I was explaining how Shariah law was incompatible with White nations. Their only answer was that to prove God's kindness, my only choice is to sit there, and wait to get killed, so i can show the love of Jesus to others. I tried explaining there wont be any Christianity to spread if all those Christians are dead. Instead I was told that the only way to stop this is to placate and enable muslims, giving them the religious tolerance they need to practice. See Jesus is coming back soon, and since well all be dead soon, who gives a shit? (paraphrasing their words, not mine). As far as they're concerned, even bringing it up is too much. But if those same ass fucks criticize us? Well the onus is now on me to show the kindness of Christ by placating them. So let me get this straight, all i can do is sit there and get fucked by islam, whilst those same assholes can force demands on me and i have to listen? They can kill me, my family, and my entire neighborhood. But if i bring it up, im the bad guy?
Loving everyone is exactly why Catholicism always expressed nations and peoples need to live separate when their culture is different. Tower of Babel and stuff. Loving blacks and beaners is wishing the best on their own country and expecting themselves to build it.
The "cast out" method is not of this world. Jesus meant for us to live like people not from here, and the only nation we'd feel at home was by His side.
This has nothing to do with nations, politics and geography. The Tower of Babel analogy stands because Jesus never rebuked it.
I just remember going to my friends church and he would tel me watch my mom fake yawn. Then he would offer her a piece of gum she would take it then put it in her mouth via the fake yawn.
Modern "Christianity" as taught and practiced by 99%+ of the Churches on earth is not in agreement with the New Testament.
Biblical Christianity is not an organization, though it expects organizations to arise among it's followers, it teaches that we are our own priests and we don't need anyone but God, through faith in His Son and the guidance of his Holy Spirit, to find truth and salvation.
This limp-wristed false Christianity that teaches the one commandment of "be nice" is like a giant cult that super over-emphasizes "love they neighbor and pray for your enemies" into the WHOLE message in a super feminine way that literally emasculates it's followers. And it's so much easier to refuse to fight and blame your laziness and cowardice on a command from God, than to represent the very divisive person of Jesus of Nazareth accurately to a world that hates Him.
No, the scriptures say there is a time to hate and a time to kill, not just a time love and a time to heal. And yes the new testament agrees. With Jesus Himself not only showing an example of righteous violence but directly declaring in His own words His condemnation of people and hatred of their deeds.
Now it's true that there is a lot of tolerance taught in the Bible but it's more toward being self-sacrificing and not at all about tolerating evil like most "churches" today de facto teach. The whole first part of revelation is Jesus telling groups of believers what they're doing wrong and tolerating evil is his most prominent criticism and in one of the few rare times He actually praises something about a Church it's because of their intolerance of evil. (Rev 2:6)
So if you wonder why it keeps coming back to Jesus when you're trying to really get to the ultimate truth, but then you go look into it and all you see is fake or extremely watered down Christianity, of course it's going to look like stupid bullshit, because that's exactly what "they" set out to do, subvert it.
35 And he said unto them, When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing? And they said, Nothing. 36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. 37 For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end. 38 And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough.
Careful with the techings, research your church and the bible they use. Jews lied to Christinas and gave them a compromised interpretation of it to benefit their satanistic control over Christianity.
Are you saying they did this 100 years ago with the scofield bible, 500 years ago when they lied to Martin Luther as he was translating the bible, or 1700 years ago when they took over Rome and made all religions except christianity and judaism illegal while giving jews special privileges in banking?
The first Bibles were printed in 1455, Christopher Columbus landed in the Americas in 1492.
Also, Gutenberg got his financing from Fust, a merchant & banker but not a Rothschild. Izaak Elchanan didn't adopt the name Rothschild until the late 15th century.
It wasn't the first printed Bibles at all but it was a huge number of actually good bibles with a corrupt jew controlled false preachers "notes" taking up the bottom quarter of every page that the rothschild controlled oxford press mass produced and gifted to every fundamentalist bible school in the US in vast numbers that taught a bunch of bible students a bunch of zionist-friendly false doctrines that taint their understanding of scripture to this day in almost every , even fundamentalist, church in america.
And that all happened in the 1800s. So no where near the first.
Quietism is inherent in Christianity. It's a jewish deathcult offshoot. Welcome to a shitty age of spiritual enlightenment, borther. It gets worse before it gets better.
Good point OP, believe in Jesus's kindness and wisdom or rot in hell sinner. LOL. I started seriously rejecting the bullshit about 2nd grade when the Episcopalian priest told me that because dogs don't have free will, they don't go to heaven. I didn't say anything, but in my mind I thought, fuck that - I want to go where the dogs are.
Should have told that dumbass that if you switch the d and g, it spells God. You can feed any pet twice a day, give it some scratches, and it will love you for the rest of its too short life.
Christianity is the biggest reason for the collapse of Western civilization. A passive, feminine religion based on tolerance, forgiveness, and blind faith.
Yeah. Church is gay now. I cannot fucking stand it, and I absolutley cannot fucking stand the "men" who happily and obediently go along with the faggotry.
