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Talking to a globohomo, I was thinking about how the pressurized atmosphere can somehow exist next to the near perfect vacuum of space without any kind of physical barrier in between them. I thought, if gravity is weakest at the very edge of the atmosphere but strong enough to prevent gases from expanding into the near perfect vacuum of space, I should be able to prevent gases from escaping into a far weaker vacuum on the surface of the Earth where gravity is strongest. This would be common sense.
So I ran my idea of an experiment through chatGPT and this is what I got. Seems contradicting. The excuse I'm given for why gravity cannot prevent gases from expanding into a vacuum on the surface is pressure differentiation. The experiment called for the exact conditions that are at the edge of the atmosphere. So I don't know why it wouldn't work on the surface. But regardless, theoretically, if the heliocentric claim that gravity is what's preventing the atmosphere from expanding into the the vacuum of space, anyone should be able to hold a weak vacuum in their hand and gravity should be able to prevent air from going in it.
Obviously, Space is fake and gay and you're kind of retarded if you actually believe that a pressurized atmosphere would exist next to a near perfect vacuum without barrier in between them. Gravity has no effect on gases when it comes to pressure equalization.
[ + ] hylo
[ - ] hylo 1 point 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 10:14:40 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 12:29:50 ago (+0/-1)
This is irrelevant. Explain why gravity would act different in a 5 square foot area as opposed to a 100 square foot area? It doesn't. I don't weigh any different if I'm standing in a small room or outside. As for the experiment that I gave chatgpt, I said it had the same exact conditions as the edge of the atmosphere. This means it had the same pressure.
The reality is there is no such thing as a perfect vacuum. There is no such thing as empty space. A vacuum is taking the molecules that are in a space, and stretching them out. It's not like they're just floating around in empty space if they are in a vacuum. If you put an inflated balloon in a vacuum chamber, it will expand.
[ + ] hylo
[ - ] hylo 1 point 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 13:11:23 ago (+1/-0)
But, you said it yourself, there isn't a perfect vacuum. I'm not an expert so I can't give you the answer but atmosphere rarifies over a very large area. Your room can only capture a very tiny potion of that, and it will be for all intents and purposes, homogeneous in gas density.
Your vacuum chamber in the room is also redundant, because I think you're asking, in a way, why doesn't gravity pull down all the molecules to the floor, eventually? That is where I don't really know why, but if I were to guess, I would say that they have a lot of energy that keeps them traveling and bouncing around. Maybe they bounce off the floor and then back up, and there is little to no resistance to them traveling, as there is no friction from collisions with other molecules. When you open up your vacuum chamber they will just bounce in there, too.
Why atmosphere is denser near the ground is because there are way more molecules and they bounce much more often and don't get to travel quite far. The mass of all molecules above keeps them down and the effect is cumulative over a very long distance, to space.
Maybe you're thinking about water, why doesn't water just go up in the air? I think that is because of the density. Water molecules are touching nearly at all times because they are heavy, while air molecules (like O2, N, and other gases) aren't as heavy and bounce off each other. There is probably some threshold that is a limit between gravitational acceleration and molecule/atom weight. Maybe on a planet with higher gravity you'd see air liquefy or something like that.
Anyway, ChatGPT ain't your answer, and I'm actually glad because that means it won't take all our jobs.
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] -2 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 13:14:25 ago (+0/-2)
You're trying to make the experiment too complicated. I can even give the advantage to gravity. I can make there be more pressure in the room, less pressure in the room. It doesn't matter. Gravity will never prevent gas from expanding into a vacuum. That is the observable reality that you can personally see and verify. The only reason you believe that that is not reality at the edge of the atmosphere is because of a jewish lie.
[ + ] GrayDragon
[ - ] GrayDragon 1 point 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 09:55:01 ago (+1/-0)
Side note: the Earth does lose molecules to space, albeit extremely slow (also partly due to solar winds, which in turn are reduced by the magnetic fields, not just by "defeating" gravity).
