And I'd bet about tree fiddy that he took her somewhere and pressured her to do it in his truck. She basically hated herself afterward I heard, which actually makes sense thinking about it now because the other day she looked real fucking depressed. Tried talking to her and got the usual "I hate you" reaction and proceeded to get my head bit off. Good kid!
SO... There's situations like that where I can't say in good conscience that I'd demand punishment. Shit happens, people make mistakes.
😂😂😂 Absolutely not. No, I haven't felt anything in years. As far as "the one sister"... Not sure what you mean there. Unless, well, there is one student who has a sister a year older than me. She's been with a dude for awhile though, no contact with her anyway. There's also another sister she has who is two years younger that's been married almost a year now.
But no, no girls. Frankly even if I found a decent one it wouldn't matter anyway. What do I have that no other guy has? Not a thing. So I'm at best a free meal. At worst? Someone to loathe. Realistically? Invisible. One of a million, not in a million. No, that ship sailed. Then it caught fire and sank for some reason... Bad luck I suppose. Or lack of safety features. Terrible engineering? Who knows.
[ + ] Sector7
[ - ] Sector7 2 points 2.2 yearsApr 22, 2023 18:29:40 ago (+2/-0)
There's a big difference in whether they were sexing every guy in sight, or if they had a few boyfriends that didn't work out. People, especially kids, make mistakes. It's how you move on from those that makes all the difference.
Take this as hearsay. I read a statistic recently claiming that 12% of females are virgins when they marry.
https://www.youtube.com/@BedrosKeuilian/videos
This guy (posted earlier) has some solid life advice I recommend, even though no mention of (((the bigger picture))). If you want to be 'in society' and successful, check him out.
[ + ] Gowithit
[ - ] Gowithit 1 point 2.2 yearsApr 22, 2023 19:29:22 ago (+1/-0)
That sounds better than taken advantage of. Im changing my answer to this.
[ + ] Sector7
[ - ] Sector7 0 points 2.2 yearsApr 22, 2023 19:40:03 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] PhantomXLII
[ - ] PhantomXLII [op] 1 point 2.2 yearsApr 22, 2023 20:33:12 ago (+1/-0)
I suppose that's really the answer here. A slut is a slut, but a girl who made a mistake? Got pressured into doing something she actually didn't want to? Total different thing.
Well yeah. Look at me. Almost 24 and I'm at exactly zero because of that standard. Hell, I stopped looking 4 or 5 years ago once I hit college. I'd seen everything I needed to see.
But then I think... How many women had fucked around in Weimar and ended up being awesome wives during the Reich? It's not like Germany just shot every girl or guy who fucked around. Got rid of whores and whatnot, yeah, but that's the plan anyway.
So, while pair bonding is important, it may not be the be all end all like I've been thinking. I'm just reanalyzing my position on this subject, really.
We all make mistakes, really. I think you're right here.
Probably like 5% now.
I'll give that guy a look. Due to the nature of my job being in society just comes with it, so I may as well see about getting what I can out of society, right?
Edit: Son of a bitch I just ended two sentences close to each other with "really". What the fuck kind of stupid fuck am I? Good Lord... You'd think speakin prop'r Anglish'd make me awful fuckin good at it brother.
Looks like that ain't the case here.
[ + ] Sector7
[ - ] Sector7 1 point 2.2 yearsApr 22, 2023 21:20:44 ago (+1/-0)*
It's important and even ideal, but with a girl who otherwise is an excellent match for you and all your characteristics, less important than your ability to be the man in her life. I recommended that youtube guy because from just one video, I can see he gets it. If you can become the man you should be, you can overcome a lot of adverse circumstances and be the rock in your females life.
For you, I agree. Not everyone needs to become fully blackpilled. Even if non-virgin, a man who can fully be "the man" in a relationship can 'rehabilitate' the right female who found it with you for the first time. Be wary of the females who've been corrupted. At the same time, don't auto-dismiss everyone who made and regrets past mistakes.
Hope that helps. And btw, you yourself seem to be doing better than you were back on old voat. Maybe in 25 years or so you'll have a son who's following his dreams, whatever those may be. https://files.catbox.moe/6sebge.mp4
[ + ] Gowithit
[ - ] Gowithit 1 point 2.2 yearsApr 22, 2023 21:48:10 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] PhantomXLII
[ - ] PhantomXLII [op] 1 point 2.2 yearsApr 22, 2023 22:39:40 ago (+1/-0)
Gotcha.
Good Lord y'all were fucking savages. 😂
Makes sense. "Silly to throw something away because one thing is out of place" kind of mentality.
But there's also "can't turn a whore into a housewife".
Essentially what you're saying is I should act with discernment. Kill the whores by all means but spare the repentant. I suppose that's fair, considering Sky Dad does much the same.
Somewhat, yes. I'm sort of cognitive dissonance-ing myself because if I change my outlook on this subject I will effectively be admitting that I missed what otherwise would have been viable opportunities years ago in high school and college.
However, that's not to say those opportunities would have turned out well anyway, and my life of abstinence has allowed me a certain advantage in that I can't miss something I've never had in the first place. Relationships, sex, all of that is practically foreign to me. It's just a concept, or idea.
Yes and no. Part of it was because I was miserable and constantly stressed in college. Another bit was because I sorta knew that my life was not heading in a good direction despite my wants.
Now things are going well enough as far as my personal life is concerned. Began training for real estate appraisal work about two weeks ago, and was promised a minimum 30% split which will go up to 70% once I'm doing work by myself. That's fucking insane, because most trainees are lucky to get a 30% split ever, 50% to 70% once they're licensed and certified.
So, by next year, I very well could be making about what would be a $70k yearly salary if I have that 70% split. My mentor makes six figures, about $105k. Takes home $75k. Freaking awesome numbers for Oklahoma.
It's right where I'm shooting for. If I'm making that money by myself, well... Hell, money won't be an issue unless I'm an idiot and buy a $700k house and $100k car. And that ain't happening. I learned early to be responsible with money, living through the '08-'12 years helped with that, seeing as I was about 8-12 years old at the time. Prime formative years. Old enough to understand, young enough to be fucking traumatized. 😂
Still, girls are off the table. Almost 24 now, and I've got fuck all experience. Asked a few out and got turned down back in HS. Whoopie doo. No woman's looking for someone like me, and frankly I don't have anything that no other man has. Practically invisible, all things considered.
If I wasn't such a moralist fuck and didn't care about getting with a girl who is a virgin, things would've been different. But no, doing what's right comes first, because in a way that's all I've got left.
But the question I'm asking, at least on this topic, is what is right? Christ forgave the (accused-to-be) whore on the spot and made little issue of it, whereas things such as faggotry and pedophilia are outright said to be abominations or worthy of death.
Perhaps it's one of those things where it's a good ideal to strive for, but it isn't and shouldn't be a deal breaker in most situations. Sluts and whores are still pathetic however.
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[ - ] Ragnar 1 point 2.2 yearsApr 23, 2023 00:46:45 ago (+1/-0)