I went to church on Easter and had a "conversation" with another man there, some bright-eyed beta dad-bod fellow, and it was like talking to a hollow-brained cult member. And all the singing... it was more than half singing, and the rest was all about how you to HAVE to forgive everyone for everything. Not kidding. 100% of the sermon was singing and/or "be a bitch and forgive everyone for everything" shit.
The last church I went to, prior to this Easter, the sermon was all about how the congregation needs to dig deeper and contribute more [money] to the church. Just get fucked already.
Why would I waste my time and energy being confrontational with people who are unwilling to think critically? I've been done with trying to change other people for a long time now.
[ - ] UncleDoug 1 point 3 hoursApr 30, 2025 11:24:04 ago (+1/-0)
Christcuckery is a slave morality complex, fulfilling its jewish obligation to make sure White people don't fight their extinction. Return to Pagan now!
Do not think that I came to send peace upon earth: I came not to send peace, but the sword.
Matthew 10:34
You are a feminized kike, unfortunately.
If you are cornered and have no choice but to accept death, then you accept it peacefully. You better not be a faggotkike and allow those pedophiles to live.
Christianity came from the desert. Whites used to have gods of concepts like "vengeance, war, doom, fertility", and so on.
Do you think a god of war or vengeance would be like "yeah just let them kill you"? No, their proscriptions would be "Gather all of the brave men, go and kill the enemy before they can kill you, bring victory to your people".
Remind me, what happened when Rome turned Christian? Who CRUSHED their asses? Who threw open the gates of Rome to welcome their own killers? Christians. Christianity was the knife slipped into Rome's back. Then, all of the Chad "barbarians" came and showed the utter lack of power the Christian faith had.
Let me tell you something about Muslims. Almost 3 years I was around them, in their own natural habitat.
They are born into nothing. Poverty isn't really something they grasp till they get to western countries. To them...value is in bloodlines and sons. . Women are treated as property and I get you if there isn't empathy but I watched a teenage girl get her fucking head chopped off for the accusation of making a man lust for her.
This behavior makes them barbaric to me. Added no matter what your pastor, pope, decon, or bishop says...there are two types of Muslims.
There is the extreme Muslim that blows shit up, shoots people and is a terrorist, then you have the tolerant Muslim that will pick one side and it's always Allah.
They will harbor the extreme Muslim, they will feed that Muslim, they will do everything they can to ensure that extreme Muslim accomplishs his goal.
To you...they will smile and say Muslim is a religion of peace and harmony if you just give it time.
Yeah sure, fuck all of them. Countless is the amount we shot with small arms, countless is the number that were hit with rockets, missiles, ran over with tanks and striker APC.
They keep coming is what I am saying because average is 8 children for every woman...if a female cannon bear children she is killed. And she accepts that she must die.
99% of them realize their purpose as making more males. Eventually world will be Muslim people, won't be our lives, maybe not our kids either, but will definitely fucking all be Muslim.
They are locust as best i can describe. No innovation no civil engineering, they will absorb civilisations and say fuck it to upkeep.
Dubai is white people...that is who designed the skyline. Durkas were over infrastructure...go look at how well that functions.
Added that durkas love white women. They covet that like you can't imagine. It's weird how incapable of self control they are around just normal women. Let alone attractive ones.
In closing Muslims get no pleasant from me. I know what they become, and now hopefully some have an idea.
[ - ] CHIRO 1 point 4 hoursApr 30, 2025 10:30:24 ago (+1/-0)
The death of Jesus understood as some highfalutin event of theological significance was invented by what would have been scholars at the time, decades after Jesus was killed, by syncretizing ideas from Persian and Greco-Roman cults devoted to savior deities.
Some of the values you can abstract from this milieu are useful and good, like sacrifice for the sake of your people.
But applied in broad strokes to every threat you face in the world, it is suicide.
Jesus is not coming back when all but one Christian is dead. If God exists, God is very clearly an advocate of conflict for some higher purpose, or the world simply wouldn't be this brutal. The notion that one could simply hide beneath mom's skirt and hope for help to come along is so ignoble that to attach it to divinity should be considered the highest blasphemy.
[ - ] Reunto 1 point 2 hoursApr 30, 2025 12:27:40 ago (+1/-0)
The death of Jesus understood as some highfalutin event of theological significance was invented by what would have been scholars at the time
That's speculation of course. It would require 1) an extremely in depth understanding of OT scripture and contemporary Jewish culture, 2) an extremely in depth understanding of Greco-Roman culture and philosophy in order to provide compatibility and the opportunity for integration.
by syncretizing ideas from Persian and Greco-Roman cults devoted to savior deities.
I'll take my Catholic hat off for a second and talk from a secular perspective.
I always enjoy our chats, but I'll bring it up again in case an onlooker has thoughts or comments. I think I already understand your position on the topic, but I think there's value added bring it up again now and then.
Plato's the Republic offers a societal model that relies on the concept of a Philosopher King, which concept is fulfilled in Christ. It also relied on a concept of a motivating mysticism that compels people onto the ideal lifestyle. The motivating mysticism would be fulfilled in religious Christianity.
