HT is reporting the kid has a $12,000 rifle. It was a bolt rifle though and there were 9 shots. Although it does look like the kid kinda knew what he was doing. His shooting stance in the TMZ vid is spot on.
So It seems a bit sus, but usually Hal is about 70% correct on his stuff...
No. A $12,000 rifle would be a custom handmade rifle made of a more expensive steel mix. Someone who has a gun like that will either be rich, or would be such an exceptional sportsman that they wouldn't have missed.
Who trained him? How did he know that roof would not be under protection or watched? How did he carry a rifle in broad daylight from his car and up a ladder without being seen? Where was he parked?
[ - ] dass 2 points 9 monthsJul 14, 2024 16:49:25 ago (+2/-0)
Thats the worst part - he was seen and law enforcement where all fcking retards because they never sent anyone to actually go look - just stood around on their radios (likely unable to leave their assigned area) waiting for someone else to go check. Complete (deliberate) diffusion of responsibility. No one able to act on initiative - it all has to be okayed from someone higher.
In his manifesto, Anders Breivik explained, that since you are either getting killed or put lifelong in prison anyways, you can get a bunch of credit cards an max them out to get short time financing. Perhaps this guy did just that.
Doubt it was a .338 lapua or the Presidents ear would be gone as justalover says. Lot's of AR-15s can and do shoot sub-MOA FreeinTX. Every Colt competion that went out the door was test fired to be sub-moa or it didn't go out the door. To the non-shooters, that means it would put 3 rounds in a hole under 1" in diameter at 100 yards, and a hole measuring under 2" diameter at 200 yards etc. Those came with a Nikon Scope that had a 5.56 bullet drop compensator, so even a dumb kid could be hitting that range easy.
Regardless, it's stunning he could get 8 or 9 shots off that close to the president. I have no doubt this was real and not a "set up" or "false flag", a "setup by Trump" or some of the other things being claimed.
Wall Street Journal says that the father bought the rifle for the kid, and they note that it was an "AR". They don't say AR-15 which would indicate caliber of 5.56/.223, so it could have been an AR-10 and shooting .308. "Could" doesn't mean it's likely, it's likely shooting .223 given how popular that platform is and how soft/quiet the shots sounded. My money is on it being something like a Bushmaster or Smith & Wesson M&P15 Sport, both of which are popular and in the price range a social worker dad would likely spring for. It could have been a sub-$500 purchase at the time (although prices have gone up) and still be a solid/well built firearm that would likely get sub-3 moa and possibly 1" MOA.
Yes. Standard issue AR is a 3 MOA rifle. That's 4.5" of margin at 150 yards if the shooter had a good scope and beaded the center of Trump's head in calm winds.
The shooter was not a pro, still don't know what scope he had, what rifle he had, and it was very gusty.
A miss is very possible given the circumstances. The 1st shot would be the only measured shot, especially for an amateur. And, an amateur under tremendous pressure, hurried because people were calling him out, shooting at a former president and knowing you'll be killed immediately.
And he did hit other people. 3 in fact. 2 are now dead.
So three people were hit but not killed? Where is the footage? I can tell you that 6 million jews died in the Holocaust. Doesn't mean it happened. I haven't heard a single thing about anybody else getting hit. Genuinely I haven't and if you know more about it, please share.
A head shot at 150 yards with a standard 3 moa AR15, shooting at the President of the b United States, knowing you will be immediately killed afterwards, is not an easy shot for an average shooter. It's just not.
One died, shot to the head. At least two were injured.
Who was shot in the head? The shooter?
What's weird is the here was a ladder to the roof and the SS did not see it.
Well, if it was a fake and gay production, the shooter would need access to the roof and SS and DHS would have to pretend like they didn't know there was access to the roof.
The shooter was about 150 ft away, it should have been an easy shot. But he was spotted and had to rush, and he was not skilled.
Trump is notorious for having seating directly behind him during these rallies. There are never empty seats. If a novice shooter let off nine rounds while aiming at Trump, grazing his ear with one, I would expect to see a lot more Carnage behind Trump.
Is there proof the event was actually happening live in Butler, Pennsylvania ? ie- witnesses who are not glowniggers who can corroborate the sequence of events; such as with mobile phone video; where are all those? Is that the real Trump or a body double? Has Trump been dead since Dec 2020 ? His first video after the rigged election was sketch AF ie- about what you'd expect their AI tech to be at given what is publically available now. Has their been any significant proof of life in recent years? How would you confirm this without being a close friend or family?
