Been sober 40 days now. Got court today for the DUI and should be sentenced. Had to enroll in an intensive outpatient program, it's really expensive and about ten hours a week. Feeling pretty good though, all things considered. Honestly, if I knew it was gonna be this easy to just not drink I would have done it a decade ago. That's it, guys. Check in with y'all about this soon.
Oh side note: AA seems like a philosophy of weakness. I really don't like it and the whole higher power thing is tough to constantly listen to.
A close friend of mine was drunk as shit driving one time. He crashed into a gas meter in front of a bunch of houses. He gets out, holdin ga beer, mind you, and starts shooting the shit with the residents. The fire dept shows up and he's bullshitting with them. Then the cops show up... he bullshits with them, while holdin ga beer. They got him. I was like wtf why didn't you leave the area and he said "I was drunk". When he gets drunk he loves to shoot the shit with people. Gabby MF lol
And to create an endless stream of never leaving customers. If they tell you you're an alcoholic once and you're an alcoholic forever then they've got you forever. It's kind of like the psychologist that never want to carry a problem because then they lose a client.
I don't believe anybody is anything forever and you can change anything that you're really motivated to change as long as there is an alternative option.
I haven't had a drink in about 10 years and if I were to have one, I would have 20, and if I had 20 you better believe I would let the beast out. You might be able to cure yourself but a true alcoholic is never fixed, just controlled.
The point is that you’re weak if you allowed it to control your life in the first place. It’s like denying you’re a coward if you ran away from a problem before. You can try to be better, but you will always have that hanging over you.
There is a difference between dry and sober. Dry drunks are just time bombs. Sober people make smart decisions. Whether someone can truly sober up and live a clean life in the right state of mind with humility and self-awareness and then take a drink is on the individual. But in my experience dealing with a bunch of drunks, once a person gets a taste of a happy sober life, they are forced to find new people, places, and things. The old way and the old crowd are stuck in the loop the sober escaped.
I don't see anything wrong with a person calling upon a higher power and learing to accept help. And suffer the sting of humility. It probably feels like playacting to the initiate, but after a while one doesn't want to analyze a thing to death. Some folks start going to church/seek God and abandon AA. But it is important to change the people, places, and things that can lead one back to the sauce.
* I grew up with drugs and alcohol all around me. I was allowed to drink at age 13. They couldn't not allow me because even my drunks had some ethics and hated being hypocrites. By the grace of God I only had "incidents" as a result of boozing. It wasn't a way of life. All I knew empirically is that booze was false confidence, that booze allowed what was in the soul to escape through the mouth. And sometimes fists. I understood that drunk was not a good way to operate a life. My 2 cents.
for aa to work you need the social club for sober guys to tell their tale and show the way. It can't be all 40 day sober guys. It can be a bit of a brotherhood for those dudes, so I hate to trash it too much.
A lot of guys don't have the self control/respect to quit on their own and need to accept that they just suck at drinking and should be in the program long term.
"AA seems like a philosophy of weakness" Your only weakness is over alcohol - and it's not a philosophy, it's a fact and you have the evidence now to prove it.
You are not powerless over anything else. You have already shown you have the power to face these consequences and move on. Without alcohol bringing you down, you will become even more powerful in other aspects of your life.
Nah. Everyone gets hung up on the 'powerless' trope being abuse. The words are clearly stated 'powerless over alcohol'. Not powerless over anything else. That's it.
I'm powerless over Mike Tyson, so I choose not to get into the ring with him. I'm powerless over alcohol once I take a drink, so I choose not to take a drink.
Most of the people calling AA a cult or brainwashing miss the point. It's also pretty standard procedure for those in early recovery to 'rebel' against anything that would get in the way of potentially drinking in the future.
It's a free organization held together by people just trying to get better. You can take it or leave it.
There are other organizations as well . . . . AA isn't the only game in town.