Because the philosophical following of Socrates/Plato was not a cult and that branch of Greek philosophy pointed towards the existence of a monotheistic all-God, it follows that the best fitting model for your theory was that the necessity for the coming of the Jewish Messiah during Jesus' time based on Jewish prophecies was the perfect motivating mysticism that Platonic philosophy needed. If the story of Jesus was simply a needed mystic motivator, it follows that the logic and structure of the Republic's society and its inherent aspects of Stoicism still merits attention and consideration (the motivating mysticism was explained as more or less just an onramp).
The motivating mysticism was explained in the chapter that deals with the Noble Lie. At the end of the book, there is a Noble Lie proposed, but it is easily substituted by something better fitting and adapted to the times.
It would make sense that an opportunity presented itself and the story of Jesus became the optimized version of the Noble Lie for the purpose of a motivating mysticism.
If that is the case, it would make sense to then evaluate Christianity merely as a means to getting to the point of a population adopting Socratic/Platonic principles. We should then be assessing whether those principles are good value.
Putting my Christian hat back on, the logic in the Republic was also that a truth is superior to a lie, therefore the perfect form of the Noble Lie is actually a Noble Truth. And by that, Greek philosophy was actually pointing towards a truth that was not fully known at the time. In the Bible, Paul acknowledges this concept in the verse referencing the "Altar of the unknown God". It's spelled out in Catholic doctrine that Jews came to understand Christ was coming by signs given to them, while Greeks came to understand Christ was coming by logic that was inuited by them.
Whether we take a religious or secular approach, we still need to evaluate the pros and cons of different models therein and how they inform societal behaviour.
Some of the values you can abstract from this milieu are useful and good, like sacrifice for the sake of your people. But applied in broad strokes to every threat you face in the world, it is suicide.
Worse than suicidal on an individual scale, some schools of thought can be self-destructive/suicidal for the society itself. You can have strong Christian schools of thought that aren't suicidal from a societal perspective. It's important to emphasize the fact that changes and adaptations can happen within the Church in response to threats. Threat response requires a drive for self-preservation, which is something the Catholic Church has. Not all forms of Christianity would necessarily have that.
God is very clearly an advocate of conflict for some higher purpose, or the world simply wouldn't be this brutal.
Job's suffering, as a means of proving the human spirit, is an example of this. From a secular perspective, that is just to say that your observation is consistent with the teachings of the doctrine.
The notion that one could simply hide beneath mom's skirt and hope for help to come along is so ignoble that to attach it to divinity should be considered the highest blasphemy.
I agree. And tying back into the Greek philosophy piece, I believe the stronger the reinforcement is to particular forms of Platonic philosophy mirroring the heart of Christianity, the more people will see the value in concepts that were laid out in those forms.
Some things call to action. I think it's a big piece many contemporary Christians lose perspective on. A failure to act and provide for your own is a bad thing in Christianity (cf 1 Tim 5:8) and Platonic philosophy.
Luther wrote about “The jews and their lies” and now the modern Lutheran church apologizes for their founder and adopted the (((noahide laws))) and have become the antithesis of everything Luther stood for.
Weird how the religion keeps moving in that direction - almost like it was designed to by the people who created it.
Now who was it that wrote almost the entire bible, who were the only witnesses to record Jesus' existence.... hopefully not the same people who run our banks and blackmail our politicians!
And you say that to a christcuck and he'll say "that's not real christianity" and that "real christianity is about whipping the infidels out of his temple" without being able to give a single example of that having happened in the past 500 years.
And then you'll get called a satanist or something for having brought up their masochism.
I always go back to the fall of Rome when discussing this. What precipitated the fall? Bunch of Christians. Who threw open the gates for the "savages" that fucking destroyed Rome? Christians. Totally dominated by a bunch of pagans. It's embarrassing, truly.
Any sizeable church with a building and paid staff members will be beholden to the government. Go check out the rules for 501(c)3s. An outside support group is imperative, because there are conversations in commercial churches that won't be had and will be denounced.
If you want to hear someone refreshing, check out Sir Byron Rodgers. He's titled "Sir" as a result of his induction into the Knights of Malta. I don't yet know what that entails or implies, but I've added this point of fact just because. He only joined (accepted the invitation?) about 12 months ago.
These days he's an executive protection specialist, runs Bravo Research Group, and he has Staccato and Deep Sentinel as the sponsors of his Man of Peace podcast. He's 16 episodes in as of the writing of this. https://youtube.com/@sirbyronrodgers
Back to your post, there's discernment to be had. Tolerance IS NOT a virtue. It's the difference between participating in gossip, not participating in gossip, and shutting down gossip.
If you want to talk about Jesus coming back soon... is that another deception? Perhaps we're in the little season of Revelation 20. I've got some resources if you have an interest in that topic. I'm just now getting into it, but it's making sense to me this far.
