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ChatGPT contradicting itself when trying to explain the relationship between gravity, pressure, and vacuum.

submitted by McNasty to whatever 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 02:35:01 ago (+13/-10)     (whatever)

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Talking to a globohomo, I was thinking about how the pressurized atmosphere can somehow exist next to the near perfect vacuum of space without any kind of physical barrier in between them. I thought, if gravity is weakest at the very edge of the atmosphere but strong enough to prevent gases from expanding into the near perfect vacuum of space, I should be able to prevent gases from escaping into a far weaker vacuum on the surface of the Earth where gravity is strongest. This would be common sense.

So I ran my idea of an experiment through chatGPT and this is what I got. Seems contradicting. The excuse I'm given for why gravity cannot prevent gases from expanding into a vacuum on the surface is pressure differentiation. The experiment called for the exact conditions that are at the edge of the atmosphere. So I don't know why it wouldn't work on the surface. But regardless, theoretically, if the heliocentric claim that gravity is what's preventing the atmosphere from expanding into the the vacuum of space, anyone should be able to hold a weak vacuum in their hand and gravity should be able to prevent air from going in it.

Obviously, Space is fake and gay and you're kind of retarded if you actually believe that a pressurized atmosphere would exist next to a near perfect vacuum without barrier in between them. Gravity has no effect on gases when it comes to pressure equalization.


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[ - ] Panic 8 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 03:44:58 ago (+10/-2)

Everybody gives you stit, but I enjoy your posts and comments. Not a partisan on this topic so it's all interesting and fun. I notice that you prestnt factual information while your detractors attack you on a personal level rather than present evidence supporting their claims. You're pretty tough taking all the crap they sling.

Do carry on.

[ - ] McNasty [op] 2 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 04:05:50 ago (+4/-2)

Thanks man. They're just paid shills. They do it for a living. You can tell because they don't have any particular interests. They constantly make random shit posts farming for up-goats so they can ratio people like me calling them out. It's usually something that nobody is interested in commenting under. Has a title that is self-evident and agreeable. Like "Jared kushner and his jew bracelet" or "pedo joe sniffs another one." They're just low level posts that people will up-goat without participating. Just keep an eye on who they are. It will help you discern what's actually going on here. They desperately try to fit in and most people never read all these comments so they don't know any better. But thanks for noticing.

[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod 2 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 04:56:09 ago (+2/-0)

russia operates huge troll networks which obviously target right wing sites, pretty sure they're all mindlessly pro-russia. it starts to tell when you prove them wrong and show unequivocally that russia isn't on our side yet they just keep repeating the same crap over and over the next day regardless.

[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 15:01:06 ago (+0/-1)

pretty sure they're all mindlessly pro-russia.

Don't be fuckin retarded. Russia has no interest in Owen Benjamin. Don't pretend like jews don't have programs like JIDF.

[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod 0 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 21:53:41 ago (+0/-0)

i'm pretty sure there's a fair few more bots focused on posting russian propaganda than anti-owen benjamin propaganda........

[ - ] dass 0 points 11 monthsJul 21, 2024 02:29:01 ago (+0/-0)

Curious, What is Russian propaganda ?/

Posting anti-Hiliary memes ??.
Ukraine/ nato bad vides ?/
'where is Epstein's client list?'
Or MAGA kool aid ??

[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod -1 points 11 monthsJul 21, 2024 03:42:06 ago (+0/-1)

Very common for bots to have weird spacing and grammar style like you just posted...

[ - ] dass 0 points 11 monthsJul 21, 2024 07:28:25 ago (+0/-0)

Lol wut?/
I'm genuinely curious what is russian propaganda.

[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod 0 points 11 monthsJul 21, 2024 07:35:23 ago (+0/-0)

pro-russian stuff, obviously. anti-west stuff, calling america satanic while framing russia as a bastion of christianity and morals. promoting secessionism in america.

[ - ] dass 0 points 11 monthsJul 21, 2024 07:48:51 ago (+0/-0)*

Ok sure gotcha, however there's plenty enough to truthfully critique the West of sans framing russia as some pinnacle of morality.

