submitted by MaryXmas to cars1 yearApr 28, 2024 21:11:33 ago (+10/-1) (cars)
Is this a difficult repair? I had the shop do it last Thanksgiving and the OEM one looks like it has cracked or will give out soon. It is right in the middle where the joint is. I need to replace the starter this week too so pass along your tips. 👍🏻
Ayup. You can search for manuals on free book sites as well if you need the engineering diagram or whatever. Just be sure to watch more than one video, you'll get a feel for what is needed, what can be skipped, and what is just downright stupid.
Bro, just take it to a shop and have a mechanic look at it. I respect that you want to do this on your own, but you aint that guy. Not everyone is and thats ok. I can tell by your post that you are going to run into issues, but if you must persist, here is my advice. You need to get the car running first do you have an electrical meter? Aka multimeter? Do you have voltage at the starter? What about the signal wire when you turn the key? If yes to both, install new starter, if no to former, check connections and main fuse OF THE BIG RED WIRE GOING FROM THE BATTERY TO THE STARTER. I can’t stress enough that those connections need to be clean and free of corrosion. if no to latter, check your relay(s) and fuses for your ign sys. If those are good, you need to find the point under your relay that comes from your key switch, if no signal upon turning key, you probably have a bad key switch. Wrenches? Sockets and ratchet? Drain pan(s)? You are going to want to pull a vacuum on the steering system to get any air out. Do you have a vacuum pump? Is it the high pressure line? Or the low pressure line? What types of fittings are on the ends of the lines? Use youtube go to harbor freight. Good luck. Ping me if you have q’s. Ive been a mechanic for 30 years and can guide you through this. Oh yeah, wear some nitril or w/e gloves when fucking with the ps stuff. Wear some safety glasses if you decide to climb under your car and you want to actually look up at your car. That’s probably the best advice i can give you here with what you provided.
[ - ] MaryXmas [op] 1 point 1 yearApr 29, 2024 12:49:08 ago (+1/-0)
Thanks Judy. Appreciate your advice. I ask a lot of questions, maybe that's why you think I am an idiot. I have done calipers, rotors, throttle bodies, and I will try to fix anything before I take it to a shop. My dad was a tradesman and I have half of harbor freight in my basement.
[ - ] MaryXmas [op] 1 point 1 yearApr 28, 2024 21:59:19 ago (+1/-0)
08 Civic sedan. Can't remember if it is lx or ex. The hose is broken right behind the engine at the top most point. Not sure if the hose is leaking but, I had some crunch on the tail end of a hard stop which makes me think it has something to do with this contraption. Master cylinder and break booster got replaced last Nov. The car also won't start. New battery, new terminals, no click. So that is going to happen. I am just glad to be stuck in the drive way, not at Denny's. I need to get it running then I can troubleshoot a little more.
starting issue - Its a fuse. Study fuse box (sticker) carefully and it will detail where spare fuses are of same amp. Fuse puller tool in fuse box. More than one fuse box but you probably want the one under hood.
Look for ignition or starter or something like that. you can pull and inspect any suspect fuses but not always obvious.
I mean, I don't understand what a power steering pump being near the frame has anything to do with anything? Is he afraid to bend the frame with a wrench or something? I don't get it.
[ - ] iSnark 1 point 1 yearApr 28, 2024 22:08:06 ago (+1/-0)
Well, I mean, it's only been just a hair over 4 months, I don't know if they warrantied it. If they did, it could have been a very limited Warranty, 30, 45, 60 days, or maybe long enough to get this repaired no cost. Worth a shot...
Agreed! AND, I don't know if you're like me, but there is always some "gotcha" hidden in the project, A bolt-head snaps off, special tool needed, etc... I used to do a lot of my own car repairs, maintenance I still do, but car repairs, brings a feeling of impending doom...
op is obviously confused. last nov his mechanic changed master cylinder, which has nothing to do with power steering hose. So that wouldnt be under warranty given it wasnt touched. More bizarre, is he says he heard a "crunch" in "[rear of vehicle]" after "hard stop" which made him think it had something to do with power steering hose?
So thats obviously a rear brake problem. which is odd that anyone would change the master cylinder but not advise on rear brakes. Mickey mouse mechanic? If new rear brakes then THAT would be a cause for warranty work, actually.
worse yet, is currently his car doesnt even attempt to start after replacing battery and batt terminals but he, for reasons that won't ever be understood, doesnt ask for help troubleshooting the car not starting - he's only interested in getting help on the hose. Wtaf??
