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What does it mean to "fight" against a system you believe is thoroughly corrupt and tyrannical?

submitted by AntiPostmodernist to whatever 1.8 yearsJul 9, 2023 11:24:00 ago (+7/-1)     (whatever)

A.) "Waking people up" or "changing minds" - Ok, everyone else is now aware of what you are, now what? I doesn't make a difference on it's own.

Plus, you are assuming people AREN'T aware of it all by now, I think if you'd ask around in any dystopic society you will find most are fully cognizant of what's going on, but either ignore it all or are exactly like you, in the exact same position of wanting things to change, but not knowing how to change them.

B.) Peaceful Protests, Civil Disobedience, Boycotts, Strikes - utterly ineffective, as we've seen, even holding the supply chain hostage does nothing to change the minds of a system that feels secure in it's power. They will use their media to turn public opinion against you, or to create the impression that the public dislikes you, an they will simply use their monopoly on force to shut you down when you are too irritating to bear.

C.) Lawsuits and Elections. - Even less effective, lawsuits are dismissed by bought courts without even being heard, elections are shamelessly rigged because nobody in power gives a fuck about hiding that your leaders were chosen by those already nested in the establishment.

D.) Leaks and Whistleblowing - Does nothing, same as the first example.

E.) Run away and establish another parallel society - they will come for you once they are done with everyone else, and you will be too helpless and alone to stop them.

So what's the solution lets look at the two most popular examples of how a people could peacefully change an oppressive system:

MLK - Credit goes to Stalin, as the USA was preparing for war with Russia they could not afford to deal with a civil conflict at home. Additionally, those changes were already in the works within the US government, so it's less "the system being changed by those outside of it" and more "the system changing itself while outsiders act as cheerleaders". For a final dab on this example, we now know that MLK and his followers were both working with domestic terrorists and also had ties to the communist party. Domestic terror was the more effective means to implementing systemic change, MLK was little more than their PR guy who put a more friendly face on their cause.

Gandhi - This guy's success could be better attributed to the coming war with Hitler, again Britian was unwilling to tolerate any bullshit at home while they were getting ready to fight their neighbors, and it was already loosing it's colonies on it's own accord.

Yeah, so peaceful protest and civil disobedience works only when its for a change the establishment was planning on making already, and if there was some leader of another country who was planning on going to war with the one which you were protesting against.

Not quite the best argument for continuing down those paths, huh? So what is the solution? Is there one?


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[ - ] x0x7 -1 points 1.8 yearsJul 9, 2023 13:55:50 ago (+0/-1)

Stop using their money.

[ - ] AntiPostmodernist [op] 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 9, 2023 14:57:29 ago (+0/-0)*

Tried starting something by getting people into trading with bottlecaps. Got banned from certain marketplace sites and a letter telling me to cut that shit out, setting up alternative currencies that actively compete with the national tender is not looked upon fondly by the government.

Apparently it's not a new idea to try and set up an alternative currency in this way or another, but the government does what it can to prevent it, they don't even want a chance that something else would come along as a medium of exchange to supplant the state dollar. The memes are real, you do NOT want to fuck around with the IRS or equivalent institution.

Bitcoin and crypto were another attempt but look at the state of things now, the government does know how to take control over things like this, and what they cannot control they shut down. Look at what happened to silk road and dread pirate rogers.

If we are to stand a chance, we got to pre-emptively find a solution for them trying to shut us down or assume control over our parallel economies. Grey markets and direct barter are a liminal area where they are willing to tolerate activity UNTIL it becomes an issue for the government, then they have the full power behind them to protect the state's economic integrity from domestic terrorists trying to sabotage it (economic terrorism), or some dorks who are compromising it while seeking their own fortunes.

[ - ] TheSimulacra -1 points 1.8 yearsJul 9, 2023 15:49:01 ago (+0/-1)

You might want to look up the definition of real money, before you try to create a money system.

Lol
BOTTLECAPS?

You think this is Fallout or some shit?

How about we trade in Pedo Scalps.

[ - ] AntiPostmodernist [op] 1 point 1.8 yearsJul 9, 2023 17:00:47 ago (+1/-0)*

"How would we know they come from real pedos unless they SEE the pedo?"

"Because they will LOOK like a pedo's scalp"

"I VERY much doubt that"

[ - ] SirNiggsalot 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 9, 2023 11:51:48 ago (+1/-1)

Vote harder !

[ - ] Reawakened 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 9, 2023 12:31:39 ago (+0/-0)

The most interesting thing about the system is that it is a system. It's dependent on high tension lines, cell towers, rail ways, bridges, pipe lines, locks and dams, pumping stations, substations, etc. to maintain control.

[ - ] ImplicationOverReason 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 9, 2023 12:42:54 ago (+0/-0)*

It's dependent on high tension lines, cell towers, rail ways, bridges, pipe lines, locks and dams, pumping stations, substations, etc. to maintain control.