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 11 monthsJul 21, 2024 20:43:35 ago (+0/-0)

Lol. Russian propaganda is retarded. There's a worldwide cult. The people running that identify as jews. Don't pretend like you're based if you're going to pretend like Russia has somehow solved their jew problem.

[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod 1 point 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 04:52:17 ago (+1/-0)

yep those callout threads where they just post a snarky pic or something is very feminine-like behaviour.

[ - ] NoRefunds 2 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 05:13:35 ago (+2/-0)

Space is fake and gay and you're kind of retarded if you actually believe that a pressurized atmosphere would exist next to a near perfect vacuum without barrier in between them.

Yep and people will call you retarded for noticing.

[ - ] Metanoid 3 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 05:38:45 ago (+3/-0)

Did you grow up in a house with lead paint? Just wondering.

[ - ] McNasty [op] -2 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 12:07:28 ago (+0/-2)

Do you not understand that gravity at the surface is stronger than gravity at the edge of the atmosphere? Can you use gravity to prevent gas from expanding into a weaker vacuum on the surface? Are you retarded enough to think it does it at the edge of the atmosphere next to an extreme vacuum but not on the surface but not aware how retarded you are?

[ - ] TheYiddler 0 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 23:03:44 ago (+0/-0)

Gravity at the edge of the atmosphere is effectively the same. It is technically weaker but the difference is nothing like earth and the moon.

[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 11 monthsJul 21, 2024 20:41:04 ago (+0/-1)

Gravity at the edge of the atmosphere is effectively the same.

No. That is not what relativity claims. But even if I humored that, why can't it prevent gases from expanding into a weaker vacuum if the gravity is the same at the surface?

[ - ] TheYiddler 0 points 11 monthsJul 22, 2024 09:47:27 ago (+0/-0)

The difference is real but marginal. Earth's sphere of influence extends to the moon, but the atmosphere doesn't go that far. Earth's gravity can stop some gases from escaping but not all. See my earlier explanation.

Stop demonstrating nigger tier intellect.

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 11 monthsJul 22, 2024 10:05:40 ago (+0/-0)

The difference is real but marginal.

It is irrelevant. I can use a vacuum chamber significantly weaker and still, gravity cannot prevent gasses from escaping into it.

I'm not sure if it's your jew IQ or what but this is a very simple concept. The claim is that gravity at the edge of the atmosphere can prevent gases from expanding into a near perfect vacuum. Why can it no longer do it if I decrease the power of the vacuum?

[ - ] TheYiddler 0 points 11 monthsJul 22, 2024 23:07:28 ago (+0/-0)

A vacuum chamber at sea level has to content with gas molecules constantly bombarding it's walls and seals. Gravity has nothing to do with that, nigger.

[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 11 monthsJul 22, 2024 23:09:00 ago (+0/-1)

Try getting dummy. If I make the gravity stronger it should still prevent gas from escaping into a vacuum.

[ - ] TheYiddler 0 points 11 monthsJul 22, 2024 23:15:30 ago (+0/-0)

Gases are molecules. Gases escaping a planet do so because they attain escape velocity. Gases getting into a pressure vessel under vacuum so so because they squeeze through the seams or diffuse through the walls. Different mechanisms. You're acting like a nigger that cannot understand the future except you're locked into a dumb internal model of gases.

[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 11 monthsJul 22, 2024 23:17:03 ago (+0/-1)

Apparently you are not a heliocentrist. You might not believe the world is flat, but you can't say you're a heliocentrist because you don't subscribe to relativity.

[ - ] dass 2 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 05:49:40 ago (+2/-0)

Yea, the establishment theory gets lost in the actual observable detail.

Electric (plasma/ magnetic) universe seems more appropriate.
but i'm way too half retarded to explain any of it succinctly.
I'd make a terrible teacher (but then again with that understanding - i'd probably fit right in).

[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 12:22:12 ago (+0/-1)

The world is flat. It shares the same physics at the summit subatomic. The Earth is like an atom that is bonded to another atom. We live inside the atom of Earth on the inertial plane that forms between two atoms when they make an ionic bond. Think of two balloons that you are pushing together. In between those balloons will be a flat surface. You live inside one of those balloons on that flat surface. The planets are like electrons in the valence shells of the electron. The stars all exist in the same valence level and they are a product of solar luminescence that is caused by frequencies creating pressure points in a liquid. The liquid that exists above our first valence shell is most likely liquid hydrogen. If you would like to see an example of how that works, check out this star in a jar video.

https://youtu.be/CSIPolpvjBY

The Bible would describe these valence shells as different levels of heaven or "firmaments." It also describes the great flood as the windows of heaven opening up and water pouring in. Like if there was a weak point in that valence shell, and liquid hydrogen was leaking in. The great flood.

