Ok man, look. Here's something that I learned the hard way.
Women have flirted with you. A bunch of times. You're just an oblivious retard. Try to learn the signals. This shit didn't hit me until I was like 27, then I looked back and hated myself. Self esteem could be part of it. I grew up hating my hair, hating the mole on my face, hating my pectus excavatum, etc. How could a girl ever be into me? If you've got some issue like that, fuck it man, fix it. I don't particularly care for vanity procedures, but now I don't have this ugly ass pea sized mole on my cheek.
Also stop giving a fuck. Women can tell. When I first asked my wife out for coffee, she turned me down and I said ok and fucked off. We've been together 16 years now.
When I already had the husband locked down I started talking shit about all the other women and their pitiful attempts at flirting with him and he said "what,they weren't flirting" I'm yes they were. Then he got mad for about a minute.
Can't get a girl to even talk to me. Never had a girlfriend. 37 years old.
Are you a nigger? Seriously how? I go out and do things that works towards my goals, and along the way I make acquaintances and friends with people, some of them women. Occasionally I find one that is my age, shares my interests and is date worthy. I ask them out, sometimes its a no, sometimes its a yes.
How can you not have a conversation with a woman? They're everywhere and you have to engage with them for basic functionality within society. What do the baristas at your local coffee drive through communicate with you purely via a note pad? Knock it off with this "women don't talk to me bullshit" they talk to you all the time, and you're throwing away opportunities because you're overthinking how you "talk to them".
Join a club, introduce yourself, then spend a couple meetings waiting and listening. Once you've gotten a feel for the people, then start talking to them, and not just to date women for fucks sake, but to network with good people. You do that, and things like that, and you will eventually find a nice young lady in her early 30s that isn't dating anyone.
I've never had anything remotely like a conventional job. I don't drink coffee or alcohol but if I did I would just make my own. I don't know man. I can go months without leaving my house. I was trying to talk to women online. I've enver talked to women IRL either because I'm just never around anyone.
Determine some non computer/tv interests you have. Look up and join those local clubs that are inline with your interest. Go to meetings and outings regularly.
Your problem is you aren't around people enough, so do things that get you around people more.
Drive, get someone to drive him, or take a bus to a better area. What I'm suggesting he do, he only needs to do a couple times a month to start. If he has to drive an hour to get to a good area, then so be it.
5'6 might be a challenge to overcome. I hear leg extension surgery is worth it but painful.
If that's out of the question, dont worry: Girls are short too.
Just ask yourself what your future girlfriend is doing right now? Is she at the library? Is she at a bar? Is she on a hike? Is she on a horse? Whatever it is she's doing; go do those things. Emmerse yourself in that. You will be surrounded by girls who like that too, some who are even short also. That's how you meet girls with similar interests.
Frankly that dating game is insufferably broken! You are, synonymous speaking, trying to buy stocks at the peak of the Market. There is this massive Mexican Standoff between Men & Women right now! IT ISN'T YOU! It's the social conditioning, that's made every broad part of the hivemind collective. The pendulum is starting to swing back to the center, but it's going to take some time before men & women start acting like men & women again! To use another analogy, What you're going through is like Trout fishing at the wrong time of day, with the wrong bait. Your best play is going to be to study U-Tube videos, that discuss, building confidence from a Male perspective, and, How to read women to see the subtle signs that contradict what they're saying to you. Do these things, and you will be in as much control of your destiny as you can be.
BEWARE of being too eager or desperate in finding a woman, and DO NOT let her know about your excellent financial standing. You want her to love YOU, NOT your wealth.
PRAY! Even if you're not religious, ask God to send you the right woman.
It's a numbers game. You will get rejected a million times, but you need to get out there and talk to a million and one. Be confident, and go approach women in a friendly way. The more women you meet and talk to, the more likely you are to find a real decent one to get to know better. Don't approach and say "hey, let's go out". Approach and tell a joke, or comment on something they are doing. Then draw the conversation out by asking benign questions that aren't too invasive. They won't come to you, you need to get out there and talk to them.
You're going to be better off going to in-person events and activities and meeting some female friends.
You'll likely be better off just being friends with females first. It'll teach you some social skills and some might end up having single friends that are nice for you to try dating.
