This is a stretch. Women are just more agreeable than men and lean more on their empathy emotions. They think niggers are the same as every other race on the globe. My feeels
Women have a lot of biological urges that, when ignored, eventually makes them go crazy. All the jew media programming tells them to ignore those urges (nurturing, having children, being loved, etc) but they still need to answer those urges so they direct them towards animals. Some get a couple dogs, some get a lot of cats, some push for more invaders into their own country.
The jew is well aware of this, of course, they know that women are easily manipulated and play on them. At first it was just through advertising to sell them products they don't need. They did that by destroying their self esteem. Now they are preying on women's biological urges to destroy their host countries.
I'd say that the reason they do it is because they're intensely emotional, enjoy doing the opposite of what's logical or what men think is best, and expect that they will eternally be defended by the same men they seek to annoy.
The problem isn't that white men don't want to fornicate with them, but that the white men the horde of whores would prefer already have and they've since moved on to younger females with fresher tighter quims.
I mean, tell yourself any silly story you want. You will anyway.
Females are selected for agreeability, and for empathy. It makes them good moms. But its a double edged sword. Agreeability and empathy and compassion are not appropriate in all situations.
Females are not selected for high libido. Maybe africans ones are, I dunno. My interest in “getting fucked” is pretty low since 40 and I certainly don’t want any dirty immigrants in my vagina. I think the average middle aged white woman is pretty much the same in this respect. You are deluding yourself by attributing male attributes onto women.
And theres always a certain percentage of white men who will fuck anything. If it was really about fucking, those guys would be professional gigolos but theres not a big market there. Men will do it for free and women still dont want it.
You are correct. Nothing sexual about it. That's the thinking of a boy or an immature young man.
Right - It's the maternal instinct ... and these women killed all of their own babies so they need something else to baby.
I chuckled at my amazing wife and my sisters ... after each kid moved out, I saw each of them (in their own ways) unwittingly try to shift their mothering instincts on to the pets, their husbands, etc. My wonderful wife said one time, shortly after one of our kids moved out: "Oh, dear, I'm sorry, I realize I am mothering you. I'll stop that." :)
Men become our best when we have something to protect. Women become their best when they have something to nurture.
Remove that natural order on a large scale (destroy marriage as an institution, kill the babies, etc.) and everything goes to hell.
I think theres something to your observation that we (women) want to mommy the world. A large part of political correctness and these controlling bureaucracies that try to force everyone to vax up and wear masks is the female factor. A larger proportion of women are in decision making positions and we are now talked down to like 5 year olds. Meanwhile the real children of these bureaucrats are being raised by mexicans.
I think you're right about libido, but I do think women have some kind of instinct around inviting conflict.
For example this happened last night. I took a woman out on a date and we were walking back to the car from the restaurant. This is at night and the street was pretty empty. Not in the hood but it's a city and can still be pretty unsafe due to lots of homeless. There's a loud noise of something slamming, the kind to make you go on alert, she clearly took notice and even said "wtf was that?" No obvious danger, but like I said appropriate to be on alert now.
At this point we're not far from the car. No need to rush but why just hang out on a sketchy corner right? No, she decides that now is an ideal time to just stop on the corner and chat about some inane landscaping feature that caught her eye. Even when we eventually get to the car, she's just sitting there blabbing with the door open for an extended time. This isn't her normal rhythm when I take her places, she was clearly dawdling.
That's just an example and I've seen this kind of thing plenty of times with plenty of women. I don't think it's conscious but it makes enough sense that females watching males in violent conflict is near universal for every living creature on this planet. I should repeat I don't think y'all do this stuff consciously but there's some kind of instinctual drive there. Not necessarily for actual violence, but maybe just for the demonstration that your men can handle danger? Idk that's just a guess I don't really understand why y'all do it.
Anyway whatever it is I assume it contributes to what OP is talking about but just on a societal scale.
I just don’t think from that story that your date was trying to engineer a conflict between you and a random lurking nigger, which is what I think you are implying. Not even uncousciously. I think that you think strategically about violence and warfare directed at you from other males and your date does not. She thinks “danger” or “not danger”. She sensed danger but then forgot about it quickly because she has never been beaten in a alley. If we women loved male violence, we would be watching alot more MMA than we are. I have zero appetite for real violence. I don’t even like to watch car crashes in movies.
Not necessarily for actual violence, but maybe just for the demonstration that your men can handle danger? Idk that's just a guess I don't really understand why y'all do it.
Ok Ill accept that theres something like an instinct there. Females have observed males killing each other to gain access to females since before our ancestors were human. Females with strong allegiances to the defeated males may have been killed off quite often . This is a form of intersexual selection and I think it describes why some women have “transferrable loyalty.” It could also be why some women enjoy sexual sadism and are drawn to abusive men.