[ - ] Prairie 2 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 05:52:12 ago (+2/-0)

Why would it be any different than throwing a ball up and it coming back down? Things are moving slower at the edge of the atmosphere. Some of course do escape (hydrogen and helium).

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 12:35:58 ago (+1/-1)

Why would it be any different than throwing a ball up and it coming back down?

Because the ball would come back down due to gravity. The same gravity that when it's at its weakest point can hold gases down when they are next to the extreme near perfect vacuum of space. If gravity is what is causing those gases to stay down, why can't it cause those same gases to stay down next to a weaker vacuum chamber at the surface where gravity is even stronger, and I'm using a weaker vacuum?

[ - ] Prairie 0 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 17:57:23 ago (+0/-0)

It's very cold the edge of the atmosphere. speed of gas molecules when they escape to space.

Also Gay-Lussac's law, "The pressure exerted by a given mass and constant volume of an ideal gas on the sides of its container is directly proportional to its absolute temperature." At a low temperature, the pressure would be very low.

Your room with room-temperature gas is moving much faster than the gas at the edge of the atmosphere.

[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 11 monthsJul 21, 2024 20:50:41 ago (+0/-1)

It's very cold the edge of the atmosphere.

This is irrelevant. Gravity is not affected by temperature. A frozen ice cube weighs the same whether it's frozen or melted into water.

Plus you are not even subscribing to the claim of heliocentrism. You are adding things that they don't claim without any substantiating at all. They claim that gravity at its weakest point can prevent gases from escaping into a near perfect vacuum. Why can't gravity prevent gases from escaping into a weaker vacuum on the surface of the Earth where gravity is strongest?

[ - ] Prairie 0 points 11 monthsJul 21, 2024 21:38:43 ago (+0/-0)

> It's very cold the edge of the atmosphere.

This is irrelevant. Gravity is not affected by temperature. A frozen ice cube weighs the same whether it's frozen or melted into water.

I'm sorry, I thought you wanted to understand the topic. If someone is explaining something that you don't understand, you need to take in the information. If you don't understand something, you need to ask questions so you can understand it. Dismissing what could teach you just prevents learning. I assure you, temperature is very relevant to this issue. You might look up what heat is a measure of, and escape velocity.

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 11 monthsJul 21, 2024 21:42:53 ago (+0/-0)

I'm sorry, I thought you wanted to understand the topic.

No. Here's an analogy to help you understand what's going on. I'm pointing out to you that the chimney isn't even attached to the building. Therefore the Holocaust didn't happen. Asking you to explain to me how the Holocaust could happen if the chimney isn't attached to the building does not mean I want to hear your bullshit. I'm just pointing out how retarded it is.

[ - ] Prairie 0 points 11 monthsJul 21, 2024 22:53:02 ago (+0/-0)

You wrote that temperature doesn't affect things escaping gravity. I've explained how your example is different (temperature) so why you get a different result.

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 11 monthsJul 21, 2024 22:57:24 ago (+0/-0)

I've explained how your example is different (temperature) so why you get a different result.

And we can't find any of the jewish remains because the Nazis ground all their bones up into a dust.

I don't care about your jewish fantasies. If you're going to make a claim like that, you have to prove it.

[ - ] Prairie 0 points 11 monthsJul 21, 2024 23:05:38 ago (+0/-0)

You need proof of the claim that temperature affects gases escaping gravity? Temperature is velocity. Below a certain velocity something can't escape gravity (because it loses velocity due to gravity, thus eventually it drops to zero then it falls back towards the gravity source).

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 11 monthsJul 21, 2024 23:09:12 ago (+0/-0)

You need proof of the claim that temperature affects gases escaping gravity?