Yeah most churches that have even the basic doctrine of the gospel right and actually spread the gospel are super brainwashed to be in love with the synagogue of satan. There's a whole backstory of how that happened that I've mentioned before on here.
Makes it really hard to find a good church because rejection of replacement theology with dispensationalism completely changes people's understanding of Christ and our position in relation to God.
For like 1800 years it was understood in virtually every religious group that called itself christian that "The True Israel" in God's eyes are those, who like the patriarch Abraham, the father of the jews, believed God and that belief was counted to him for righteousness.
It directly says so repeatedly in the text and it also says that the jews according to the flesh, meaning the blood descendants of Abraham, are are not counted as jews or the chosen or elect or the sons of Abraham (it uses several terms for the same idea of "the people of God") unless they also believe God now, which, it directly states, means believing His Son. In fact it says they are antichrist if they deny that Jesus was the messiah! These are direct statements and there are many more like them that prove it.
So now we have churches, even the ultra productive soul-winning churches that teach the true gospel of salvation by grace alone received through faith alone and not by our own works of righteousness or attempts at worthiness, who have their position in the world completely upside down because they bought into the dispensationalism that jewish publishing companies snuck into fundamentalist Bible schools.
Even the very few that have and share the true gospel AND refuse to ignore the true doctrine of replacement theology and rail against the synagogue of satan instead of worshipping it, are still run by fallible humans and you can bet that if someone is telling the truth loud enough every possible skeleton in their closet is going to get exposed to try to turn people off on them.
Case in point Steven Anderson and the NIFB churches. Doctrinally the most correct gospel-preaching churches probably left on earth but aside from all the slander and libel they endure they are also humans and we're messy creatures who have ugly things about us and "they" make that every single one of a loud public truth teller's embarrassing moments or moral failings are not just aired publicly but super hyped and dramatized so people don't listen to them.
If you want good preaching though from someone who isn't afraid to tell unpopular truths about jews, sodomites, unruly women and faggoty-ass men you're not gonna beat New IFB preachers like Steven Anderson. If you're stuck at the point where you don't think being in Christ is more important than a pure Aryan bloodline or whatever stupid shit, you won't like them cause half their pastors are hispanic but that's retarded.
And I can elaborate why, despite obvious differences in average potential and frankly innate moral tendencies, being a right-hearted christian indwelt with the Holy Spirit of God is more important than being white or european or whatever standard someone is going by, because even the worst person, if God chooses to use Him, is going to be doing more of what God wants than someone who is smarter and more empathetic by nature and is directing his efforts randomly according to his own notions of right and wrong, which only sometimes coincide entirely with God's view of things.
the trick to handling crybullies is to wait til everyone is as sick of them as you are, when your friends and neighbors ask you to do something about them and the bad fruit they inevitably produce. then you nicely ask them to leave. if they don't leave and continue their bullshit, then you ask less nicely.
This is why the Church as a continual entity is important to recognize.
Apostolic succession and the recognition of the Church as a continuing entity is important. The institution defends the body of Christ.
Protestant churches have synods and other kinds of governments that the common church-going Christian protestant shrugs their shoulders over. Many of them have been taught that the institution doesn't matter and that there is no real need to strive for strong community. "Community just makes itself, right?"
The behaviour you are describing tells me that you aren't talking about a Catholic church.
If you want to defend Christianity, and be in a community that is eager to defend Christianity, I recommend at least contemplating giving Catholicism review.
If you want to keep leaning into Protestantism, Lutheranism is the closest thing. If you are ok with Lutheran doctrine, it's a very small gap to bridge in order to arrive at Catholicism.
Don't like the idea of praying to specific saints, etc? That's fine, don't pray to them. A lot of the doctrine points towards praying to saints as more or less just an aspect of solidarity, not something that is specifically salvific. I suspect when you've taken enough time to read into the doctrine, you'll understand what it actually is and you won't have such a problem with it later on.
I try to explain Mary/Saints to the average niggerball christians I know. Solidarity over salvific, like you said.
I pose it like this: most people have, in their own heads, "prayed" to a dead relative. Grandpa, if you could see me now, I'm about to make this touchdown, secure the job you wanted me to have, have my first child, etc. Usually, the person will agree they have done something similar. The concept of "put a good word in for me with God." This is just a quick nut shell explanation.
If you've prayed to God, there's nothing wrong with then asking Mary to put in a good word for you. I bet half of them or better understand it this way.
This is why I checked out and only interact when it benefits me.
Humans want to be manipulated into feeling good through cope and wishful thinking.
Your church is trash, I'm sorry, bit that's the brutal truth.
You could try starting you're own religion, with actual morals and self preservation. Don't forbid your holy men from having families though, that shit is fucking retarded.
Holy men WERE allowed to have families - up until the church got it’s own (((bank))) and they had to make sure that priests weren’t using (((church funds))) to raise families.
Everything retarded is because of jewish subversion - I can’t believe you retards still haven’t figured this out being on these websites for so long!