I too would have quit alot sooner if I had known that it was this easy and I would feel this good. Honestly I was not a really hardcore alky, but I had been getting drunk at least once a week since my teens and I really believed that quitting would be an end to fun. The days I was sober, I felt depressed and wishing I was drinking. It seemed like the only happy spot in my life. Now I realize that at one binge a week, I was physically addicted and my depressing sober life was really affected by alcohol. After a few weeks of sobriety, I really felt like I was enjoying life more.
Alcohol does not add to your pleasure. It just steals it from your sober life. Also I do not miss waking up feeling like shit. And Ive lost alot of weight, if you need another reason to stop.
AA is fine for some people. I am too private and introverted for it to be an option for me. For me the key was realizing that alcoholism is a way for parasites to live off other people, because it is a form of slavery. Once the physical addiction was broken I just never wanted to be that slave again.
Thanks its good to be back. Understanding the parasitic aspect of booze has definitely angered me enough that I dont think I will ever be strongly tempted to touch it again.
You should hop in the gym dude. You’ll feel incredible. Or go for a run. It doesn’t matter what just be physically hard on yourself. You’ll wake up sober tired in great way.
I am glad to hear this, PP, no shit. We're strangers but it pleases me to know that one of us is doing better. Keep it up, I personally don't know how hard it will be, but from observing I know it must be hard. It will try to sneak up on you, don't let it. You don't need alcohol, it's actually a poison that doesn't belong in the human body.
Remember: Don't do things just because they feel good. Follow that philosophy and you can't go wrong.
Not all higher powers are cringe and weak. Here's some practical advice from Wotan, the oldest and wisest of the Gods.
11. No better burden can a man bears on the road than a store of common sense; no worse journeying provision could he carry over the plain than over-much drinking of ale. 12. It isn’t good as it’s said to be, ale, for the sons of men; for the more a man drinks, the less he knows about his own mind.
It's almost impossible to do any good in court with a due. Dui laws are virtually cast in stone. Those MADD bitches screwed us on those. I'm sober too. I especially enjoy waking without a hangover and enjoying coffee.
Thanks bro. Yeah it's gonna be a long year, but I'll be busy and the years are passing quickly these days. I've also rediscovered enjoying coffee instead of just using it in a utilitarian function. It's awesome.
Watch out for that relapse. You will have bad days, you will have horrible days. You will want to grab a drink to make the pain go away. That's when you will be at your weakest and you will need your greatest strength. Try to remember. Keep a note in your wallet of the best words to guide you through. Don't do something just because it feels good!
I’d be pretty much the worst person to even try and give you any advice, but if you’ve experienced a bit of the AA stuff now you should watch a movie called “Don’t Worry, He Won’t Get Far On Foot.” Best of luck with it all, and I think the punishments for DUI are pretty tame in the US (I may be wrong on that) so, as is usually the case in life, it could be a lot worse.
Oh side note: AA seems like a philosophy of weakness.
I've got a buddy who had to attend 10-12 different AA groups until he found one he could stand.
It's not that it's a philosophy of weakness it's the mentally weak ass piece of shit people who attend it. It's really just people, everyone thinks their life is the hardest and everyone is unfair to them.
Well, you could just stop putting alcohol to your lips and drinking it. That would save a lot of time and misery for people who can't stop after one alcohol.
[ - ] DesertRat 1 point 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 21:44:19 ago (+1/-0)
"AA seems like a philosophy of weakness."
It does really really help to be around other addicts who are dealing with their own addiction. The higher power thing is what ever you make of it. Some people need that and they are bearing their soul trying to get through it. You're only 40 days out and if you are an alcoholic (not judging as I am one) you'll be doing 40 days over and over again. You'll eventually be looking for that higher power and understanding.
It wasn't so much a reality check as it was I was afraid to quit. I was sure I would have withdrawals, but I didn't. Been wanting to quit for a while, but I was being a faggot about it.
Yes the AA shit is like a masonic cult, do everything you can while holding off on choosing a “sponsor” - so buy the cheap book they have, read it (there are a lot of good advice and anecdotes), and buy yourself some time by saying that you still want to know more members before selecting a sponsor, attend the “stag” meetings so you don’t have to deal with cockhungry attention whores, and you should be golden!
