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Jesus Was Not A Jew

submitted by Flanders to whatever 1 monthMar 16, 2025 16:25:51 ago (+36/-9)     (whatever)


"Jesus was born in Bethlehem, spent his childhood in Egypt, and during his adolescent years relocated and settled in Galilee where he lived most of his adult years, until the start of His ministry at the age of thirty.

“The crowds answered, ‘This is Jesus, the prophet from Nazareth in Galilee.'” Matthew 21:11

All in all, He was foremost the Son of God, but in the flesh He was a Hebrew from the tribe of Judah: hence a Judahite or Judean, not a Jew.

“…behold, the Lion that is from the tribe of Judah, the Root of David…” Revelation 5:5

WHO IS A JEW?

The word “Jew” did not come into existence until the year 1775. Its modern connotation points to someone who follows and adheres to a faith similar to that of the Pharisees of Judah, but is not of the tribe and stock of Judah. In other words, Jews are people from nations other than the 12 Hebrew tribes who practice a religion known as Judaism/Pharisaism, the doctrine of the Pharisees.

It is much like those who believe in Christ and are called Christians, in honor of the One whom they follow, and their religion is known as Christianity, the doctrine of Christ. If one were to say that all Christians are Judahites because Christ was of the tribe of Judah, it would be a fallacy. In much the same way, Jews are not Judahites.

In fact, the religion that is known as Judaism is actually Pharisaism. Judaism – as it pertains to Pharisaism – is a misnomer since it is neither the doctrine of Judah nor the doctrine that Christ practiced, hence not an Abrahamic faith.

It is the pagan doctrine of the Pharisees of old, an evil creed they brought back from their Babylonian captivity. It does not follow the truth of the Bible, neither of the Old Testament nor of the New. Its central tenets are found in a book called the Talmud (the real Satanic Verses), a book full of worldly traditions, lies, and superstitions.

“The Babylonian Talmud is based on the mystical religious practices of the Babylonians which were assimilated by the Judahite Rabbis during their Babylonian captivity around 600 B.C.,” wrote Edward Hendrie in Solving the Mystery of Babylon the Great. “The Rabbis then used these occult traditions in place of the word of God.”

And that is why Jesus was constantly rebuking the Pharisees:

“You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.” John 8:44

“You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions.” Mark 7:8

“For you have taken away the key to knowledge.” Luke 11:52

“You serpents, you brood of vipers, how will you escape the sentence of hell?” Matthew 23:33

WHAT IS THE WORD IN THE NON-TRANSLATED BIBLE?" [Contrinues]:

https://biblicisminstitute.wordpress.com/2014/07/27/jesus-was-not-a-jew/





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[ - ] goatfugee12 5 points 1 monthMar 16, 2025 17:27:34 ago (+7/-2)

COPE

[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 4 points 1 monthMar 16, 2025 18:25:55 ago (+6/-2)

You're playing language games to deny what he stood for.

The torah states that the jews are to conquer nations through debt slavery (deuter 15:6). The stories of Joseph in Genesis and the book of Esther also involve jews subverting nations so their people can "feed off the fat of the land". Jacob vs Esau determined that the jews would rule through trickery rather than force. King David murdered hundreds of people to steal their foreskins. The people of Judea and Israel were known across the ancient world for many of the same horrible things we say about them today.

"The Jews belong to a dark and repulsive force. One knows how numerous this clique is, how they stick together and what power they exercise through their unions. They are a nation of rascals and deceivers." - Cicero, speaking of the Judeans before Jesus was born

Today's jews do exactly as the torah commands, taking over nations through trickery and debt slavery and cutting off the tips of babies' dicks. They genocide any nation that dares to resist their rule, as they did to Egypt and Canaan. They celebrate genocide in synagogue every week and committed the biggest genocides of the 20th century as they're genociding Palestinians and dragging the Slavs into a brother war. They created christianity, islam, and communism to control 6 billion out of the 8 billion people on Earth.

They are fighting a spiritual war to conquer the world, and billions of people are helping them.

[ - ] rzr97 5 points 1 monthMar 16, 2025 22:46:48 ago (+7/-2)

Bunch of bs BUT it sounds good AND divides like the kike you are.

Jews don't believe in heaven. Christians do. Entirely different religions.

It's been proven here how the Rothschilds subverted modern Christianity to do their bidding. No need to do that if it was already subverted.

The Israelites of the bible were not the jews. Period. End of discussion. Henry Ford showed us this.

In short, anyone pushing this Chrisitanity is a jewish religion is just a kike here trying to divide and conquer.

The reality is Christians are rapidly learning that the jews are not the Isrealites BUT they haven't yet kicked out their leaders that are paid off by jews.

https://files.catbox.moe/dhhsbu.mp4

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 1 monthMar 17, 2025 13:12:05 ago (+0/-0)

Jews don't believe in heaven. Christians do. Entirely different religions.

Many jews do believe in heaven and hell. Especially the orthodox. Its reform jews that dont believe in that stuff.