But I really think you are overthinking the walk to the car scenario. Maybe she was dawdling but that might have been for any reason at all.
Yeah it's weird, one time there was an incident where there actually was a real threat and I remember her talking about how safe she felt with me there and how good that made her feel. Like she needed the danger first in order to feel the safety.
Just remind her that while you are the studly, brilliant, and handsome man she knows you to be, you are not Superman. Yet. Give her ways to help you be ever vigilant against threat while having fun doing it. I'd give her a stilleto and teach her how to use it, then work your way onto concealed carry.
I'm not overthinking it, I was just using it as a recent example of something I've seen enough women do to give background to my point. No she wasn't secretly hoping I'd have to shank someone but probably just liked seeing that I didn't look scared or rush when she caused a delay. And like I said, it was probably unconscious rather than with intent.
I think this kind of stuff is way more noticible to guys when it happens because we can feel an uncomfortable sense of being tested. For women it must feel so natural it goes unnoticed.
Or you just could be reading something into her behavior that just isn’t there. I think its a far more likely explanation that she was insensate to any danger of the situation than that she was aware of a potential danger but unconsciously trying to increase your exposure to it to test your manliness. That is an unreasonable explanation of her dawdling imo. I think if you spend alot of time on sites like this you are bound to attribute all kinds of machiavellian behaviors to female behavior, and the majority of it is untrue or grossly exagerated. I assure you its not natural to intentionally increase one’s danger to a dangerous situation to test your dates manliness, unconsciously or otherwise. Thats a ridiculously convoluted explanation. It must be difficult for you to date women when you hold such a paranoid view of their motives. Almost as difficult as me having to hear these theories.
Helena, I think you're smart, but I also think you've been exposed to too many hardcore women haters on here and your kneejerk response is to disregard any male point of view on women.
I had an ex once excitedly exclaim, "Chase him!" after someone tried to road rage me but got scared and drove off after I got out of the car. Is that one too conveluted?
You're just going to have to trust that I have reasonable instincts and am not actually retarded. I was there and I know her. Yes, you're a woman, but you weren't there and you don't know her or me. The only thing complicated about my story is that it's hard trying to put irrational emotional drives and behavior into words.
but I also think you've been exposed to too many hardcore women haters on here and your kneejerk response is to disregard any male point of view on women.
I think theres some truth to what you say here. There are a range of views expressed by the men here about women but I tend to hear it as a monolithic voice of the average goat which is full of the woman hate that I have to endure every day Im here. Unfortunately the majority of the men here are either hardcore woman haters or softcore woman haters. And I like alot of you. But I can’t believe the crackpot women theories I hear out of even the best of you. Its disappointing and very depressing. And its not just assholes like dangus or trumpmanI. cant believe the shit that gets heavily upvoted every day. Every day there are men trying to smear white women on this site— trying to blame white women while avoiding responsibility for the deeds of white men.
I am very fucking jaded at this point and I don’t know if there is a place for me here. I really liked men all my life— I was never anti-male, but after 6 years of these sites, I am fucking getting there. White men who purport to be moral and love their race gleefully celebrating the humiliation and injury of white women — the majority of you have been “kneejerk” conditioned to do this it seems.
I haven’t noticed you as being particularly egregious in this area. But Im sorry, that hypothesis that you formed about why your date was dawdling seems crazy to me. And I do think you might have jumped to that conclusion because of this place.
I had an ex once excitedly exclaim, "Chase him!" after someone tried to road rage me but got scared and drove off after I got out of the car. Is that one too conveluted?
Why do you assume that’s because she’s a female and she’s trying to test your mettle as a tough guy? It seems like you are delivering this as evidence of what women are like. I mean, I used to be a bit more aggressive as a driver than I am now. I would occassionally revenge drive or cut people off if I felt they fucked me over. So in the passenger seat, I might say “ cut that guy off” or “don’t let that fucker in” because it is what I would do when I was behind the wheel. It wasn’t because I was trying to see if my driver was aggressive enough. If you had a buddy sitting next to you while you were driving saying “Chase him!”, would you be analyzing his sexual motives? No, you’d just be thinking, mind your own business while Im behind the wheel.
Now Im much more cautious and conservative as a driver. I frequently find myself telling the person driving not to get into beefs with other drivers. I just did that the other day, because I often ride with someone (male) who gets road rage. So what does that mean? Am I gay?
On this site every fucking little thing some random woman does is a referendum on all females everywhere: “Did you see that? They all do that! Its because they want to ride the cock carousel day and night.” Its dumb. The average goat doesn’t seem to understand women at all and is as bad (and hateful) as the average feminist at comprehending the opposite sex. I see MGTurds and feminists as matching bookends. I wish I didn’t have to hear these retarded explanations about how women are, they are basically all WRONG.