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 15:05:54 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Salacious_Salicylic
[ - ] Salacious_Salicylic 0 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 08:53:18 ago (+0/-0)
I don't know what the accepted science model answer to it is either. Its a weird one.
[ + ] qwop
[ - ] qwop 3 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 09:01:40 ago (+3/-0)
Flat earthers are experts at hypnotizing themselves and others, that's the real explanation why people get confused.
That is the whole point of FE; to confuse.
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 15:17:03 ago (+0/-1)
Stop crying about how flat earthers can't understand and explain how it's possible?
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 12:31:36 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] qwop
[ - ] qwop 1 point 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 13:41:24 ago (+1/-0)
All that knowledge and science, which enables you to see and read this text that resides inside another tiny box at the other side of the world.
You can't cherry pick what they "lie about" to fit your agenda if you're content on using the technology of "the liers" to tell us "they lie about everything".
If they lie about everything, you need to flush your computer down the toilet, because that should be a lie too. Same goes with electricity. Stop using it.
You can't have it both ways. You need stop trying to drag others into your delusion. Everything you say is a contradiction, and proves you're either doing in intentionally, or you are extremely stupid.
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 13:45:31 ago (+0/-1)
So if somebody is known for lying, you should still trust them over your lying eyes?
[ + ] Metanoid
[ - ] Metanoid 1 point 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 15:04:29 ago (+1/-0)
Do you mean Occam's razor?
You have got to be a troll. I can't imagine anyone so intentionally stupid.
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 15:07:39 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] Steelerfish
[ - ] Steelerfish 1 point 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 08:14:27 ago (+1/-0)
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[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 12:32:30 ago (+0/-1)
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[ - ] Badgeroo 2 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 08:13:09 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] firestation7
[ - ] firestation7 3 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 08:46:16 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 12:34:00 ago (+0/-1)
You're going to have to explain how gravity works then because my understanding is that it is the bending of space-time. I'm not really sure how that can manifest in a physical world since space time is just a concept. Maybe you can enlighten me.
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 15:15:49 ago (+0/-1)
After all, The Apollo missions were developed by jews.
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-03-01/who-got-america-to-the-moon-a-unlikely-collaboration-of-jews-and-former-nazi-engineers
[ + ] Badgeroo
[ - ] Badgeroo 0 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 15:24:54 ago (+0/-0)
Gravity isn't a hard concept, but a bunch of wankers make a living making it confusing.
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 15:26:17 ago (+0/-0)
Now you have a even bigger problem. Gravity was the excuse they gave us when we asked how the pressurized atmosphere can exist next to a near perfect vacuum. If you are now claiming that it is not gravity stopping the pressurized atmosphere from escaping, what is stopping it from escaping?
[ + ] Badgeroo
[ - ] Badgeroo 0 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 16:27:32 ago (+0/-0)
When I say it doesn't stop gases escaping I mean there are plenty of ways things can scoop it out and send it off into space. Possiblity of returning to atmospere somewhere else is likely.
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 16:33:49 ago (+0/-0)
Lol. Gravity? So we're back to square one. If gravity can prevent gasses from escaping into a vacuum at the edge of the atmosphere we're gravity is at it weakest, then it should be able to do the same where gravity is stronger.
[ + ] Badgeroo
[ - ] Badgeroo 0 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 18:35:33 ago (+0/-0)
The vacuum of space is just a less dense material but nothing is above it forcing it into the planet.
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 11 monthsJul 21, 2024 20:48:23 ago (+0/-0)
This is irrelevant. An object has wait because it is matter. A vacuum is a chamber void of matter. So you can't claim any of those effects are occurring inside the vacuum chamber. Why can't gravity prevent gases from expanding into that vacuum chamber?
[ + ] Badgeroo
[ - ] Badgeroo 0 points 11 monthsJul 22, 2024 16:13:12 ago (+0/-0)
I can stand on top of a vacuum box and the Earth will still try to suck me in.
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 11 monthsJul 22, 2024 16:16:13 ago (+0/-0)
If you're not going to stay into the paradigm of relativity for your argument, I don't know why you're talking to me.