Is there proof the event was actually happening live in Butler, Pennsylvania
Would jews stage a fake assassination at an event in Butler, PA? Yes. They stage shit all the time. They staged an entire Holocaust. The default is fake and gay. Maybe you're just as retarded as a faggot on Twitter or Reddit. Maybe you watch the news and soak it in as objective reality. If so, I'm confused why you be on a site where people openly deny the Holocaust. How do you justify claiming anything as objective reality when all you have is an official event reported to you by officials?
"Ohh there were whiteness." Really? There were people that seen a guy with a gun. Pretty standard shit for a shooting hoax.
My point was it might be easier to do a staged event like this at a studio set than to do one live; if the entire Butler PA event was a psyop they wouldn't even need to involve civilians not on payroll to perform the 'stunt' and can take all the time and takes they need for the choreography.
Have literally not seen actual proof the event we are shown took place in Butler.
No. The whole point of such an event is to have useful idiots be their eyewitnesses. Every eyewitness at this event has the same story. They saw a shooter. Reported him before anything happened. They were confused why nobody was doing anything about it.
The eyewitnesses are not in on the hoax but they are part of it. Most likely, they were not supposed to notice the shooter before he shot his gun. They were supposed to witness an assassination attempt, then witness the assassin get terminated, then witness the aftermath. When you make a tweet saying, "calling this a hoax is ridiculous, My grandmother was there and saw the shooter" is the goal. If it were made in a Hollywood basement, it would get absolutely shredded. Nobody trusts the government, but they trust their grandmother that was at the event. The same exact shit happened at Mandalay Bay. Most people were rushed out, a handful were crisis actors. Everybody that was rushed out in a panicked hury assumed that those actors were real victims. They went on to make tweets and argue with people that called it a hoax.
[ + ] s23erdctfvyg
[ - ] s23erdctfvyg 5 points 9 monthsJul 14, 2024 11:53:57 ago (+5/-0)
Someone who has a gun like that will either be rich, or would be such an exceptional sportsman that they wouldn't have missed.
[ + ] Spaceman84
[ - ] Spaceman84 3 points 9 monthsJul 14, 2024 13:17:44 ago (+3/-0)*
[ + ] Anus_Expander
[ - ] Anus_Expander 2 points 9 monthsJul 14, 2024 12:33:16 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] dass
[ - ] dass 2 points 9 monthsJul 14, 2024 16:49:25 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Anus_Expander
[ - ] Anus_Expander 0 points 9 monthsJul 15, 2024 09:12:18 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] observation1
[ - ] observation1 2 points 9 monthsJul 14, 2024 11:28:06 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Tallest_Skil
[ - ] Tallest_Skil 1 point 9 monthsJul 14, 2024 14:25:23 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] glooper
[ - ] glooper [op] 1 point 9 monthsJul 14, 2024 13:17:06 ago (+1/-0)
https://www.guns.com/firearms/rifles/bolt-action/accuracy-international-axsr-folding-rifle-338-lapua-mag-bolt-action-5-rounds-2-7-barrel-used?p=576258
I'm still not sold on this, but it does kinda match the silhouette from the TMZ video.
[ + ] JustALover
[ - ] JustALover 2 points 9 monthsJul 14, 2024 14:00:48 ago (+2/-0)
If trump was hit, it was by shrapnel from a miss somewhere else.
It's more likely just a squirt of ketchup from some SS zogbot.
[ + ] DitchPig
[ - ] DitchPig 0 points 9 monthsJul 14, 2024 14:06:22 ago (+0/-0)
Anyone who owns that weapon wouldn't miss at that range.
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 9 monthsJul 14, 2024 12:23:29 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] fritz_maurentod
[ - ] fritz_maurentod 1 point 9 monthsJul 14, 2024 11:45:26 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] beece
[ - ] beece 0 points 9 monthsJul 14, 2024 18:12:36 ago (+0/-0)*
Regardless, it's stunning he could get 8 or 9 shots off that close to the president. I have no doubt this was real and not a "set up" or "false flag", a "setup by Trump" or some of the other things being claimed.
Wall Street Journal says that the father bought the rifle for the kid, and they note that it was an "AR". They don't say AR-15 which would indicate caliber of 5.56/.223, so it could have been an AR-10 and shooting .308. "Could" doesn't mean it's likely, it's likely shooting .223 given how popular that platform is and how soft/quiet the shots sounded. My money is on it being something like a Bushmaster or Smith & Wesson M&P15 Sport, both of which are popular and in the price range a social worker dad would likely spring for. It could have been a sub-$500 purchase at the time (although prices have gone up) and still be a solid/well built firearm that would likely get sub-3 moa and possibly 1" MOA.