You can also try some singles events. Just go somewhere to mingle and try to sweep the dust off your shoulder and build some confidence.
All you motherfuckers are gonna pay. You are the ones who are the ball-lickers. We're gonna fuck your mothers while you watch and cry like little bitches. Once we get to Hollywood and find those Miramax fucks who are making that movie, we're gonna make 'em eat our shit, then shit out our shit, then eat their shit which is made up of our shit that we made 'em eat. Then you're all you motherfucks are next. Love, Jay and Silent Bob.
Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back(the first one) is funny. The second one (reboot) is absolute woke garbage. Clerks 2 is actually good other than a dance number they do in it. Clerks 3 is okay and gives closure. These ones are worth watching. This said, Kevin Smith sucks now since he became a heavy weed smoker and his wife took over. oh, and that ugly daughter oif his is in the Clerks 3. She's so ugly she has to be jewish.
[ - ] bobdole9 1 point 1 yearApr 12, 2024 23:17:57 ago (+1/-0)
Have you tried wearing a wedding ring while going out? Have a married guy friend who'd want to go out to the bars with you? Supposedly women want what they can't have or is claimed.
Can't say I have tried myself, could be meme'd bullshit.
Edit: get a silicone band for relatively low price.
When I was younger, high-school age, me and my friends used to go to the mall and see who could get the most phone numbers from girls. It was a contest so i didnt care at the time but this actually did 2 things for me; got me over the fear of rejection and got me used to talking to girls. Start small, try coffee shops, strip malls, shoe stores whatever. Start off with breaking the ice until you get comfortable with simple interactions. Something like this, "do you know where the men's section is? Ok thanks" " do they have Chai here?" "Do you know when this store closes?" Then walk away. Treat these ice breakers as nothing but training. Don't even ask the girl out. Do ice breakers until it feels natural and carefree speaking with random women. It's carefree bc you arent worried about rejection, you just want a simple answer to a question and nothing more. They don't even know you're practicing. Be aware of their body language in reaction to you and fine tune your body language with each interaction. Are you blocking them in with your body? Stop doing that and leave space so they subconsciously recognize they have an escape route.dont square up to women or keep strong eye contact, it's subconsciously aggressive to them. The ice breaker should appear secondary to your main focus. If your a chad these things dont matter as much but regular guys are seen a creepy if their body language is too agresive or direct. When you get past ice breakers and feel a connection that's when you point your heart to theirs and go for it. Then when youre comfortable start asking more personal things after the ice breaker, "what's your favorite...""do you know how to..." if you know how to lift you know you need to get reps in, especially when you've never had a gf.
After that, as others mentioned, it is a numbers game. Go up to women you find attractive and break ice then ask her out. You'll get rejected most likely. Do it and keep doing it until you find the one that says yes. This is the best way ive found that will get you used to rejection and get you used to talking to women.
Go to coffee shops. It's a relaxed low-key environment. If the place is crowded, ask lone girls if you could share their table. Or if you are alone at a table, make eye contact with a girl looking for a seat, motion for her to join you and point at your empty chair. If she moves toward you, be sure to maintain eye contact as she approaches. You will feel in control because she is entering your personal space. Don't ask her name. This is actually important because it confuses her and makes you 'different'. Make small talk. After a few minutes, look at your watch or phone, say you have to go, you enjoyed chatting, and ask (or tell) her to meet you there the next day or whenever . If she shows up, you're in. If not, rinse and repeat. I played this game many times back in the day. It's simple and painless.
If the place is crowded, ask lone girls if you could share their table.
Ok
Or if you are alone at a table, make eye contact with a girl looking for a seat, motion for her to join you and point at your empty chair. If she moves toward you, be sure to maintain eye contact as she approaches.
Maintain eye and make sure not to blink for that extra creepy effect OP
Feeling your pain and in the same boat. I really wished I focused on finding a partner in my early 20's instead of listening to everyone who told me to "just work hard and a good woman will come along".
Just be sure to stay away from the single moms even if your feeling dejected. No good will come from taking care of someone else's failures.
If you do manage to find someone to have kids with, be sure to do your best to secure them a good partner before they exit high school.