Only within whole can one utilize partials to build. Suggested SYSTEM (assemblage of partials into whole) tempts one to ignore perceivable whole (natural) for suggested whole (artificial)...natural destroys artificial; hence any suggested system destroying those consenting to be within it, who in return lack to comprehend what's destroying them.

As for control...action (inception towards death) controls reaction (life); which in return allows one to wield "free" will of choice within the "dom"inance of balance aka free-dom. One cannot act; only react...others suggest actors under directors to distract one from being reactors (life) within direction (inception towards death).

Edit: REwakened implies REsponding (reacting) to WAKE (excite; arouse; arise; born; originate)...

[ - ] Sector7 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 9, 2023 13:08:06 ago (+0/-0)

I still suspect your comments are insightful, but it would be nice if they were translated into English.

[ - ] ImplicationOverReason 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 9, 2023 13:47:18 ago (+0/-0)

a) System...people throw this term around everywhere; but what does it mean? Latin systema (an assemblage of things) represents stuff put together. What most ignore is that putting together implies being set apart before. So what is it that sets apart? Only whole can set itself apart internally...being one implies being set apart from every other one within whole.

What is that whole? How could one discern being a partial within such a whole? Could others suggest "hole in one" to distract from being "one within whole"?

b) TRANS (transmutation of whole into partial) LATE (to draw out) -TION (action)...what if action (inception towards death) transmutes within itself; drawn out reactions (life)?

c) ask yourself what the root of all languages implies? If languages represent the "articulation of sound" aka the artificial reaction to sound; then what represents the natural reaction to sound?

[ - ] Sector7 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 10, 2023 04:02:23 ago (+0/-0)

Wrote a detailed reply that was about 14 inches on my screen, which was deleted when pressing 'post' logged me out.

[ - ] ImplicationOverReason 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 10, 2023 15:51:10 ago (+0/-0)

That shit happened to me way too often; so now I write in notepad before pasting it over. On the flip-side...if one adapts to perceivable inspiration instead of to suggested information; then not a moment was wasted while doing it.

[ - ] Sector7 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 10, 2023 20:58:58 ago (+0/-0)

Agreed the moment and effort weren't wasted. Often, simply creating the message is sufficient. What do you mean by these two phrases?

perceivable inspiration (impetus that reaches ones awareness?)

suggested information (data from without?)

[ - ] GloryBeckons 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 9, 2023 13:38:00 ago (+0/-0)

Money is power. Blood is legacy. Lore is destiny.

You take money from the enemy. You invest it in your family, your community, your kinfolk. You weave a legend to guide and hold it all together, throughout the ages and across generations.

These principles are the foundation of every lasting dynasty, and every successful revolution.

Their absence is at the root of every failed empire and every vanquished uprising.

This is why all forms and movements of "conservatism" are doomed at inception. They get it all backwards. They prefer to only take money from ("do business with") their own. They actively refuse to take money from their enemies. They walk away from positions of power and influence "in protest", as soon as things don't quite go their way, instead of playing the long game. They invest in "converting" outsiders, while neglecting their own. They let the enemy control every narrative, rewrite every history, and even dictate the very words from their own mouths, without meaningful contest or counter. All in the name of "principle".

What principles are these? What good are they, when they inevitably lead to self-destruction?

Even here, people often smugly berate and condemn Hitler, for taking money from jewish bankers and investors, to finance his movement. But why wouldn't he? What sort of fool wouldn't take the enemy's money to turn it against them? A conservative, that's who.

[ - ] lmaoayy 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 9, 2023 20:49:39 ago (+0/-0)

Violence. Assassinations, to be more blunt.

[ - ] MynxiMe 0 points 1.8 yearsJul 10, 2023 00:33:39 ago (+0/-0)

Nice effort to make ppl stop trying.
Reminds me of something ppl in tiny hats do.

[ - ] ImplicationOverReason 1 point 1.8 yearsJul 9, 2023 12:32:27 ago (+1/-0)

a) being aware of suggested (fiction) doesn't represent awareness within perceivable (reality). The "thoroughly corrupt and tyrannical system" represents a suggestion by the few to gain control over the consenting many.

Suggested SYS'TEM, noun (Latin systema) - "an assemblage of things adjusted into a regular whole" tempts one to ignore being a partial (perceiving) within whole (perceivable).

Want of change (suggested progressivism) tempts one to ignore the need to adapt to being (life) changed (inception towards death), hence being within motion.

b) MONO (singular) POLY (plural)...suggested pluralism (we) tempts perceiving singularity (one) to ignore self.

c) suggested SUIT, noun (Latin sequor) - "following" tempts one to ignore that perceivable L (land) A (air) W (water) demands ones resistance, hence need of shelter; breathing and thirst.

d) exposing the suggested lies of others keeps one within a conflict of reason versus suggested truths...truth (want) vs lies (not want) tempts one to ignore being within change (need).