Every day there are men trying to smear white women on this site
No argument there. It's one of the reasons voat kind of sucks now, and it's not just here, it's all over the internet. I can share my male pov on why this happened.
I think it's partly a response to feminist vitriol. Growing up internalizing anti-male programming, it's not easy to dump that mindset. The response of "well maybe we're great and YALL are the assholes after all!" is a natural response to that and feels good, just like it feels good to shed anti-White programing with hyperbole about every single nigger being sub-60 IQ.
Then there's the redpill stuff, which I think ultimately boils down to men who are disconnected from their instincts needing literal explanations of the behavior that would normally be driven by those instincts to fill that gap. I fell into this category enough to witness this going from somewhat productive around 2012 or so when I'd seek it out to the kind of lazy woman bashing you see today. I do think laziness was the driver, it's easy to produce and upvoat over the top catharsis and I can't overstate the massive pain and frustration many of the men in that realm feel at the impossible catch-22 they see themselves in.
It's also easy to see that kind of hyperbole as harmless due it being so over the top which is why you don't hear sensible guys challenging it very much. If it's any consolation hearing some of your complaints against that stuff on here a while back made me realize how common it's become and I agree its just as bad and damaging as feminist vitriol. I assume the kikes have picked up on this too and I'm sure egg it on at every opportunity.
Anyway, my story wasn't meant to disparage women but more of an anecdote that's EXTREMELY relatable to men. I can understand how it sounds crazy to you if you've never been on the other side of it but really that's the nature of instinct - you do it without noticing.
The "chase him" story for example - I can say with 100% confidence that she wasn't annoyed at the driver, she was turned on and losing herself in the thrill of me almost getting in a fight. We were both young (around 20?) if that helps, but it was clear as day that she liked it and why she liked it. It actually shocked me at the time because I didn't know that was a thing and I had never heard of a red pill or incel at the time.
That doesn't have to be a criticism of women though, just an acceptance of human nature. I was shocked to realize some guys really enjoy fighting enough to start them with people for no reason. It does feel good to fight but since I usually override that instinct I would probably assume that a fight I witnessed started for a reason if that makes sense as an analogy.
Maybe she was dawdling but that might have been for any reason at all.
probably shocked he would sit there patiently and let her talk for that long and figured keep going while she had the chance. Or .... and this one might be the actual reason, showing him that she could stay aloof in a situation. Me? I'd have booked it I dont care I'm not trying to impress anyone.
Maybe. Like she wants to come off as tough and street savvy? Thats somewhat believeable.
I still think the most likely explanation is that he perceived danger but she did not. We don’t even know if it was a dangerous situation, we are only going on his word for that. To imagine that she perceived there were lurking niggers about but that she thought she might drag out the situation to test his mettle or whatever is just an insanely convoluted explanation. Occams razor.
These guys just think we just sit around twirling our moustaches and devising new ways to fuck them over 24/7. If she was really thinking this way she’d be some evil genius. Most women are neither evil nor geniuses and its really rare to be both.
Most young women are oblivious of the dangers of bad neighborhoods, and even alot of older women are as well, such as sheltered suburban women. If you are brainwashed into thinking everyone is just like you and we can all be friends, you will not perceive dangerous situations. Over time we have a few brushes with danger and we begin to understand the world better. I think this is the most simple explanation for her behavior.
It would be interesting if he told his theory to her about that situation. but she’d probably never speak to him again.
Oh the old they-need-you-to-treat-them-bad hypothesis. Yeah Ive never heard that one on this forum before.
Maybe you aren’t selecting very good women. I suggest that you pursue a type and that your taste did not radically change after you were saved or whatever the story is .
Or you may just have a biased and unrealistic definition of what “fucked me over” actually constitutes. Let me clue you into a little known fact. People date, fall in love, marry, for their own selfish benefit. No one will ever fall in love with you to save you, no matter what they say or believe. They are in it to save themselves. Thats why you do it too. None of these women are perfect — they all have major character defects and so do you. Is it possible that you have unrealistic expectations of these women? Do you expect them to be more selfless than you are?
It isn't. Most women are not conscious of their own behavior, but are incredibly keen on other women's behavior, so that they can 'get' them later.
She wanted some sort of conflict, either you forcing her to move it, get in the car, etc, or watching you fight off some nigger. Either way would get her wet. And she doesn't know why, doesn't care to introspect on it. She's just following her instincts/feelings.
[ - ] CHIRO 1 point 8 monthsAug 21, 2024 15:56:38 ago (+1/-0)
How do you explain the push of women into politics and leadership roles? Clearly, trait agreeability doesn't explain this. I'm largely in agreement with the discussion in this thread, but I think there's something unexplained. Is there some kind of conditioning happening, and what about female psychology explains its success?