Shariah/shari'ah (the revealed law) from shar (revelation), hence allah (law of all)...most Christians and Muslims ignore this. A jew shapes these words to distract gentiles from natural law.
my only choice
Each ones free will of choice cannot be taken into possession (my) without contradicting it being free.
They can
They haven't yet. Your fear towards what they could, provides the power for what they can.
Church leadership is often older and honestly not able to adapt or belive that there are people who want them and those like them dead and ash just because.
[ + ] HeyJames
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Despite relying quite heavily on the “cast out” method in its own teachings and writings?
You talk about separation as if a condition of eternal separation (for all time) doesn’t have an infinite budget/cost.
[ + ] Razzoriel
[ - ] Razzoriel 0 points 2 hoursApr 30, 2025 12:22:58 ago (+0/-0)
This has nothing to do with nations, politics and geography. The Tower of Babel analogy stands because Jesus never rebuked it.
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You’re a litterbug who assumes nobody else is a litterbug. Its an unreasonable philosophy and it requires an infinite budget.
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[ + ] 1point21jiggawatts
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Biblical Christianity is not an organization, though it expects organizations to arise among it's followers, it teaches that we are our own priests and we don't need anyone but God, through faith in His Son and the guidance of his Holy Spirit, to find truth and salvation.
This limp-wristed false Christianity that teaches the one commandment of "be nice" is like a giant cult that super over-emphasizes "love they neighbor and pray for your enemies" into the WHOLE message in a super feminine way that literally emasculates it's followers. And it's so much easier to refuse to fight and blame your laziness and cowardice on a command from God, than to represent the very divisive person of Jesus of Nazareth accurately to a world that hates Him.
No, the scriptures say there is a time to hate and a time to kill, not just a time love and a time to heal. And yes the new testament agrees. With Jesus Himself not only showing an example of righteous violence but directly declaring in His own words His condemnation of people and hatred of their deeds.
Now it's true that there is a lot of tolerance taught in the Bible but it's more toward being self-sacrificing and not at all about tolerating evil like most "churches" today de facto teach. The whole first part of revelation is Jesus telling groups of believers what they're doing wrong and tolerating evil is his most prominent criticism and in one of the few rare times He actually praises something about a Church it's because of their intolerance of evil. (Rev 2:6)
So if you wonder why it keeps coming back to Jesus when you're trying to really get to the ultimate truth, but then you go look into it and all you see is fake or extremely watered down Christianity, of course it's going to look like stupid bullshit, because that's exactly what "they" set out to do, subvert it.
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36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
37 For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end.
38 And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough.
Luke 22 KJV
https://www.voat.xyz/viewpost?postid=68121386e8481&commentid=6812489f0edc2
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Do with that information what you will.
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The first Bibles were printed in 1455, Christopher Columbus landed in the Americas in 1492.
Also, Gutenberg got his financing from Fust, a merchant & banker but not a Rothschild. Izaak Elchanan didn't adopt the name Rothschild until the late 15th century.
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And that all happened in the 1800s. So no where near the first.
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Well, sounds like it's good to be a "loser". Might as well try to be the biggest "loser" possible.
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Lololol
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You should see how often they talk about geography in the koran!
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There is nothing about placating an enemy in Christianity. It's like OP has never heard of the Crusades.
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I didn’t say placating. But that’s what it is.
Relying on something from a thousand years ago that didn’t work… is an odd choice. Unless you’re talking about the Cathar Crusade i guess.
They’re quite extinct.
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The kikes feminized you and your understanding of Christianity.
[ + ] Nosferatjew
[ - ] Nosferatjew 1 point 3 hoursApr 30, 2025 11:25:18 ago (+1/-0)
I went to church on Easter and had a "conversation" with another man there, some bright-eyed beta dad-bod fellow, and it was like talking to a hollow-brained cult member. And all the singing... it was more than half singing, and the rest was all about how you to HAVE to forgive everyone for everything. Not kidding. 100% of the sermon was singing and/or "be a bitch and forgive everyone for everything" shit.
The last church I went to, prior to this Easter, the sermon was all about how the congregation needs to dig deeper and contribute more [money] to the church. Just get fucked already.
[ + ] SumerBreeze
[ - ] SumerBreeze 0 points 2 hoursApr 30, 2025 12:45:45 ago (+0/-0)
Luke 17:2
I’m sick of you beta retard bitches that won’t actually correct these bottom feeders
[ + ] Nosferatjew
[ - ] Nosferatjew -1 points 1 hourApr 30, 2025 13:12:00 ago (+0/-1)
[ + ] SumerBreeze
[ - ] SumerBreeze 0 points 1 hourApr 30, 2025 13:30:56 ago (+0/-0)*
You are supposed to be confrontational as a Christian, but now you are a judaised bitch that calls men betas while hiding in your safe zone.