Wish I could give you better advice, but in all honesty the dating market is such trash now a days, that anything I could say would probably be irrelevant or stuff you already know.
How old are you? Have you dated in the past? My mother had a kid when my father married her and thats why I now exist. My siblings relationship with my father was horrendous so I'm really cautious about dating a single mom, even though I don't think they would want to anyway. But at this point I'm starting to feel like I would.
About the same age. I've dated in the past but almost every job I've had has sent me out of the city to work for weeks or months without female interactions. Lost quite a few opportunities with decent woman while chasing the dollar because I thought I was being responsible and building a nest egg for the future as I had no money to my name after high school. Also I'm not exactly the best looking dude, which I've had to deal with ever since puberty. The kind of guy who just seems to give girls the "ick".
In regards to single mother's let me tell you that it is so many levels of bullshit to deal with that you best stay clear. For example.....
If you do begin to get attached to her and want to fill in as a father, you have no parental rights if you want to be involved in the kids life. So if she ever decides that she wants to get back together with the original father, you will be kicked to the curb. On top of that, if her kid ever acts out or disrespects you or destroys any of your belongings you will never have any real say in how to correct their behavior. You will be expected to just take the abuse.
If the father died you will NEVER be able to live up to the same standard as the father. Even if he was a drug addict hoodrat that routinely beat his wife and kid. In their eyes he was taken from them right before he was gonna clean up his act and be the very best parent ever.
The kids will 9/10 times prefer to be with their father and will likely develop a inferiority complex towards you and resent you as they will not truly feel like you are a part of the family. As far as they are concerned you are just some random guy who is taking up the single mothers attention. They may not say it but they are thinking it.
You will typically be expected to shoulder a lot of the costs for her and her kids. Either via taking them out on trips, paying for dinner each night, helping them get moved into a better place, hell you might even be like my one co worker who primarily helped her kid buy her first car. A car that she crashed that year and then just shrugged her shoulders at him and said "oh well, everybody gets into a accident".
There are many horror stories if you've the time to actually read up on the matter but long story short, if someone else left her, then the juice is probably not worth the squeeze. If she left someone else then she is predisposed to leaving you as well after she feels she has got as much value out of you as she can. Or she is just bad at making long term decisions and will continue to make costly and destructive issues happen.
Oh and don't forget that if the father is still alive you will likely have to deal with that as well. If he is crazy or abusive, you'll probably have to watch your six a lot in case he ever decides to lose it on you for any given issue.
be sure to do your best to secure them a good partner before they exit high school.
Sure and be ready to wrangle the fuck out of the other parents necks when at the last stretch they make sure to make them autistic/adhd and turn them weird. AT THE LAST FUCKING SECOND!
Women flirt in stupid ways. If a girl makes eye contact, that is a flirt(I wish I knew this shit when I was younger). If she is currently speaking with you, she has some sort of interest in you. Put yourself in a position to be rejected by many women and you will learn that it is ok, and not the end of the world. Some women may stay and talk. You are expecting nos so any communication is good. Read the book "the like switch". Good book, it may help you. Don't talk about sex and whatnot for a while, she will try to give you signals like holding your hand and shit as an indication to be more intimate. Get into public and start to meet women! Get lots of rejections! For a while, It may be a numbers game, just say hello, how are ya? to 1000 women and see if any stay to chat.
Consider investing into a reliable ready reference you can pick up and study to better prepare yourself for engaging the opposite sex. I'd suggest that you get yourself a copy of Doc Love's "The System: The Dating Dictionary". Doc Love, who until his passing was also known as Tom Hodges, wrote a weekly advice column that's archive is mirrored on several mens focused sites and a podcast. His media is a bit pricey, but it's a solid foundation a guy can branch out from in RP aware circles. I'd suggest you review his advice column to decide if his view on dating and relationships is aligned with what you aspire for yourself. To save yourself a search, give this scribed link a gander to find out if his book is something you'd like to add to your library. It should also be available on libgen.
when you're ugly as..., or small in size, or have other issues, nothing will help. You're doomed, as far as your love life is concerned. Don't hide yourself, anon
1. Dating sites are shit. 2. Get a profile pic of you wearing a nice suit. 3. Friend zone a hot chick. Hot chicks know other hot chicks. Make Friend zoned hot chicks do the heavy lifting for you. 4. Forget it if you don't have money.