[ - ] dulcima 1 point 8 monthsAug 21, 2024 18:44:47 ago (+1/-0)
"Internet approval" shouldn't be underestimated either. The moment refugees and mass immigration gains social approval, all these women will be virtue signalling about it on tik tok - even if mindlessly.
So I have to agree with the other person that says that on average women over 40 are much more interested in sex and want to get fucked all the time.
You may be an outlier. Do you have a medical condition are you on a pill have you had a hysterectomy are you low soy or oversoyed or something like that?
Are you married with a man around because yeah then maybe you don't want to have sex but let me tell you the single women over 40 all want to jump on it.
The average women over 40 is definitely not more interested in sex than the average women under 40. Why would mother nature do that? Hormones drive libido and women over 40 have less hormones. Women talk about these things. Theres plenty of medical literature out there to support this. Im not an outlier. All my lady parts are intact. Im single and I am over 40 and I don’t want to jump on it. Could it be that you are forming opinions based on bad sources of information? Have you actually spent time with women over 40 (mom doesn’t count)?
Not that any of this stuff is genuine. You get these phony prudes in both sexes. I used to be one of them myself.
That I'm on the side of authenticity is why the system is doomed. I have the silver bullet. Stale, stodgy conservatives have no ideas on how to start a movement - and the pedo, anti-woman, and prude shit is increasingly a weapon of state agents. It has no authority, legitimacy, and no one takes it seriously. Only the biggest assholes on the internet traffic in the pedo accusations particularly.
Just realize that if it doesn't apply to you then who cares, right? The fact that most women are vapid whores shouldn't make you feel insulted as long as you aren't. Most men are vapid whoremongers.
Tendencies in how females think about things seem insane to men. It's kind of maddening. Some tendencies in men seem retarded to women I'm sure. That's gonna cause friction.
Then you have the resentment from men about sex. Women control the keys to the kingdom, so to speak, so there's a lot of frustration and resentment there.
All that on top of the fact that we're on a site where we all know the world is permafucked and we're arguing about what to do about it or more accurately spitting in the wind trying to pretend there's any hope for it.
Tensions run high when you all know you're on a sinking ship. Don't let it get to you.
Unrelated, will you sign my petition to repeal the 19th Amendment? =p
Are you cuckolds really taking a woman's interest and sexuality at her word? What was the first fucking lesson in the bible.
Why are you all such cuckolds? Really, why? You know better and here you are listening to a woman lie to you and possibly to herself (or really, more a lack of self awareness) and you take it as word.
Fuck all of you dumb fucking wannabe intellectual idiots. You're all just dumb fucking submissive who beat your chests when you think you can get away with it, but submit so fucking hard so fast.
Are you cuckolds really taking a woman's interest and sexuality at her word? What was the first fucking lesson in the bible. Why are you all such cuckolds? Really, why? You know better and here you are listening to a woman lie to you and possibly to herself (or really, more a lack of self awareness) and you take it as word.
Im not a cuckold, Im a woman. I know what my own feelings and motives are. I have some insights in to what other women think and feel. Im trying to be as honest as I can. You may dismiss me because “women lie” but I think its a mistake. I suggest making friends with women irl because I suspect everything you know about them comes from forums like upgoat which are full of men.
My interest in “getting fucked” is pretty low since 40 and I certainly don’t want any dirty immigrants in my vagina. I think the average middle aged white woman is pretty much the same in this respect.
Not true at all. When I was 25 I had a tryst with a 41 year old woman and she rode so hard that I had pretty much a permanent bruise on my pubic bone for the duration of our time together.
Well I'm glad to hear your perspective since I realized you're a woman after reading about half of your comment. Why do you think so many women especially these single older women seem to always be welcoming refugees?
since I realized you're a woman after reading about half of your comment.
For a few moments when I wake up in the morning, I feel like a perfectly normal person. Then I remember.....
I think younger women are more sympathetic to immigrants than old ones. Because young is dumb. But there is certainly no shortage of middle aged and older women advocating for shitty foreigners to join us. Like I said, women are pre-programmed to feel empathy because of our biological role as mothers. So when you flood the TV and internet with empathy inducing stories of immigrants and you censor their distructive undesireable behaviors, the most empathetic people will be the most susceptible to the propaganda.
I actually think these tendencies begin to weaken as women age (some of this behavior is clearly estrogen driven). But by then many women have formed political loyalties to democrap ideologies. Maybe older women are more visible as activists because they work their way up these libtard orgs to become decision makers? Or maybe its because older women have more confidence to speak out on or are more effective speakers, so they are given more coverage? I mean they dont just give away the anchor chair to anyone at Democracy Now!. That old bag had to pay her dues.
