You know I wonder what it is about somebody's personality where first they have to live a life where they're drinking so much they're drunk all the time and they're completely out of control and then the next minute they have to go to some other weird extreme which also allows them to be the center of attention where they insist they absolutely cannot have even one drink and they brag about the fact that they haven't had even one drink for the longest time.
Where is 90% of all humanity has an occasional beer or drink just like you have an occasional pile of green beans or occasional plate of corned beef hash or something else and it doesn't become the total focus of your life.
Is it really a personal improvement when you go from one extreme of drinking to another extreme of drinking or is it really just a continuation of the same sort of behavior that got you into trouble in the first place? Maybe the answer is to stop making alcohol the focus of your life whether it's to drink it all or to absolutely not touch a drop.
Where is 90% of all humanity has an occasional beer or drink just like you have an occasional pile of green beans or occasional plate of corned beef hash or something else and it doesn't become the total focus of your life.
^ This
tlolers lack discipline. Next week, red meat is jewish because I eat it 24/7 and have coronary disease, ban the red jew now!
I’m fucked up right now so I’ll just say I love getting fucked up. Thats what’s gonna kill Me. Getting fucked up. God it’s just so good. Some people like gambling. Some people like whores. I like those things too, but drugs is what gets me jazzed up
I used to say “ I love drinking” and I really did. I fucked around a little with weed and pills, but booze was my drug. I also fucking hated it. And I hated myself.
Now I think, “I love not drinking.” Maybe you think Im full of shit or that Im retarded for saying that, but it’s really true. Sometimes I just catch myself enjoying life in a way that I just wasn’t when I drank and I think, “fuck yeah, this is way better than drinking.”
I like those things too, but drugs is what gets me jazzed up
This flip cope is the addiction talking: “Some people like strawberries. This is just me!” No. The real you is waiting to be freed. You are a drug zombie that has been parasitized. Drugs are a scam. “Highness” is a scam. Hope you get well.
Not sure if this sarcasm or what. But if sincere, good for you. I don’t think it is self-congratulatory as OP implies. I say this because I want the folks here to improve their lives. Quitting booze is low hanging fruit thats going to benefit almost everyone. I dont know why its controversial or annoying to post about.
I don't see any problem with taking pride in overcoming a life struggle. Drinking in general is a waste of time and money and makes you feel like shit even in small quantities.
I do not think it is annoying. I love a good redemption story...but only if it is about alcohol. No sex. No tranny stuff...and especially no Democrats. Okay?
I love experiencing extremes and drugs offer extremes quickly. I also blew my knee out cause even though it hurt I just kept running on it for hours. I taught myself to lucid dream cause even when im sleeping i want the most out of this existence. I just want to squeeze life for all it’s got cause it’s short and day to day bullshit is so fucking boring. Iv been sober and it’s great sometimes I’m very sober for long periods. Iv cold Turkied multiple drugs. Withdrawals all that. I don’t remember what my point is
I just want to squeeze life for all it’s got cause it’s short and day to day bullshit is so fucking boring
Lots of drug users experience anhedonia, lack of enjoyment, in their sober lives. You are making the same error I made though. I had been drinking so long that I thought the inability to enjoy life while sober was caused by something wrong with me. But it had more to do with my drinking than me. Drugs cause disregulation of your “pleasure center” (for lack of a better word. The hormones and neurotransmitters that create happy feels all get released when you are high. Later, when you are sober, you experience a deficit of those happy feels.
Life is not that boring. You have an inability to enjoy it because of the depletion of natural signallers in the brain. You have inadvertantly rasied the threshold at which your brain will produce a pleasurable response. You are numb to pleasureable sensations. How is this squeezing life for all it’s got? Its not.
You have an incorrect understanding of how the pleasure/reward system works in your brain. Pleasure does not come from the bottle/needle/pill/pipe. Pleasure comes from your brain. Psychotropic drugs are not like steroids for your pleasure center, giving you superpowers to feel joy. They do the opposite. The interfere with the production of natural endorphins. Thats why addicts are on average more miserable than non-addicts. You believe you are “fixing” your joylessness. The joylessness is actually caused by the “cure”
Ive quit several drugs, but you know when this concept really clicked with me? When I went on a diet and ate nothing but brocolli and vegetable soup and yogurt for like 6 months. You know what happened? Brocolli started to tast awesome. I had lowered my pleasure threshold because I stopped eating pizza and dessert. My brain produced the same pleasureable sensation on the all brocolli diet as it did on the pizza diet.
Booze and drugs work the same way. And so does porn and gambling addictions btw. Once the withdrawal ends, the brain resets your pleasure threshhold and sober life seems less boring or stressful.
You and I both probably have what they call mood disorders ( I hate the term ) which we were born with— a natural tendency to feel depressed or bored or anxious or whatever. I have alot of anxiety— it doesn’t really matter. We don’t like the way we feel and we want to change it. You can’t fix this problem the way you are trying to fix it. The addiction only makes it worse
We have magical false beliefs about how moods work. But they all come from the brain, and the brain is a physical machine, like a car is. You wouldn’t put the wrong fuel in your car or drive it in the wrong gear. You can’t squeeze more happy out of the happy machine by treating it like shit and running it into the ground.
