They wouldn't have needed bullshit jobs if we hadn't exported our entire fucking economy, and then implemented infinity regulations that make it impossible to run or start a mid-tier business while shitfucking people into the ground with taxes, red tape, and gotchas.
You gotta be a fucking lawyer just to run a business-to-business company.
Not to mention all the infinity-welfare for franchise corporations that don't do business with one man companies but instead buy entirely from corporate-welfare-whores like IBM and no other.
Complete hierarchies-within-hierarchies of interlocking kleptocracies up-to-their gills with gatekept billion dollar markets fucking everywhere you look. And everyone and their dog is making a fucking app thats already been made. Do something nontrivial and get fucked into the ground by the courts or the government, so some tribe-fucks can swoop in with a stealth-government-funded or money-printer-fractional-reserve 'vc' funded competitor, for pennies-on-the-dollar with no-bid contracts and preferential new laws.
The entire fucking economy runs on graft and gatekeeping and make-work welfare jobs to compensate for it, while a million liquor stores, hash shops, and gas stations ran by foreigners pop up like malignant warts on the ass of a brothel-whore in a communist thirdworld shithole.
While public-unions light tires on fire demanding two, three, four times the pay of the average middle-class family, bleeding us all fucking dry so they can work five hours a week, and funnel their union dues to politicians paying for the support of rigged voting machines owned, like fiefdoms, by privatized FOIA-exempt voting machine companies, little more than cia cutouts, all to elect someone who is for the "gun rights of police" but not the public, for the "rights of foreigners" but not the public, "for the rights of teachers unions" but not the parents, etc, etc, etc, creating a perpetual second-class two-tiered system drowning in subhuman parasitic university indoctrinated pseudo-zealots borderline frothing at the mouth while they privately, or openly wax poetic about 'muh real communism.'
Most of these people, tens millions of them, belong in mass graves, few if any of them are recoverable.
If history were just and moral it would be so.
Not even because I hate them. But simply because both sides are now beyond the horizon of productive dialogue or recoverable relations, mostly because of the violence and spoilers and unrealistic worldview of the side that has been running things and benefiting from the status quo for decades.
They are victims of propaganda, and little more than zombies.
I see no recoverable situation for america, barring some massive cataclysm or disaster like world war three, purging millions of people in the process, those irretrievably mentally mutilated over the last three to six decades, most of whom will remain a massive net drain, a strategic security risk, and a destabilizing factor in the u.s. for the rest of their natural lives, short of some gargantuan, truly massive recovery program to fundamentally reshape and return to a uniting ethos and value system that doesn't lead to new lost generations further radicalizing.
Another way to say it is: Keep your private affairs private.
Clandestine construction is a thing, but you don't hear about it much... Assuming you have a good location, you'd first want to limit physical access to the site. Then you'd erect any ariel concealment needed, whether painted tarps, live plant material, or whatever.
Hard to know particulars of your site, but perhaps a diversion pipe or a "rock" shelf over your generator could provide the wanted level of privacy. After completion, it would need to remain unnoticable by the casual fisherman who has stream rights. Costs may or may not be worth it.
Doubt. Like most people I'm a retard, but thankfully I'm not a fucking retard.
And voat? If the nations we all come from have been lobotomized by decades of infinity-demoralization propaganda, it doesn't take much for all of us on voat to appear smart, when the international IQ has been brain-drained to room temperature.
We're just the smartest lemmings on the block. But we're still lemmings, stuck in lemming control hierarchies.
Only difference unlike most, is goats are aware of that.
And you can't fix a problem without correctly identifying what its source is.
I think the whole project of voat has been a pretty significant success in that regard, even if it only applies to our small corner of the world.
We are the brushfire. And we are the break against the prairyfire of globalization.
I think it would accelerated civil war sooner, along with ww3.
A civil war if the american people allow it (the worst outcome), a revolution if the american people will it, a war of independence if the american people work for it.
I don't support any of those of course, but out of the three, a civil war is the worst, because the government remains in power and dictates the course of events through governors, to our detriment, and their benefit/increased grip on power.