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This faggot is obsessed with nigger dicks.
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The jew is well aware of this, of course, they know that women are easily manipulated and play on them. At first it was just through advertising to sell them products they don't need. They did that by destroying their self esteem. Now they are preying on women's biological urges to destroy their host countries.
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They hear stories about violence and rape and get excited. Hybristophilia
It's why nobody ever let them vote
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[ - ] DieselForever 8 points 8 monthsAug 21, 2024 08:28:42 ago (+8/-0)
Lovely theory but sometimes the simplest answers are the most likely. In this case, they are just fucking stupid.
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White men of good character wouldn't touch them with a bargepole.
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I mean, tell yourself any silly story you want. You will anyway.
Females are selected for agreeability, and for empathy. It makes them good moms. But its a double edged sword. Agreeability and empathy and compassion are not appropriate in all situations.
Females are not selected for high libido. Maybe africans ones are, I dunno. My interest in “getting fucked” is pretty low since 40 and I certainly don’t want any dirty immigrants in my vagina. I think the average middle aged white woman is pretty much the same in this respect. You are deluding yourself by attributing male attributes onto women.
And theres always a certain percentage of white men who will fuck anything. If it was really about fucking, those guys would be professional gigolos but theres not a big market there. Men will do it for free and women still dont want it.
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[ - ] stillmostlyfriendly 9 points 8 monthsAug 21, 2024 11:29:57 ago (+9/-0)
Right - It's the maternal instinct ... and these women killed all of their own babies so they need something else to baby.
I chuckled at my amazing wife and my sisters ... after each kid moved out, I saw each of them (in their own ways) unwittingly try to shift their mothering instincts on to the pets, their husbands, etc. My wonderful wife said one time, shortly after one of our kids moved out: "Oh, dear, I'm sorry, I realize I am mothering you. I'll stop that." :)
Men become our best when we have something to protect. Women become their best when they have something to nurture.
Remove that natural order on a large scale (destroy marriage as an institution, kill the babies, etc.) and everything goes to hell.
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Couple things happend in the 60s
The pill
Feminism
Sexual revolution
Drugs went mainstream thanks hippies
Civil rights aka niggers are equal
Music went down Satan's path
All this led to the destruction of the white Christian family
And now you get kamala Harris running for president and will probably win when they steal it again.
Welcome to South Africa 2.0 the American story
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[ - ] SecretHitler 2 points 8 monthsAug 21, 2024 12:25:14 ago (+2/-0)
For example this happened last night. I took a woman out on a date and we were walking back to the car from the restaurant. This is at night and the street was pretty empty. Not in the hood but it's a city and can still be pretty unsafe due to lots of homeless. There's a loud noise of something slamming, the kind to make you go on alert, she clearly took notice and even said "wtf was that?" No obvious danger, but like I said appropriate to be on alert now.
At this point we're not far from the car. No need to rush but why just hang out on a sketchy corner right? No, she decides that now is an ideal time to just stop on the corner and chat about some inane landscaping feature that caught her eye. Even when we eventually get to the car, she's just sitting there blabbing with the door open for an extended time. This isn't her normal rhythm when I take her places, she was clearly dawdling.
That's just an example and I've seen this kind of thing plenty of times with plenty of women. I don't think it's conscious but it makes enough sense that females watching males in violent conflict is near universal for every living creature on this planet. I should repeat I don't think y'all do this stuff consciously but there's some kind of instinctual drive there. Not necessarily for actual violence, but maybe just for the demonstration that your men can handle danger? Idk that's just a guess I don't really understand why y'all do it.
Anyway whatever it is I assume it contributes to what OP is talking about but just on a societal scale.
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Ok Ill accept that theres something like an instinct there. Females have observed males killing each other to gain access to females since before our ancestors were human. Females with strong allegiances to the defeated males may have been killed off quite often . This is a form of intersexual selection and I think it describes why some women have “transferrable loyalty.” It could also be why some women enjoy sexual sadism and are drawn to abusive men.
But I really think you are overthinking the walk to the car scenario. Maybe she was dawdling but that might have been for any reason at all.
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I think this kind of stuff is way more noticible to guys when it happens because we can feel an uncomfortable sense of being tested. For women it must feel so natural it goes unnoticed.
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but I also think you've been exposed to too many hardcore women haters on here and your kneejerk response is to disregard any male point of view on women.
I had an ex once excitedly exclaim, "Chase him!" after someone tried to road rage me but got scared and drove off after I got out of the car. Is that one too conveluted?