I could link a bunch of sciency papers describing how this works in greater detail. But I don’t think you want to read them. Hope some of this registers.
Ill probably start drinking again, but with a lot more moderation. I just need a "reset." idk when though. I've been enjoying feeling good when I wake up and throughout the day.
I hope you don’t. When I began to understand the biological side of drinking, I realized it made no sense to continue with it. It causes a release of natural “happy” hormones and neurotransmitters which causes a shortfall of these substances for a long period after you sober up. Your sober life feels worse, more stressful. Your “joy” threshhold is raised. Which is why I thought I was unable to feel happiness with out booze.
No drinking is better to moderate drinking. If you took the oath once, it probably means you are predisposed to alcoholism in a way that OP is not. Its not about will or personality as OP implies. Its about genetics. You are not like him.
I've been enjoying feeling good when I wake up and throughout the day.
Regular alcohol consumption depletes prostaglandin E2 and endogenous opioids, the very substances that alcohol uses to flood your brain with “good feels”. It prevents their production. Do you see what a vicious catch 22 this causes? Your brain is resetting. If you start drinking again even moderately (and who are we kidding? Your inability to moderate has not gone away!) you will erase that reset to some degree.
Your average mental state will be most improved by Not. Drinking. At. All. That is the way to squeeze the most pleasure out of your brain.
And think of your poor liver for god’s sake. I promised my liver I would not abuse it again the way I had for 30 years.
BTW kikes on wall street who make billions of dollars off White alcoholics think its a great idea that you try drinking again “in moderation.” The booze version of the Sacklers. They think its a great plan. Its different than opioids though because its white culture, right?
I've been enjoying feeling good when I wake up and throughout the day.
Kiss that shit goodbye. You are not OP. He has no idea what he’s talking about. I know you. I recognize this cope. It was my cope. I don’t know how long its been since you quit. Ive been dry 3 or 4 years and I feel good and I don’t miss it. Hear that?
So just my own personal experience so take it with a grain of salt: I stopped drinking after watching my father drink himself to a slow death after retiring. It made his body so weak that he got the shot, developed turbo cancer and he died. Real quick. Had he been eating food rather than drinking wine non stop, he would still be here. Anyway i decided I didnt want to end up that way and I was already have several drinks a day, nothing crazy but it was a ritual. A very important one at that in hindsight. I decided I was going to stop and only have it “during special occasions” but I quickly noticed just how poorly it made me feel after consuming it. It would make me tired almost immediately and I felt like shit the next day, even after only having a few. Not drinking is truly the only way for me. It used to “make events more fun” but that is not the case for me anymore. I cannot deny that and I have realized that moderation is retarded and i am still poisoning myself if i have any at all. Trying moderate drinking only served to show me that there is nothing good from alcohol. That is just my experience, but I thought I’d share. I never really understood the significance of alcohol on the body and mind till I actually stopped since I had been drinking regularly since high school. 1-2 months is all you need to see how much more there is that you have been missing out on.
Yeah I agree. Hell, just after a few days of not drinking, I had one while watching a movie and felt "meh," then the next morning I felt slightly hung over. I thought that was bullshit.
Thank you for saying this. I knew a guy who was in AA. He would spend all day drinking diet coke and smoking cigarillos. He would always say he was a dry drunk.
Spicy! (You are rapidly consuming many of my upvoats lately.) I usually dont read the names when im browsing comments, ill up or down usually based on merit(there are definitely exceptions) but I find often your name attached to the ones that I want to uv. You are quite the voice of reason lately. Glad you’re back.
Let me point you to the thread where firestation call me a whore and accused me of abortion after I mildly disagreed with him. Right after he admitted to fathering a baby outside his marriage. He very much had this one coming. https://www.upgoat.net/viewpost?postid=66eaf84b800b6
Pretty sure we all know you are not a whore, and you do as well. Whores in general are not as articulate nor persistent as you are first of all.
Next thing is that no one here matters enough that you would need bother to defend yourself. Look at this place, 60 people on average that will even bother to upvote a post where someone is a week sober.
Then, someone makes 3 submissions to belittle that? And you think that person matters to anyone but themselves? Go put a sundress on and smile at guys for fucks sake.
Spread something other than misery. My grandfather used to always say that the most beautiful thing a woman will ever do is smile at someone else for no reason at all.
You could have said that to firestation when he accused me of being an abortion loving whore for no reason whatsoever.
How many times a day does someone make a post that “all huwhite wahmen R ebil, rrrrreeeeeeee” and there’s a massive MGTOW circle jerk of misery that follows? Do you tell them to put on a sundress?
The amount of hate that I get for being a female here is off the charts. What’s six years of voat given me? A red pill in jewry and a black pill in white men. I mean, I used to think you guys were really swell before this place. I wanted to fight for you. I really did. I was an idiot. Whatever was left of that gal was killed last month when I saw you all cheering and upvoting for the murder of an innocent white woman.
You guys convinced me of what no feminists could have. You think Im thin skinned? Maybe Ive just been told I need to be killed and skull fucked about 5000 times too many. Try putting on a sundress after that.