From an analytic perspective, the best outcome is states (peacefully) going their separate ways because the existing federalized system bundles what are essentially incompatible nations, tightly binding them under one system, in a way that guarantees conflict down the line.
You assume the government remains in power, that is not a given.
True.
Demographics not withstanding, a smaller state has less of an ability to enforce a global currency standard, can borrow less without destabilizing, and thus is less capable of funding and enforcing a police-state that artificially distorts or commits genocide through replacement against the citizens.
An enemy that is smaller is easier to conquer and can be pinned in place by a smaller force, be it political, economic, or religious.
Thats how defeat-in-detail operates.
Hyper-balkanization is that, defeat-in-detail, taken to the level of nation-states. I expect the populations will inevitably and naturally, in fits-and-starts, end up going that route in the long run against their own rogue governments, were national divorce to become an actual thing.
It could have, for example, happened in the post-soviet states, and in some of them it did, if you count unsatisfied military and political factions as 'citizens', although there were also the populist uprisings in former soviet bloc countries too.
[ + ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey
[ - ] TheOriginal1Icemonkey 1 point 1 monthMar 18, 2025 22:22:54 ago (+1/-0)
All of them.
[ + ] Deleted
[ - ] deleted 3 points 1 monthMar 18, 2025 19:18:01 ago (+3/-0)*
[ + ] prototype
[ - ] prototype 3 points 1 monthMar 18, 2025 20:53:53 ago (+3/-0)*
You gotta be a fucking lawyer just to run a business-to-business company.
Not to mention all the infinity-welfare for franchise corporations that don't do business with one man companies but instead buy entirely from corporate-welfare-whores like IBM and no other.
Complete hierarchies-within-hierarchies of interlocking kleptocracies up-to-their gills with gatekept billion dollar markets fucking everywhere you look. And everyone and their dog is making a fucking app thats already been made.
Do something nontrivial and get fucked into the ground by the courts or the government, so some tribe-fucks can swoop in with a stealth-government-funded or money-printer-fractional-reserve 'vc' funded competitor, for pennies-on-the-dollar with no-bid contracts and preferential new laws.
The entire fucking economy runs on graft and gatekeeping and make-work welfare jobs to compensate for it, while a million liquor stores, hash shops, and gas stations ran by foreigners pop up like malignant warts on the ass of a brothel-whore in a communist thirdworld shithole.
While public-unions light tires on fire demanding two, three, four times the pay of the average middle-class family, bleeding us all fucking dry so they can work five hours a week, and funnel their union dues to politicians paying for the support of rigged voting machines owned, like fiefdoms, by privatized FOIA-exempt voting machine companies, little more than cia cutouts, all to elect someone who is for the "gun rights of police" but not the public, for the "rights of foreigners" but not the public, "for the rights of teachers unions" but not the parents, etc, etc, etc, creating a perpetual second-class two-tiered system drowning in subhuman parasitic university indoctrinated pseudo-zealots borderline frothing at the mouth while they privately, or openly wax poetic about 'muh real communism.'
Most of these people, tens millions of them, belong in mass graves, few if any of them are recoverable.
If history were just and moral it would be so.
Not even because I hate them. But simply because both sides are now beyond the horizon of productive dialogue or recoverable relations, mostly because of the violence and spoilers and unrealistic worldview of the side that has been running things and benefiting from the status quo for decades.
They are victims of propaganda, and little more than zombies.
I see no recoverable situation for america, barring some massive cataclysm or disaster like world war three, purging millions of people in the process, those irretrievably mentally mutilated over the last three to six decades, most of whom will remain a massive net drain, a strategic security risk, and a destabilizing factor in the u.s. for the rest of their natural lives, short of some gargantuan, truly massive recovery program to fundamentally reshape and return to a uniting ethos and value system that doesn't lead to new lost generations further radicalizing.
[ + ] Sector2
[ - ] Sector2 1 point 1 monthMar 19, 2025 01:44:48 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] prototype
[ - ] prototype 1 point 1 monthMar 19, 2025 16:58:03 ago (+1/-0)*
You ever try to put a hydroelectric generator on a river on your property in the middle of fucking nowhere?