[ - ] rzr97 1 point 1 monthMar 17, 2025 14:45:27 ago (+1/-0)

Jews do not believe in heaven. Sorry. You're misinformed. They don't believe you go to heaven after you die. That is a core part of their religion.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 1 monthMar 17, 2025 15:48:01 ago (+0/-0)

No you are misinformed. Jews had adopted the belief of heaven (olam ha-ba) and hell (gehinnom/sheol) by the time jesus lived. Jesus talks about his father in heaven all the time. This was not a radical concept for his fellow jewish disciples. But the concept did not come from the jewish/israelite tradition.

Some jews like the litvaks and the reform jews reject the idea of heaven and hell because its not described in the torah (though some could argue Sheol is hell). (Litvaks have a totally different philosophy than Hassidics) But hassidic groups do believe in heaven and hell, especially chabad/lubavitch group.

https://api.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/170313/jewish/Heaven-Hell.htm

https://old.reddit.com/r/exjew/comments/14he2jh/im_having_trouble_dealing_with_the_reality_that/.

https://www.sefaria.org/Mishneh_Torah%2C_Repentance.3.6?lang=en&with=all&lang2=en (Rambam discusses the world to come and damnation of the wicked, IN THE TALMUD)

I learned alot about judaism by lurking on that ex-jew reddit sub, which is frequented by mostly ex-orthodox jews. It seems that a lot of reform/secular jews don’t even know what the orthodox believe on this subject either. Most orthodox believe in heaven and hell. The children are constantly threatened with hell if they go “off the derech ” (path/way of god) . All jews don’t believe the same thing. They are as varied as christians.

[ - ] rzr97 1 point 1 monthMar 17, 2025 23:56:47 ago (+1/-0)*

Once AGAIN jews DO NOT BELIEVE IN HEAVEN. You can rant all you like but you're wrong. Jews don't believe they go anywhere when they die.

IT IS NOT THE SAME RELIGION or even remotely akin to Christianity.

I'm sure you have some that go against the grain but NO, the vast majority do not believe in an afterlife. Sorry.


The majority of Jewish thought does not emphasize the idea of the soul going to heaven in the same way Christianity does. While Judaism has concepts of an afterlife (Olam HaBa, Gan Eden, etc.), the focus is much more on the present life, fulfilling mitzvot (commandments), and ethical living.

Many Jewish traditions suggest that the soul continues in some way after death, but the details are often left vague and open to interpretation. Some Jewish perspectives lean toward reincarnation (gilgul neshamot in Kabbalah), while others describe a temporary purification process (Gehinnom) before reaching a more peaceful state.

Overall, mainstream Jewish belief does not revolve around the idea of an eternal "heaven" where souls dwell with God in the same way Christianity describes it. Instead, the focus remains on fulfilling one’s purpose in the present world.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 1 monthMar 18, 2025 01:33:51 ago (+0/-0)

Did you look at my links? They prove that jews believe in heaven and hell. Theres a quote there from literally Rambam in the Talmud talking about an afterlife and damnation. All Hassidics believe in heaven and hell. Thats not a few going against the grain. Thats the majority of devout jews. And many hebrews of Jesus’ period must have too, as demonstrated by THE LORD’S PRAYER.

IT IS NOT THE SAME RELIGION or even remotely akin to Christianity.

When the fuck did I argue that? That is totally irrelevent.

the focus is much more on the present life, fulfilling mitzvot (commandments), and ethical living.

If you don’t follow the mitzvot you will go to hell. Thats what the Hassidics teach.

Now you can equivocate all you want about how it somehow doesn’t count because jews don’t focus on heaven as much or they don’t feel about it the same way as Christians do— all that is irrelevent. Theres a heaven and a hell that a large proportion of jews believe in and have believed in since BC times.

I suggest you read what wikipedia has to say about the concept of heaven in second temple judaism and rabbinic judaism. The pharissees believed in eternal life in heaven.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven

Heres yet another orhtodox jew talking about how he was terrorized by the teaching about hell in his yeshiva studies https://old.reddit.com/r/exjew/comments/1i5zg8s/écrasez_linfâme/

When are you going to admit that alot of jews believe in heaven and hell and theres a long tradition of its belief in Judaism going back to a time before jesus?

[ - ] rzr97 1 point 1 monthMar 18, 2025 02:14:11 ago (+1/-0)

I'm NOT looking at your links as they are retarded and DO NOT REFERENCE what you think. I AM TELLING YOU THE GOD DAMN TRUTH BITCH. That is coming from any LLM you want to look at. DIRECTLY.

JEWS DO NOT BELIEVE IN HEAVEN. FUCKING PERIOD END OF GOD DAMN STORY. Get it through your god damn skull.

There IS NOT JUDEO CHRISTIANITY. It's not even fucking related.

Go ask any LLM to summarize that shit for you. Random links are fucking meaningless nowadays and prove nothing.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 1 monthMar 18, 2025 09:40:41 ago (+0/-0)

I'm NOT looking at your links as they are retarded and DO NOT REFERENCE what you think.

How would you know if you wont look at them . You are an ass at debate. Feel free to change your mind an see how you were proven wrong.

That is coming from any LLM you want to look at. DIRECTLY.

Well the LLM doesn’t take precedence in judaism. The sages of the earlier eras do. That is what jewish belief is based on.

JEWS DO NOT BELIEVE IN HEAVEN. FUCKING PERIOD END OF GOD DAMN STORY. Get it through your god damn skull.