I get way more toxic sludge hurled at me than you. That is a fact. I don’t need or expect any white knighting. But don’t judge me for being too black pilled and don’t get in my way when I defend myself. Because You. Have. No. Fucking. Idea. What it’s like for me. Ok?
You are right I don't have a clue what it is like to be you, but you think talking to anyone else here to convince them they are the asshole will work?
That doesn't mean you are the asshole, it means you are far more likely to be receptive and capable of discussion. People here are all weak within their personal circumstances, and you know it.
Let's be real, do you really think any of these fucks will ever do anything impactful to you? They don't even know who you are and called you a whore? Then ask yourself why I would waste my time to even confront them on such a thing?
You know why they oppose you? Because you are a woman with an opinion. Often time valid opinion, and we can't have that now can we.
No woman shall have any idea other than what those that can show such vulgarity and use intimidation over a glorified version of 4chan. Lol fuck what these people think. Look how many have substance abuse issues.
Really you should thrive and go live your life and brag about it to show you are happy. That pisses them off the most you know? I won't call you a whore, accuse you of infantcide either.
Don't assume I ever would, and as for what these others will do...so what. Are they going to validate you equality and your obvious superiority in many instances?
I will tell you that anyone who ever attempted to harm you and I saw them force themselves on you, I would put a bullet through their skull. Wouldn't hesitate, wouldn't expect anything for it other than a fair trial as well. Some can say I am a white knight or blah blah, but chances are they have never seen what rape or the threat of rape does to a female.
I don't find that shit funny, don't ever assume I will, however empty threats made on this site are only that, saber rattling. Don't be their victim. Don't let them think they are winning, and don't attempt to gain sympathy from that shit on here.
If you fear for your safety, get a firearm and learn to use it. If there is means that I could help you in such a way I would, belive that. Stop seeing yourself as a victim of these pieces of shit.
Seriously go embrace your feminine aspects. That shit pisses them off the most, because they can't stop it sure they will say some shameful shit. We both know they will, so what.
Chances are others here will see it who know them outside of this place that will overtime begin to avoid them. Go be happy today, don't bother to validate these faggots.
Hmmm reasons. Ive worked 80 hour weeks when I was drinking but I never accidentlally fell on anyones penis.
The point is, theres lots of people around here addicted to booze or trying to stay off it. It does good for them to encourage each other. You of all people should know that booze ruins lives. Yet you are piling on with OP trying to discourage people from talking about it. Trying to shame them it seems.
You just attacked me for “spreading fear!” Because I mildly observed that legit users on this site try to harm each other. Why is this not doing something similar? I think your comment has a negative effect.
nah those things usually happen when sober.Imagine blaming alcohol for behaviour. Serious question: would you be the type to give the system your children and be a burden on those around you over a dalliance?
I don’t think so. Blame alcohol or don’t blame alcohol. Much of this bad behavior happens under its influence. You read Cunt’s post about the hubby? A perfect example. Heres another one from the other day. Lostwhale is at a Christmas party when someone “puts his penis in her mouth” . Sound sober to you?
Serious question: would you be the type to give the system your children and be a burden on those around you over a dalliance?
I can’t even give up the dog someone dumped on me. Because I know Id never forgive myself. Pets are not disposable and neither are people. I mean dalliance, its still fucking your kid right? Im not an alley cat.
I did see cunts post and I was horrified at the comments. leave, give utlimatums.. my god. I hope she stood her ground.
Lost in the thinking was not drunk enough to not remember. The act was deliberate. a concious decision was made.
its basically what all of these posts by cracking are saying. Quit making excuses. you wanted to do something you did it nothing is to blame except for your actions. Taking responsibity for your actions should be applauded.the firestation guy did. Its done. We dont know the arrangements and its no ones business. Yes he put it out there but it was jut talking and then you call her (the wife)an idiot. Someone will read those words and start thinking that keeping shit together despite hardships is idiotic.just make an excuse any excuse any fragility will do pick one you'll be excused ill excuse yours if you excuse mine. Thats the way that whole cult works. Its that cluster b society thing and its being bought into hook line and sinker. God bless the holders of the line.
I did see cunts post and I was horrified at the comments. leave, give utlimatums.. my god. I hope she stood her ground.
I don’t remember being bothered by the comments. I thought most were supportive or sympathetic. I may be misremembering. I really hope she’s okay. She’s been away from the forum for awhile. Some fucking asshole made a post which mocked her. Her response to it was her last comment as far as I know.
Lost in the thinking was not drunk enough to not remember. The act was deliberate. a concious decision was made.
I said and did shit I would never have done sober when I was drinking. Thats what drinking does. What does “conscious” mean? You are aware of the decision as you make it? People can be consciously doing things and still not remember them in the morning. Its the decision making process thats impaired. The organ that is programmed to make good decisions is not functioning properly.
You can come at this problem from a moral responsibility angle, and argue “He knew what he was doing” etc.—fine. I think that can be part of the discussion. But theres is a biological side as well. I think there’s a fear that if you acknowlege that drunken behavior is a biological problem, you will destroy accountability for people that do dumb shit when drunk. I don’t know if thats true or not but it needs to be part of the conversation. Its just the reality of alcohol consumption.