The guy needs to add power steering fluid (if its even empty or low, sometimes hoses look broken at a glance but theyre just foam shrouds that go over the hose -- one would know if fucking power steering fluid was leaking everywhere), then, for the start problem, replace the relevant fuse, then perhaps only if fuses were not the problem (and we know its probably just a fuse), then replace the starter (assuming battery terminals on other end back to chassis are good) I had a car that the battery cables back to the car were bad/rusted, it seems to never be the starter these days, and THEN once the start problem is fixed; worry about the power steering hose LAST. 1/10 competency this guy. His first job under hood should not be replacing a high pressure hose, especially on a car that wont start. We dont even know if he knows that hes looking at a power steering hose. I've had a busted pressure line, it sprays hot steering fluid all over the engine bay every time you turn the steering wheel. If his is just seeping regardless of what then it's just the return line - not the whole kit. And wouldnt be reason for car not starting and not reason for rear brakes crunching. F-ing hell. Remind me to avoid the 2008 Honda Civic, btw, but to conclude my rant, do not send this guy back to his mechanic in an attempt to get free rework. Even if he somehow qualified, they'd just tell him his headlight fluid was low.
[ + ] observation1
[ - ] observation1 5 points 1 yearApr 28, 2024 21:13:18 ago (+5/-0)
You just need tools
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[ - ] Clubberlang 1 point 1 yearApr 28, 2024 21:45:49 ago (+1/-0)
Search the part # of your power steering pump bring that with you to an auto parts store.
The parts dudes will lead you in the right direction as long as you don't talk like a soytardfaggot.
Pass along your year,make and model.
[ + ] MaryXmas
[ - ] MaryXmas [op] 1 point 1 yearApr 28, 2024 21:59:19 ago (+1/-0)
The car also won't start. New battery, new terminals, no click. So that is going to happen. I am just glad to be stuck in the drive way, not at Denny's.
I need to get it running then I can troubleshoot a little more.
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[ - ] Clubberlang 3 points 1 yearApr 28, 2024 22:27:41 ago (+3/-0)
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Look for ignition or starter or something like that. you can pull and inspect any suspect fuses but not always obvious.
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Buy a "Chilton" or "Haynes" Auto Repair Manual for your specific year / model / make of vehicle.
- https://haynes.com/en-us/car-manuals/honda
- https://www.amazon.com/chilton-honda-civic-manual/s?k=chilton+honda+civic+manual
They give step by step detailed instructions to repair your own car. Most even list the specific special tools you need to help.
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So thats obviously a rear brake problem. which is odd that anyone would change the master cylinder but not advise on rear brakes. Mickey mouse mechanic? If new rear brakes then THAT would be a cause for warranty work, actually.
worse yet, is currently his car doesnt even attempt to start after replacing battery and batt terminals but he, for reasons that won't ever be understood, doesnt ask for help troubleshooting the car not starting - he's only interested in getting help on the hose. Wtaf??
The guy needs to add power steering fluid (if its even empty or low, sometimes hoses look broken at a glance but theyre just foam shrouds that go over the hose -- one would know if fucking power steering fluid was leaking everywhere), then, for the start problem, replace the relevant fuse, then perhaps only if fuses were not the problem (and we know its probably just a fuse), then replace the starter (assuming battery terminals on other end back to chassis are good) I had a car that the battery cables back to the car were bad/rusted, it seems to never be the starter these days, and THEN once the start problem is fixed; worry about the power steering hose LAST. 1/10 competency this guy. His first job under hood should not be replacing a high pressure hose, especially on a car that wont start. We dont even know if he knows that hes looking at a power steering hose. I've had a busted pressure line, it sprays hot steering fluid all over the engine bay every time you turn the steering wheel. If his is just seeping regardless of what then it's just the return line - not the whole kit. And wouldnt be reason for car not starting and not reason for rear brakes crunching. F-ing hell. Remind me to avoid the 2008 Honda Civic, btw, but to conclude my rant, do not send this guy back to his mechanic in an attempt to get free rework. Even if he somehow qualified, they'd just tell him his headlight fluid was low.
[ + ] JudyStroyer
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