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People are starting to catch out to the gatekeeping.

submitted by prototype to random 1.7 yearsAug 10, 2023 17:13:30 ago (+28/-0)     (random)

In reference to:
https://www.voat.xyz/viewpost?postid=64d4ea2f0bfa2

The entire premise, the 'journalist' questioning bill gates, the back and forth, the articles on obscure news sites editorializing "slammed!", "wrecked!", "destroyed!" etc, all of it if you look at it for what it is, appears designed to keep us complacent. It's feel good bullshit. Which means its being run by the enemy by defintion. Explains the proliferation of sites like conservativeus.com.

People are starting to catch on to this gatekeeping keep-the-crowd-thinking-anything-is-actually-is-being-done-at-all grift, which is why the gatewaypundit recently closed its own comment section.

Which shows us something important: We can do the same thing. All it takes is for a few of us to be the talking heads, appearing to support one set of issues vs another, while reasonably well dressed 'journalists', also played by our people, do this back and forth.

Acts as instant content for news sites we could set up, as well as 'journalism/news channels' on videohosting sites.

Why fake a single news channel that can be censored, when we could be faking our own opposition and a whole narrative and movement?

Fight fire with fire. They accuse us of 'misinformation', because they're afraid of the effectiveness of the tactic. They're afraid that we will start doing what The Regime already does against all of us.

I'm perfectly willing to play the devils advocate if we can get some well spoken populists to fill the otherside of the debate. Messaging is important. Disrupting the narrative of occupied D.C. does real damage to their control over america. This also acts as a beachhead for incubating and vetting candidates. This tactic can also be used for a fake leftwing infomovement, which we can use to vet candidates that act as infiltrators.

I'm up for it if others are.


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[ - ] yesiknow 7 points 1.7 yearsAug 10, 2023 17:33:04 ago (+7/-0)

You're playing their game if you're talking to normies and substitute the word jew with "Marxist international banker" and like they do, repeat it a lot, so it sits in their surface memory and hypnotizes them. The word jew has to come from inside them not outside because it threatens the moral superiority they've been led around by.

After repetitively listing Marxist International bankers as their enemy, jew will fall into place, whether they're making accusations from their side, or hearing them from ours.

[ - ] prototype [op] 4 points 1.7 yearsAug 10, 2023 17:38:31 ago (+4/-0)

After repetitively listing Marxist International bankers as their enemy, jew will fall into place, whether they're making accusations from their side, or hearing them from ours.

What I'm saying is we can direct people toward any belief if we are running an operation where all sides are apparently represented. This is the very idea of gatekeeping-in-the-large. And because its not just one person, its hard to regulate, because it becomes an 'information ecosystem' within the broader ecosystem, instead of one influencer or channel that is otherwise easier to take down.

Don't try to control 'the conversation' as it were: become the conversation, both its subject and its source.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 10, 2023 20:29:06 ago (+1/-0)

Bolshevik is another good word that implies jew.

[ - ] AlexanderMorose13 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 10, 2023 21:05:42 ago (+1/-0)

So is Zionist. You can also use the handy catchphrase "Zionism IS racism."

[ - ] deleted 2 points 1.7 yearsAug 10, 2023 21:50:25 ago (+2/-0)*

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[ - ] yesiknow 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 11, 2023 01:55:38 ago (+0/-0)

A leftist thinks your talking about themselves as an insult with "bolshevik'. They take everything personally and go on the defense.

They really believe everything they want is to help others they've never met, so imaginary others.

[ - ] Clubberlang 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 10, 2023 22:21:32 ago (+0/-0)

I mean they have no problem calling white Americans racist white straight domestic terrorists.

So why can't we just call them baby penis sucking demonic jews?

Call a spade a nigger as I always say.

[ - ] Hall_of_Cost 6 points 1.7 yearsAug 10, 2023 19:02:07 ago (+6/-0)

script in some callers - I'll call in to insert a truth that one of you can call crazy - like, how much of my tax dollars per year go to a israel for their quality of life, and how much go to israel for their defense. Even though they have a higher standard of living than Americans. Then on the show, you can look it up, fair and square.