You can take any lab rat and addict them to ethanol in the lab, and watch them do all the dumb shit that humans do when they become addicted. Because its the same problem. Free will is an illusion.
People are better when they are not drinking. Drinking makes you act like a nigger. People need to understand that.
Quit making excuses.
I didn’t see people doing much of that. I saw people discussing how they ended their addictions (or were trying to). That is a physical medical problem. Being drunk is a biological condition. The damage and dysregulation of the brain that follows regular use is a biological condition. It is an incredibly insidious disease and it happens in nice people and mean people and also some very responsible people. These are all real true statements.
Taking responsibity for your actions should be applauded.the firestation guy did. Its done.
And then he attacked me for no reason whatsoever, calling me a whore and accusing me of having abortions. Had he not thrown his MGTOW screed at me and tried to vaunt his sexual morals over mine, I wouldn’t have said a thing. He is the whore in fact, not me. I have never been a whore and I never will be one.
After that (totally unprovoked) dangus-inspired all-women-are-whores-and-ride-the-cock-go-round routine he addressed to me? He’s been let off easy. My response was very measured. Surely the hypocrisy was not lost on you if you read that interaction.
then you call her (the wife)an idiot.
Did I call her a whore? Because that’s what he called me. It was an egregious (and false) ad hominem. I try to avoid using ad hominems until they are used against me. And then its on like Donkey Kong. BTW I wouldnt have five more kids with this slut. Thats just dumb.
Cluster B is admitting that you fucked around on your wife and made a baby and then calling some woman you know nothing about a whore who has abortions. Im given to understand this guy considers himself Christian? I have zero tolerance for this bullshit after all the times Ive been called a whore by the town bicycles around here. ZFG.
If you've never experienced extreme trauma, then likely you've never wanted to commit suicide...
The same goes for booze, as if booze is the only thing is this world that has provided relaxation, solace, or general peaceful moments between a constant shitshow of pain, degradation, and general I'll will against yourself, then be relieved, but for those that have booze is a step away from caring about a world that wishes to see us under.
I don't mean to romanticize it, but I figure it's be lesser form of heroin or morphine, where it.lifts the spirit to places where the physical body is no longer able to reach.
It's a dark slope, and I drank half a bottle of Maker's Mark tonight. I'm still sliding into Mordor, but at least I know where I'm going and I'm enjoying this hellscape on the way down.
The same goes for booze, as if booze is the only thing is this world that has provided relaxation, solace, or general peaceful moments between a constant shitshow of pain, degradation, and general I'll will against yourself, then be relieved, but for those that have booze is a step away from caring about a world that wishes to see us under.
Is alcohol the escape from pain, or the source of it? You are attributing pain to external stressors but the chronic alcohol use is causing depression and stress in your brain. It causes the problem that it seems to solve. Guess how I know?!
Is alcohol the escape from pain, or the source of it? You are attributing pain to external stressors but the chronic alcohol use is causing depression and stress in your brain. It causes the problem that it seems to solve. Guess how I know?!
You can explain it all you want. Its not the same as living through it and learning the truth of it first hand. I had to quit cigarettes, booze, caffeine and junk food for me to realize that the principle is the same for all these addictions. Disregulation of pleasure response in the brain.
Its not the same as living through it and learning the truth of it first hand
That's exactly right, it's an experiential understanding, not an intellectual one, and that difference is what's torqued some people here about Crackinjokes condescending attitude about quitting drinking, or anything that has a grip on a person.
Some people get a huge dopamine release form drinking, it much easier for those to become alcoholics. Stopping an addiction is not going to the other extreme, that's a low tier iq take and talking helps.
I think this is the third post of this nature that you have made, attacking people for talking about their alcoholism and trying to improve their lives.
I heard you the first time. I just don’t agree with you.
You don’t have to click on those posts. Just let it go. I dont know why this bothers you so much.
Government and corporations engineer products and services to be as addictive as possible to us—along with deception and thuggery, it is a prime strategy for parasitizing the people. If they haven’t got you with alcohol or drugs, they will get you with something else: porn, gaming, sportsball, credit, goyslop, joo movies, etc.
Almost everyone here is addicted to some sort of pleasure seeking behavior that’s a kike scam. Its not just alcohol and drugs. You are welcome to discuss whatever your addictions are and I will try to be supportive to you. Maybe I can even relate. You should try to relate to these alcoholic stories too because every human being on this earth has this sort of vulnerability. Its biological. Its how our nervous system is put together. We were not built to resist all forms of addiction.
The problem is addiction. Addiction is parasitism. Identifying and fighting parasitism is very much the business of this forum.
Where is 90% of all humanity has an occasional beer or drink just like you have an occasional pile of green beans
Wrong. Humanity drinks because alcohol is addictive. Its not like green beans which contain nutrients necessary for life. Alcohol’s only purpose is parasitism. Small amounts of alcohol cause small harm. The harm that your light alcohol consumption causes to yourself and the world economy are low relative to a heavy user but it does exist.