Too many of them are jew-friendly zionist faggots, it’s true; attending a dozen or so meetings will definitely inspire you to stay away from alcohol and low IQ weakness, it’s a very powerful experience!
The main idea of AA is to keep you from relapsing. Anyone can get sober. It's staying sober where it gets hard sometimes. AA helps to reinforce that part.
I think I've seen a lot of reports that AA is completely ineffective.
From what I've seen about it it seems to stitute one dependency for another. And I do believe the answer is actually to try to take control and if you're going to do some substitution actions find some that don't cost you money and don't require you to sub vert yourself to others or group think.
AA is free and doesn’t force you to choose a sponsor or attend meetings. Lots of people really do need to be around others to share how they fucked up and started drinking again, or a place to vent and curse without losing your job (yea you can talk about niggers and kikes, which might offend and push away others, but you can still do that while tying it into why you were drinking in the first place).
[ - ] dass 1 point 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 16:26:16 ago (+1/-0)
Its main use is in peer support / pressure to remain sober. Thats it - take it how you will, but everyone's opinion whether it works or not is valid - it works for some and not for others.
Good job man, hang in there. I will tell you, I did AA for about ten years on and off. Racked up 5.5 years sober in that stretch. My life got considerably better when I quit going there. It wasn’t the higher power stuff so much, and for the record, I was raised by atheist boomers, it was more about the people being a bunch of losers. That was 30 years ago and I still keep in contact with some of, the guys from there. Some sober, most not.
I don't get sober people. It's like living your life on easy mode. I work on sophisticated machinery where anything more than a tenth is out of spec. I get home and I have to deal with lawnmowers, water pumps, side by sides. I mean If I was sober all the time I wouldn't know how to deal with all my time. Maybe I just have to much free time and need to get drunk to make life challenging?
I'm glad your spirits are high. It's month 4 that was the hardest for me by the time you make my to month 6 you're pretty much in the clear as far as physical stuff is concerned.
[ + ] HonkyMcNiggerSpic
[ - ] HonkyMcNiggerSpic 17 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 13:35:18 ago (+17/-0)
[ + ] PeckerwoodPerry
[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry [op] 11 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 14:08:48 ago (+11/-0)
[ + ] KangzNSheeit
[ - ] KangzNSheeit 2 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 18:55:51 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] CasualObserver
[ - ] CasualObserver 12 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 14:19:57 ago (+14/-2)
Identifying as an 'alcoholic' with the alcoholic gene from old granddad is weak sauce and makes you a victim of something you can't control.
Take accountability for your poor decision making and make better decisions from here on.
(haven't had a drink for 6 years)
[ + ] Crackinjokes
[ - ] Crackinjokes 5 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 14:23:57 ago (+6/-1)
I don't believe anybody is anything forever and you can change anything that you're really motivated to change as long as there is an alternative option.
[ + ] MaryXmas
[ - ] MaryXmas 5 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 15:18:11 ago (+5/-0)
[ + ] CasualObserver
[ - ] CasualObserver 2 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 16:42:58 ago (+2/-0)
An ex-alcoholic that can control himself is just a regular dude at that point.
[ + ] MaryXmas
[ - ] MaryXmas 2 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 17:31:30 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Sleazy
[ - ] Sleazy 2 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 19:58:53 ago (+2/-0)
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[ - ] SumerBreeze 3 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 14:34:52 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] jfroybees
[ - ] jfroybees 4 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 16:16:13 ago (+4/-0)
I don't see anything wrong with a person calling upon a higher power and learing to accept help. And suffer the sting of humility. It probably feels like playacting to the initiate, but after a while one doesn't want to analyze a thing to death. Some folks start going to church/seek God and abandon AA. But it is important to change the people, places, and things that can lead one back to the sauce.
* I grew up with drugs and alcohol all around me. I was allowed to drink at age 13. They couldn't not allow me because even my drunks had some ethics and hated being hypocrites. By the grace of God I only had "incidents" as a result of boozing. It wasn't a way of life. All I knew empirically is that booze was false confidence, that booze allowed what was in the soul to escape through the mouth. And sometimes fists. I understood that drunk was not a good way to operate a life. My 2 cents.