Yeah. They do. Youre wrong.

There IS NOT JUDEO CHRISTIANITY. It's not even fucking related.

Why do you keep talking about this? This is part of your argument with NaturalSelectionist or somebody. I never argued that.

Random links are fucking meaningless nowadays and prove nothing.

They prove widespread beliefs, foundational belief among mainline jewish sects. Not some flakey of-the-reservation jewish hippies. The LLM does not trump the Talmud in judaism, sorry. 🤪

ALSO WHO THE FUCK IS TALKING ABOUT HELL? I said heaven. JEWS DO NOT BELIEVE IN HEAVEN. THEY DO NOT BELIEVE IN AN AFTERLIFE

Well hell is relevant in a discussion of afterlife. A large number of jews believe in both heaven and hell, justs as christians do. And major sects always have since the hellenistic and persian eras. When you want to verify that, look at the wikipedia article.

The LLM doesn’t define reality. Reality defines reality. You can’t claim something isn’t real because its not legitimize in some text.

It is a fundamentally different religion than Christianity.

Total mystery why you keep bringing this up. Are you confused about who you are talking too? Never triied to argue Judaism and Christianity were the same.

[ - ] rzr97 1 point 1 monthMar 18, 2025 12:45:37 ago (+1/-0)*

This isn't a debate whore. This is truth versus retardation.

Ok, think what you like. You might want to go find out what an llm even is. Dumb bitch.

You can't cherry pick links trying to MAKE something right. What you're doing here is like saying oxygen isn't part of water and then providing retarded links. It's a known fact.

Think what you like. Meanwhile no jew is thinking they are going to heaven after death.

There's no need to even respond to me any more. I don't even read past your first sentence.

[ - ] rzr97 1 point 1 monthMar 18, 2025 02:16:41 ago (+1/-0)

ALSO WHO THE FUCK IS TALKING ABOUT HELL? I said heaven. JEWS DO NOT BELIEVE IN HEAVEN. THEY DO NOT BELIEVE IN AN AFTERLIFE. It is a fundamentally different religion than Christianity.

Go fucking ask them about going to heaven. Now shut the fuck up.

[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker -1 points 1 monthMar 16, 2025 22:58:38 ago (+1/-2)

Nah. It's not a coincidence that the same people who run both the Democrat and Republican parties, who run both the capitalist central banks and communist central planning committees, also created the two biggest religions on earth. I know it sucks to have to admit our ancestors were forcibly converted to jew worship, but the jews have taken over every other area of life too.

Explore spirituality outside jew books. Meditate, learn to do energy work, read Evola, figure shit out without jews limiting you to praying to the king of the jews.

While you're at it, get deprogrammed. https://odysee.com/@TheNaturalOrder:5/originofchristianity:c

[ - ] rzr97 2 points 1 monthMar 17, 2025 10:05:04 ago (+2/-0)

Nahh, its your own cope. It's how you want to feel special here. Moreover it's YOUR own programming. Christians have been the ONLY group to ever round up jews and forcibly remove them. They did it in WWII Germany and many times in the past. Deus Vult!

I know it sucks to be raised by jewish evolutionists and to have wasted all that time railing against it but hey...here you are.

Don't worry though, you're not the first person to finally realize jews take over everything without someone saying NO. Hell they even took over your local public utilities. They got you thinking water itself is jewish like some moron because of it.

[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 0 points 1 monthMar 17, 2025 11:39:13 ago (+0/-0)

Christians have been the ONLY group to ever round up jews and forcibly remove them.

Ha! The first expulsions happened in Pagan nations before christianity even existed, while christians gave jews control of the banks for 1000+ years. Hitler rejected most of the bible and was christian in name only. Himmler and many other Nazis were openly Pagan, far more Pagans leading Germany than leading any country on the allies side, and Hitler allied the Pagan Shinto Japanese.

Your holy book is entirely written by jews which is why most of it takes place in the middle east and none of it takes place in northern Europe.

[ - ] rzr97 1 point 1 monthMar 17, 2025 14:47:27 ago (+2/-1)

Nahh, this is just you trying to rewrite things because you were brainwashed as a child to hate Christianity. It's pathetic.

Pagans haven't done shit but sit around and cry about Christianity.

Hitler was a Christian. He says so in Mein Kampf. You dumb motherfuckers just make shit up to try to suit your needs.

You're a fucking dumb ass kike. Admit it. You're fooling no one.

[ - ] rzr97 0 points 1 monthMar 17, 2025 14:48:03 ago (+1/-1)

Don't forget, water is jewish. Dumb fuck.

[ - ] PoundOfFlesh 3 points 1 monthMar 16, 2025 16:46:21 ago (+8/-5)

Jeebus was a Heebus.

[ - ] Eliack 3 points 1 monthMar 16, 2025 16:34:04 ago (+5/-2)

He likely wasn't a jew, and even if he was it wouldn't change anything. Nobody hates jews for being jews after all, but for plotting against us at every turn. There are famous jews who call out other jews too, and the fact we don't hate them disproves the allegation that we are narrow-minded bigots who hate people simply for their background.

