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Finally getting a new computer, advice on what to get?

submitted by GreatSatan to AskUpgoat 1 yearJun 18, 2024 23:01:09 ago (+9/-0)     (AskUpgoat)

I've had my same computer now since 2011. It was a fucking beast back in the day and now it's an absolute piece of shit that can barely run any game now and it takes like 10 minutes to stop being slow once i turn it on. I kinda know what hardware to get but I was wondering if i should join the neckbeards and get Linux or should I just stay a microsoft cuck? Is Linux hard to use or has a lot of bullshit you have to deal with? Thanks



Edit" Thank you all for the advice. I think I will hang on to this computer for another 5 or so years.


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[ - ] germ22 7 points 1 yearJun 18, 2024 23:10:27 ago (+7/-0)

Build your own as opposed to pre build. You can get better hardware for the same price. Also you wont need to deal with a bunch of bloatware. It also makes upgrading in the future easier.

[ - ] CoronaHoax 1 point 1 yearJun 19, 2024 00:40:31 ago (+1/-0)

Pick your price and go on eBay and you’ll get the very best that money can buy.

[ - ] PotatoWhisperer2 4 points 1 yearJun 19, 2024 02:10:10 ago (+4/-0)

https://pcpartpicker.com/

What are you aiming for? What do you already have? Monitors? Keyboard, mice, etc?

You can boot both windows and linux.

[ - ] Master_Foo 4 points 1 yearJun 18, 2024 23:10:57 ago (+4/-0)

or should I just stay a microsoft cuck?
If you are asking the question, you haven't learned your lesson yet.

Go enjoy getting your balls stomped on by Pajeets for a few more years.

[ - ] No_way_oy_vey 3 points 1 yearJun 19, 2024 00:12:51 ago (+3/-0)*

Hard to say without knowing your use case and apps you need. Linux can be a great desktop OS if it has all the apps you need, even if it doesn't you can oftentimes just "emulate" windows apps on it. Linux does tend to take more know-how, but you get rewarded for it. Once you learn the basics, the system makes sense and you can do powerful things with ease, unlike windows, where if you want to do anything advanced, you have PowerShell and registry headaches galore, app configs littered randomly everywhere, etc. Linux is an open book. If I want to create a custom daemon/service, I merely go to the service directory, look at another service as an example and I can make one in minutes even when I had never done that before. All the configs/settings are in orderly places unlike esoteric windows RegEdit nonsense. Most things on linux are more intuitive. Windows is just the same old bloated OS year after year with countless layers of compounded Pajeet shit code stacked on top. With windows 11, they've got important settings/controls littered randomly between the ancient control panel and the new settings menus, with no rhyme or reason.Linux has almost everything I could want as a power user, but I do dual-boot windows for the sole purpose of gaming.

Gaming is still the least work to setup on Windows but can be done, depending on the game, on linux. Gaming is getting more gay by the day though, hardly anything worth playing, even for free. Not to mention WEF jews have explicitly said they want us to game more. It's a time-waster, motivation-destroyer, health-reducer, basically an excellent poison pill for remaining whites.

At this point I could never go back to windows for desktop use, open source is the way. Linux isn't perfect though. Trannies are doing a coup and seizing power in the development space. Hodge podge open source can sometimes lack a unified vision and result in less cohesive systems. You do usually get plenty of choices on flavor/distro of linux though. Sadly most distros also have gone to the dark side by supporting the systemd init system takeover, which started as an init system but eventually became this overly massive piece of the operating system through endless feature-creep. Apps have to be coded specially for it, hurting the ecosystem. Systemd is also a large identical attack surface across all these distros and it is more difficult to support alternative init systems which hurts users ability to choose. Open source OS collaboration is supposed to be about software doing one thing, and doing it well, and if you don't like it, you can modularly swap it out with a competing software to your heart's content. Systemd on the other hand is a metastasized cancer.

https://without-systemd.org/wiki/index_php/Main_Page/

Some people were moving to OpenBSD from linux, in the same way whites migrate down the the freeway a few exits 'til they see less blacks and move in. What I roughly gleamed was that there was still a value of meritocracy there, and its developers are comprised of good ol' boy greybeard types.