Alcoholism is highly heritable. There have been dozens of studies linking genes to alcohol. They breed rats and mice for alcoholic predisposition for these studies. One of the risk factors for alcoholism is light eyes and we know that melanocortin genes affect alcohol metabolism through the GABA signaling pathway. So this is very much a White issue.
Evidence that Melanocortin Receptor Agonist Melanotan-II Synergistically Augments the Ability of Naltrexone to Blunt Binge-Like Ethanol Intake in Male C57BL/6J Mice https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4515169/
Is it really a personal improvement when you go from one extreme of drinking to another extreme of drinking or is it really just a continuation of the same sort of behavior that got you into trouble in the first place? Maybe the answer is to stop making alcohol the focus of your life whether it's to drink it all or to absolutely not touch a drop.
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[ - ] CasualObserver -1 points 8 monthsSep 23, 2024 06:48:18 ago (+0/-1)
from a boomer with a reverse mortgage no less.
I'm sure this guy has great advice, goy.
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Oh no you didn’t! 🤣
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^ This
tlolers lack discipline. Next week, red meat is jewish because I eat it 24/7 and have coronary disease, ban the red jew now!
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Me. Getting fucked up. God it’s just so good. Some people like gambling. Some people like whores. I like those things too, but drugs is what gets me jazzed up
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Now I think, “I love not drinking.” Maybe you think Im full of shit or that Im retarded for saying that, but it’s really true. Sometimes I just catch myself enjoying life in a way that I just wasn’t when I drank and I think, “fuck yeah, this is way better than drinking.”
This flip cope is the addiction talking: “Some people like strawberries. This is just me!” No. The real you is waiting to be freed. You are a drug zombie that has been parasitized. Drugs are a scam. “Highness” is a scam. Hope you get well.
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I do not think it is annoying. I love a good redemption story...but only if it is about alcohol. No sex. No tranny stuff...and especially no Democrats. Okay?
Um...I hope it is obvious.
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Lots of drug users experience anhedonia, lack of enjoyment, in their sober lives. You are making the same error I made though. I had been drinking so long that I thought the inability to enjoy life while sober was caused by something wrong with me. But it had more to do with my drinking than me. Drugs cause disregulation of your “pleasure center” (for lack of a better word. The hormones and neurotransmitters that create happy feels all get released when you are high. Later, when you are sober, you experience a deficit of those happy feels.
Life is not that boring. You have an inability to enjoy it because of the depletion of natural signallers in the brain. You have inadvertantly rasied the threshold at which your brain will produce a pleasurable response. You are numb to pleasureable sensations. How is this squeezing life for all it’s got? Its not.
You have an incorrect understanding of how the pleasure/reward system works in your brain. Pleasure does not come from the bottle/needle/pill/pipe. Pleasure comes from your brain. Psychotropic drugs are not like steroids for your pleasure center, giving you superpowers to feel joy. They do the opposite. The interfere with the production of natural endorphins. Thats why addicts are on average more miserable than non-addicts. You believe you are “fixing” your joylessness. The joylessness is actually caused by the “cure”
Ive quit several drugs, but you know when this concept really clicked with me? When I went on a diet and ate nothing but brocolli and vegetable soup and yogurt for like 6 months. You know what happened? Brocolli started to tast awesome. I had lowered my pleasure threshold because I stopped eating pizza and dessert. My brain produced the same pleasureable sensation on the all brocolli diet as it did on the pizza diet.
Booze and drugs work the same way. And so does porn and gambling addictions btw. Once the withdrawal ends, the brain resets your pleasure threshhold and sober life seems less boring or stressful.
You and I both probably have what they call mood disorders ( I hate the term ) which we were born with— a natural tendency to feel depressed or bored or anxious or whatever. I have alot of anxiety— it doesn’t really matter. We don’t like the way we feel and we want to change it. You can’t fix this problem the way you are trying to fix it. The addiction only makes it worse
We have magical false beliefs about how moods work. But they all come from the brain, and the brain is a physical machine, like a car is.
You wouldn’t put the wrong fuel in your car or drive it in the wrong gear. You can’t squeeze more happy out of the happy machine by treating it like shit and running it into the ground.
I could link a bunch of sciency papers describing how this works in greater detail. But I don’t think you want to read them. Hope some of this registers.
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No drinking is better to moderate drinking. If you took the oath once, it probably means you are predisposed to alcoholism in a way that OP is not. Its not about will or personality as OP implies. Its about genetics. You are not like him.
Regular alcohol consumption depletes prostaglandin E2 and endogenous opioids, the very substances that alcohol uses to flood your brain with “good feels”. It prevents their production. Do you see what a vicious catch 22 this causes? Your brain is resetting. If you start drinking again even moderately (and who are we kidding? Your inability to moderate has not gone away!) you will erase that reset to some degree.
Your average mental state will be most improved by Not. Drinking. At. All. That is the way to squeeze the most pleasure out of your brain.
And think of your poor liver for god’s sake. I promised my liver I would not abuse it again the way I had for 30 years.
BTW kikes on wall street who make billions of dollars off White alcoholics think its a great idea that you try drinking again “in moderation.” The booze version of the Sacklers. They think its a great plan. Its different than opioids though because its white culture, right?