You're just going to have to trust that I have reasonable instincts and am not actually retarded. I was there and I know her. Yes, you're a woman, but you weren't there and you don't know her or me. The only thing complicated about my story is that it's hard trying to put irrational emotional drives and behavior into words.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 8 monthsAug 25, 2024 16:57:30 ago (+0/-0)
I think theres some truth to what you say here. There are a range of views expressed by the men here about women but I tend to hear it as a monolithic voice of the average goat which is full of the woman hate that I have to endure every day Im here. Unfortunately the majority of the men here are either hardcore woman haters or softcore woman haters. And I like alot of you. But I can’t believe the crackpot women theories I hear out of even the best of you. Its disappointing and very depressing. And its not just assholes like dangus or trumpmanI. cant believe the shit that gets heavily upvoted every day. Every day there are men trying to smear white women on this site— trying to blame white women while avoiding responsibility for the deeds of white men.
I am very fucking jaded at this point and I don’t know if there is a place for me here. I really liked men all my life— I was never anti-male, but after 6 years of these sites, I am fucking getting there. White men who purport to be moral and love their race gleefully celebrating the humiliation and injury of white women — the majority of you have been “kneejerk” conditioned to do this it seems.
I haven’t noticed you as being particularly egregious in this area. But Im sorry, that hypothesis that you formed about why your date was dawdling seems crazy to me. And I do think you might have jumped to that conclusion because of this place.
Why do you assume that’s because she’s a female and she’s trying to test your mettle as a tough guy? It seems like you are delivering this as evidence of what women are like. I mean, I used to be a bit more aggressive as a driver than I am now. I would occassionally revenge drive or cut people off if I felt they fucked me over. So in the passenger seat, I might say “ cut that guy off” or “don’t let that fucker in” because it is what I would do when I was behind the wheel. It wasn’t because I was trying to see if my driver was aggressive enough. If you had a buddy sitting next to you while you were driving saying “Chase him!”, would you be analyzing his sexual motives? No, you’d just be thinking, mind your own business while Im behind the wheel.
Now Im much more cautious and conservative as a driver. I frequently find myself telling the person driving not to get into beefs with other drivers. I just did that the other day, because I often ride with someone (male) who gets road rage. So what does that mean? Am I gay?
On this site every fucking little thing some random woman does is a referendum on all females everywhere: “Did you see that? They all do that! Its because they want to ride the cock carousel day and night.” Its dumb. The average goat doesn’t seem to understand women at all and is as bad (and hateful) as the average feminist at comprehending the opposite sex. I see MGTurds and feminists as matching bookends. I wish I didn’t have to hear these retarded explanations about how women are, they are basically all WRONG.
[ + ] SecretHitler
[ - ] SecretHitler 0 points 8 monthsAug 27, 2024 11:23:10 ago (+0/-0)
No argument there. It's one of the reasons voat kind of sucks now, and it's not just here, it's all over the internet. I can share my male pov on why this happened.
I think it's partly a response to feminist vitriol. Growing up internalizing anti-male programming, it's not easy to dump that mindset. The response of "well maybe we're great and YALL are the assholes after all!" is a natural response to that and feels good, just like it feels good to shed anti-White programing with hyperbole about every single nigger being sub-60 IQ.
Then there's the redpill stuff, which I think ultimately boils down to men who are disconnected from their instincts needing literal explanations of the behavior that would normally be driven by those instincts to fill that gap. I fell into this category enough to witness this going from somewhat productive around 2012 or so when I'd seek it out to the kind of lazy woman bashing you see today. I do think laziness was the driver, it's easy to produce and upvoat over the top catharsis and I can't overstate the massive pain and frustration many of the men in that realm feel at the impossible catch-22 they see themselves in.
It's also easy to see that kind of hyperbole as harmless due it being so over the top which is why you don't hear sensible guys challenging it very much. If it's any consolation hearing some of your complaints against that stuff on here a while back made me realize how common it's become and I agree its just as bad and damaging as feminist vitriol. I assume the kikes have picked up on this too and I'm sure egg it on at every opportunity.
Anyway, my story wasn't meant to disparage women but more of an anecdote that's EXTREMELY relatable to men. I can understand how it sounds crazy to you if you've never been on the other side of it but really that's the nature of instinct - you do it without noticing.
The "chase him" story for example - I can say with 100% confidence that she wasn't annoyed at the driver, she was turned on and losing herself in the thrill of me almost getting in a fight. We were both young (around 20?) if that helps, but it was clear as day that she liked it and why she liked it. It actually shocked me at the time because I didn't know that was a thing and I had never heard of a red pill or incel at the time.
That doesn't have to be a criticism of women though, just an acceptance of human nature. I was shocked to realize some guys really enjoy fighting enough to start them with people for no reason. It does feel good to fight but since I usually override that instinct I would probably assume that a fight I witnessed started for a reason if that makes sense as an analogy.