[ + ] CasualObserver
[ - ] CasualObserver 1 point 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 14:46:04 ago (+1/-0)
A lot of guys don't have the self control/respect to quit on their own and need to accept that they just suck at drinking and should be in the program long term.
[ + ] gabou
[ - ] gabou 0 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2024 03:21:57 ago (+0/-0)*
Your only weakness is over alcohol - and it's not a philosophy, it's a fact and you have the evidence now to prove it.
You are not powerless over anything else. You have already shown you have the power to face these consequences and move on. Without alcohol bringing you down, you will become even more powerful in other aspects of your life.
[ + ] Cum_control
[ - ] Cum_control 7 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 13:54:57 ago (+7/-0)
[ + ] lord_nougat
[ - ] lord_nougat 7 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 13:42:46 ago (+7/-0)
[ + ] PeckerwoodPerry
[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry [op] 8 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 14:07:11 ago (+8/-0)
[ + ] registereduser
[ - ] registereduser 6 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 17:14:26 ago (+6/-0)
It is. Telling people they are powerless is psychological abuse.
Alcoholism is a made up disease, there is no such thing. It is a euphemism for excusing bad behavior.
BTW it is illegal for courts to force you into AA due to the separation of church and state clause. This has been determined in court.
There is a shit ton of good information on this site not only about AA. Check out the section on propaganda.
https://orangepapers.eth.limo/
[ + ] TheYiddler
[ - ] TheYiddler 0 points 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 05:44:20 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] gabou
[ - ] gabou 0 points 9 monthsJul 27, 2024 03:12:08 ago (+0/-0)
The words are clearly stated 'powerless over alcohol'. Not powerless over anything else. That's it.
I'm powerless over Mike Tyson, so I choose not to get into the ring with him.
I'm powerless over alcohol once I take a drink, so I choose not to take a drink.
Most of the people calling AA a cult or brainwashing miss the point. It's also pretty standard procedure for those in early recovery to 'rebel' against anything that would get in the way of potentially drinking in the future.
It's a free organization held together by people just trying to get better. You can take it or leave it.
There are other organizations as well . . . . AA isn't the only game in town.
[ + ] dingbat
[ - ] dingbat 6 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 14:52:22 ago (+6/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 5 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 19:44:10 ago (+5/-0)
Alcohol does not add to your pleasure. It just steals it from your sober life. Also I do not miss waking up feeling like shit. And Ive lost alot of weight, if you need another reason to stop.
AA is fine for some people. I am too private and introverted for it to be an option for me. For me the key was realizing that alcoholism is a way for parasites to live off other people, because it is a form of slavery. Once the physical addiction was broken I just never wanted to be that slave again.
Good luck and enjoy your freedom.
BTW what a racket that rehab shit is!
[ + ] PeckerwoodPerry
[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry [op] 2 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 21:06:53 ago (+2/-0)
I feel ya on the slavery comparison. Told my wife something similar a couple weeks ago. Thanks for the response, good to see you around.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 3 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 21:28:55 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] Panic
[ - ] Panic 0 points 9 monthsJul 26, 2024 22:10:04 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] big_fat_dangus
[ - ] big_fat_dangus 5 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 16:22:00 ago (+5/-0)
[ + ] xmasskull
[ - ] xmasskull 5 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 14:46:52 ago (+5/-0)
I still had to get my "card"signed by the speaker.What a huge hassle.
Stay Strong!
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[ - ] deleted 0 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 19:03:39 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] GreenSaint
[ - ] GreenSaint 5 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 14:45:30 ago (+5/-0)
[ + ] oppressed
[ - ] oppressed 4 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 20:05:03 ago (+4/-0)
[ + ] PeckerwoodPerry
[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry [op] 0 points 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 01:35:53 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] hylo
[ - ] hylo 4 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 16:43:25 ago (+4/-0)
Remember: Don't do things just because they feel good. Follow that philosophy and you can't go wrong.