[ - ] Flanders [op] 2 points 1 monthMar 16, 2025 16:52:21 ago (+3/-1)

While some may choose not to hate them, we abhor anyone who is a traitor to our way of life, our people (by their false pretence to being white in order to subvert our White racial stock), and to subvert our White nations and governments. This they do.

We share the same disgust for anyone who does the same, and it matters not who or what they are or who they pretend to be. This is a matter for our civil society, and does not necessarily depend upon our religious, or upon non-religious, aspects. We are united on our viewpoints on the jews subversions of all types, just as we are, and should be, against others who disrupt the proper functioning of our society.

[ - ] texasblood -1 points 1 monthMar 16, 2025 21:56:24 ago (+0/-1)

Plenty of those cucks around here

[ - ] Razzoriel 2 points 1 monthMar 16, 2025 17:37:35 ago (+3/-1)*

Jesus was a Judean because he was born in Judea. "Jew" was an abbreviation for Judean but also carried racial and religious context (wrongly).

Pharisees were the most common DNA people with modern Ashkenazi, but even then they lost almost all genetic markings of the sort. Ironically, modern Syrians and Lebanese are the closest today.

[ - ] UncleDoug 1 point 1 monthMar 17, 2025 01:03:12 ago (+1/-0)

This cope is the equivalent of calling someone from Texas a Texan and not an American.
You think there weren’t ethnic semites in neighbouring provinces outside of Judea? Especially when you could walk to a neighbouring state in less than 4hrs.

[ - ] Razzoriel 1 point 1 monthMar 17, 2025 03:19:57 ago (+1/-0)*

Texan is a region-based adjective.

Modern jews are not semites. You are right but irrelevant; there were ethnical and cultural greeks in Macedonia, and no one except who lived in the region could tell. Can you differ a Belgian, a Dutch and a northeastern French?

[ - ] UncleDoug 0 points 1 monthMar 17, 2025 07:22:24 ago (+0/-0)

Texan is a region-based adjective.

Holy shit, you've almost worked it out dude. Now extrapolate that further after removing your cuck blinders.
Judea, Samaria, Idumea, and Galilee, all townships not even states.

Judea to Galilee was about 70 miles, or two and a half days' walk.

By comparison Rhode island in USa, the smallest state is 48miles long. Are you telling me jews couldnt walk for more than a few hours, but after the disapora they ended up in Rome and Russia.

Modern jews are not semites.

Absolutely wrong based on genetics, history, pretty much every known method to mankind.

Can you differ a Belgian, a Dutch and a northeastern French?

Yes; different, pronunciation, vocabulary and genetics.

[ - ] Razzoriel 0 points 1 monthMar 17, 2025 07:49:08 ago (+0/-0)

Tribal placement in a region are drastically different than modern cultural norms, thanks for playing though.

[ - ] UncleDoug 0 points 1 monthMar 17, 2025 07:55:23 ago (+0/-0)

So Judeans are jews, but Galileans and Idimeans are not jews?

Do you take retard pills?

Galilee being predominantly Jewish, and Judaea serving as the core region of Jewish life and culture
Idumea contained Edomites who were descendants of Esau, brother of Jacob (who became Israel), and initially considered enemies of the Israelites, they were later forcibly converted to Judaism by the Hasmoneans and became part of the Jewish people. So genetic semites that became spiritually and political jewish 2 millenia ago.

KYS now, I have no time for disengenuous fuckers.

[ - ] Razzoriel -1 points 1 monthMar 17, 2025 12:13:39 ago (+0/-1)

Judeans can be any of the 13 tribes. Jesus was Judean, but also was a Galilean. Pharisees were Judean too.

Modern judaism has nothing to do with biblical hebrew, starting with circuncision, which changed from an inch-long cut to complete mutilation during the Ashkenazi period.

See video "the not so chosen people"

[ - ] dassar 0 points 1 monthMar 16, 2025 20:18:55 ago (+1/-1)

Wasn't he considered a Jude (one born in Judea) the more historically correct abbreviation for Judean, and not jew ?.
Ie, at that time, the term jew was never used to describe someone born in judea, only until more modern times - when everything has been dumbed down or purposely misrepresented.

[ - ] Razzoriel 0 points 1 monthMar 17, 2025 03:16:17 ago (+0/-0)

Jew was supposed to be an abbreviation, but carried racial and religious connotations as well. So Judean could mean all tribes in the region, but jew was supposed to both tribal and religious. The equivalence would be Briton/Judean and British/Jew. Obviously, the idea was wrong.

[ - ] dassar 1 point 1 monthMar 17, 2025 15:16:20 ago (+1/-0)

Yes, i agree.
I actully thought of the same thing when typing my other comment.
A (White / Anglo) born in Britian to British parents and Grandparents etc is a Brit - vs a nigger couple that spit out their sprog in Britian isnt really a Brit.

[ - ] GreatSatan 2 points 1 monthMar 16, 2025 17:02:35 ago (+4/-2)

So...still not White?

[ - ] Not_C 1 point 1 monthMar 16, 2025 20:08:55 ago (+2/-1)

Niggers portray Jesus as black. Chinks portray him as a slant eyed midget. But what did he really look like?

2,000 years ago, the area where the Silk Road met the Mediterranean was an extremely important part of the Roman Empire. If there was someone pushing a new religion and amassing followers, the Romans would have documented it.
And every historian agrees that there was someone doing just that, in that area, at that time.