I never made the claim that temperature affects gases escaping into a vacuum. In fact, I would make the claim that nothing will prevent gases from escaping into a vacuum. My evidence for this is that it doesn't exist. There is not one single example of anything preventing gases from expanding into a vacuum.

Now back to The original topic. If gravity at its weakest point can prevent gases from escaping into a near perfect vacuum, why can't it prevent gases from leaking into a weaker vacuum on the surface where gravity is at its strongest?

I don't care about temperature or anything else. I'm just concerned with the claim that gravity can prevent gases from expanding into a vacuum.

[ - ] TheYiddler 5 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 07:19:28 ago (+5/-0)

ChatGPT makes shit up. The only thing it does reliabily is pad essays with fluff.

[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 12:09:37 ago (+0/-1)

So why don't you answer my question if AI just makes shit up? If gravity is weakest at the edge of the atmosphere where it can prevent gases from expanding into a near perfect vacuum of space, why can't gravity prevent gases from expanding into a weak vacuum on the surface where it is strongest?

[ - ] TheYiddler 0 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 15:31:35 ago (+0/-0)

Gases are just molecules bouncing around. Light gases get bumped by heavier ones so they can achieve escape velocity. This is why the only source of helium is underground radioactive decay.

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 15:45:23 ago (+0/-0)

Gases are just molecules bouncing around.

Irrelevant. I don't care how you define gases. Either gravity can prevent gases from expanding into a vacuum or not.

[ - ] TheYiddler 0 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 22:58:55 ago (+0/-0)

It can stop some but not others. To understand the specifics you need to not be a nigger and understand thermodynamics and the concept of escape velocity.

Earth is big enough to hold onto nitrogen but not helium. Mars can't hold onto oxygen. It barely has an atmosphere at all. Jupiter can hold onto hydrogen.

[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 11 monthsJul 21, 2024 20:41:56 ago (+0/-1)

You keep skipping over the problem. Can gravity have an effect on gases by preventing them from expanding into a vacuum? Yes or no? If yes, give me an experiment that I can do to verify this.

[ - ] TheYiddler 0 points 11 monthsJul 22, 2024 09:54:19 ago (+0/-0)

Yes, gravity can contain some gases. The types of gases depends on their molecular weight, the strength of gravity, and temperature. This is why Earth has an atmosphere and the moon doesn't.

I'm not sure what experiment would satisfy your insane requirements. Working with gasses in a near vacuum is hard and requires expensive equipment. Maybe the functioning mechanics of an oil vacuum pump, like that found in a freeze drier, would be enough.

[ - ] Badgeroo 2 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 08:13:09 ago (+2/-0)

That's not really how gravity works though. If you think about gases the same way as liquids, then "space" is just a less dense material floating on the top surface. Nothing more complicated than that.

[ - ] firestation7 3 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 08:46:16 ago (+3/-0)

NASA loves using water imagery to describe space.

[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 12:34:00 ago (+0/-1)

That's not really how gravity works though.

You're going to have to explain how gravity works then because my understanding is that it is the bending of space-time. I'm not really sure how that can manifest in a physical world since space time is just a concept. Maybe you can enlighten me.

[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 15:15:49 ago (+0/-1)

Either gravity can affect gases by preventing them from escaping into a vacuum or not. There is no experiment that you can do yourself that will ever produce the results NASA is claiming. You can go ahead and believe NASA when they tell you this unprecedented phenomenon occurs at the edge of the atmosphere, but it reeks like a jewish grift to me.

After all, The Apollo missions were developed by jews.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-03-01/who-got-america-to-the-moon-a-unlikely-collaboration-of-jews-and-former-nazi-engineers

[ - ] Badgeroo 0 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 15:24:54 ago (+0/-0)

Gravity doesn't stop gases escaping. Gravity just helps settle different densities of things. Space weighs less than air so it floats on top of the upper atmosphere.

Gravity isn't a hard concept, but a bunch of wankers make a living making it confusing.

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 15:26:17 ago (+0/-0)

Gravity doesn't stop gases escaping.

Now you have a even bigger problem. Gravity was the excuse they gave us when we asked how the pressurized atmosphere can exist next to a near perfect vacuum. If you are now claiming that it is not gravity stopping the pressurized atmosphere from escaping, what is stopping it from escaping?

