I never even bother with this stupid debate, at the end of the day, it's nothing but a time waste because either conclusions changes nothing. Also the earth is round.
At the end of my engagement with FEarthers, whenever presented with the assertion that there's a big "round Earth conspiracy," I just ask "Why?" I've never received a good answer (or an answer at all, now that I think about it) to that question. Like... what is even the point of trying to convince everyone that a flat Earth is actually round? They never have an answer for that.
Like you, I've since stopped engaging, but no one could ever tell me why the great coverup. Moon landing hoax motivations I get. Kennedy assassination motivations I get. But what's the motivation for the flat Earth cover up? Serves no functional purpose.
You might be right but there are definitely major inconsistencies with the story.
NASA fakes a lot of what it claims to do and you can see way farther at sea level than you ought to be able to.
NASA faking stuff may just be money-laundering.
Seeing things that ought to be miles below the curvature of the earth may just be a strange form of global refraction that we haven't yet been able to reproduce.
If you really educate yourself on the topic you'll understand why people think it's not all like what they're telling us.
I've looked into it fairly extensively and come to the conclusion that there's no way to be sure but thinking it might be flat is way less retarded than your public school education will have taught you to believe.
No one said it did. What kind of jewish argument method are you trying to use? Attempting to appear to invalidate my point by stating an irrelevant fact about the subject? This shows that you're either a) manipulative or b) stupid.
You don't see below the curvature beyond a well known and documented refraction of light from just above sea-level viewing.
That's simply not true and there are innumerable reproducible instances of seeing things that ought to beyond the curvature. So now we see that you're either dishonest or uninformed. At this point it's looking like option b from above is more likely as an intelligent but dishonest person wouldn't expect such a bad argument to work, unless you're just trying to reassure yourself and your fellow dullards?
Flat Earth is exactly as retarded as public school education taught you to believe.
I don't think so. You, however, are exactly as retarded as I'd expect.
I think the earth is a globe, but I don't know that; and neither does anyone who hasn't been above low earth orbit. There are exactly 24 humans alive who claim to have been beyond low earth orbit. The most recent was in 1972. Have you looked into them? Have you seen the things they've said? You really should stop making strong assertions on things you know almost nothing about.
Of course increasing elevation does that. Now do a different test. Go down to the water's edge with a high zoom camera like a nikon p1000 and zoom in and watch the city magically rise above the horizon again even though you haven't changed elevation. That's the weird stuff we're talking about.
The fact that increasing elevation brings it into view is irrelevant. Yes it is consistent with a globe. And You and I both think it IS in fact a globe. But why does a strong enough zoom at zero elevation cause the city to apparently rise above the horizon again?
Some trick of refraction? I don't know. But I do suspect you were unaware of the effect I just described.
Another thing to consider is, why is flat earth so heavily censored? I went on a debunk deep dive awhile back to refute this flat earth nonsense once and for all (because I couldn't honestly believe people actually believed this shit) and the every time I'd find a YouTube video that wasn't just pure retardation it would be gone when I went back to it later. Usually stuff showing proof of NASA using green screens or like I described above people bringing things back above the horizon using high power zoom.
If you think there's zero reason flat earthers are suspicious you're just under-informed.
A general rule of thumb is to start with the cutlery that's farthest from your plate and work your way in. For example, you might start with the soup spoon, then the salad fork, and finally the dinner fork. You can also use a new utensil for each course.
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Sun - Sphere
Planets visible with a telescope - Spheres
Moons orbiting those visible Planets - Spheres
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Like you, I've since stopped engaging, but no one could ever tell me why the great coverup. Moon landing hoax motivations I get. Kennedy assassination motivations I get. But what's the motivation for the flat Earth cover up? Serves no functional purpose.
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It's jewish well poison.
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NASA fakes a lot of what it claims to do and you can see way farther at sea level than you ought to be able to.
NASA faking stuff may just be money-laundering.
Seeing things that ought to be miles below the curvature of the earth may just be a strange form of global refraction that we haven't yet been able to reproduce.
If you really educate yourself on the topic you'll understand why people think it's not all like what they're telling us.
I've looked into it fairly extensively and come to the conclusion that there's no way to be sure but thinking it might be flat is way less retarded than your public school education will have taught you to believe.
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[ - ] Reisk -2 points 10 monthsAug 2, 2024 23:17:17 ago (+1/-3)
You don't see below the curvature beyond a well known and documented refraction of light from just above sea-level viewing.
Flat Earth is exactly as retarded as public school education taught you to believe.
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No one said it did. What kind of jewish argument method are you trying to use? Attempting to appear to invalidate my point by stating an irrelevant fact about the subject? This shows that you're either a) manipulative or b) stupid.
That's simply not true and there are innumerable reproducible instances of seeing things that ought to beyond the curvature. So now we see that you're either dishonest or uninformed. At this point it's looking like option b from above is more likely as an intelligent but dishonest person wouldn't expect such a bad argument to work, unless you're just trying to reassure yourself and your fellow dullards?
I don't think so. You, however, are exactly as retarded as I'd expect.
I think the earth is a globe, but I don't know that; and neither does anyone who hasn't been above low earth orbit. There are exactly 24 humans alive who claim to have been beyond low earth orbit. The most recent was in 1972. Have you looked into them? Have you seen the things they've said? You really should stop making strong assertions on things you know almost nothing about.
[ + ] Reisk
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Doesn't take much to be smarter than you'll ever be.
Try again.
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The fact that increasing elevation brings it into view is irrelevant. Yes it is consistent with a globe. And You and I both think it IS in fact a globe. But why does a strong enough zoom at zero elevation cause the city to apparently rise above the horizon again?
Some trick of refraction? I don't know. But I do suspect you were unaware of the effect I just described.
Another thing to consider is, why is flat earth so heavily censored? I went on a debunk deep dive awhile back to refute this flat earth nonsense once and for all (because I couldn't honestly believe people actually believed this shit) and the every time I'd find a YouTube video that wasn't just pure retardation it would be gone when I went back to it later. Usually stuff showing proof of NASA using green screens or like I described above people bringing things back above the horizon using high power zoom.
If you think there's zero reason flat earthers are suspicious you're just under-informed.
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