Now "religious scholars" will base their description around their mythology. People today will push what they want to be true.
But how did the unbiased Roman records describe an individual who was starting a new religion and amassing followers 2,000 years ago in the extremely important part of the Roman Empire where the Silk Road met the Mediterranean?
They described him as blond and blue.

But that unbiased description might not match your mythology or what you want to be true.

[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 1 point 1 monthMar 16, 2025 23:05:45 ago (+1/-0)

every historian

By which you basically mean Josephus, a jew, and some people writing hundreds of years after the fact. Wonder what the histories the christians destroyed would have said about them.

[ - ] Not_C 1 point 1 monthMar 17, 2025 00:39:51 ago (+3/-2)

By which you basically mean

Do you think this leftist/Jewish tactic is going to work here?

We've been over this before Natty.
You're a traitor to the White race for spreading Jewish lies and protecting the kikes.

Christianity is a weapon that Whites can use to attack the kikes, the Anti-Christ.
While traitors like you try to use it to protect the kikes.

Traitors deserve to hang.

[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 0 points 1 monthMar 17, 2025 06:08:32 ago (+0/-0)

Right, we've been over the fact that you worship a jew and tell others to worship a jew and are dumb enough to think that jew worship can somehow be turned against the jew even though all you'll be doing is playing into the jews' plans.

[ - ] Not_C 1 point 1 monthMar 17, 2025 14:33:18 ago (+2/-1)

Me - Hey Christian. Your religion tells you to attack the Anti-Christ, the Jews.

Rabbi - Oy vey. We must stop the White Supremacist before he has us all killed. "Hey Natty!! Be a good goy and tell the Christians that we aren't the Anti-Christ!"

Natty - Yesum massa. Right away massa. I'll be a good goy and do just that massa.

Traitor deserve to hang.

[ - ] FreeinTX -1 points 1 monthMar 16, 2025 19:49:26 ago (+1/-2)

If Jesus wasn't a jew, he was most likely Aryan. That means "more white than you," faggot.

[ - ] Flanders [op] 1 point 1 monthMar 17, 2025 04:07:49 ago (+1/-0)

Jesus of Nazareth was a Galilean or a resident of Galilee. He was not a jew or a Judean, and was not a resident of Judea, and was directly descended from King David, who is described in the Old Testament as White — with “fair” and “ruddy” skin - (able to show blood in the face” or “rosy” or “able to blush”) [1 Samuel 16:12].
He was not olive-skinned, like a Palestinean or the Edomites.

[ - ] Not_C 0 points 1 monthMar 18, 2025 02:37:39 ago (+0/-0)

He was not a jew or a Judean, and was not a resident of Judea, and was directly descended from King David,

Jesus was not a descendant of David.
Jesus' stepdad was a descendant of David.
The Virgin Mary gave birth to Jesus when she was married to Joseph. So Jesus fulfilled the prophesy of being "born into the House of David" without being a descendant of David.

Jesus was not ethnically or racially related to the Jews or the House of David. But he was born into the House of David.

God set it up that way. And that's why the virgin birth was such an important part.
So that a Gentile would fulfil the prophesy of the Messiah, and bring the promise of the spirit to the Gentiles.

[ - ] GreatSatan -2 points 1 monthMar 16, 2025 20:25:33 ago (+0/-2)

He more looked like this actually https://files.catbox.moe/7puoxm.jpg

[ - ] Indoctrinated_USA 1 point 1 monthMar 16, 2025 21:45:07 ago (+1/-0)*

I don't give a shit if he was or was not a jew.

I care that the christian makes every issue about christians, the jew makes every every issue about jews, and that the muslim makes every issue about muslims. They're collectively history's ultimate victims and they won't hesitate to tell you about the unjust nature of their oppression...
You don't even have to ask.

Two thousand years of their enduring institutions, the various sociopolitical entities, of the sects and denominations have demonstrated nothing but a gluttonous, hypocritical, self-serving, totalitarian pathology, entirely at the expense of the various European peoples. Abrahamic adherents are an invasive sickness whose absence would instantly benefit the whole of the earth.

No one needs to debate whether jesus was jew or not... It's no more important than any other mythological disagreement and it has no bearing on any issue that truly matters - It's just mental masturbation for the zealot.
What matters is what's real; addressing the world around you and its relatively modern historical struggle that is or can be objectively known; it's happening in front of you, it's being done to you.
It requires no artificially induced fear, no social media-based memetic facts about theology, no reliance on social indoctrination, to observe what israel and domestic jewish interests have been allowed to do to our society... But attacking such considerations are very much dependent on the ignorance of the indoctrinated zealots.So why has the enemy been allowed to do this?

Is it the leftist elements that insulate them? No... It's the fucking christian that protects them so fervently. The christian is responsible for the destruction of the White European people; they have defended, exalted, funded, and outright served the enemy for over seventy years because they prevent any action, any discussion, from occurring that does not submit itself to their religious arrogance.

Tens of millions of White Europeans who see what we see, feel what we feel, all actively collaborating with the enemy to render any action mute. Why? Because if the solution violates their indoctrination - they relentlessly attack it - like they have always done.