First, are you being flat out ignored when you try to talk to them, or are you not approaching at all? Are you skinny, short, broke, socially akward, smelly, and/or ugly?
Be honest about which of these is true, and we can talk about solutions.
I'm trying to talk to them online. And nobody has been interested in my profile either. I have half a million dollars, I've never had a girlfriend I'm definitely awkward. My physique is like the statue of david. I'm 5'6. I shower daily and make my own cologne. My attractiveness rating is 5.2 out of 10 on photo feeler.
Online is a waste of time. Been there, done it. If you are independent and well-off financially, I would legit pay an app/web developer to build a dating app thats only for you, or select invited men. It's been done before, and it worked.
Aside from that, I'd suggest something unorthodox which under normal circumstances everyone on here (including myself) would warn against, which is sending a photo of yourself, perhaps dressed casually or in a suit, to me. Seeing as you probably won't be doing that, I have no basis to know if you are genuinely a '5.2 out of 10'.
What I will recommend is working on posture, and a shirt with padded shoulders to enhance the visual effect of your lifting. Lot of women I've talked to have said shoulder broadness is more important than a mans face, and at least as equally important as a mans height (I would know, I'm short). Posture does wonders for the general swagger of your gait, the presentation of apparent confidence, physicality, etc. I started getting a lot more attention when I improved my posture.
Without having a deeper conversation, like through a messenger app (matrix is pretty good), I can't help you much further.
The attractiveness rating is from a website where real people rate you. It's pretty interesting. I did 2 completely different photos, both rated by women only, and for "dating purposes" and they both got 5.2 somehow, I thought one of them was way better but guess not.
[ - ] Sector2 1 point 1 yearApr 12, 2024 23:42:48 ago (+2/-1)
I'm trying to talk to them online. I'm 5'6.
Mistake, and ouch. anon 2946951 has some good advice, except maybe for the dating app. Your height is a definite negative. Posture and self confidence will go a long way to make up for your height. Extra points if your self confidence is validated by your financial success, but money as bait is a terrible basis for a relationship. That should be more part of the background, unless you're looking for a short affair with a golddigger.
As anon 2946951 implied, you need a real life person to coach you towards more successful behaviors.
Too bad you weren't a boomer, because all of this was just how it worked. You'd talk to girls in your daily life, and sometimes both of you would want to hang out together.
Cool man, you've been talking to bots good fucking job you retard.
I'm also 5'6". That shit doesn't matter. One of the gals I work with is cute as fuck and sends signals all the time. TOTALLY WOULD if her and I weren't both married. I have a massive crush on her but I'm not playing that game.
They can sense awkward. Exude confidence, even if you're faking it. Bonus is that niggers will notice the confidence too and are less likely to attempt to rob you.
Take this to the bank. If you don't listen to me you're foolish as I have 'special' insights here.
1. Use some variation of the apocalypse opener. Saves time. Women are total sluts now. They like it even if they say no.
2. Numbers game. You miss every shot you don't take.
3. Compliments. Dale Carnegie was right. To be successful socially you gotta make people feel good. When approaching women tell them they are beautiful very early. Either right before or after the apocalypse opener.
If you don't think telling a woman she's beautiful quickly works then don't try it.
Apocalypse opener is PUA. You don't build comfort. You just ask her to fuck on first approach. Takes balls though. Most men, other than maybe niggers, lack it.
Totally disagree on the beautiful part. But whatever...
The apocalypse opener along with the numbers game works. Just don't get discouraged and keep dropping the bomb. The apocalypse opener is designed for same day lays but if she says no you ask her what her name is and try to exchange contact information. I STRONGLY advise you use the f word, as in ask her if she wants to fuck, rather than ask if she wants to have sex or some other weak sauce alternative to the real deal. The f word is visceral and activates the pussy.
Fuck off troll. Not my problem you're afraid of girls, don't talk to them, and don't know what's what.
Any human with a dick that has ever said it to any human with a pussy, more like. I can't think of anything that works better in a pinch. Needless to say the apocalypse opener carries an element of risk. I've been threatened with the police. Though never had them called.