[ + ] shitface9000
[ - ] shitface9000 3 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 18:52:12 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] SecretHitler
[ - ] SecretHitler 3 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 17:51:06 ago (+3/-0)
Not all higher powers are cringe and weak. Here's some practical advice from Wotan, the oldest and wisest of the Gods.
12. It isn’t good as it’s said to be, ale, for the sons of men; for the more a man drinks, the less he knows about his own mind.
[ + ] PeckerwoodPerry
[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry [op] 1 point 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 01:32:48 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] ProudRebel
[ - ] ProudRebel 3 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 17:25:48 ago (+3/-0)
It's almost impossible to do any good in court with a due. Dui laws are virtually cast in stone. Those MADD bitches screwed us on those.
I'm sober too. I especially enjoy waking without a hangover and enjoying coffee.
[ + ] PeckerwoodPerry
[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry [op] 0 points 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 01:35:03 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] hylo
[ - ] hylo 3 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 17:16:15 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] Cantaloupe
[ - ] Cantaloupe 3 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 15:42:04 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] PeckerwoodPerry
[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry [op] 0 points 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 01:36:22 ago (+0/-0)
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[ - ] albatrosv15 3 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 15:08:50 ago (+3/-0)
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[ - ] deleted 4 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 15:19:12 ago (+4/-0)
[ + ] dass
[ - ] dass 2 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 16:21:55 ago (+2/-0)
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[ - ] SumerBreeze 2 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 18:51:26 ago (+2/-0)
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[ - ] Sector2 1 point 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 22:29:04 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Smedleys_Butler
[ - ] Smedleys_Butler 1 point 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 23:36:57 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] TheBigGuyFromQueens
[ - ] TheBigGuyFromQueens 2 points 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 00:43:56 ago (+2/-0)
4 INSTANCE I AINT TALKED BOUT MY DICK IN LIKE 12 HOURS
WHOOPS
[ + ] Anotherone
[ - ] Anotherone 3 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 13:59:14 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] PeckerwoodPerry
[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry [op] 5 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 14:06:14 ago (+5/-0)
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[ - ] deleted 2 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 14:19:10 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Irelandlost
[ - ] Irelandlost 2 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 19:21:02 ago (+2/-0)
Cheers!
[ + ] RMGoetbbels
[ - ] RMGoetbbels 2 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 16:52:50 ago (+2/-0)
I've got a buddy who had to attend 10-12 different AA groups until he found one he could stand.
It's not that it's a philosophy of weakness it's the mentally weak ass piece of shit people who attend it. It's really just people, everyone thinks their life is the hardest and everyone is unfair to them.
[ + ] con77
[ - ] con77 2 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 15:36:44 ago (+2/-0)
Hope court goes well.
[ + ] Indoctrinated_USA
[ - ] Indoctrinated_USA 2 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 15:23:57 ago (+2/-0)
If you develop inner strength, you don't need it.
[ + ] Sector2
[ - ] Sector2 0 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 22:33:22 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Indoctrinated_USA
[ - ] Indoctrinated_USA 1 point 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 23:14:18 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Sector2
[ - ] Sector2 0 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 23:20:46 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] 9000timesempty
[ - ] 9000timesempty 2 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 14:16:40 ago (+2/-0)*
BA was at .14 though and might not have to have a breathalyzer installed in the car. Might...
[ + ] PeckerwoodPerry
[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry [op] 2 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 16:54:56 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 0 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 21:35:59 ago (+0/-0)
Keep up the sober life, friend. I'm rooting for you.
[ + ] Sector2
[ - ] Sector2 1 point 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 22:39:24 ago (+1/-0)
It seems to mainly target the kind of people who can't have a beer on occasion without having 10 more.
[ + ] DesertRat
[ - ] DesertRat 1 point 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 21:44:19 ago (+1/-0)
It does really really help to be around other addicts who are dealing with their own addiction. The higher power thing is what ever you make of it. Some people need that and they are bearing their soul trying to get through it. You're only 40 days out and if you are an alcoholic (not judging as I am one) you'll be doing 40 days over and over again. You'll eventually be looking for that higher power and understanding.