Meanwhile, they pretend to fight a cultural war they long since surrendered because acknowledging their role in the cultural subversion campaigns of the past half century would inexorably expose the truth - and a broad understanding of that truth would shatter the population's faith in the church, it's teachings, and the religion thereby - and that will not be allowed.

So, without a sufficient population or unifying understanding of what is happening, by who, and how - the White race will find itself utterly bereft of defenders and will be destroyed in it's stead.

Thanks christians.



[ - ] Hermes 1 point 1 monthMar 16, 2025 17:45:11 ago (+1/-0)

This is just sad level of bargaining for a fictional sun-god. He was born in the jewish tribes, but because he was not born of the tribe of Judeah, he is not a jew.

Your argument is the same as saying a Shiite is not a Muslim, because it is a Shiite specifically. It is still a muslim and your character is still a jew.

[ - ] VitaminSieg 1 point 1 monthMar 16, 2025 19:10:59 ago (+1/-0)

Shiite and Suuni are branches of the muslim religion. Muslims are arabs. Arabs are semites. Jews are semites. It's a racial question, not a religious question. Why do Aryans give a shit about the minutiae of these filthy people?

[ - ] BushChuck5002 1 point 1 monthMar 16, 2025 16:48:35 ago (+7/-6)

The christcope is real.

[ - ] xmasskull 1 point 1 monthMar 16, 2025 16:45:06 ago (+10/-9)

"Jesus" was a character in a book of stories written to influence the populace of the times.

[ - ] dosvydanya_freedomz 3 points 1 monthMar 16, 2025 21:00:19 ago (+5/-2)

wrong tacitus, josephus and even cesar wrote about the existence of jesus. you are an ignorant dude

most atheists do recognize that he existed, its retards like you that think it was a fairy tale when there's hardcore evidence of his existence.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 1 monthMar 16, 2025 17:58:48 ago (+2/-2)

He may have been based on a real person. I don’t think you can know with 100% certainty such a person didn’t exist.

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy 1 point 1 monthMar 16, 2025 18:39:33 ago (+3/-2)

Even secular scholarship has dismissed the never existed claim.

Though the gospels are evidence themselves. Secularists demanding to see proof he existed ignore that along with being of a religious nature scripture is a historical account. It's asinine.

[ - ] UncleDoug -1 points 1 monthMar 17, 2025 01:06:05 ago (+0/-1)

The Illiad was a book, I’m pretty sure harpy-hags and mermaids don’t exist.

[ - ] Love240 -1 points 1 monthMar 19, 2025 02:23:09 ago (+0/-1)

False equivalence; Homer never intended people believe that the Illiad was a true historical story nor was it claimed to be the Word of God.

[ - ] PostWallHelena -3 points 1 monthMar 16, 2025 20:42:56 ago (+1/-4)

Even secular scholarship has dismissed the never existed claim.

I don’t think it has at all. One thing biblical scholarship has established is that scripture is highly inaccurate historically. There was no exodus. There was no great genocide of goyim under Joshua. There were no giants. There was no great flood.

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy 1 point 1 monthMar 16, 2025 21:21:57 ago (+2/-1)

[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 0 points 1 monthMar 16, 2025 23:00:50 ago (+0/-0)

You should consider the possibility that he was 2000 year old predictive programming. Just like the jews put predictive programming in tv shows and movies to let us know they're going to do 9/11, Trump, and covid, perhaps 2000 years ago some kabbala wizard predicted the fall of the temple to set up for the sacrifice that would be used to cast a spell on Rome.

https://odysee.com/@TheNaturalOrder:5/originofchristianity:c

[ - ] PostWallHelena -1 points 1 monthMar 17, 2025 12:37:48 ago (+0/-1)

I generally dont give credence to claims of conscious predictive programming. Predictive programming is certainly possible but I think very rare. There are certainly aspect of jesus’ life that are fictionalized to fulfill certain ancient prophecies of jews, as far as Im concerned. I leave open the possibility that there was a real person who jesus is based on, even if the details of his life were changes. I think religious movements like christianity are mostly spontaneous and not 27D chess games played by jews to defeat gentiles 20 centuries into the future. There are gifted political analysts in any age but none of them are wizards. Rome was seduced because it was pandered to with hopium and agape. But it was already in trouble as you know. They were not conservative. They were greedy and expansionist. Their successes set up their collapse, What the fuck were they doing in hymie town anyway?

Anyway it doesn’t matter. The roman religion would have been just as bad .

[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 0 points 1 monthMar 17, 2025 12:51:40 ago (+0/-0)

none of them are wizards

How are you so completely ignorant of 90% of what judaism even is?

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 1 monthMar 17, 2025 12:56:11 ago (+0/-0)

Theres no such thing a wizardry. “Wizards” do not have supernatural powers of prescience. You believe jews can see 2000 years into the future?

[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 0 points 1 monthMar 17, 2025 12:57:58 ago (+0/-0)

They didn't need to see 2000 years in the future, but they absolutely do use spiritual abilities to control the masses. We should be training our own spiritual ability to counter them. They have spent thousands of years trying to destroy our ancestral beliefs and mystery schools to keep us weak.