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[ - ] anon 1122015 4 points 1 yearApr 13, 2024 07:10:07 ago (+4/-0)
Women have flirted with you. A bunch of times. You're just an oblivious retard. Try to learn the signals. This shit didn't hit me until I was like 27, then I looked back and hated myself. Self esteem could be part of it. I grew up hating my hair, hating the mole on my face, hating my pectus excavatum, etc. How could a girl ever be into me? If you've got some issue like that, fuck it man, fix it. I don't particularly care for vanity procedures, but now I don't have this ugly ass pea sized mole on my cheek.
Also stop giving a fuck. Women can tell. When I first asked my wife out for coffee, she turned me down and I said ok and fucked off. We've been together 16 years now.
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[ - ] s23erdctfvyg 3 points 1 yearApr 12, 2024 23:02:35 ago (+3/-0)
I go out and do things that works towards my goals, and along the way I make acquaintances and friends with people, some of them women. Occasionally I find one that is my age, shares my interests and is date worthy. I ask them out, sometimes its a no, sometimes its a yes.
How can you not have a conversation with a woman? They're everywhere and you have to engage with them for basic functionality within society.
What do the baristas at your local coffee drive through communicate with you purely via a note pad?
Knock it off with this "women don't talk to me bullshit" they talk to you all the time, and you're throwing away opportunities because you're overthinking how you "talk to them".
Join a club, introduce yourself, then spend a couple meetings waiting and listening. Once you've gotten a feel for the people, then start talking to them, and not just to date women for fucks sake, but to network with good people.
You do that, and things like that, and you will eventually find a nice young lady in her early 30s that isn't dating anyone.
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Your problem is you aren't around people enough, so do things that get you around people more.
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I have even been out inawoods "hiking" and ran into people, including women who flirted with me right out there in the middle of the woods.
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If that's out of the question, dont worry:
Girls are short too.
Just ask yourself what your future girlfriend is doing right now? Is she at the library? Is she at a bar? Is she on a hike? Is she on a horse? Whatever it is she's doing; go do those things. Emmerse yourself in that. You will be surrounded by girls who like that too, some who are even short also. That's how you meet girls with similar interests.
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[ - ] anon 3416010 2 points 1 yearApr 13, 2024 00:33:38 ago (+2/-0)
Meet new friends.
Eat better.
Exercise doesn't have to be lifting but it helps to attract the opposite sex.(don't worry about this part focus on the above)
Build up your own life and circle of friends.
Love what you do. Woman will be drawn to you.
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[ - ] anon 4183430 2 points 1 yearApr 12, 2024 22:45:37 ago (+2/-0)
BEWARE of being too eager or desperate in finding a woman, and DO NOT let her know about your excellent financial standing. You want her to love YOU, NOT your wealth.
PRAY! Even if you're not religious, ask God to send you the right woman.
That's as good as my advice gets, Hope it helps!
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[ - ] anon 3726184 0 points 1 yearApr 14, 2024 11:41:17 ago (+0/-0)
You'll likely be better off just being friends with females first. It'll teach you some social skills and some might end up having single friends that are nice for you to try dating.
You can also try some singles events. Just go somewhere to mingle and try to sweep the dust off your shoulder and build some confidence.
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[ - ] anon 3371457 1 point 1 yearApr 13, 2024 07:05:52 ago (+1/-0)
Good thing all this thread advise wasn't around back then.
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Can't say I have tried myself, could be meme'd bullshit.
Edit: get a silicone band for relatively low price.
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Also a silicone model.
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[ - ] anon 3703633 1 point 1 yearApr 12, 2024 23:01:58 ago (+1/-0)*
Start small, try coffee shops, strip malls, shoe stores whatever. Start off with breaking the ice until you get comfortable with simple interactions. Something like this, "do you know where the men's section is? Ok thanks" " do they have Chai here?" "Do you know when this store closes?" Then walk away. Treat these ice breakers as nothing but training. Don't even ask the girl out. Do ice breakers until it feels natural and carefree speaking with random women. It's carefree bc you arent worried about rejection, you just want a simple answer to a question and nothing more. They don't even know you're practicing. Be aware of their body language in reaction to you and fine tune your body language with each interaction. Are you blocking them in with your body? Stop doing that and leave space so they subconsciously recognize they have an escape route.dont square up to women or keep strong eye contact, it's subconsciously aggressive to them. The ice breaker should appear secondary to your main focus. If your a chad these things dont matter as much but regular guys are seen a creepy if their body language is too agresive or direct. When you get past ice breakers and feel a connection that's when you point your heart to theirs and go for it.