[ - ] Badgeroo 0 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 16:27:32 ago (+0/-0)

The same thing that stops water floating off into the sky.

When I say it doesn't stop gases escaping I mean there are plenty of ways things can scoop it out and send it off into space. Possiblity of returning to atmospere somewhere else is likely.

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 16:33:49 ago (+0/-0)

The same thing that stops water floating off into the sky.

Lol. Gravity? So we're back to square one. If gravity can prevent gasses from escaping into a vacuum at the edge of the atmosphere we're gravity is at it weakest, then it should be able to do the same where gravity is stronger.

[ - ] Badgeroo 0 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 18:35:33 ago (+0/-0)

Vacuums at sea level only have pressure because of all the air/liquid weight above you.

The vacuum of space is just a less dense material but nothing is above it forcing it into the planet.

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 11 monthsJul 21, 2024 20:48:23 ago (+0/-0)

because of all the air/liquid weight above you.

This is irrelevant. An object has wait because it is matter. A vacuum is a chamber void of matter. So you can't claim any of those effects are occurring inside the vacuum chamber. Why can't gravity prevent gases from expanding into that vacuum chamber?

[ - ] Badgeroo 0 points 11 monthsJul 22, 2024 16:13:12 ago (+0/-0)

No, an object has weight because of the pull towards other positive gravitational charged sources.

I can stand on top of a vacuum box and the Earth will still try to suck me in.

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 11 monthsJul 22, 2024 16:16:13 ago (+0/-0)

No, an object has weight because of the pull towards other positive gravitational charged sources.

If you're not going to stay into the paradigm of relativity for your argument, I don't know why you're talking to me.

E = mc^2

Stick to this.

[ - ] Steelerfish 1 point 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 08:14:27 ago (+1/-0)

If you were correct, Arnold Schwarzenegger’s face wouldn’t have almost exploded before Mars’s atmosphere was reinstated in the documentary Total Recall.

[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 12:32:30 ago (+0/-1)

Lol. Sadly, I believe that is where most of these people get their science. jew movies.

[ - ] Salacious_Salicylic 0 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 08:53:18 ago (+0/-0)

Was talking to a different FE guy last night about this one.

I don't know what the accepted science model answer to it is either. Its a weird one.

[ - ] qwop 3 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 09:01:40 ago (+3/-0)

I don't understand what is so hard to understand about the atmosphere.

Flat earthers are experts at hypnotizing themselves and others, that's the real explanation why people get confused.

That is the whole point of FE; to confuse.

[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 15:17:03 ago (+0/-1)

Gravity can either have an effect on gases and prevent them from escaping into a vacuum or not. It's that simple. There is no experiment that you could ever do that can prove that gravity will prevent gases from expanding into a vacuum.

Stop crying about how flat earthers can't understand and explain how it's possible?

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 12:31:36 ago (+0/-0)

I don't really think it's weird. We're lied to about everything. All comes razor would tell you that this is also a lie. They're telling you that some kind of scientific phenomenon happens that you personally can never verify. And when you try to recreate the conditions, you do not get the same results.

[ - ] qwop 1 point 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 13:41:24 ago (+1/-0)

Lying about everything is a poor reason. If they lie about everything, how come you're sitting at a computer right now, a box using tiny invisible electron gates inside a tiny silicon chip, made by all the science we have available to us today.

All that knowledge and science, which enables you to see and read this text that resides inside another tiny box at the other side of the world.

You can't cherry pick what they "lie about" to fit your agenda if you're content on using the technology of "the liers" to tell us "they lie about everything".

If they lie about everything, you need to flush your computer down the toilet, because that should be a lie too. Same goes with electricity. Stop using it.

You can't have it both ways. You need stop trying to drag others into your delusion. Everything you say is a contradiction, and proves you're either doing in intentionally, or you are extremely stupid.

[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 13:45:31 ago (+0/-1)

Lying about everything is a poor reason.

So if somebody is known for lying, you should still trust them over your lying eyes?

[ - ] Metanoid 1 point 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 15:04:29 ago (+1/-0)

All comes razor

Do you mean Occam's razor?

You have got to be a troll. I can't imagine anyone so intentionally stupid.