I wish go1dfish was still here because I think it was his sub back in the day v/taxationistheft that had it all outlined nicely.

This is the type of info that will really wake normies up, especially when they discover how many filthy merchants are in congress, maybe the other /ourguy/ talking head can support my claim with this and the relationship APAIC has with US gov.

[ - ] prototype [op] 3 points 1.7 yearsAug 10, 2023 20:15:06 ago (+3/-0)

script in some callers - I'll call in to insert a truth that one of you can call crazy - like, how much of my tax dollars per year go to a israel for their quality of life, and how much go to israel for their defense. Even though they have a higher standard of living than Americans. Then on the show, you can look it up, fair and square.
This is a solid start Hall_of_cost. This is an element of the foundation.

Take it a step further though. Do this for all sides of multiple subjects, a plurality of outlets and channels.

It's not about what we believe, it's about moving the needle.

Namely toward the big red reset button against the internationalists.

If "competition is a sin", then our mission is to sin.

If it is easy to tell what the agenda is, then the gain on the noise isn't high enough. The confusion and feigned infighting isn't thorough enough.

Two goals. First, push a plurity of platforms, channels, talking-heads, an apparent narrative, second: move the needle while creating a smokescreen of noise about what the actual agenda is.

In short, the mission is to change public perception on specific critical topics, in a way the regime can't stop short of them using force, be it visible or clandestine.

I like your idea because the long term goal can be disguised in a "humble beginnings" narrative to explain astroturfed 'organic' or 'viral/trending' type growth.

Any recommendations for good show formats to copy, or current influencers to look into?

[ - ] Sleazy 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 10, 2023 20:50:34 ago (+1/-0)

what platforms?

[ - ] prototype [op] 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 10, 2023 20:59:20 ago (+1/-0)

what platforms?

any and all. including ones that exist, and ones that don't yet exist.

likewise the word platform can here be taken to also mean "campaign", or "set of ideas". Candidates run on platforms. Technology companies host platforms. Weapons systems, in this case weaponized propaganda, are built on weapons platforms, etc.

Where to start is an open question. Suggestions?

[ - ] Sleazy 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 10, 2023 21:13:04 ago (+0/-0)

what you are describing is going to take a whole lot of work by a whole lot of people

who is going to do all this work?

[ - ] prototype [op] 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 10, 2023 22:17:31 ago (+1/-0)

who is going to do all this work?

thats what big tent movements are for. I advise you to go search that exact term for details.

[ - ] Hall_of_Cost 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 11, 2023 00:22:03 ago (+1/-0)

Thanks and right off the bat I'm thinking audio only podcast, at least for starters. Two or three individuals. One skeptic, one conspiracy theorist, one fence-rider. Casual discussions and debates, a little comedy, and callers. I'm about to go to sleep but I'll think more on this. Sleazy is right it would take a lot of people, but not at first with the podcast format. As long as some people agreed to actually call in, then we'd have to make seem legit, like anyone can call in.

[ - ] prototype [op] 2 points 1.7 yearsAug 11, 2023 10:45:11 ago (+2/-0)

Thats good. The five is also a good format. Keep it light. Keep it accessible.

Podcast might be good to get people to participate who might otherwise be reluctant.

So we basically need a format for 1-3 shows, and 2-4 ancillary blogs or 1-2 man discussion channels, sort of like the yt drama-alert faggotry, but more laid back.

[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod 3 points 1.7 yearsAug 10, 2023 22:08:59 ago (+3/-0)

mossad agent Avi Yemini still easily cons most 'far right' aussies into listening to him simply by being the only allowed dominant 'far right' voice.

[ - ] prototype [op] 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 10, 2023 22:16:50 ago (+1/-0)

mossad agent Avi Yemini still easily cons most 'far right' aussies into listening to him simply by being the only allowed dominant 'far right' voice.

case in point. A plurality of voices, especially in a back-and-forth dialogue, is harder to censor, than any single influence.

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 10, 2023 17:49:16 ago (+2/-1)

Anything less than full on Siege Culture, advocacy of armed revolution, secession, guerrilla warfare, and practical discussion of the same is gatekeeping. Let's make no bones about it. And if you do those things you'll have issues running a journal or even keeping a website online. People will also be spooked to even be around you due to intimidation.