E = mc^2
Stick to this.
[ + ] TheYiddler
[ - ] TheYiddler 5 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 07:19:28 ago (+5/-0)
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 12:09:37 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] TheYiddler
[ - ] TheYiddler 0 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 15:31:35 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 15:45:23 ago (+0/-0)
Irrelevant. I don't care how you define gases. Either gravity can prevent gases from expanding into a vacuum or not.
[ + ] TheYiddler
[ - ] TheYiddler 0 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 22:58:55 ago (+0/-0)
Earth is big enough to hold onto nitrogen but not helium. Mars can't hold onto oxygen. It barely has an atmosphere at all. Jupiter can hold onto hydrogen.
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 11 monthsJul 21, 2024 20:41:56 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] TheYiddler
[ - ] TheYiddler 0 points 11 monthsJul 22, 2024 09:54:19 ago (+0/-0)
I'm not sure what experiment would satisfy your insane requirements. Working with gasses in a near vacuum is hard and requires expensive equipment. Maybe the functioning mechanics of an oil vacuum pump, like that found in a freeze drier, would be enough.
[ + ] Prairie
[ - ] Prairie 2 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 05:52:12 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 12:35:58 ago (+1/-1)
Because the ball would come back down due to gravity. The same gravity that when it's at its weakest point can hold gases down when they are next to the extreme near perfect vacuum of space. If gravity is what is causing those gases to stay down, why can't it cause those same gases to stay down next to a weaker vacuum chamber at the surface where gravity is even stronger, and I'm using a weaker vacuum?
[ + ] Prairie
[ - ] Prairie 0 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 17:57:23 ago (+0/-0)
Also Gay-Lussac's law, "The pressure exerted by a given mass and constant volume of an ideal gas on the sides of its container is directly proportional to its absolute temperature." At a low temperature, the pressure would be very low.
Your room with room-temperature gas is moving much faster than the gas at the edge of the atmosphere.
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 11 monthsJul 21, 2024 20:50:41 ago (+0/-1)
This is irrelevant. Gravity is not affected by temperature. A frozen ice cube weighs the same whether it's frozen or melted into water.
Plus you are not even subscribing to the claim of heliocentrism. You are adding things that they don't claim without any substantiating at all. They claim that gravity at its weakest point can prevent gases from escaping into a near perfect vacuum. Why can't gravity prevent gases from escaping into a weaker vacuum on the surface of the Earth where gravity is strongest?
[ + ] Prairie
[ - ] Prairie 0 points 11 monthsJul 21, 2024 21:38:43 ago (+0/-0)
This is irrelevant. Gravity is not affected by temperature. A frozen ice cube weighs the same whether it's frozen or melted into water.
I'm sorry, I thought you wanted to understand the topic. If someone is explaining something that you don't understand, you need to take in the information. If you don't understand something, you need to ask questions so you can understand it. Dismissing what could teach you just prevents learning. I assure you, temperature is very relevant to this issue. You might look up what heat is a measure of, and escape velocity.
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 11 monthsJul 21, 2024 21:42:53 ago (+0/-0)
No. Here's an analogy to help you understand what's going on. I'm pointing out to you that the chimney isn't even attached to the building. Therefore the Holocaust didn't happen. Asking you to explain to me how the Holocaust could happen if the chimney isn't attached to the building does not mean I want to hear your bullshit. I'm just pointing out how retarded it is.
[ + ] Prairie
[ - ] Prairie 0 points 11 monthsJul 21, 2024 22:53:02 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 11 monthsJul 21, 2024 22:57:24 ago (+0/-0)
And we can't find any of the jewish remains because the Nazis ground all their bones up into a dust.
I don't care about your jewish fantasies. If you're going to make a claim like that, you have to prove it.
[ + ] Prairie
[ - ] Prairie 0 points 11 monthsJul 21, 2024 23:05:38 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 11 monthsJul 21, 2024 23:09:12 ago (+0/-0)
I never made the claim that temperature affects gases escaping into a vacuum. In fact, I would make the claim that nothing will prevent gases from escaping into a vacuum. My evidence for this is that it doesn't exist. There is not one single example of anything preventing gases from expanding into a vacuum.