[ + ] Gowithit
[ - ] Gowithit 0 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 09:17:17 ago (+0/-0)
probably shocked he would sit there patiently and let her talk for that long and figured keep going while she had the chance. Or .... and this one might be the actual reason, showing him that she could stay aloof in a situation. Me? I'd have booked it I dont care I'm not trying to impress anyone.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 09:49:04 ago (+0/-0)
Maybe. Like she wants to come off as tough and street savvy? Thats somewhat believeable.
I still think the most likely explanation is that he perceived danger but she did not. We don’t even know if it was a dangerous situation, we are only going on his word for that. To imagine that she perceived there were lurking niggers about but that she thought she might drag out the situation to test his mettle or whatever is just an insanely convoluted explanation. Occams razor.
These guys just think we just sit around twirling our moustaches and devising new ways to fuck them over 24/7. If she was really thinking this way she’d be some evil genius. Most women are neither evil nor geniuses and its really rare to be both.
Most young women are oblivious of the dangers of bad neighborhoods, and even alot of older women are as well, such as sheltered suburban women. If you are brainwashed into thinking everyone is just like you and we can all be friends, you will not perceive dangerous situations. Over time we have a few brushes with danger and we begin to understand the world better. I think this is the most simple explanation for her behavior.
It would be interesting if he told his theory to her about that situation. but she’d probably never speak to him again.
[ + ] SecretHitler
[ - ] SecretHitler 0 points 8 monthsAug 25, 2024 02:19:27 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 8 monthsAug 25, 2024 16:12:26 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Doglegwarrior
[ - ] Doglegwarrior 0 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 15:21:26 ago (+0/-0)
Shit makes no sense.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 16:21:32 ago (+0/-0)
Maybe you aren’t selecting very good women. I suggest that you pursue a type and that your taste did not radically change after you were saved or whatever the story is .
Or you may just have a biased and unrealistic definition of what “fucked me over” actually constitutes. Let me clue you into a little known fact. People date, fall in love, marry, for their own selfish benefit. No one will ever fall in love with you to save you, no matter what they say or believe. They are in it to save themselves. Thats why you do it too. None of these women are perfect — they all have major character defects and so do you. Is it possible that you have unrealistic expectations of these women? Do you expect them to be more selfless than you are?
[ + ] PotatoWhisperer2
[ - ] PotatoWhisperer2 1 point 8 monthsAug 21, 2024 12:58:05 ago (+1/-0)
It isn't. Most women are not conscious of their own behavior, but are incredibly keen on other women's behavior, so that they can 'get' them later.
She wanted some sort of conflict, either you forcing her to move it, get in the car, etc, or watching you fight off some nigger. Either way would get her wet. And she doesn't know why, doesn't care to introspect on it. She's just following her instincts/feelings.
This is why all women seem crazy to men.
[ + ] CHIRO
[ - ] CHIRO 1 point 8 monthsAug 21, 2024 15:56:38 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] dulcima
[ - ] dulcima 1 point 8 monthsAug 21, 2024 18:44:47 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Crackinjokes
[ - ] Crackinjokes [op] 1 point 8 monthsAug 22, 2024 09:14:01 ago (+1/-0)
You may be an outlier. Do you have a medical condition are you on a pill have you had a hysterectomy are you low soy or oversoyed or something like that?
Are you married with a man around because yeah then maybe you don't want to have sex but let me tell you the single women over 40 all want to jump on it.
[ + ] HeyJames
[ - ] HeyJames 1 point 8 monthsAug 22, 2024 15:17:34 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 8 monthsAug 22, 2024 09:55:13 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Gowithit
[ - ] Gowithit 0 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 12:29:17 ago (+0/-0)
according to cracking jokes comment you might want to rethink your s$f age range.
[ + ] Joe_McCarthy
[ - ] Joe_McCarthy 0 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 14:10:31 ago (+0/-0)
https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/OTAwWDEzMzY=/z/XXEAAOSw4YNZz9M2/$_57.JPG
https://www.enotes.com/topics/1984/questions/the-junior-anti-sex-league-in-1984-and-its-3128781#:~:text=and%20write%20novels.-,What%20is%20the%20%22Junior%20Anti%2DSex%20League%22%20in%201984,be%20conceived%20through%20sexual%20intercourse.
Not that any of this stuff is genuine. You get these phony prudes in both sexes. I used to be one of them myself.
That I'm on the side of authenticity is why the system is doomed. I have the silver bullet. Stale, stodgy conservatives have no ideas on how to start a movement - and the pedo, anti-woman, and prude shit is increasingly a weapon of state agents. It has no authority, legitimacy, and no one takes it seriously. Only the biggest assholes on the internet traffic in the pedo accusations particularly.