[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 15:07:39 ago (+0/-1)

Lol. Obviously I'm using voice to text and I'm watching videos on my TV. I like how you faggots resort to this as you cope with the reality that you are retarded and believe that the pressurized atmosphere of Earth can exist next to a near perfect vacuum. Hey did you know that Nazis cremated 6 million jew? It's not normally possible but in this one situation that you can never verify, it is.

[ - ] GrayDragon 1 point 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 09:55:01 ago (+1/-0)

If you make the ground-based chamber a near vacuum (like the "edge of space"), the air molecules will mostly stay at the bottom.

Side note: the Earth does lose molecules to space, albeit extremely slow (also partly due to solar winds, which in turn are reduced by the magnetic fields, not just by "defeating" gravity).

[ - ] McNasty [op] 0 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 15:05:54 ago (+0/-0)

None of that is relevant. Either gravity has an effect and can prevent gases from expanding into vacuums or not. Any experiment that you could ever do yourself is going to tell you it does not. How do you know that you're not being lied to when the unprecedented phenomenon occurs at the edge of the atmosphere?

[ - ] hylo 1 point 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 10:14:40 ago (+1/-0)

I think the problem is that your room is not large enough to notice the effects of gravity on the atmosphere. Imagine a gas molecule traveling around in that room like a speck of dust in a sunray. We've seen them fly up despite gravity.

[ - ] McNasty [op] -1 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 12:29:50 ago (+0/-1)

I think the problem is that your room is not large enough to notice the effects of gravity

This is irrelevant. Explain why gravity would act different in a 5 square foot area as opposed to a 100 square foot area? It doesn't. I don't weigh any different if I'm standing in a small room or outside. As for the experiment that I gave chatgpt, I said it had the same exact conditions as the edge of the atmosphere. This means it had the same pressure.

Imagine a gas molecule traveling around in that room like a speck of dust

The reality is there is no such thing as a perfect vacuum. There is no such thing as empty space. A vacuum is taking the molecules that are in a space, and stretching them out. It's not like they're just floating around in empty space if they are in a vacuum. If you put an inflated balloon in a vacuum chamber, it will expand.

[ - ] hylo 1 point 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 13:11:23 ago (+1/-0)

First, I can't talk about ChatGPT because I don't care what it says and I'm sure it says all kind of nonsense all the time. It's answers are composed word by word based on likelyhood and when there isn't enough source material it starts to get wonky.

But, you said it yourself, there isn't a perfect vacuum. I'm not an expert so I can't give you the answer but atmosphere rarifies over a very large area. Your room can only capture a very tiny potion of that, and it will be for all intents and purposes, homogeneous in gas density.

Your vacuum chamber in the room is also redundant, because I think you're asking, in a way, why doesn't gravity pull down all the molecules to the floor, eventually? That is where I don't really know why, but if I were to guess, I would say that they have a lot of energy that keeps them traveling and bouncing around. Maybe they bounce off the floor and then back up, and there is little to no resistance to them traveling, as there is no friction from collisions with other molecules. When you open up your vacuum chamber they will just bounce in there, too.

Why atmosphere is denser near the ground is because there are way more molecules and they bounce much more often and don't get to travel quite far. The mass of all molecules above keeps them down and the effect is cumulative over a very long distance, to space.

Maybe you're thinking about water, why doesn't water just go up in the air? I think that is because of the density. Water molecules are touching nearly at all times because they are heavy, while air molecules (like O2, N, and other gases) aren't as heavy and bounce off each other. There is probably some threshold that is a limit between gravitational acceleration and molecule/atom weight. Maybe on a planet with higher gravity you'd see air liquefy or something like that.

Anyway, ChatGPT ain't your answer, and I'm actually glad because that means it won't take all our jobs.

[ - ] McNasty [op] -2 points 11 monthsJul 20, 2024 13:14:25 ago (+0/-2)

atmosphere rarifies over a very large area.

You're trying to make the experiment too complicated. I can even give the advantage to gravity. I can make there be more pressure in the room, less pressure in the room. It doesn't matter. Gravity will never prevent gas from expanding into a vacuum. That is the observable reality that you can personally see and verify. The only reason you believe that that is not reality at the edge of the atmosphere is because of a jewish lie.