[ - ] PostWallHelena 0 points 1 monthMar 17, 2025 13:07:23 ago (+0/-0)

They have no spiritual abilities only psychological ones. Thers no such thing as spiritual abilities.

We should focus on promoting reality and rejecting ideas like spiritual ability and other mumbo jumbo. We should focus on being more skeptical rational people and not try to be more like jews.

Who gives a shit about ancestral beliefs? Theyre false. Its useful to study the lifestyles of our ancestors but we shouldn’t copy their ignorance.

[ - ] Love240 -1 points 1 monthMar 19, 2025 02:27:16 ago (+0/-1)

Says the man who believes the kikes lies and divides Whites over Christianity.

[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 0 points 1 monthMar 19, 2025 09:02:56 ago (+0/-0)

Maybe you should read your bible and notice that the entire thing is written by jews about jews to teach you to worship a jew.

[ - ] Love240 -1 points 1 monthMar 19, 2025 15:19:18 ago (+0/-1)

Your lies don't work here, kike.

[ - ] GreatSatan -1 points 1 monthMar 16, 2025 17:05:14 ago (+4/-5)

Begone jew filth

[ - ] FreeinTX -2 points 1 monthMar 16, 2025 19:47:48 ago (+1/-3)

Wrong.

[ - ] albatrosv15 0 points 1 monthMar 17, 2025 06:11:22 ago (+0/-0)

The word “Jew” did not come into existence until the year 1775.
As everything else, it's all fake.

[ - ] Kozel 0 points 1 monthMar 17, 2025 01:29:27 ago (+0/-0)

i dont care and i dont see why it even matters

[ - ] zongongo 0 points 1 monthMar 16, 2025 19:48:54 ago (+1/-1)

I wish more people would take my advice and just watch this.
"100 Proofs The Israelites Were White"

https://youtu.be/-_pBwpOoLo0?si=QH25E74Hv8nQBU4z

100 pieces of evidence is impossible to dismiss.
Dismiss 10, 20 , 30 whatever.
Here's 100. Take the challenge.

[ - ] HonkyMcNiggerSpic 0 points 1 monthMar 16, 2025 19:39:42 ago (+1/-1)

Odin and Sumerians is my religion now.

[ - ] FreeinTX 0 points 1 monthMar 16, 2025 19:50:56 ago (+3/-3)

Odin, or at least everything you know about odin, is a made up thing. Made up by a faggot, an actual homosexual, living in 1970's San Francisco.

[ - ] dassar -1 points 1 monthMar 16, 2025 20:34:28 ago (+1/-2)

Odin-
You do realize the overwhelming majority of pagan sects worldwide publicly support diversity, homosexuality and lgbtq-p nonsense among their own followers as totally being in line with the (modernized) pagan precepts of 'non-judgmental freedom of self-identify, freedom of expression and ethical living'.


Sumerian -
Most historians have suggested that Sumer was first permanently settled between c. 5500 and c. 3300 BC by a West Asian people who spoke the Sumerian language (pointing to the names of cities, rivers, basic occupations, etc., as evidence), a non-Semitic and non-Indo-European agglutinative language isolate.

[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 0 points 1 monthMar 16, 2025 23:03:59 ago (+1/-1)

The Asatru Folk Assembly is an explicitly pro-white religion, and many leading Nazis were Pagans who put the Germanic runes on things (see the SS logo for an obvious example). The fact that some lefty pagans exist doesn't delegitimize the Paganism of our ancestors before jews subverted them any more than the fact that evangelicals will do anything for Israel, mainline protestants let trannies become pastors, and catholics helped jews run the banks for thousands of years delegitimizes christianity.

The fact that christianity was created by jews delegitimizes christianity, but Paganism can help you explore spirituality outside the jew book.

[ - ] dassar -1 points 1 monthMar 17, 2025 01:02:02 ago (+1/-2)

Lol, nope. The very first internet search.

Asatru, a modern revival of ancient Norse beliefs, offers a rich tapestry of mythology, rituals, and values. Rooted in honor, courage, and community, it celebrates the Norse gods and goddesses like Odin, Thor, and Freyja. Asatru emphasizes a deep connection to nature and the cycles of life, encouraging followers to live in harmony with the world around them.

Like any religion, Asatru faces its share of challenges and controversies. These issues can impact how the faith is perceived and practiced.

Some extremist groups have misappropriated Asatru symbols, leading to negative associations.
There is ongoing debate within the community about inclusivity and diversity.

And from the Basic beliefs of Asatru blog site - (Written by an actual practicing Asatru member)

'We believe in living our lives forthrightly. We do not believe in hiding who we are. If we are gay, we are openly gay. If we are polyamorous then we are openly polyamorous. If we are a democrat, then we are openly a democrat.'

Bunch of faggot, demon worshipping spellcasters. Big lulz.

[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 0 points 1 monthMar 17, 2025 06:07:52 ago (+0/-0)

In other words, you're quoting some group other than the one I named. Want me to link you to a million christian churches that support the gays?

[ - ] dassar 1 point 1 monthMar 17, 2025 15:11:06 ago (+1/-0)

Lol, so you're saying 'not these retards but these ones over here'

How bout you Point me where Asatru claim 'specifically Pro-White Traditionals and beliefs' then, and not just 'hurr durr our ancestors'.