[ + ] 1point21jiggawatts
[ - ] 1point21jiggawatts 1 point 8 monthsAug 22, 2024 12:19:27 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 8 monthsAug 22, 2024 13:30:17 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] 1point21jiggawatts
[ - ] 1point21jiggawatts 0 points 8 monthsAug 22, 2024 14:44:44 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 8 monthsAug 22, 2024 18:09:33 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] 1point21jiggawatts
[ - ] 1point21jiggawatts 1 point 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 21:44:59 ago (+1/-0)
Tendencies in how females think about things seem insane to men. It's kind of maddening. Some tendencies in men seem retarded to women I'm sure. That's gonna cause friction.
Then you have the resentment from men about sex. Women control the keys to the kingdom, so to speak, so there's a lot of frustration and resentment there.
All that on top of the fact that we're on a site where we all know the world is permafucked and we're arguing about what to do about it or more accurately spitting in the wind trying to pretend there's any hope for it.
Tensions run high when you all know you're on a sinking ship. Don't let it get to you.
Unrelated, will you sign my petition to repeal the 19th Amendment? =p
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 8 monthsAug 23, 2024 22:10:27 ago (+0/-0)
Smarty pants.
[ + ] 1point21jiggawatts
[ - ] 1point21jiggawatts 0 points 8 monthsAug 24, 2024 14:29:05 ago (+0/-0)
I really would though. https://files.catbox.moe/gbvsf6.png
[ + ] BulletStopper
[ - ] BulletStopper 0 points 8 monthsAug 21, 2024 13:59:44 ago (+0/-0)*
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13775657/Female-tourist-29-naked-stabbed-death-Tinder-date-paradise-island-Mauritius-tongue-cut-not-call-help.html
[ + ] Salacious_Salicylic
[ - ] Salacious_Salicylic 0 points 8 monthsAug 21, 2024 15:26:36 ago (+0/-0)
white women are some of the lowest and most hateful creatures on earth. At least a jew tries to make things better for jews by skeeving.
[ + ] feminismisculturedeath
[ - ] feminismisculturedeath 0 points 8 monthsAug 21, 2024 23:02:40 ago (+1/-1)
Are you cuckolds really taking a woman's interest and sexuality at her word? What was the first fucking lesson in the bible.
Why are you all such cuckolds? Really, why? You know better and here you are listening to a woman lie to you and possibly to herself (or really, more a lack of self awareness) and you take it as word.
Fuck all of you dumb fucking wannabe intellectual idiots. You're all just dumb fucking submissive who beat your chests when you think you can get away with it, but submit so fucking hard so fast.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 8 monthsAug 22, 2024 18:08:02 ago (+0/-0)
Im not a cuckold, Im a woman. I know what my own feelings and motives are. I have some insights in to what other women think and feel. Im trying to be as honest as I can. You may dismiss me because “women lie” but I think its a mistake. I suggest making friends with women irl because I suspect everything you know about them comes from forums like upgoat which are full of men.
[ + ] HeyJames
[ - ] HeyJames 0 points 8 monthsAug 21, 2024 23:20:01 ago (+0/-0)
Not true at all. When I was 25 I had a tryst with a 41 year old woman and she rode so hard that I had pretty much a permanent bruise on my pubic bone for the duration of our time together.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 8 monthsAug 22, 2024 13:31:30 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] HeyJames
[ - ] HeyJames 1 point 8 monthsAug 22, 2024 14:38:54 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 8 monthsAug 22, 2024 18:11:06 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] HeyJames
[ - ] HeyJames 0 points 8 monthsAug 22, 2024 18:42:07 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 8 monthsAug 22, 2024 18:50:17 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] HeyJames
[ - ] HeyJames 0 points 8 monthsAug 22, 2024 20:31:12 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Crackinjokes
[ - ] Crackinjokes [op] 0 points 8 monthsAug 22, 2024 09:07:36 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 8 monthsAug 22, 2024 09:25:06 ago (+0/-0)
For a few moments when I wake up in the morning, I feel like a perfectly normal person. Then I remember.....
I think younger women are more sympathetic to immigrants than old ones. Because young is dumb. But there is certainly no shortage of middle aged and older women advocating for shitty foreigners to join us. Like I said, women are pre-programmed to feel empathy because of our biological role as mothers. So when you flood the TV and internet with empathy inducing stories of immigrants and you censor their distructive undesireable behaviors, the most empathetic people will be the most susceptible to the propaganda.
I actually think these tendencies begin to weaken as women age (some of this behavior is clearly estrogen driven). But by then many women have formed political loyalties to democrap ideologies. Maybe older women are more visible as activists because they work their way up these libtard orgs to become decision makers? Or maybe its because older women have more confidence to speak out on or are more effective speakers, so they are given more coverage? I mean they dont just give away the anchor chair to anyone at Democracy Now!. That old bag had to pay her dues.