[ + ] Nosferatjew
[ - ] Nosferatjew 0 points 50 minutesApr 30, 2025 14:02:43 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] SumerBreeze
[ - ] SumerBreeze 0 points 38 minutesApr 30, 2025 14:14:34 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Nosferatjew
[ - ] Nosferatjew 0 points 33 minutesApr 30, 2025 14:19:39 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] SumerBreeze
[ - ] SumerBreeze 0 points 8 minutesApr 30, 2025 14:44:24 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] UncleDoug
[ - ] UncleDoug 1 point 3 hoursApr 30, 2025 11:24:04 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] GlowNiggerDick
[ - ] GlowNiggerDick 1 point 3 hoursApr 30, 2025 11:23:48 ago (+2/-1)
[ + ] SumerBreeze
[ - ] SumerBreeze 0 points 2 hoursApr 30, 2025 12:41:11 ago (+0/-0)
You are a feminized kike, unfortunately.
If you are cornered and have no choice but to accept death, then you accept it peacefully. You better not be a faggotkike and allow those pedophiles to live.
[ + ] NoRefunds
[ - ] NoRefunds 1 point 3 hoursApr 30, 2025 11:22:00 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] Bassman9000
[ - ] Bassman9000 1 point 3 hoursApr 30, 2025 10:54:53 ago (+1/-0)
They took the profound truth that we possess a soul that is directly connected to God and weaponized it against the goyim.
[ + ] BloodyComet
[ - ] BloodyComet 1 point 3 hoursApr 30, 2025 10:53:43 ago (+3/-2)
Do you think a god of war or vengeance would be like "yeah just let them kill you"? No, their proscriptions would be "Gather all of the brave men, go and kill the enemy before they can kill you, bring victory to your people".
Remind me, what happened when Rome turned Christian? Who CRUSHED their asses? Who threw open the gates of Rome to welcome their own killers? Christians. Christianity was the knife slipped into Rome's back. Then, all of the Chad "barbarians" came and showed the utter lack of power the Christian faith had.
[ + ] SumerBreeze
[ - ] SumerBreeze 0 points 1 hourApr 30, 2025 13:38:47 ago (+0/-0)
Constantinople is what happened when Christianity took the best of Rome and flourished. They forbade jews from important roles and being educators…
[ + ] Anotherone
[ - ] Anotherone 1 point 4 hoursApr 30, 2025 10:48:56 ago (+1/-0)
They are born into nothing. Poverty isn't really something they grasp till they get to western countries. To them...value is in bloodlines and sons. .
Women are treated as property and I get you if there isn't empathy but I watched a teenage girl get her fucking head chopped off for the accusation of making a man lust for her.
This behavior makes them barbaric to me. Added no matter what your pastor, pope, decon, or bishop says...there are two types of Muslims.
There is the extreme Muslim that blows shit up, shoots people and is a terrorist, then you have the tolerant Muslim that will pick one side and it's always Allah.
They will harbor the extreme Muslim, they will feed that Muslim, they will do everything they can to ensure that extreme Muslim accomplishs his goal.
To you...they will smile and say Muslim is a religion of peace and harmony if you just give it time.
Yeah sure, fuck all of them. Countless is the amount we shot with small arms, countless is the number that were hit with rockets, missiles, ran over with tanks and striker APC.
They keep coming is what I am saying because average is 8 children for every woman...if a female cannon bear children she is killed. And she accepts that she must die.
99% of them realize their purpose as making more males. Eventually world will be Muslim people, won't be our lives, maybe not our kids either, but will definitely fucking all be Muslim.
They are locust as best i can describe. No innovation no civil engineering, they will absorb civilisations and say fuck it to upkeep.
Dubai is white people...that is who designed the skyline. Durkas were over infrastructure...go look at how well that functions.
Added that durkas love white women. They covet that like you can't imagine. It's weird how incapable of self control they are around just normal women. Let alone attractive ones.
In closing Muslims get no pleasant from me. I know what they become, and now hopefully some have an idea.
[ + ] CHIRO
[ - ] CHIRO 1 point 4 hoursApr 30, 2025 10:30:24 ago (+1/-0)
Some of the values you can abstract from this milieu are useful and good, like sacrifice for the sake of your people.
But applied in broad strokes to every threat you face in the world, it is suicide.
Jesus is not coming back when all but one Christian is dead. If God exists, God is very clearly an advocate of conflict for some higher purpose, or the world simply wouldn't be this brutal. The notion that one could simply hide beneath mom's skirt and hope for help to come along is so ignoble that to attach it to divinity should be considered the highest blasphemy.
[ + ] Reunto
[ - ] Reunto 1 point 2 hoursApr 30, 2025 12:27:40 ago (+1/-0)
That's speculation of course. It would require 1) an extremely in depth understanding of OT scripture and contemporary Jewish culture, 2) an extremely in depth understanding of Greco-Roman culture and philosophy in order to provide compatibility and the opportunity for integration.
I'll take my Catholic hat off for a second and talk from a secular perspective.
I always enjoy our chats, but I'll bring it up again in case an onlooker has thoughts or comments. I think I already understand your position on the topic, but I think there's value added bring it up again now and then.
Plato's the Republic offers a societal model that relies on the concept of a Philosopher King, which concept is fulfilled in Christ. It also relied on a concept of a motivating mysticism that compels people onto the ideal lifestyle. The motivating mysticism would be fulfilled in religious Christianity.