Kiss that shit goodbye. You are not OP. He has no idea what he’s talking about. I know you. I recognize this cope. It was my cope. I don’t know how long its been since you quit. Ive been dry 3 or 4 years and I feel good and I don’t miss it. Hear that?
[ + ] JudyStroyer
[ - ] JudyStroyer 1 point 8 monthsSep 23, 2024 09:22:46 ago (+1/-0)
I stopped drinking after watching my father drink himself to a slow death after retiring. It made his body so weak that he got the shot, developed turbo cancer and he died. Real quick. Had he been eating food rather than drinking wine non stop, he would still be here. Anyway i decided I didnt want to end up that way and I was already have several drinks a day, nothing crazy but it was a ritual. A very important one at that in hindsight. I decided I was going to stop and only have it “during special occasions” but I quickly noticed just how poorly it made me feel after consuming it. It would make me tired almost immediately and I felt like shit the next day, even after only having a few. Not drinking is truly the only way for me. It used to “make events more fun” but that is not the case for me anymore. I cannot deny that and I have realized that moderation is retarded and i am still poisoning myself if i have any at all. Trying moderate drinking only served to show me that there is nothing good from alcohol. That is just my experience, but I thought I’d share. I never really understood the significance of alcohol on the body and mind till I actually stopped since I had been drinking regularly since high school. 1-2 months is all you need to see how much more there is that you have been missing out on.
[ + ] Not_a_redfugee
[ - ] Not_a_redfugee 1 point 8 monthsSep 24, 2024 19:02:10 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] firestation7
[ - ] firestation7 2 points 8 monthsSep 23, 2024 04:33:15 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 3 points 8 monthsSep 23, 2024 08:15:01 ago (+4/-1)
[ + ] JudyStroyer
[ - ] JudyStroyer 1 point 8 monthsSep 23, 2024 09:10:02 ago (+1/-0)
(You are rapidly consuming many of my upvoats lately.) I usually dont read the names when im browsing comments, ill up or down usually based on merit(there are definitely exceptions) but I find often your name attached to the ones that I want to uv. You are quite the voice of reason lately. Glad you’re back.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 8 monthsSep 23, 2024 09:34:01 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Anotherone
[ - ] Anotherone 2 points 8 monthsSep 23, 2024 11:40:24 ago (+2/-0)
They love to dig shit up.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 8 monthsSep 23, 2024 13:36:49 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] firestation7
[ - ] firestation7 0 points 8 monthsSep 23, 2024 13:39:53 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Anotherone
[ - ] Anotherone 0 points 8 monthsSep 23, 2024 13:56:09 ago (+0/-0)
Next thing is that no one here matters enough that you would need bother to defend yourself. Look at this place, 60 people on average that will even bother to upvote a post where someone is a week sober.
Then, someone makes 3 submissions to belittle that? And you think that person matters to anyone but themselves? Go put a sundress on and smile at guys for fucks sake.
Spread something other than misery. My grandfather used to always say that the most beautiful thing a woman will ever do is smile at someone else for no reason at all.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 8 monthsSep 23, 2024 14:50:22 ago (+0/-0)
You could have said that to firestation when he accused me of being an abortion loving whore for no reason whatsoever.
How many times a day does someone make a post that “all huwhite wahmen R ebil, rrrrreeeeeeee” and there’s a massive MGTOW circle jerk of misery that follows? Do you tell them to put on a sundress?
The amount of hate that I get for being a female here is off the charts. What’s six years of voat given me? A red pill in jewry and a black pill in white men. I mean, I used to think you guys were really swell before this place. I wanted to fight for you. I really did. I was an idiot. Whatever was left of that gal was killed last month when I saw you all cheering and upvoting for the murder of an innocent white woman.
You guys convinced me of what no feminists could have. You think Im thin skinned? Maybe Ive just been told I need to be killed and skull fucked about 5000 times too many. Try putting on a sundress after that.
I get way more toxic sludge hurled at me than you. That is a fact. I don’t need or expect any white knighting. But don’t judge me for being too black pilled and don’t get in my way when I defend myself. Because You. Have. No. Fucking. Idea. What it’s like for me. Ok?
[ + ] Anotherone
[ - ] Anotherone 0 points 8 monthsSep 23, 2024 16:54:59 ago (+0/-0)
That doesn't mean you are the asshole, it means you are far more likely to be receptive and capable of discussion. People here are all weak within their personal circumstances, and you know it.
Let's be real, do you really think any of these fucks will ever do anything impactful to you? They don't even know who you are and called you a whore? Then ask yourself why I would waste my time to even confront them on such a thing?
You know why they oppose you? Because you are a woman with an opinion. Often time valid opinion, and we can't have that now can we.
No woman shall have any idea other than what those that can show such vulgarity and use intimidation over a glorified version of 4chan. Lol fuck what these people think. Look how many have substance abuse issues.
Really you should thrive and go live your life and brag about it to show you are happy. That pisses them off the most you know? I won't call you a whore, accuse you of infantcide either.
Don't assume I ever would, and as for what these others will do...so what. Are they going to validate you equality and your obvious superiority in many instances?
