I don't mind a bowl of won-ton soup and a couple spring rolls or egg rolls once a month but that's it, everything from China is junk, our landfills are bulging with chink junk.
I ordered a CNC milling machine that is made in china. I can't afford even the cheapest CNC mill made in the USA. I'd like to buy USA made machine, or even better German made, but I have not been in business very long and simply can't afford it. If I'd try to save up long enough to afford made in USA or other western country made equipment, I simply would not be able to start and operate my own business.
A China made CNC???...in the world of machining "TOLERANCE" is crucial, with rotation comes wobble and top quality bearings are critical in maintaining true precision rotation and this is where China fails, the best bearings are German or Japanese...I can tell you a story about how advanced Japanese bearings are. The more RPM the more centrifugal forces applied to the bearings and race...nothing worse than an "out of round" shaft/spindle or housing.
[ - ] germ22 1 point 2 monthsApr 8, 2025 00:12:35 ago (+1/-0)
I read through the specs sheet. Japanese made spindle bearings, Swiss made linear guides, Taiwan made ball screw. The things I'll be machining don't have that tight of tolerances, so I should be fine for a while. And when this CNC Mill is all clapped out, I should have made enough profit to buy a German made Mill.
And you have to outfit it with a GPS and transponder link to government due to military capabilities...I'm 97% positive on that because that's what my buddy had to do, but his machine shop was turning out military components and projectiles...good luck
[ - ] germ22 1 point 2 monthsApr 8, 2025 09:38:39 ago (+1/-0)
I've only seen that requirement on five axis machines. Place i worked before had a Mazak mill turn machine with GPS tracker. Even moving it across the shop had to get a US government agency involved to get permissions and what not so the machine wouldn't be locked out. So dumb since we are in Canada.
lol, try buying a Made in USA appliance component. Something simple, like a dryer door switch. THERE AIN'T NONE. The shit in hardware stores (most of it) is Chinese. We USED to make all of it, but havent for decades. The factories DO NOT EXIST in the US. The trained workers/designers/engineers do not exist. It would take countless billions to build these factories, and train workers. It would take YEARS. Home Depot has HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of items for sale, almost all made in China. Your car parts are made in China. On and on. Your car won't start because of a defective module? Tough shit, the module WAS made in China, but there are NONE AVAILABLE now (I mean after China stops making them/embargoes the US/whatever may come).
Oh sure, I will just start a factory making washing machine motherboards! I can do that in my garage! Nevermind that there are hundreds of different models! WE CAN DO DIS, PATRIT!!
[ + ] CaptainMongo
[ - ] CaptainMongo 1 point 2 monthsApr 7, 2025 20:52:43 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] aleleopathic
[ - ] aleleopathic 1 point 2 monthsApr 7, 2025 20:39:04 ago (+1/-0)
Protective racism? They're better at it than we are, and the strength of their society reflects this.
[ + ] Zyklonbeekeeper
[ - ] Zyklonbeekeeper 3 points 2 monthsApr 7, 2025 19:14:21 ago (+3/-0)
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[ - ] bosunmoon 1 point 2 monthsApr 8, 2025 16:04:07 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Sal_180
[ - ] Sal_180 1 point 2 monthsApr 7, 2025 18:42:17 ago (+1/-0)
You seriously think that covers you for "electronics"? 😂
[ + ] Trope
[ - ] Trope [op] 0 points 2 monthsApr 7, 2025 19:09:45 ago (+0/-0)
Worst case scenario, I’m on a computer less. And I like those odds.
[ + ] germ22
[ - ] germ22 4 points 2 monthsApr 7, 2025 18:39:41 ago (+4/-0)
If I'd try to save up long enough to afford made in USA or other western country made equipment, I simply would not be able to start and operate my own business.
[ + ] Trope
[ - ] Trope [op] 2 points 2 monthsApr 7, 2025 19:40:13 ago (+2/-0)
[ + ] Zyklonbeekeeper
[ - ] Zyklonbeekeeper 2 points 2 monthsApr 7, 2025 22:27:05 ago (+2/-0)
The more RPM the more centrifugal forces applied to the bearings and race...nothing worse than an "out of round" shaft/spindle or housing.
[ + ] germ22
[ - ] germ22 1 point 2 monthsApr 8, 2025 00:12:35 ago (+1/-0)
The things I'll be machining don't have that tight of tolerances, so I should be fine for a while. And when this CNC Mill is all clapped out, I should have made enough profit to buy a German made Mill.
[ + ] Zyklonbeekeeper
[ - ] Zyklonbeekeeper 1 point 2 monthsApr 8, 2025 05:20:08 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] germ22
[ - ] germ22 1 point 2 monthsApr 8, 2025 09:38:39 ago (+1/-0)
Place i worked before had a Mazak mill turn machine with GPS tracker. Even moving it across the shop had to get a US government agency involved to get permissions and what not so the machine wouldn't be locked out. So dumb since we are in Canada.
[ + ] jfroybees
[ - ] jfroybees 3 points 2 monthsApr 7, 2025 18:39:22 ago (+3/-0)
[ + ] HelenHighwater
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[ + ] Trope
[ - ] Trope [op] 3 points 2 monthsApr 7, 2025 18:34:02 ago (+4/-1)
[ + ] Anus_Expander
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[ + ] Trope
[ - ] Trope [op] 1 point 2 monthsApr 7, 2025 19:08:06 ago (+2/-1)
I appreciate your optimize however sarcastic.
In the meantime, perhaps Taiwan could serve as a valid source of washing machine motherboards.
[ + ] Drstrangestgov
[ - ] Drstrangestgov 0 points 2 monthsApr 7, 2025 19:29:31 ago (+0/-0)
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[ + ] Trope
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