The people are already sufficiently radicalized. Or enough of them are. This thing isn't going to be done with some webzine. The threat of apocalyptic violence forces the government to start seriously addressing our concerns. And if they don't seriously address them we blow it all to hell. The lines are clear.

[ - ] prototype [op] 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 11, 2023 10:55:33 ago (+1/-0)*

and practical discussion of the same is gatekeeping.

what we're talking about doing is gatekeeping. namely reverse gatekeeping.

what are you gonna do joe? Go storm the trenches? You and what army? You have no logistics. You have no followers. You have no intelligence network. No safehouses. No comms. No hardened fighters. No network of public support. No front groups. No network structure. No chain of command.

What are you gonna do joe?

You have a lot of gumption, I'll give you that. At the end of the day though,
lets be frank. All I see from you are sanguine fantasies and complaints about how anything short of total radicalization, isn't good enough. Except we're not on your timeline, and none of us answer to you because you haven't done anything for any of us, toward any cause, let alone your own, haven't offered any actionable plan.

Understand the difference between the impossible and the possible is the limit of what is actually in your control. Until you grasp that difference, no one will take you serious Joe.

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 11, 2023 22:18:23 ago (+0/-0)*

"Haven't offered any actionable plan"?

Really? You're going THERE?!

"Our agenda at present then, as indicated by the prevailing conditions, would include: focusing all our concentration on the ideological swing from reaction all the way over to Total Revolution. In other words, effecting a revolution within our Existing Movement first." - James Mason, SIEGE

https://as1.ftcdn.net/v2/jpg/05/35/98/74/1000_F_535987410_WoCAm8ox7ZsKa4BK6rkg9AUc1VvGDUYc.jpg

It's interesting that I was raised as a preterist and my father believed Nero was the Beast of Revelation. He also believed Nero's destruction of Jerusalem was the prophesied Great Tribulation.

Far out, man.

[ - ] prototype [op] 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 11, 2023 23:23:41 ago (+0/-0)

Existing Movement

Thats not a real plan because you have no significant existing movement. The secondary and unrelated details suggest to me you're not even a person but a script of some sort.

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 11, 2023 23:31:22 ago (+0/-0)

You totally misread that post.

In any case you more than others have no excuse. As the actionable plan you claim I don't have was articulated to you more fully than literally anyone here. Maybe it's just over your head. But it is so simple it shouldn't be.

[ - ] rhy 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 11, 2023 03:45:56 ago (+0/-0)

This is why /v/newz exists

[ - ] Nasturtium 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 11, 2023 01:08:15 ago (+0/-0)

Interesting idea, not sure how it would work... fighting fraudulent ideas could be viewed as satire or direct opposition and easily dismissed or attacked or both, lol.

[ - ] Clubberlang 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 10, 2023 22:27:51 ago (+0/-0)

Seems interesting.

Can you sticky this?

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 10, 2023 20:39:12 ago (+1/-1)

I love seeing discussions like this. We need to be strategizing as well and not just passing out black pills to each other. You make lots of sound posts and comments, prototype.

[ - ] PhantomXLII 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 10, 2023 19:48:48 ago (+1/-1)

Shut the fuck up lmao. Nobody is catching on to shit. Stop huffing the fucking copium and move on.

[ - ] prototype [op] 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 10, 2023 19:59:47 ago (+2/-1)

Shut the fuck up

No.

[ - ] mikenigger 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 11, 2023 12:54:34 ago (+0/-0)

stop noticing goy

[ - ] prototype [op] 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 11, 2023 12:56:47 ago (+0/-0)

stop noticing goy

No.

[ - ] mikenigger 1 point 1.7 yearsAug 11, 2023 13:05:28 ago (+1/-0)

@system shut it down!

[ - ] GreenSaint 0 points 1.7 yearsAug 10, 2023 19:24:09 ago (+0/-0)

It seems like such a weird time. Like anybody and everybody is so overwhelmed with information. I keep wondering will people wake up. Or idk. It’s just impossible to avoid bulllshit and impossible to avoid the truth. Is it going anywhere? Or will things remain the same.