Now back to The original topic. If gravity at its weakest point can prevent gases from escaping into a near perfect vacuum, why can't it prevent gases from leaking into a weaker vacuum on the surface where gravity is at its strongest?
I don't care about temperature or anything else. I'm just concerned with the claim that gravity can prevent gases from expanding into a vacuum.
[ + ] dass
[ - ] dass 2 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 05:49:40 ago (+2/-0)
Electric (plasma/ magnetic) universe seems more appropriate.
but i'm way too half retarded to explain any of it succinctly.
I'd make a terrible teacher (but then again with that understanding - i'd probably fit right in).
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 12:22:12 ago (+0/-1)
https://youtu.be/CSIPolpvjBY
The Bible would describe these valence shells as different levels of heaven or "firmaments." It also describes the great flood as the windows of heaven opening up and water pouring in. Like if there was a weak point in that valence shell, and liquid hydrogen was leaking in. The great flood.
[ + ] Metanoid
[ - ] Metanoid 3 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 05:38:45 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] -2 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 12:07:28 ago (+0/-2)
[ + ] TheYiddler
[ - ] TheYiddler 0 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 23:03:44 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 11 monthsJul 21, 2024 20:41:04 ago (+0/-1)
No. That is not what relativity claims. But even if I humored that, why can't it prevent gases from expanding into a weaker vacuum if the gravity is the same at the surface?
[ + ] TheYiddler
[ - ] TheYiddler 0 points 11 monthsJul 22, 2024 09:47:27 ago (+0/-0)
Stop demonstrating nigger tier intellect.
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 11 monthsJul 22, 2024 10:05:40 ago (+0/-0)
It is irrelevant. I can use a vacuum chamber significantly weaker and still, gravity cannot prevent gasses from escaping into it.
I'm not sure if it's your jew IQ or what but this is a very simple concept. The claim is that gravity at the edge of the atmosphere can prevent gases from expanding into a near perfect vacuum. Why can it no longer do it if I decrease the power of the vacuum?
[ + ] TheYiddler
[ - ] TheYiddler 0 points 11 monthsJul 22, 2024 23:07:28 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 11 monthsJul 22, 2024 23:09:00 ago (+0/-1)
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[ - ] TheYiddler 0 points 11 monthsJul 22, 2024 23:15:30 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 11 monthsJul 22, 2024 23:17:03 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] NoRefunds
[ - ] NoRefunds 2 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 05:13:35 ago (+2/-0)
Yep and people will call you retarded for noticing.
[ + ] Panic
[ - ] Panic 8 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 03:44:58 ago (+10/-2)
Do carry on.
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] 2 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 04:05:50 ago (+4/-2)
[ + ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod
[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod 2 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 04:56:09 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 15:01:06 ago (+0/-1)
Don't be fuckin retarded. Russia has no interest in Owen Benjamin. Don't pretend like jews don't have programs like JIDF.
[ + ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod
[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod 0 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 21:53:41 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] dass
[ - ] dass 0 points 11 monthsJul 21, 2024 02:29:01 ago (+0/-0)
Posting anti-Hiliary memes ??.
Ukraine/ nato bad vides ?/
'where is Epstein's client list?'
Or MAGA kool aid ??
[ + ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod
[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod -1 points 11 monthsJul 21, 2024 03:42:06 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] dass
[ - ] dass 0 points 11 monthsJul 21, 2024 07:28:25 ago (+0/-0)
I'm genuinely curious what is russian propaganda.
[ + ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod
[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod 0 points 11 monthsJul 21, 2024 07:35:23 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] dass 0 points 11 monthsJul 21, 2024 07:48:51 ago (+0/-0)*
[ + ] McNasty
[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 11 monthsJul 21, 2024 20:43:35 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod 1 point 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 04:52:17 ago (+1/-0)