Amazon closed out 2024 with more than 20,000 electric delivery vans manufactured by Rivian in its fleet nationwide. The e-commerce giant highlights on its website that the electric vans are part of its "urgent" climate change initiative to "remove carbon emissions from transportation systems."
However, Amazon faces mounting criticism for gaslighting the public about its net zero goals and actual operational fleet practices.
Take, for instance, Amazon's website. Within the Sustainability section, the company laid out its approach to fight so-called global warming:
"To reach this target, we're also expanding the use of zero-emission transportation such as electric delivery vans, cargo e-bikes, and on-foot deliveries, and we engage in industry initiatives to remove carbon emissions from transportation systems like ocean shipping, aviation, and trucking. We're also using innovative construction techniques and building materials to make our fulfillment centers, data centers, offices, and physical retail locations more sustainable.
While the company promotes its electric delivery vans as part of its effort to save the planet from a fiery demise—an end-of-world scenario Al Gore has inaccurately predicted for decades—it appears that, at least in one location, Amazon is reportedly relying on a massive diesel generator to charge a fleet of Rivian vans.
https://www.tiktok.com/@drewgoo/video/7459527931929349418?lang=en"So I understand green energy, electric vehicles - Amazon is doing their part. Stay green. But doesn't it defeat the purpose when you have a diesel-powered generator electrifying all of the EVs? It makes no sense," the TikTok user said in the video
[ + ] autotic
[ - ] autotic 5 points 3 monthsJan 15, 2025 15:30:33 ago (+5/-0)
Now, does carrying all of that battery weight out on deliveries offset the benefits of centralized gen? I don't know. But it's also a different question.
[ + ] KangzNSheeit
[ - ] KangzNSheeit 1 point 3 monthsJan 15, 2025 20:00:57 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] NoRefunds
[ - ] NoRefunds 0 points 3 monthsJan 16, 2025 00:17:07 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] HeyJames
[ - ] HeyJames 0 points 3 monthsJan 16, 2025 02:54:36 ago (+0/-0)
RPM once at operating temp and loaded unless something is mechanically wrong. With load changes, the AFR controller of the driver (diesel engine) may need to make adjustments here and there and HZ output may temporarily fluctuate but there are design considerations as well to control and limit this from affecting output.
If Amazon had actual smart people working there and wanted some good marketing, they could deploy landfill gensets that run off waste gas and feed those back into the grid so they could truly claim their use of line power is not only net zero but actually reducing emissions by providing a cleaner burn to these organic gasses.
[ + ] Deplorablepoetry
[ - ] Deplorablepoetry 0 points 3 monthsJan 16, 2025 05:57:53 ago (+0/-0)
Also, if they were not running diesel to get the juice it would be coming from a plant far far away. Just the amount of power lost in transmission lines could run a dozen trucks for a day or more.
EV is a cult today.
The future will be awesome and clean and powerful….., today it is just a dream, a scam, a grift and a cult.
[ + ] VitaminSieg
[ - ] VitaminSieg 2 points 3 monthsJan 15, 2025 16:25:47 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] RobertJHarsh
[ - ] RobertJHarsh 2 points 3 monthsJan 15, 2025 18:57:53 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] xmasskull
[ - ] xmasskull 0 points 3 monthsJan 15, 2025 21:41:59 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Prairie
[ - ] Prairie 2 points 3 monthsJan 16, 2025 01:53:12 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Deplorablepoetry
[ - ] Deplorablepoetry 1 point 3 monthsJan 16, 2025 05:51:32 ago (+1/-0)
subsidies are a major driver behind the EV cult.
Soon both the US and Canada will be dumping subsidies as their new ‘conservative’ governments announce very different mandates from existing.
[ + ] lord_nougat
[ - ] lord_nougat 1 point 3 monthsJan 15, 2025 18:24:42 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Nosferatjew
[ - ] Nosferatjew 0 points 3 monthsJan 15, 2025 15:04:56 ago (+0/-0)