Then when youre comfortable start asking more personal things after the ice breaker, "what's your favorite...""do you know how to..." if you know how to lift you know you need to get reps in, especially when you've never had a gf.
After that, as others mentioned, it is a numbers game. Go up to women you find attractive and break ice then ask her out. You'll get rejected most likely. Do it and keep doing it until you find the one that says yes. This is the best way ive found that will get you used to rejection and get you used to talking to women.
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[ - ] anon 3416010 2 points 1 yearApr 13, 2024 00:38:40 ago (+2/-0)
Oh you were looking for it too? Cool!
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[ - ] anon 3416010 0 points 1 yearApr 15, 2024 23:42:46 ago (+0/-0)
Always get the "ewwwwahhhhh legit criinnnnnnge!" Look.
I should probably stop taking out my balls and hitting them against their leg while I ask that.
Might increase my chances.
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[ - ] anon 4184464 1 point 1 yearApr 12, 2024 22:30:37 ago (+1/-0)*
If the place is crowded, ask lone girls if you could share their table.
Or if you are alone at a table, make eye contact with a girl looking for a seat, motion for her to join you and point at your empty chair. If she moves toward you, be sure to maintain eye contact as she approaches.
You will feel in control because she is entering your personal space.
Don't ask her name. This is actually important because it confuses her and makes you 'different'.
Make small talk. After a few minutes, look at your watch or phone, say you have to go, you enjoyed chatting, and ask (or tell) her to meet you there the next day or whenever .
If she shows up, you're in. If not, rinse and repeat.
I played this game many times back in the day.
It's simple and painless.
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[ - ] anon 3416010 2 points 1 yearApr 13, 2024 00:40:51 ago (+2/-0)
::pulls out earbud with annoyed look::
Wut?! Yea sit wherever the fuck you want.
::puts ear bud back in starts telling her FaceTime date about weird guy staring at her sitting at the table::
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[ - ] anon 3215915 0 points 1 yearApr 12, 2024 23:30:51 ago (+0/-0)
Ok
Or if you are alone at a table, make eye contact with a girl looking for a seat, motion for her to join you and point at your empty chair. If she moves toward you, be sure to maintain eye contact as she approaches.
Maintain eye and make sure not to blink for that extra creepy effect OP
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[ - ] anon 3726184 0 points 1 yearApr 14, 2024 11:46:17 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ]anon
[ - ] anon 2468544 1 point 1 yearApr 12, 2024 22:04:26 ago (+1/-0)
Just be sure to stay away from the single moms even if your feeling dejected. No good will come from taking care of someone else's failures.
If you do manage to find someone to have kids with, be sure to do your best to secure them a good partner before they exit high school.
Wish I could give you better advice, but in all honesty the dating market is such trash now a days, that anything I could say would probably be irrelevant or stuff you already know.
With that said though, wishing you the best!
[ + ] anon
[ - ] anon 1878099 [op] 1 point 1 yearApr 12, 2024 22:08:44 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] anon
[ - ] anon 2468544 0 points 1 yearApr 13, 2024 01:29:41 ago (+0/-0)
In regards to single mother's let me tell you that it is so many levels of bullshit to deal with that you best stay clear. For example.....
If you do begin to get attached to her and want to fill in as a father, you have no parental rights if you want to be involved in the kids life. So if she ever decides that she wants to get back together with the original father, you will be kicked to the curb. On top of that, if her kid ever acts out or disrespects you or destroys any of your belongings you will never have any real say in how to correct their behavior. You will be expected to just take the abuse.
If the father died you will NEVER be able to live up to the same standard as the father. Even if he was a drug addict hoodrat that routinely beat his wife and kid. In their eyes he was taken from them right before he was gonna clean up his act and be the very best parent ever.
