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What gives crypto value?

submitted by BeholdTheLight to AskUpgoat 3 monthsFeb 1, 2025 16:20:08 ago (+4/-0)     (AskUpgoat)

Why the price differentation? I can sort of understand why stocks gain/lose value, but what binds the value of those magical bits? Why does BTC have such a strong value when XRP does not? Why does SOL have a fraction of ETH if ETH is uses less? None of it makes any sense


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[ - ] beece 2 points 3 monthsFeb 1, 2025 19:39:57 ago (+2/-0)


Some tulips are better than others.

[ - ] Indoctrinated_USA 2 points 3 monthsFeb 1, 2025 18:44:59 ago (+2/-0)

Nothing.

[ - ] HonkyMcNiggerSpic 2 points 3 monthsFeb 1, 2025 18:30:14 ago (+2/-0)

jew magic, much like diamond prices

[ - ] Niggly_Puff 2 points 3 monthsFeb 1, 2025 16:35:29 ago (+2/-0)

Utility and supply/demand gives crypto value. The market determines that value.

[ - ] Tallest_Skil 2 points 3 monthsFeb 1, 2025 16:23:31 ago (+2/-0)

Jews say it has value. Therefore it does.

[ - ] pickingrinninspittin 1 point 3 monthsFeb 1, 2025 19:12:08 ago (+1/-0)

Think of bitcoin as the purest form of investment. Each bitcoin has no value except what the market assigns.

There is nothing 'behind' a bitcoin. If a company collapses then at least there are physical assets and maybe some IP that can be sold, recouping some value for the shareholders.

This is not the case for a bitcoin.

A bitcoin's sole features are: 1. there are relatively few of them, and 2. there is a demand for them. That's it. If the demand stops then all of the value goes away. Every penny.

This is why every promoter of a bitcoin reminds you of a snake oil salesman. Their product only has value if they can convince you that it has a value. People who buy bitcoin are suckers, each and every one. But if you can get out before the market decides it doesn't want bitcoins any more then you could become very wealthy.

In short it comes down to stupidity and luck.

[ - ] NoRefunds 1 point 3 monthsFeb 1, 2025 20:54:01 ago (+1/-0)

This is what you say when you don't understand how pyramid/ponzi schemes work

[ - ] glooper 1 point 3 monthsFeb 1, 2025 18:02:00 ago (+1/-0)*

nothing...

Right now it's the "Beeny Babies" People say it has value, so it has value. Different whitepapers will convince certain folks, that a certain chain has some sort of real world utility, so those chains trade higher.

But.

As a transaction medium. It takes about seven times the energy and infrastructure, to validate the transaction, then the transaction is worth. This is a big problem, folks like to overlook. It can never be used as a transactional method, because of this. The actual operations cost of doing business, is just to high.


Frankly Crypto has gotten as far as it has, because about 1/3-1/2 of all cryto has been mined with stolen energy, so the value ROI is a bit slewed (all those early years with those Burmese mining farms and all)


So that means it's a store of wealth...
Nope. Its WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY to volital. 122k today, 81K next week and back again. No way institutional value can be stored with these deltas. So now it has to be regulated to store value. Which makes it no better then any F500 mutual fund.


Also, Q computers have reportedly already hacked the chains. Chinese Q computers are already WAY faster then the wests, so ther e is that.


And too add: In the SWIFT system, Still today, you will or run a huge risk of being debanked, if you bumble-fuck a crypto transaction.

[ - ] ModernGuilt 1 point 3 monthsFeb 1, 2025 17:39:30 ago (+1/-0)

The grip of the guy next to you in the circle jerk

[ - ] MaryXmas 0 points 3 monthsFeb 1, 2025 18:03:16 ago (+0/-0)

Difference is- the dollar is taxed by inflation. There will only be so many coins mined so supply will eventually be very low or zero. Some newer coins might not do this, it really depends on the coin.

[ - ] big_fat_dangus 0 points 3 monthsFeb 1, 2025 17:58:24 ago (+1/-1)

[ - ] pickingrinninspittin 0 points 3 monthsFeb 1, 2025 18:49:53 ago (+0/-0)

Those factors provide scarcity which drives demand. If you could make all of the bitcoin you wanted then the demand for a new bitcoin would be zero and therefore so would the price.

[ - ] big_fat_dangus -1 points 3 monthsFeb 1, 2025 19:09:14 ago (+0/-1)

Yeah no shit buddy.

[ - ] pickingrinninspittin 1 point 3 monthsFeb 1, 2025 19:16:36 ago (+1/-0)

You miss my point. Time, electricity, and processing power are not what gives bitcoins their value. Those are just mechanisms to make bitcoin scarce.

[ - ] big_fat_dangus -1 points 3 monthsFeb 1, 2025 19:32:58 ago (+0/-1)

Which in turn gives it value.

[ - ] Master_B 0 points 3 monthsFeb 2, 2025 00:27:36 ago (+0/-0)

This and all transactions are more or less stored in the network (all participants). So it's an infrastructure for contracts, immutable data storage, verification method.

[ - ] FuckShitJesus 0 points 3 monthsFeb 1, 2025 17:20:28 ago (+0/-0)

You are not going to get real answers on this subject from the retards who hang out here. Half of them are "muh mark of the beast!" levels of religious and stupid, and the other half are too technically incompetent to use crypto so they advocate against it because they missed the boat.

[ - ] beece 1 point 3 monthsFeb 1, 2025 19:41:30 ago (+1/-0)

The latter would be me. But if it works for you, go for it. How else could you transfer money anywhere in the world so easily? That's IT.

[ - ] FuckShitJesus 0 points 3 monthsFeb 2, 2025 11:02:38 ago (+0/-0)

Yes. Exactly.

No SD cards. No briefcases full of cash. No briefcases full of gold. No briefcases full of bonds.

You just cross any border on the planet with 12 words memorized, and endless capability to move money wherever you want.

This is what most of the retards don't get.

[ - ] VitaminSieg 1 point 3 monthsFeb 1, 2025 22:39:56 ago (+1/-0)

Whoa whoa whoa why can't I be both?