Want me to link you to a million christian churches that support the gays?

Meh, i'm not a Christian, but whatever blows your goat.

[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 0 points 1 monthMar 17, 2025 15:29:33 ago (+0/-0)

Runestone.org for specifically pro-white Pagans.

[ - ] dassar 0 points 1 monthMar 17, 2025 16:12:40 ago (+1/-1)*

Lol, ghey.
At least they only need to hire a single bus.

[ - ] HeyJames 0 points 1 monthMar 16, 2025 19:00:27 ago (+2/-2)

Why did he call himself "king of the jews" then? The only Roman evidence for his existence cites an execution record, in Latin that the "king of the jews" was executed. That certainly wasn't a language mistake.

[ - ] dassar 0 points 1 monthMar 16, 2025 20:42:45 ago (+1/-1)

Thought it was well understood that He didnt, others did and then made/ used the claim against him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus,_King_of_the_Jews

[ - ] HeyJames 1 point 1 monthMar 16, 2025 21:34:09 ago (+1/-0)

I'm pretty sure in the new testament it cites Jesus as the Jewish messiah

[ - ] dassar 1 point 1 monthMar 17, 2025 01:27:08 ago (+1/-0)

Pretty sure Messiah and King do not have the same exact meaning or etymology.

[ - ] Master_Foo 0 points 1 monthMar 16, 2025 17:54:19 ago (+2/-2)

Matthew 2:2

[ - ] FreeinTX -1 points 1 monthMar 16, 2025 19:53:15 ago (+0/-1)

Nice try, retard. King Herod wasn't suggesting that Christ was a jew, but rather the "king of the jews" as he understood it.

Christ is King, of even the jews.

[ - ] Master_Foo 0 points 1 monthMar 16, 2025 20:15:10 ago (+1/-1)

Herod wasn't suggesting anything.
The 3 Magi were.
I guess you need to take them out of the nativity scene now.

[ - ] carnold03 0 points 1 monthMar 16, 2025 17:30:44 ago (+0/-0)

[ - ] UncleDoug -1 points 1 monthMar 17, 2025 01:00:44 ago (+0/-1)

The word homosexual wasn’t used until 1868, so playing tard olympics with christcucks, that means there were no faggots before the 19th century.

OP KYS now.

[ - ] Not_C -1 points 1 monthMar 16, 2025 19:49:31 ago (+0/-1)

You're over complicating things.

The Virgin Mary, who was a virgin, (that's where the "virgin" in the Virgin Mary comes from) and why she was called the Virgin Mary instead of just Mary.
She gave birth to Jesus while married to Joseph, who was a descendant of David.
Therefore, Jesus the gentile was born into the House of David. Fulfilling the prophesy of the Messiah, without being biologically related to Joseph or David.

To say Jesus was a Jew is saying that the Virgin Mary wasn't a virgin, and Joseph the Jew was Jesus' biological father.
It's blasphemy to say, or imply, that the Virgin Mary wasn't a virgin.

Christianity in one sentence is -
- The Gentile Jesus fulfilled the prophesy of the Messiah, and brought the promise of the Spirit to the Gentiles.

God set it up so that a Gentile would fulfil the prophesy, and bring the promise of the Spirit to the Gentiles.
And God accomplished that using a virgin birth.

The argument you're using is a waste of time.
A Gentile fulfilled the prophesy, and brought the promise of the Spirit to the Gentiles.

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy 2 points 1 monthMar 16, 2025 21:31:26 ago (+2/-0)

Kinda bizarre. You seem to be arguing Mary wasn't a Jew.

https://www.gotquestions.org/Mary-lineage.html

[ - ] Not_C -1 points 1 monthMar 16, 2025 22:55:52 ago (+0/-1)

That's Jewish lies.

For those of you who don't know -

There are 2 different lines of descendants given that trace Joseph and his step-son Jesus back to David.
Both are nearly identical, except one says Heli (Gospel of Matthew) and the other says Jacob (Gospel of Luke) for Joseph's father.

Jewish bullshit, like in the link you gave, say Heli is the father of Mary, and Jacob the father of Joseph.

But the truth is that in biblical times, just like today, Jews have a Jewish name and a blend in name.
A perfect example is how the disciple Peter went by Peter around Gentiles, and Simon around Jews.

Jacob is the Jewish name, and Heli is the Greco-Roman name, that Joseph's dad went by.

The Virgin Mary was not a kike.

[ - ] Joe_McCarthy -3 points 1 monthMar 16, 2025 16:43:51 ago (+0/-3)*

Racial theorists Houston Stewart Chamberlain and his disciple the chief Nazi ideologue Alfred Rosenberg spent much time in their main books offering tortured theories about Jesus not being a Jew. Like the son of a Roman soldier or some kind of other Aryan from Galilee or some such.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Foundations_of_the_Nineteenth_Century

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Myth_of_the_Twentieth_Century

I dunno how you get non-Jew from this though:

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%201&version=NIV

Direct descendant of David. Of the tribe of Judah.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%203%3A23-38&version=NIV

Doesn't matter anyway. He incarnated as a Jew to fulfill a prophecy. But to be a Jew you have to be a human being. A Jew is a type of human. He isn't human. He incarnated as a human 2000 years ago.