Because the philosophical following of Socrates/Plato was not a cult and that branch of Greek philosophy pointed towards the existence of a monotheistic all-God, it follows that the best fitting model for your theory was that the necessity for the coming of the Jewish Messiah during Jesus' time based on Jewish prophecies was the perfect motivating mysticism that Platonic philosophy needed. If the story of Jesus was simply a needed mystic motivator, it follows that the logic and structure of the Republic's society and its inherent aspects of Stoicism still merits attention and consideration (the motivating mysticism was explained as more or less just an onramp).
The motivating mysticism was explained in the chapter that deals with the Noble Lie. At the end of the book, there is a Noble Lie proposed, but it is easily substituted by something better fitting and adapted to the times.
It would make sense that an opportunity presented itself and the story of Jesus became the optimized version of the Noble Lie for the purpose of a motivating mysticism.
If that is the case, it would make sense to then evaluate Christianity merely as a means to getting to the point of a population adopting Socratic/Platonic principles. We should then be assessing whether those principles are good value.
Putting my Christian hat back on, the logic in the Republic was also that a truth is superior to a lie, therefore the perfect form of the Noble Lie is actually a Noble Truth. And by that, Greek philosophy was actually pointing towards a truth that was not fully known at the time. In the Bible, Paul acknowledges this concept in the verse referencing the "Altar of the unknown God". It's spelled out in Catholic doctrine that Jews came to understand Christ was coming by signs given to them, while Greeks came to understand Christ was coming by logic that was inuited by them.
Whether we take a religious or secular approach, we still need to evaluate the pros and cons of different models therein and how they inform societal behaviour.
Worse than suicidal on an individual scale, some schools of thought can be self-destructive/suicidal for the society itself. You can have strong Christian schools of thought that aren't suicidal from a societal perspective. It's important to emphasize the fact that changes and adaptations can happen within the Church in response to threats. Threat response requires a drive for self-preservation, which is something the Catholic Church has. Not all forms of Christianity would necessarily have that.
Job's suffering, as a means of proving the human spirit, is an example of this. From a secular perspective, that is just to say that your observation is consistent with the teachings of the doctrine.
I agree. And tying back into the Greek philosophy piece, I believe the stronger the reinforcement is to particular forms of Platonic philosophy mirroring the heart of Christianity, the more people will see the value in concepts that were laid out in those forms.
Some things call to action. I think it's a big piece many contemporary Christians lose perspective on. A failure to act and provide for your own is a bad thing in Christianity (cf 1 Tim 5:8) and Platonic philosophy.
[ + ] Razzoriel
[ - ] Razzoriel 1 point 4 hoursApr 30, 2025 10:12:26 ago (+1/-0)
[ + ] SumerBreeze
[ - ] SumerBreeze 0 points 1 hourApr 30, 2025 13:51:13 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Razzoriel
[ - ] Razzoriel 0 points 25 minutesApr 30, 2025 14:27:29 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] NaturalSelectionistWorker
[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker -1 points 1 hourApr 30, 2025 13:28:03 ago (+0/-1)
Now who was it that wrote almost the entire bible, who were the only witnesses to record Jesus' existence.... hopefully not the same people who run our banks and blackmail our politicians!
[ + ] namefagsrgay
[ - ] namefagsrgay 1 point 5 hoursApr 30, 2025 09:48:41 ago (+3/-2)
[ + ] JustALover
[ - ] JustALover 1 point 6 hoursApr 30, 2025 08:20:12 ago (+2/-1)
And then you'll get called a satanist or something for having brought up their masochism.
[ + ] Ducktalesooo000ooo
[ - ] Ducktalesooo000ooo 0 points 6 hoursApr 30, 2025 08:37:11 ago (+0/-0)
Lol
[ + ] BloodyComet
[ - ] BloodyComet 0 points 3 hoursApr 30, 2025 10:55:03 ago (+1/-1)
[ + ] Reunto
[ - ] Reunto 0 points 3 hoursApr 30, 2025 11:25:18 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] SumerBreeze
[ - ] SumerBreeze 0 points 1 hourApr 30, 2025 13:35:25 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] SumerBreeze
[ - ] SumerBreeze 0 points 1 hourApr 30, 2025 13:36:54 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] PoundOfFlesh
[ - ] PoundOfFlesh 0 points 56 minutesApr 30, 2025 13:56:22 ago (+0/-0)
Yes. And too many Whites have been convinced of this idea, thanks to the trojewn horse that is Christianity.
[ + ] SumerBreeze
[ - ] SumerBreeze 0 points 1 hourApr 30, 2025 13:32:19 ago (+0/-0)*
Luke 17:2
You will abandon everything in your life because you fold when it matters most.
[ + ] NaturalSelectionistWorker
[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 0 points 1 hourApr 30, 2025 13:23:42 ago (+0/-0)
But if you were any other movement, it would make perfect sense to expel the muslims.
Maybe you should find a movement that doesn't get its beliefs from jews.