Watch how fast they come to try and shut you down.
You might as well be saying "just start your own country."
Hey actually, that doesn't sound like a bad idea.
[ + ] Sector2
[ - ] Sector2 0 points 1 monthMar 19, 2025 17:20:43 ago (+0/-0)
Clandestine construction is a thing, but you don't hear about it much... Assuming you have a good location, you'd first want to limit physical access to the site. Then you'd erect any ariel concealment needed, whether painted tarps, live plant material, or whatever.
Hard to know particulars of your site, but perhaps a diversion pipe or a "rock" shelf over your generator could provide the wanted level of privacy. After completion, it would need to remain unnoticable by the casual fisherman who has stream rights. Costs may or may not be worth it.
[ + ] Deleted
[ - ] deleted 1 point 1 monthMar 19, 2025 11:24:27 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] prototype
[ - ] prototype 0 points 1 monthMar 19, 2025 13:37:35 ago (+0/-0)
Doubt. Like most people I'm a retard, but thankfully I'm not a fucking retard.
And voat? If the nations we all come from have been lobotomized by decades of infinity-demoralization propaganda, it doesn't take much for all of us on voat to appear smart, when the international IQ has been brain-drained to room temperature.
We're just the smartest lemmings on the block. But we're still lemmings, stuck in lemming control hierarchies.
Only difference unlike most, is goats are aware of that.
And you can't fix a problem without correctly identifying what its source is.
I think the whole project of voat has been a pretty significant success in that regard, even if it only applies to our small corner of the world.
We are the brushfire.
And we are the break against the prairyfire of globalization.
[ + ] namefagsrgay
[ - ] namefagsrgay 0 points 1 monthMar 18, 2025 21:12:38 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] prototype
[ - ] prototype 0 points 1 monthMar 18, 2025 22:13:14 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Lophan
[ - ] Lophan 0 points 1 monthMar 18, 2025 22:18:25 ago (+0/-0)
I think it would accelerated civil war sooner, along with ww3.
I have mixed opinions on the matter
[ + ] prototype
[ - ] prototype 0 points 1 monthMar 18, 2025 22:25:43 ago (+0/-0)
A civil war if the american people allow it (the worst outcome), a revolution if the american people will it, a war of independence if the american people work for it.
I don't support any of those of course, but out of the three, a civil war is the worst, because the government remains in power and dictates the course of events through governors, to our detriment, and their benefit/increased grip on power.
From an analytic perspective, the best outcome is states (peacefully) going their separate ways because the existing federalized system bundles what are essentially incompatible nations, tightly binding them under one system, in a way that guarantees conflict down the line.
[ + ] Lophan
[ - ] Lophan 1 point 1 monthMar 18, 2025 22:36:54 ago (+1/-0)
States separating doesn't address the jew and nigger problem. Which is the core of the issue. (Every state has them, jews and niggers)
[ + ] prototype
[ - ] prototype 0 points 1 monthMar 18, 2025 22:46:05 ago (+0/-0)*
True.
Demographics not withstanding, a smaller state has less of an ability to enforce a global currency standard, can borrow less without destabilizing, and thus is less capable of funding and enforcing a police-state that artificially distorts or commits genocide through replacement against the citizens.
An enemy that is smaller is easier to conquer and can be pinned in place by a smaller force, be it political, economic, or religious.
Thats how defeat-in-detail operates.
Hyper-balkanization is that, defeat-in-detail, taken to the level of nation-states.
I expect the populations will inevitably and naturally, in fits-and-starts, end up going that route in the long run against their own rogue governments, were national divorce to become an actual thing.
It could have, for example, happened in the post-soviet states, and in some of them it did, if you count unsatisfied military and political factions as 'citizens', although there were also the populist uprisings in former soviet bloc countries too.
[ + ] watts2db
[ - ] watts2db 2 points 1 monthMar 18, 2025 19:21:10 ago (+2/-0)
thats (((communism ))) for ya
[ + ] Sector2
[ - ] Sector2 1 point 1 monthMar 19, 2025 01:41:22 ago (+1/-0)
Stop hating yourself.