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If the government wants to kill us, why try so hard to ban smoking?

submitted by NiggerNiggerZooPals to whatever 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 17:59:15 ago (+17/-1)     (whatever)

I think there’s probably something beneficial to tobacco use. I’ve heard it increases testosterone so that’s one theory.

It reminds me of the raw milk issue. Why is the government so pissed when adults decide they want to drink milk that hasn’t been processed in a factory?


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[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry 6 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 18:21:29 ago (+6/-0)

It's a performance enhancing drug. It makes you sharper while calming you down. Obviously, it's not healthy to smoke anything. I don't think it's anywhere near as dangerous as they'd like us to believe. It makes a really good scapegoat for all the other shit that actually gives you cancer.

I say smoke 'em if you got 'em. Even if it is marginally dangerous to smoke, there's so many other things that can kill you anyway. Might as well enjoy the euphoria of cigarettes and coffee.

[ - ] GetWoke 4 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 22:13:21 ago (+4/-0)

Over the cigs aint great but…
They stabilize schizophrenia
& block the uptake of Covid spike protein…

[ - ] DitchPig 2 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 19:01:43 ago (+3/-1)

Cigars.

All the benefit, and non-addictive.

[ - ] Razzoriel 2 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 19:04:54 ago (+2/-0)

Yes. Cigars are excellent.

[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry 1 point 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 22:24:19 ago (+2/-1)

What? If they have nicotine they're addictive. Nicotine is more addictive than oxygen.

[ - ] DitchPig 0 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 23:07:43 ago (+1/-1)

Smoked since I was 15.

Cigars are non-addictive. You don't crave them.

Some days I just don't feel like having a cigar, or don't have time. No problem.

[ - ] OftenWrong 0 points 9 monthsAug 4, 2024 20:25:16 ago (+0/-0)

I have quit smoking several times. Most off cigars, It definitely is addictive

[ - ] DitchPig 0 points 8 monthsAug 5, 2024 09:59:05 ago (+0/-0)

What are you calling a "cigar"?

I smoked for over twenty years, vaped for a couple. both of those are highly addictive, and you constantly crave them.

I can go days without a cigar, to no noticeable effect.

So as far as I am concerned they are not addictive. I've been awake for hours, and I haven't even thought about a cigar until just now.

[ - ] Razzoriel 1 point 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 19:04:02 ago (+1/-0)

Smoking dried tobacco indeed makes it much less worse than the stuff with thousands of preservatives. Doubtful that starting to smoke at a later age will take your time to kill you, unless you smoke a lot.

[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry 1 point 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 22:22:58 ago (+1/-0)

I smoke the organic American Spirits and use nicotine pouches. I'm thoroughly addicted, as everyone should be.

[ - ] Lost_In_The_Thinking 3 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 19:21:41 ago (+3/-0)

Tobacco does not cause cancer, despite what the US government and CDC say. Tobacco use been associated with some diseases, but it does not have a one-to-one correlation. If most tobacco users do not get cancer, it should not be called a cancer causing substance.

It's banned because 1) nicotine is habit forming, 2) governments are nanny-states and make decision they think are "good" for the public, and 3) they are aware that making tobacco more expensive and more difficult to purchase and use will demoralize people, and 4) governments can then tax the shit out of it, making it a cash cow for any government.

[ - ] Trope 0 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 21:04:42 ago (+0/-0)

The one thing I’ll never forget about tobacco is the amount of lead isotopes natively found in the plant. It is to great benefit that the majority of us do not damage our lung and cardiovascular tissues through smoke inhalation.

[ - ] taoV 0 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 23:20:31 ago (+0/-0)

I grow tobacco in the garden because it absorbs heavy metals from the soil. Anyone growing their own for consumption though should be able to control that, so the plant isnt necessarily harmful on that basis.

[ - ] FreeinTX 2 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 18:08:21 ago (+2/-0)

Tucker suggested nicotine was a miracle drug with lots of benefits, including a resistance to tyranny.

[ - ] Thyhorrorcosmic103 2 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 18:31:39 ago (+2/-0)

I used to chew. It will indeed put hair on your chest.

[ - ] xmasskull 0 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 18:57:22 ago (+0/-0)

The "RedMan"type or Skoal variety?

[ - ] Thyhorrorcosmic103 1 point 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 19:10:49 ago (+1/-0)

Levi garrett and grizzly. Copenhagen when I’m feeling fancy.

[ - ] PotatoWhisperer2 0 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 22:54:16 ago (+0/-0)

Copenhagen made me a pretty penny on deployments. Paid for all the books I had shipped out there and then left for others.

[ - ] 4thTurning 2 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 21:29:10 ago (+2/-0)

Because the treatment for lung cancer is super expensive

[ - ] DitchPig 1 point 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 19:01:11 ago (+1/-0)

Nicotine promotes testosterone production, and is the single best neuroprotectant that we know of.

Smoke cigars, which are 100% tobacco. Cigarettes are for peasants.

[ - ] NiggerNiggerZooPals [op] 2 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 19:27:38 ago (+2/-0)

I smoke mostly cigars. After I learned about how cigarettes are made, I don’t think I could smoke them again. No wonder they kill you.

Recently picked up a pipe and have been enjoying that as well.

[ - ] DitchPig 0 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 19:30:12 ago (+0/-0)

I smoked cigarettes for decades, like a retard.

[ - ] Stonkmar 1 point 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 21:04:52 ago (+1/-0)

The people that dealt with the dead during the Black Plaque smoked to keep it away. And it seemed to work. (plus other stuff)

[ - ] Ragnar 1 point 9 monthsAug 4, 2024 00:43:26 ago (+1/-0)

Similarly for butter, meat, cheese (all dairy), sugar

[ - ] DitchPig 0 points 9 monthsAug 4, 2024 07:32:07 ago (+0/-0)

"ragnar" goes full retard at the end of his poorly constructed sentence.