I will tell you that anyone who ever attempted to harm you and I saw them force themselves on you, I would put a bullet through their skull. Wouldn't hesitate, wouldn't expect anything for it other than a fair trial as well. Some can say I am a white knight or blah blah, but chances are they have never seen what rape or the threat of rape does to a female.
I don't find that shit funny, don't ever assume I will, however empty threats made on this site are only that, saber rattling. Don't be their victim. Don't let them think they are winning, and don't attempt to gain sympathy from that shit on here.
If you fear for your safety, get a firearm and learn to use it. If there is means that I could help you in such a way I would, belive that. Stop seeing yourself as a victim of these pieces of shit.
Seriously go embrace your feminine aspects. That shit pisses them off the most, because they can't stop it sure they will say some shameful shit. We both know they will, so what.
Chances are others here will see it who know them outside of this place that will overtime begin to avoid them. Go be happy today, don't bother to validate these faggots.
[ + ] jfroybees
[ - ] jfroybees 0 points 8 monthsSep 23, 2024 14:05:45 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] firestation7
[ - ] firestation7 0 points 8 monthsSep 23, 2024 11:46:42 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 8 monthsSep 23, 2024 14:00:37 ago (+1/-0)
The point is, theres lots of people around here addicted to booze or trying to stay off it. It does good for them to encourage each other. You of all people should know that booze ruins lives. Yet you are piling on with OP trying to discourage people from talking about it. Trying to shame them it seems.
You just attacked me for “spreading fear!” Because I mildly observed that legit users on this site try to harm each other. Why is this not doing something similar? I think your comment has a negative effect.
[ + ] Gowithit
[ - ] Gowithit -1 points 8 monthsSep 23, 2024 09:11:20 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 8 monthsSep 23, 2024 09:48:19 ago (+0/-0)
https://www.upgoat.net/viewpost?postid=66ef4e7bbbdde&commentid=66ef8bbc6b0ee
I can’t even give up the dog someone dumped on me. Because I know Id never forgive myself. Pets are not disposable and neither are people. I mean dalliance, its still fucking your kid right? Im not an alley cat.
[ + ] Gowithit
[ - ] Gowithit 1 point 8 monthsSep 23, 2024 10:13:23 ago (+1/-0)*
alleycat.me neither!
https://www.upgoat.net/viewpost?postid=62d97487e5b1a
I did see cunts post and I was horrified at the comments. leave, give utlimatums.. my god. I hope she stood her ground.
Lost in the thinking was not drunk enough to not remember. The act was deliberate. a concious decision was made.
its basically what all of these posts by cracking are saying. Quit making excuses. you wanted to do something you did it nothing is to blame except for your actions. Taking responsibity for your actions should be applauded.the firestation guy did. Its done. We dont know the arrangements and its no ones business. Yes he put it out there but it was jut talking and then you call her (the wife)an idiot. Someone will read those words and start thinking that keeping shit together despite hardships is idiotic.just make an excuse any excuse any fragility will do pick one you'll be excused ill excuse yours if you excuse mine. Thats the way that whole cult works. Its that cluster b society thing and its being bought into hook line and sinker. God bless the holders of the line.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ww-nHDWJnb4
cluster b society
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 8 monthsSep 23, 2024 11:24:41 ago (+0/-0)
I don’t remember being bothered by the comments. I thought most were supportive or sympathetic. I may be misremembering. I really hope she’s okay. She’s been away from the forum for awhile. Some fucking asshole made a post which mocked her. Her response to it was her last comment as far as I know.
I said and did shit I would never have done sober when I was drinking. Thats what drinking does. What does “conscious” mean? You are aware of the decision as you make it? People can be consciously doing things and still not remember them in the morning. Its the decision making process thats impaired. The organ that is programmed to make good decisions is not functioning properly.
You can come at this problem from a moral responsibility angle, and argue “He knew what he was doing” etc.—fine. I think that can be part of the discussion. But theres is a biological side as well. I think there’s a fear that if you acknowlege that drunken behavior is a biological problem, you will destroy accountability for people that do dumb shit when drunk. I don’t know if thats true or not but it needs to be part of the conversation. Its just the reality of alcohol consumption.
You can take any lab rat and addict them to ethanol in the lab, and watch them do all the dumb shit that humans do when they become addicted. Because its the same problem. Free will is an illusion.
People are better when they are not drinking. Drinking makes you act like a nigger. People need to understand that.
I didn’t see people doing much of that. I saw people discussing how they ended their addictions (or were trying to). That is a physical medical problem. Being drunk is a biological condition. The damage and dysregulation of the brain that follows regular use is a biological condition. It is an incredibly insidious disease and it happens in nice people and mean people and also some very responsible people. These are all real true statements.
And then he attacked me for no reason whatsoever, calling me a whore and accusing me of having abortions. Had he not thrown his MGTOW screed at me and tried to vaunt his sexual morals over mine, I wouldn’t have said a thing. He is the whore in fact, not me. I have never been a whore and I never will be one.
After that (totally unprovoked) dangus-inspired all-women-are-whores-and-ride-the-cock-go-round routine he addressed to me? He’s been let off easy. My response was very measured. Surely the hypocrisy was not lost on you if you read that interaction.