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty -1 points 9 monthsJul 14, 2024 11:06:15 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 2 points 9 monthsJul 14, 2024 12:27:45 ago (+2/-0)*
The shooter was not a pro, still don't know what scope he had, what rifle he had, and it was very gusty.
A miss is very possible given the circumstances. The 1st shot would be the only measured shot, especially for an amateur. And, an amateur under tremendous pressure, hurried because people were calling him out, shooting at a former president and knowing you'll be killed immediately.
And he did hit other people. 3 in fact. 2 are now dead.
[ + ] glooper
[ - ] glooper [op] 0 points 9 monthsJul 14, 2024 11:07:04 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] McNasty -2 points 9 monthsJul 14, 2024 11:13:29 ago (+1/-3)
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 1 point 9 monthsJul 14, 2024 12:31:58 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Cantaloupe
[ - ] Cantaloupe 0 points 9 monthsJul 14, 2024 11:21:59 ago (+0/-0)
What's weird is the here was a ladder to the roof and the SS did not see it.
And DHS and others limited the security.
The shooter was about 150 ft away, it should have been an easy shot. But he was spotted and had to rush, and he was not skilled.
[ + ] FreeinTX
[ - ] FreeinTX 3 points 9 monthsJul 14, 2024 12:30:49 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty -1 points 9 monthsJul 14, 2024 11:31:57 ago (+0/-1)
Who was shot in the head? The shooter?
Well, if it was a fake and gay production, the shooter would need access to the roof and SS and DHS would have to pretend like they didn't know there was access to the roof.
Trump is notorious for having seating directly behind him during these rallies. There are never empty seats. If a novice shooter let off nine rounds while aiming at Trump, grazing his ear with one, I would expect to see a lot more Carnage behind Trump.
[ + ] Spaceman84
[ - ] Spaceman84 1 point 9 monthsJul 14, 2024 13:19:11 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty 0 points 9 monthsJul 14, 2024 16:57:57 ago (+0/-0)
And grazed Trump's here but didn't go through his brain? Makes sense.
[ + ] reptillian
[ - ] reptillian -1 points 9 monthsJul 14, 2024 21:45:47 ago (+0/-1)
ie- witnesses who are not glowniggers who can corroborate the sequence of events; such as with mobile phone video; where are all those? Is that the real Trump or a body double? Has Trump been dead since Dec 2020 ? His first video after the rigged election was sketch AF ie- about what you'd expect their AI tech to be at given what is publically available now. Has their been any significant proof of life in recent years? How would you confirm this without being a close friend or family?
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty 0 points 9 monthsJul 14, 2024 22:41:34 ago (+0/-0)
Would jews stage a fake assassination at an event in Butler, PA? Yes. They stage shit all the time. They staged an entire Holocaust. The default is fake and gay. Maybe you're just as retarded as a faggot on Twitter or Reddit. Maybe you watch the news and soak it in as objective reality. If so, I'm confused why you be on a site where people openly deny the Holocaust. How do you justify claiming anything as objective reality when all you have is an official event reported to you by officials?
"Ohh there were whiteness." Really? There were people that seen a guy with a gun. Pretty standard shit for a shooting hoax.
[ + ] reptillian
[ - ] reptillian -1 points 9 monthsJul 15, 2024 00:16:40 ago (+0/-1)
Have literally not seen actual proof the event we are shown took place in Butler.
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty 0 points 9 monthsJul 15, 2024 20:22:01 ago (+0/-0)*
The eyewitnesses are not in on the hoax but they are part of it. Most likely, they were not supposed to notice the shooter before he shot his gun. They were supposed to witness an assassination attempt, then witness the assassin get terminated, then witness the aftermath. When you make a tweet saying, "calling this a hoax is ridiculous, My grandmother was there and saw the shooter" is the goal. If it were made in a Hollywood basement, it would get absolutely shredded. Nobody trusts the government, but they trust their grandmother that was at the event. The same exact shit happened at Mandalay Bay. Most people were rushed out, a handful were crisis actors. Everybody that was rushed out in a panicked hury assumed that those actors were real victims. They went on to make tweets and argue with people that called it a hoax.
[ + ] PoundOfFlesh
[ - ] PoundOfFlesh 0 points 9 monthsJul 14, 2024 11:22:52 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] Conspirologist
[ - ] Conspirologist -2 points 9 monthsJul 14, 2024 14:16:40 ago (+0/-2)
[ + ] ruck_feddit
[ - ] ruck_feddit 0 points 9 monthsJul 14, 2024 18:10:35 ago (+0/-0)
You're a fucking faggot; kill yourself.