Within change (inception towards death) one (life) cannot hold onto anything without ignoring motion...those who hold onto suggested truths can be contradicted with suggested lies, hence keeping them distracted within conflicts of reason (truth vs lies aka want vs not want aka belief vs disbelief aka agreement vs disagreement aka good vs evil aka pepsi vs coke aka simpsons vs family guy etc.)

e) one (life) cannot run away from the natural order (inception towards death)...trying to follow (want) or run away (not want) from suggested orders tempts one to keep ignoring the perceivable natural order...which needs to be resisted.

what's the solution

Solution (inception towards death) generates problems (life)...problems struggle to sustain self within solution until being dissolved. This isn't hard to comprehend...it's way too easy to ignore.

look at the two

Can you discern between each ONE of them? What if suggested dualism (two) tempts one to ignore perceivable units (ones)? Can one really look at two or only at each other one?

If all represents one in energy, then what does "two" represent? What's more than energy? What could exist outside ENERGY (internal/inherent power)?

change an oppressive system

Resist following (systema) allows one to discern being expression (need) or repression (want) within an impressing system. Want burdens one with temptations; need expresses resistance (life) within temptation (inception towards death).

Consenting to suggested represses self with it; while giving those suggesting the power of ones consent to oppress one with it.

Consider understanding aka ones consent to "stand under" what others are suggesting...that represents self inflicted repression (consent) fueling outside oppression (suggestion).

put a more friendly face on their cause.

Each one faces (life) the cause (inception towards death)...ignoring this gives others the opportunity to masquerade perceivable reality underneath suggested fiction.

Suggested FACE (surface) tempts one to ignore being core within exterior, hence being able to perceive surrounding from center position. All the suggested faces tempt one to ignore center for surrounding.

one its own accord

Accord (agreement) vs discord (disagreement) implies consent of both sides to a 3rd party suggestion, which contradicts "on its own". All conflicts (reasoning) imply fighting among those who consent over what others are suggesting.

Nature doesn't suggest conflicts...try to apply agreement vs disagreement to breathing and you'll notice that the natural order (forwards motion aka velocity) will force one to breathe (resistance) no matter if one agrees or disagrees.

change the establishment

Change (moving input aka perceivable inspiration) establishes MENT (Latin mentis; mind/memory)...ones consent to suggested information tempts one to mentally hold onto it; while ignoring ongoing change.

continuing down those paths

Ones continuation (life) requires resisting the only path (inception towards death)...others suggest LOGOS to tempt one to follow; while ignoring to resist perceivable PATHOS, hence all the pathological behavior aka PATHOL'OGY, noun (Greek; passion, suffering and discourse.)

So what is the solution? Is there one?

a) the ongoing process of dying...each one is living temporarily within it.

b) being implies temporary growth (life) within ongoing loss (inception towards death).

c) solution generates problems...without solution one couldn't experience problems. Problems (choice) can only exist at the center of surrounding solution (balance)...others choose to tempt one from center by suggesting to solve problems, which dissolves oneself when consenting.

Suggested MATH, noun - "a mowing; as in aftermath" tempts one to ignore perceivable addition (inception); subtraction (death); multiplication (intercourse for offspring) and division (being partial within whole).




[ - ] Sleazy 1 point 1.8 yearsJul 9, 2023 16:24:21 ago (+1/-0)

the tree of liberty needs to be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots

[ - ] Spaceman84 4 points 1.8 yearsJul 9, 2023 12:19:44 ago (+4/-0)

I completely agree and @Joe_McCarthy has the answer. Violent revolution is the only way. It starts with "terrorism" aka sabotage of infrastructure/supply lines and guerilla warfare, then insurgency and open warfare. The same as it has been throughout history.

[ - ] FuckShitJesus 1 point 1.8 yearsJul 9, 2023 15:01:37 ago (+1/-0)

"There is no such thing as a peaceful Revolution".

You can't vote your way out of tyranny.

[ - ] TheViciousMrPim 7 points 1.8 yearsJul 9, 2023 12:13:57 ago (+7/-0)

Same thing it means everytime, Pinky. Burn it all down and start over.

No, I can't tell you where or when the ignition spark will strike. The burning is inevitable though.

[ - ] PotatoWhisperer2 1 point 1.8 yearsJul 9, 2023 14:16:36 ago (+2/-1)

In the mean time, disconnect where possible, acquire real assets, get fit, prepped, and away from cities. Help other Whites who know the JQ when possible, but not to your own detriment.

And if you are one lucky asshole and somehow find a non-trash women, make some White babies.

[ - ] FuckShitJesus 1 point 1.8 yearsJul 9, 2023 14:31:51 ago (+1/-0)

Absolutely this. Rome 2.0 is a spark away from combustion.

No matter how many people you smooth brains "wake up", they are still in the same shitty situations with their shitty lives making shitty decisions.

Upton Sinclair nailed it in his book after running for New Jersey Governor post the Great Depression: "You can't teach a man.. when his salary depends on his not understanding it".

As long as the sheep are tethered to their paychecks, they will continue to behave exactly the same, regardless of the circumstances placed upon them.

Accelerate this shit into the raging inferno and lets start a new one. Nothing else matters, and never has.