Did I call her a whore? Because that’s what he called me. It was an egregious (and false) ad hominem. I try to avoid using ad hominems until they are used against me. And then its on like Donkey Kong. BTW I wouldnt have five more kids with this slut. Thats just dumb.
Cluster B is admitting that you fucked around on your wife and made a baby and then calling some woman you know nothing about a whore who has abortions. Im given to understand this guy considers himself Christian? I have zero tolerance for this bullshit after all the times Ive been called a whore by the town bicycles around here. ZFG.
[ + ] Fishsticksforever
[ - ] Fishsticksforever 2 points 8 monthsSep 23, 2024 03:38:31 ago (+3/-1)
The same goes for booze, as if booze is the only thing is this world that has provided relaxation, solace, or general peaceful moments between a constant shitshow of pain, degradation, and general I'll will against yourself, then be relieved, but for those that have booze is a step away from caring about a world that wishes to see us under.
I don't mean to romanticize it, but I figure it's be lesser form of heroin or morphine, where it.lifts the spirit to places where the physical body is no longer able to reach.
It's a dark slope, and I drank half a bottle of Maker's Mark tonight. I'm still sliding into Mordor, but at least I know where I'm going and I'm enjoying this hellscape on the way down.
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 8 monthsSep 23, 2024 11:54:19 ago (+0/-0)
Is alcohol the escape from pain, or the source of it? You are attributing pain to external stressors but the chronic alcohol use is causing depression and stress in your brain. It causes the problem that it seems to solve. Guess how I know?!
[ + ] Lost_In_The_Thinking
[ - ] Lost_In_The_Thinking 1 point 8 monthsSep 23, 2024 13:42:14 ago (+1/-0)
Yeah, that sounds familiar.
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 8 monthsSep 23, 2024 15:37:05 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Lost_In_The_Thinking
[ - ] Lost_In_The_Thinking 1 point 8 monthsSep 23, 2024 19:35:49 ago (+1/-0)
That's exactly right, it's an experiential understanding, not an intellectual one, and that difference is what's torqued some people here about Crackinjokes condescending attitude about quitting drinking, or anything that has a grip on a person.
[ + ] olinneserpona
[ - ] olinneserpona 4 points 8 monthsSep 23, 2024 11:11:20 ago (+4/-0)
You're dumb.
[ + ] Deleted
[ - ] deleted 0 points 8 monthsSep 24, 2024 00:08:47 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 6 points 8 monthsSep 23, 2024 07:36:27 ago (+8/-2)
I heard you the first time. I just don’t agree with you.
You don’t have to click on those posts. Just let it go. I dont know why this bothers you so much.
Government and corporations engineer products and services to be as addictive as possible to us—along with deception and thuggery, it is a prime strategy for parasitizing the people. If they haven’t got you with alcohol or drugs, they will get you with something else: porn, gaming, sportsball, credit, goyslop, joo movies, etc.
Almost everyone here is addicted to some sort of pleasure seeking behavior that’s a kike scam. Its not just alcohol and drugs. You are welcome to discuss whatever your addictions are and I will try to be supportive to you. Maybe I can even relate. You should try to relate to these alcoholic stories too because every human being on this earth has this sort of vulnerability. Its biological. Its how our nervous system is put together. We were not built to resist all forms of addiction.
The problem is addiction. Addiction is parasitism. Identifying and fighting parasitism is very much the business of this forum.
Wrong. Humanity drinks because alcohol is addictive. Its not like green beans which contain nutrients necessary for life. Alcohol’s only purpose is parasitism. Small amounts of alcohol cause small harm. The harm that your light alcohol consumption causes to yourself and the world economy are low relative to a heavy user but it does exist.
Alcoholism is highly heritable. There have been dozens of studies linking genes to alcohol. They breed rats and mice for alcoholic predisposition for these studies. One of the risk factors for alcoholism is light eyes and we know that melanocortin genes affect alcohol metabolism through the GABA signaling pathway. So this is very much a White issue.
More than Meets the Eye: Eye Color and Alcoholism
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6139948/
Evidence that Melanocortin Receptor Agonist Melanotan-II Synergistically Augments the Ability of Naltrexone to Blunt Binge-Like Ethanol Intake in Male C57BL/6J Mice https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4515169/
[ + ] Gowithit
[ - ] Gowithit 2 points 8 monthsSep 23, 2024 09:24:29 ago (+3/-1)
[ + ] PostWallHelena
[ - ] PostWallHelena 1 point 8 monthsSep 23, 2024 10:20:00 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] firestation7
[ - ] firestation7 -2 points 8 monthsSep 23, 2024 13:33:47 ago (+0/-2)
[ + ] Deleted
[ - ] deleted 0 points 8 monthsSep 23, 2024 10:47:40 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] bobdole9
[ - ] bobdole9 7 points 8 monthsSep 23, 2024 07:08:17 ago (+7/-0)
Moderation: give it a shot!
[ + ] PeckerwoodPerry
[ - ] PeckerwoodPerry 3 points 8 monthsSep 23, 2024 09:37:46 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey
[ - ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey 14 points 8 monthsSep 23, 2024 03:12:42 ago (+14/-0)