If you don't care about the systemd issue, you can try Linux Mint Cinnamon for an easy-mode linux. If you do care about the systemd issue, you could try Devuan, or any of the ones listed on that without-systemd.org ^ page I linked. I'm happy with voidlinux. It's harder to learn than most, with the benefit of being lightweight and customizeable where you pick all the UI/software you want manually. It uses Runit instead of systemd, it's rolling release with emphasis on stability so you never have to do full system upgrades. It has been damn good as a home server and desktop thus far, highly minimalist and customizable.

Most people would likely prefer Mint or Devuan.

[ - ] CoronaHoax 3 points 1 yearJun 19, 2024 00:38:53 ago (+3/-0)

You can actually virtual machine into your windows dual boot partition from your Linux build. There is just no reason to run windows directly anymore.

[ - ] No_way_oy_vey 0 points 12 monthsJun 20, 2024 01:00:28 ago (+0/-0)

I didn't realize that was an option, what are the advantages vs. standard windows VM?

I still dual boot, somewhat old-fashioned, but modernized with rEFInd boot manager, encrypted linux partition, and secureboot w/ signed linux kernel, it's quite secure unless the UEFI is compromised. With a VM you add the additional vector of VM-escape, although it is difficult to tell how much that matters. I don't know that any of this matters too much because I suspect (((they've))) been backdoored into our hardware for years now. I mostly take those encryption precautions to prevent low level threat actors a windows-based entryway into my linux partition.

My guess is that if (((they))) want access to your system, they already have it through Intel ME, AMD PSP, etc, unless you are a top-notch security professional who knows your hardware inside and out.

[ - ] CoronaHoax 1 point 12 monthsJun 20, 2024 06:52:34 ago (+1/-0)

QEMU will let you vm boot a perfectly normal hd partition.

So you can literally vm boot a partition that you can turn around and duel boot into.

[ - ] rhy 0 points 1 yearJun 19, 2024 04:33:05 ago (+0/-0)

Solid advice. Devuan or any systemd free system will be difficult to get graphics drivers working. I prefer mate over cinnamon. A lot.

Wish i could get devuan mint, honestly. Might build it myself eventually...

[ - ] No_way_oy_vey 0 points 12 monthsJun 20, 2024 01:11:21 ago (+0/-0)

Really? I haven't had issues with nvidia proprietary drivers on Void Linux without systemd. I haven't been distro-shopping in years, I saw some other goat recommended MX linux which I'd never even heard of. Might be a good option too. Void linux just hits the spot for me once I put i3wm on it. I tried KDE but I missed i3's well-made tiling window manager. Then I tried KDE with i3 as the window manager, hoping that would be the best of both worlds, but really it just added unnecessary complexity and headaches for not much reason. I was hoping KDE would allow me have a more automagical experience but with my weird/niche needs like having a dummy display for my AVR speaker amp that isn't connected to a display but annoyingly needs to have video sent to it in order to have audio over hdmi. KDE would be plenty automagical if I wasn't doing weird things as a result of weird standards though.

[ - ] CoronaHoax 2 points 1 yearJun 19, 2024 00:37:38 ago (+2/-0)

What do you need anything more powerful than 2011 for?

Get Linux anyways f it.

You’re actually using windows? wtf?

[ - ] John_doe 2 points 1 yearJun 18, 2024 23:35:19 ago (+2/-0)

Put an ssd in your current one and load MX linux on it. Should work fine. New games suck balls anyway.

[ - ] GreatSatan [op] 0 points 1 yearJun 18, 2024 23:37:12 ago (+0/-0)

What you mean? You can't play new games on it?

[ - ] John_doe 1 point 1 yearJun 18, 2024 23:43:55 ago (+1/-0)

Load steam and you can play lots of games. New games may be slow.

[ - ] GreatSatan [op] 0 points 1 yearJun 19, 2024 00:08:21 ago (+0/-0)

Why are they slow on Linux?

[ - ] John_doe 2 points 1 yearJun 19, 2024 00:11:07 ago (+2/-0)

Not slower on linux. You mentioned the pc is having trouble with new games. It wont be faster just because of linux but the computer itself wil be very fast. I am just referring to graphics. I guarantee you wont believe how fast the computer works.

