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The CONSTITUTION is illegal

submitted by Markshirley to USPolitics 8 monthsAug 26, 2024 16:06:55 ago (+6/-0)     (USPolitics)

By what authority did the constitution replace the articles of confederation? Lysander spooner said "this is all because of the constitution or the constitution failed to prevent it"


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[ - ] Panic 0 points 8 monthsAug 26, 2024 21:37:06 ago (+0/-0)

Constitution and Confederacy were just the opinions of lawyers and politicians, backed by a gun. America was supposed to be the land of the free. USA is not and never was about freedom. Stop pretending.

[ - ] Master_Foo 0 points 8 monthsAug 26, 2024 23:47:16 ago (+0/-0)

It's like saying
"By what authority does a book replace it's rough draft?".
"By what authority does a blueprint replace a drawing in the back of a napkin"?
In the case of the Constitution, the authority is the ratification by the states.

The Constitugion is legitimized by the fact that it was ratified by all the states that previously ratified the Articles of Confederation.

[ - ] Markshirley [op] 0 points 8 monthsAug 27, 2024 13:02:29 ago (+0/-0)

The articles required all 13 to ratify they couldn't get it and illegally changed it to 9 to ratify THEN and only after illegally ratifying did all 13 the rest ratify because they were coerced. Its illegal!

[ - ] Master_Foo 0 points 8 monthsAug 27, 2024 16:20:27 ago (+0/-0)

By that standard, the Articles of Confederation are illegal, because it doesn't meet the legal standard of the legal system before it either.

All revolutions are illegal.
Deal with it.

[ - ] Salacious_Salicylic 1 point 8 monthsAug 26, 2024 17:05:29 ago (+1/-0)

Violence. Same as every other legal authority.

[ - ] FacelessOne 2 points 8 monthsAug 26, 2024 18:37:30 ago (+2/-0)

The "Revolution" was just controlled opposition.

[ - ] Markshirley [op] 0 points 8 monthsAug 26, 2024 22:15:26 ago (+0/-0)

True. The CONSTITUTION is basically the monarchy

[ - ] Portmanure 5 points 8 monthsAug 26, 2024 17:09:27 ago (+5/-0)

The constitution was ratified by the original 13 colonies that were following the articles of confederation. They agreed to end the articles of confederation and becomes states united in a union.

[ - ] HelenHighwater 3 points 8 monthsAug 26, 2024 18:58:43 ago (+3/-0)

stop with your...historical information!

[ - ] Markshirley [op] 0 points 8 monthsAug 26, 2024 22:14:37 ago (+0/-0)

Only by coersion. Still illegal because the rules of the articles weren't followed

[ - ] Portmanure 0 points 8 monthsAug 26, 2024 23:03:54 ago (+0/-0)

Not entirely, there was recognition that the articles of confederation were inadequate to govern the growing territories and changes had to be made. Was there coersion during the process? Perhaps for some, but not all, politics works that way. However it occurred, the eventual solution to the growing inadequacies of the articles of confederation ultimately resulted in the creation and implementation of the US Constitution.

[ - ] Markshirley [op] 0 points 8 monthsAug 26, 2024 23:07:45 ago (+0/-0)

They weren't supposed to be replacing the articles yet they did and yes they illegally forced rhode island to ratify. We'd bw way better off with the articles

[ - ] Portmanure 0 points 8 monthsAug 26, 2024 23:15:10 ago (+1/-1)

I think the authors intended for the federal government that was created by the constitution was supposed to remain small with checks and balances and never envisioned the bloated monstrosity that the federal government has become today. The articles of confederation wouldn’t have allowed this but it also wouldn't be able to cope with, operate peacefully, and fairly, with the growth of the territories. It would have been chaos, it was already showing those signs with small rebellions occurring. The rules of the articles weren’t followed but they also weren’t working either so something had to change.