The kids will 9/10 times prefer to be with their father and will likely develop a inferiority complex towards you and resent you as they will not truly feel like you are a part of the family. As far as they are concerned you are just some random guy who is taking up the single mothers attention. They may not say it but they are thinking it.
You will typically be expected to shoulder a lot of the costs for her and her kids. Either via taking them out on trips, paying for dinner each night, helping them get moved into a better place, hell you might even be like my one co worker who primarily helped her kid buy her first car. A car that she crashed that year and then just shrugged her shoulders at him and said "oh well, everybody gets into a accident".
There are many horror stories if you've the time to actually read up on the matter but long story short, if someone else left her, then the juice is probably not worth the squeeze. If she left someone else then she is predisposed to leaving you as well after she feels she has got as much value out of you as she can. Or she is just bad at making long term decisions and will continue to make costly and destructive issues happen.
Oh and don't forget that if the father is still alive you will likely have to deal with that as well. If he is crazy or abusive, you'll probably have to watch your six a lot in case he ever decides to lose it on you for any given issue.
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[ + ] anon
[ - ] anon 3215915 0 points 1 yearApr 12, 2024 23:33:44 ago (+0/-0)
Sure and be ready to wrangle the fuck out of the other parents necks when at the last stretch they make sure to make them autistic/adhd and turn them weird. AT THE LAST FUCKING SECOND!
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[ - ] anon 4109260 0 points 1 yearApr 13, 2024 13:41:26 ago (+0/-0)
Put yourself in a position to be rejected by many women and you will learn that it is ok, and not the end of the world. Some women may stay and talk. You are expecting nos so any communication is good.
Read the book "the like switch". Good book, it may help you.
Don't talk about sex and whatnot for a while, she will try to give you signals like holding your hand and shit as an indication to be more intimate.
Get into public and start to meet women! Get lots of rejections! For a while, It may be a numbers game, just say hello, how are ya? to 1000 women and see if any stay to chat.
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[ - ] anon 5630732 0 points 1 yearApr 13, 2024 09:31:34 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] anon 9962466 0 points 1 yearApr 13, 2024 08:40:25 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] boekanier
[ - ] boekanier 0 points 1 yearApr 13, 2024 02:18:28 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ]anon
[ - ] anon 3124560 0 points 1 yearApr 13, 2024 01:36:09 ago (+0/-0)*
You don't have to be with anyone. Break the programming.
Learn that alone is not the same word as lonely.
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[ + ] Master_Foo
[ - ] Master_Foo 0 points 1 yearApr 12, 2024 22:08:28 ago (+1/-1)
2. Get a profile pic of you wearing a nice suit.
3. Friend zone a hot chick. Hot chicks know other hot chicks. Make Friend zoned hot chicks do the heavy lifting for you.
4. Forget it if you don't have money.
[ + ] anon
[ - ] anon 3416010 0 points 1 yearApr 13, 2024 00:43:03 ago (+0/-0)
3.5 Friendzone hot sugar momma (refer to 4.0)
4.0 This doesn't apply refer to 3.5
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[ - ] deleted 0 points 1 yearApr 14, 2024 03:03:54 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ]anon
[ - ] anon 2946951 0 points 1 yearApr 12, 2024 21:59:17 ago (+0/-0)
Be honest about which of these is true, and we can talk about solutions.
[ + ] anon
[ - ] anon 1878099 [op] 0 points 1 yearApr 12, 2024 22:04:13 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] anon
[ - ] anon 2946951 1 point 1 yearApr 12, 2024 22:14:07 ago (+1/-0)
Online is a waste of time. Been there, done it. If you are independent and well-off financially, I would legit pay an app/web developer to build a dating app thats only for you, or select invited men. It's been done before, and it worked.
Aside from that, I'd suggest something unorthodox which under normal circumstances everyone on here (including myself) would warn against, which is sending a photo of yourself, perhaps dressed casually or in a suit, to me. Seeing as you probably won't be doing that, I have no basis to know if you are genuinely a '5.2 out of 10'.
What I will recommend is working on posture, and a shirt with padded shoulders to enhance the visual effect of your lifting. Lot of women I've talked to have said shoulder broadness is more important than a mans face, and at least as equally important as a mans height (I would know, I'm short).