[ + ] UncleDoug
[ - ] UncleDoug 1 point 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 20:19:08 ago (+1/-0)
You only need to control your addictions to be successful, best of luck PeckerwoodPerry.
[ + ] PeckerwoodPerry
[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry [op] 1 point 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 01:37:25 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] fnbs
[ - ] fnbs 1 point 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 19:36:46 ago (+2/-1)
BS...its only "easy" because of the reality check consequences you are facing
[ + ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey
[ - ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey 1 point 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 22:55:05 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] PeckerwoodPerry
[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry [op] 1 point 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 01:42:52 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Anus_Expander
[ - ] Anus_Expander 1 point 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 19:00:59 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] beece
[ - ] beece 1 point 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 17:53:19 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Leveraction
[ - ] Leveraction 1 point 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 17:10:30 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] rabidR04CH
[ - ] rabidR04CH 1 point 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 16:52:49 ago (+1/-0)
Seriously though, congratulations on your sobriety, brother.
[ + ] happytoes
[ - ] happytoes 1 point 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 15:36:34 ago (+1/-0)
is about some-one who left it too late to stop drinking alcohol.
[ + ] JudyStroyer
[ - ] JudyStroyer 1 point 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 15:15:32 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] NoRefunds
[ - ] NoRefunds 1 point 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 15:02:37 ago (+2/-1)
[ + ] dass
[ - ] dass 0 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 16:23:38 ago (+1/-1)
I swear for many it's the opportunity to craft a life narrative as the main character and incrementally improve it over time.
[ + ] 4thTurning
[ - ] 4thTurning 1 point 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 14:54:42 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] TheSimulacra
[ - ] TheSimulacra 1 point 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 14:36:02 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] SumerBreeze
[ - ] SumerBreeze 1 point 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 14:27:43 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] DitchPig
[ - ] DitchPig 1 point 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 14:23:42 ago (+3/-2)
It's a cult.
[ + ] SumerBreeze
[ - ] SumerBreeze 5 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 14:38:10 ago (+5/-0)
[ + ] Leveraction
[ - ] Leveraction 3 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 17:09:03 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] Crackinjokes
[ - ] Crackinjokes 1 point 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 14:22:07 ago (+1/-0)
From what I've seen about it it seems to stitute one dependency for another. And I do believe the answer is actually to try to take control and if you're going to do some substitution actions find some that don't cost you money and don't require you to sub vert yourself to others or group think.
[ + ] SumerBreeze
[ - ] SumerBreeze 4 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 14:30:58 ago (+4/-0)
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[ - ] deleted 3 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 14:32:21 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] dass
[ - ] dass 1 point 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 16:26:16 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] BitterVeteran
[ - ] BitterVeteran 0 points 9 monthsJul 24, 2024 01:27:37 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey
[ - ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey 0 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 22:43:49 ago (+0/-0)*
[ + ] Endo_Aryan
[ - ] Endo_Aryan 0 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 22:20:15 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] HomerSampson
[ - ] HomerSampson 0 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 21:48:47 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] AttilaHitler
[ - ] AttilaHitler 0 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 20:37:25 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] RobertJHarsh
[ - ] RobertJHarsh 0 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 20:27:00 ago (+0/-0)
Are they making you pay for this outpatient program?
[ + ] Steelerfish
[ - ] Steelerfish 0 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 20:26:31 ago (+0/-0)
I haven’t hit my bottom yet.
Drink like a fish…
Ill attempt to trade that Vice like I traded the Vice of cigarettes into another Vice….
But I know that if inevitably futile….
Until then…
Hit me up if you go to roots (does fungus count)…..?
[ + ] NeonGreen
[ - ] NeonGreen 0 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 19:32:24 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] FuckShitJesus
[ - ] FuckShitJesus 0 points 9 monthsJul 23, 2024 14:25:45 ago (+0/-0)