Fucking retard.

[ - ] Ragnar 0 points 9 monthsAug 4, 2024 09:52:25 ago (+0/-0)

Sure, faggot cuck. Keep believing in the mainstream narrative. Low carb and anti sugar is absolutely mainstream bs, it’s not just on youtube your homosexual gurus regurgitating bullshit, even the doctors are recommending it

[ - ] DitchPig 0 points 9 monthsAug 4, 2024 12:39:51 ago (+0/-0)

Cool story, "ragnar".

Please eat more sugar.

[ - ] Ragnar 0 points 9 monthsAug 4, 2024 16:49:25 ago (+0/-0)

If only you knew how wrong you are.

Get cucked more, buch cuck

[ - ] DitchPig 0 points 9 monthsAug 4, 2024 17:22:13 ago (+0/-0)

lol, "ragnar".
Cool name, where'd you get it from?

[ - ] Ragnar -1 points 9 monthsAug 5, 2024 00:30:53 ago (+0/-1)

My ancestors. Unlike you fucking rice burner

[ - ] DitchPig -1 points 8 monthsAug 5, 2024 09:55:52 ago (+0/-1)

You are so fucking stupid, "ragnar".

[ - ] BulletStopper 1 point 9 monthsAug 4, 2024 13:02:13 ago (+1/-0)

But they don't want to ban buying tobacco products, because they are now a source of revenue.

So buy lots of cigarettes, because they really need the money. Just don't smoke them.

[ - ] dulcima 0 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 19:09:05 ago (+1/-1)

Cigarettes are loaded with chemicals.

My father died from lung cancer years before he should have. Smoker since his early teens.

[ - ] Laputois 0 points 9 monthsAug 4, 2024 07:26:52 ago (+0/-0)

My mother smoked so much when she was pregnant with me that my relatives called me puff when I was born. Both parents were heavy smokers, exposed to second hand smoke and my allowance at 12 years old was a carton of cigarettes weekly. I smoked until I was around 45. I was doing around 2 packs a day. Had a lot of health issues after quitting. Think about it, I had been exposed to nicotine prenatally and my entire life up to that point. My lung xrays were consternating to medical providers. No scarring, discoloration...

[ - ] BlueEyedAngloMasterRaceGod 0 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 22:48:31 ago (+0/-0)

because you forget how repulsive it was sitting next to a smoker everywhere you go

[ - ] AlexanderMorose13 0 points 9 monthsAug 3, 2024 23:25:09 ago (+0/-0)

Smoking and nicotine are not inherently bad; it's the use and the temperance of the user that affects the outcome. Those who smoke and control their intake have boosted levels of critical thinking and focus. There's been studies that determined conclusively that men who smoke and then died had spouses that lived longer than spouses that had husbands who didn't smoke.

I smoked for years on and off. I just recently quit again and I haven't smoked for about 3 months. I've noticed that the frequency of irregular heartbeats has dropped significantly, but I'm under a constant amount of work stress and I've been seeing the link between how smoking calms me down vs. just taking the habit away. I'm probably going to stay clean for half a year to a year longer and then pick the habit back up again when I feel the time is right.

[ - ] Badgeroo 0 points 9 monthsAug 4, 2024 02:19:33 ago (+0/-0)

They could easily just ban them, like all other banned drugs.

They give the illusion they care and they're increasing the cost to "force you to stop" they can make insane money while justifying the price hikes.

They're almost 80% tax.

Same thing with alcohol. Too much money in it to ban.

[ - ] Laputois 0 points 9 monthsAug 4, 2024 07:12:26 ago (+0/-0)

It's not the tobacco, its the nicotine. Nicotine is beneficial in the proper dose. Humans are remarkably resilient, cigarettes do not kill you fast enough. They do lead to expensive longterm medical care that the government AND insurance companies would rather not pay for.

[ - ] Gowithit 0 points 6 monthsOct 8, 2024 12:03:36 ago (+0/-0)

https://thefern.org/2024/02/growing-tobacco-in-the-united-states-no-longer-makes-sense/

north carolina getting hit like that...

from the internet:

Tobacco is grown in over 100 countries, but the major producers are:
China: The world's leading producer, accounting for nearly 40% of the world's tobacco. The tobacco industry is a major boost to local economies in China, paying an equivalent of about $141.9 billion in taxes a year.
India: A major producer of tobacco.
Brazil: A major producer of tobacco.
United States: A major producer of tobacco, with the Virginia-Carolina tobacco belt being the main area of cultivation.
Zimbabwe: A major producer of tobacco.
Indonesia: A major producer of tobacco.
Zambia: A major producer of tobacco.
Pakistan: A major producer of tobacco.
Turkey: A major producer of tobacco.
Malawi: A major producer of tobacco.

how dare america be on that list.Get them off by any means necessary. Good luck getting a loan to fix your tobacco farm if its already being deemed as being "dead and worthless" . You'll get that loan only if you agree to farm crickets or soy, boy.

[ - ] i_scream_trucks -1 points 9 monthsAug 4, 2024 01:31:52 ago (+0/-1)

Follow the money.

In Oz 'health' was used to jack up the price of cigarettes six fold, then vapes come in and eat into the tax dollars so vapes get banned. Oh and nicorette spray went from $25 to $75 for a twin pack.

In Victoria safety = tax revenue. Cigarettes will never be banned and cars will never be speed limited because the loss of revenue for tax and speeding fines would send the nanny state broke.

[ - ] DitchPig 0 points 9 monthsAug 4, 2024 07:37:35 ago (+0/-0)

I don't know how you live in that country, bro.

I spent ten years in SA, and I will never set foot in oz again.