Posture does wonders for the general swagger of your gait, the presentation of apparent confidence, physicality, etc.
I started getting a lot more attention when I improved my posture.
Without having a deeper conversation, like through a messenger app (matrix is pretty good), I can't help you much further.
[ + ] anon
[ - ] anon 1878099 [op] 1 point 1 yearApr 12, 2024 22:19:20 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Sector2
[ - ] Sector2 1 point 1 yearApr 12, 2024 23:42:48 ago (+2/-1)
Mistake, and ouch. anon 2946951 has some good advice, except maybe for the dating app. Your height is a definite negative. Posture and self confidence will go a long way to make up for your height. Extra points if your self confidence is validated by your financial success, but money as bait is a terrible basis for a relationship. That should be more part of the background, unless you're looking for a short affair with a golddigger.
As anon 2946951 implied, you need a real life person to coach you towards more successful behaviors.
Too bad you weren't a boomer, because all of this was just how it worked. You'd talk to girls in your daily life, and sometimes both of you would want to hang out together.
[ + ] anon
[ - ] anon 1122015 1 point 1 yearApr 13, 2024 07:27:56 ago (+1/-0)
Cool man, you've been talking to bots good fucking job you retard.
I'm also 5'6". That shit doesn't matter. One of the gals I work with is cute as fuck and sends signals all the time. TOTALLY WOULD if her and I weren't both married. I have a massive crush on her but I'm not playing that game.
They can sense awkward. Exude confidence, even if you're faking it. Bonus is that niggers will notice the confidence too and are less likely to attempt to rob you.
[ + ] Joe_McCarthy
[ - ] Joe_McCarthy -1 points 1 yearApr 13, 2024 01:37:39 ago (+1/-2)
1. Use some variation of the apocalypse opener. Saves time. Women are total sluts now. They like it even if they say no.
2. Numbers game. You miss every shot you don't take.
3. Compliments. Dale Carnegie was right. To be successful socially you gotta make people feel good. When approaching women tell them they are beautiful very early. Either right before or after the apocalypse opener.
[ + ] anon
[ - ] anon 3215915 0 points 1 yearApr 13, 2024 01:42:55 ago (+0/-0)
No way that works.
Whats an apocalypse opener?
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[ + ] Joe_McCarthy
[ - ] Joe_McCarthy -1 points 1 yearApr 13, 2024 01:46:44 ago (+1/-2)
Apocalypse opener is PUA. You don't build comfort. You just ask her to fuck on first approach. Takes balls though. Most men, other than maybe niggers, lack it.
[ + ] anon
[ - ] anon 3215915 0 points 1 yearApr 13, 2024 01:48:36 ago (+0/-0)
Not the beautiful part. Its weird and puts out creep vibes.
[ + ] Joe_McCarthy
[ - ] Joe_McCarthy -1 points 1 yearApr 13, 2024 02:06:05 ago (+0/-1)
The apocalypse opener along with the numbers game works. Just don't get discouraged and keep dropping the bomb. The apocalypse opener is designed for same day lays but if she says no you ask her what her name is and try to exchange contact information. I STRONGLY advise you use the f word, as in ask her if she wants to fuck, rather than ask if she wants to have sex or some other weak sauce alternative to the real deal. The f word is visceral and activates the pussy.
[ + ] anon
[ - ] anon 3215915 1 point 1 yearApr 13, 2024 02:09:21 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Joe_McCarthy
[ - ] Joe_McCarthy -1 points 1 yearApr 13, 2024 02:11:28 ago (+0/-1)
Girls like being told they're beautiful though. You don't agree?
[ + ] anon
[ - ] anon 3215915 0 points 1 yearApr 13, 2024 02:19:01 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] anon
[ - ] anon 3374179 0 points 1 yearApr 13, 2024 03:30:06 ago (+0/-0)
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[ + ] Joe_McCarthy
[ - ] Joe_McCarthy -2 points 1 yearApr 13, 2024 13:43:31 ago (+0/-2)
Any human with a dick that has ever said it to any human with a pussy, more like. I can't think of anything that works better in a pinch. Needless to say the apocalypse opener carries an element of risk. I've been threatened with the police. Though never had them called.