[ - ] Kozel 0 points 1 yearJun 19, 2024 00:55:01 ago (+0/-0)

derp

[ - ] Not_a_redfugee 2 points 1 yearJun 18, 2024 23:09:51 ago (+2/-0)

Build ur own

[ - ] GreatSatan [op] 1 point 1 yearJun 18, 2024 23:36:10 ago (+1/-0)

Thats what i'm doing...

[ - ] rhy 1 point 1 yearJun 19, 2024 04:31:14 ago (+1/-0)

Linux mint mate. You can still play 99% of games.

Hit me back if you need more specific advice.

Lots of bad advice in this thread already.

[ - ] albatrosv15 1 point 1 yearJun 19, 2024 03:29:07 ago (+2/-1)

If you haven't used linux by now, don't switch. You want conveniency. Stay convenient.

[ - ] letsgetit 1 point 1 yearJun 19, 2024 02:39:46 ago (+2/-1)

Windows 11 is bloated AF. Get Win10 and strip it down with a decrapifier script. You can go linux but it remains to be seen how well windows apps will run. Mint used to be a decent build.

Hardware I try to source anything away from China and Taiwan. A tall task nowadays. Micron used to make some slick SSDs manufactured in Utah.

Razer makes some decent 'slim' keyboards if you want to conserve desk space. It has lasted years without issue so far.

Mouse grip is pretty dank but get dirty after a few years. Lizardskins is pretty good. Hyperglides for under the mouse if you want a slicker feel

[ - ] Kozel 1 point 1 yearJun 19, 2024 00:19:31 ago (+1/-0)

[ - ] clymer 0 points 1 yearJun 19, 2024 07:36:51 ago (+0/-0)

whenever I needed a new machine, I either pilfer an old one from work, or go on FB marketplace or CL, spend a couple hundred bucks on a 1/2 decent machine (three main variables are CPU, storage and memory: maximize all three, for the $$ you're willing to part with) - take it home and re-image it with ubuntu or mint. It's stupid-simple, and relatively cheap

[ - ] paul_neri 0 points 1 yearJun 19, 2024 07:27:24 ago (+0/-0)

Don't make it hard for yourself. Go to the closest Computer store; spend a grand and get a cheap, basic desk-top computer. My next PC isn't going to have the Word suite 'cos I don't use it.

PS: you're too old for games!

[ - ] clymer 2 points 1 yearJun 19, 2024 07:42:46 ago (+2/-0)

don't spend a grand at a computer store for a machine you're going to re-image with linux anyway. spend $200. on craigslist. local search here in NH~
dell optiplex 5040:
includes
-20"-22" HD Monitor, Keyboard and Mouse or I can add larger monitors for a bit more money.
-Intel i7-6700 Quad Core CPU @3.4-4.0 GHz
-DVD RW Drive
-GigE Lan Port
-USB3 ports
-DisplayPort x2 and HDMI Ports

+ 1TB drive and 16GB memory (Can always add more)

re-image with ubuntu, it will be fast and do everything you need it to

[ - ] paul_neri 0 points 1 yearJun 19, 2024 07:44:55 ago (+0/-0)

Dude...you know what you're doing whereas GreatSatan and I ...don't.

[ - ] jsac 0 points 1 yearJun 19, 2024 05:41:03 ago (+0/-0)

NVME2 mobo ftw!!!

[ - ] Nosferatjew 0 points 1 yearJun 19, 2024 03:52:00 ago (+1/-1)

Dude, get a Dell.

[ - ] Not_a_redfugee 0 points 1 yearJun 19, 2024 00:43:44 ago (+0/-0)

I really like Gigabyte Ultra Durable motherboards

[ - ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey 0 points 1 yearJun 18, 2024 23:19:18 ago (+0/-0)

Maybe have your old one rebuilt? I have a friend who can build hot rod computers for way less than a new one and way better. But, that’s what he does and I just buy stuff at Best Buy.

[ - ] jigganiggaboo -1 points 1 yearJun 19, 2024 03:39:31 ago (+0/-1)

You can still use Microsoft the only problem is you have to go into the registry to weed out all their bullshit Which is just as annoying as learning linux. So its really your pick