[ + ] ruck_feddit
[ - ] ruck_feddit 0 points 2 hoursApr 30, 2025 12:06:21 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] SilentByAssociation
[ - ] SilentByAssociation 0 points 2 hoursApr 30, 2025 11:57:05 ago (+0/-0)*
If you want to hear someone refreshing, check out Sir Byron Rodgers. He's titled "Sir" as a result of his induction into the Knights of Malta. I don't yet know what that entails or implies, but I've added this point of fact just because. He only joined (accepted the invitation?) about 12 months ago.
Anyway, this was my first introduction to him nine years ago:
https://youtu.be/LdRyApxxBVQ
These days he's an executive protection specialist, runs Bravo Research Group, and he has Staccato and Deep Sentinel as the sponsors of his Man of Peace podcast. He's 16 episodes in as of the writing of this.
https://youtube.com/@sirbyronrodgers
Back to your post, there's discernment to be had. Tolerance IS NOT a virtue. It's the difference between participating in gossip, not participating in gossip, and shutting down gossip.
If you want to talk about Jesus coming back soon... is that another deception? Perhaps we're in the little season of Revelation 20. I've got some resources if you have an interest in that topic. I'm just now getting into it, but it's making sense to me this far.
(Edited for grammar/spelling)
[ + ] puremadness
[ - ] puremadness 0 points 2 hoursApr 30, 2025 11:53:19 ago (+0/-0)
Taking my ball.... going home.
[ + ] DivineLight2
[ - ] DivineLight2 0 points 3 hoursApr 30, 2025 11:50:46 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] NaturalSelectionistWorker
[ - ] NaturalSelectionistWorker 0 points 1 hourApr 30, 2025 13:29:05 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] 1point21jiggawatts
[ - ] 1point21jiggawatts 0 points 3 hoursApr 30, 2025 11:42:17 ago (+0/-0)*
Makes it really hard to find a good church because rejection of replacement theology with dispensationalism completely changes people's understanding of Christ and our position in relation to God.
For like 1800 years it was understood in virtually every religious group that called itself christian that "The True Israel" in God's eyes are those, who like the patriarch Abraham, the father of the jews, believed God and that belief was counted to him for righteousness.
It directly says so repeatedly in the text and it also says that the jews according to the flesh, meaning the blood descendants of Abraham, are are not counted as jews or the chosen or elect or the sons of Abraham (it uses several terms for the same idea of "the people of God") unless they also believe God now, which, it directly states, means believing His Son. In fact it says they are antichrist if they deny that Jesus was the messiah! These are direct statements and there are many more like them that prove it.
So now we have churches, even the ultra productive soul-winning churches that teach the true gospel of salvation by grace alone received through faith alone and not by our own works of righteousness or attempts at worthiness, who have their position in the world completely upside down because they bought into the dispensationalism that jewish publishing companies snuck into fundamentalist Bible schools.
Even the very few that have and share the true gospel AND refuse to ignore the true doctrine of replacement theology and rail against the synagogue of satan instead of worshipping it, are still run by fallible humans and you can bet that if someone is telling the truth loud enough every possible skeleton in their closet is going to get exposed to try to turn people off on them.
Case in point Steven Anderson and the NIFB churches. Doctrinally the most correct gospel-preaching churches probably left on earth but aside from all the slander and libel they endure they are also humans and we're messy creatures who have ugly things about us and "they" make that every single one of a loud public truth teller's embarrassing moments or moral failings are not just aired publicly but super hyped and dramatized so people don't listen to them.
If you want good preaching though from someone who isn't afraid to tell unpopular truths about jews, sodomites, unruly women and faggoty-ass men you're not gonna beat New IFB preachers like Steven Anderson. If you're stuck at the point where you don't think being in Christ is more important than a pure Aryan bloodline or whatever stupid shit, you won't like them cause half their pastors are hispanic but that's retarded.
And I can elaborate why, despite obvious differences in average potential and frankly innate moral tendencies, being a right-hearted christian indwelt with the Holy Spirit of God is more important than being white or european or whatever standard someone is going by, because even the worst person, if God chooses to use Him, is going to be doing more of what God wants than someone who is smarter and more empathetic by nature and is directing his efforts randomly according to his own notions of right and wrong, which only sometimes coincide entirely with God's view of things.
[ + ] drstrangergov
[ - ] drstrangergov 0 points 3 hoursApr 30, 2025 11:11:39 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Reunto
[ - ] Reunto 0 points 3 hoursApr 30, 2025 11:09:52 ago (+1/-1)
Apostolic succession and the recognition of the Church as a continuing entity is important. The institution defends the body of Christ.
Protestant churches have synods and other kinds of governments that the common church-going Christian protestant shrugs their shoulders over. Many of them have been taught that the institution doesn't matter and that there is no real need to strive for strong community. "Community just makes itself, right?"
The behaviour you are describing tells me that you aren't talking about a Catholic church.
If you want to defend Christianity, and be in a community that is eager to defend Christianity, I recommend at least contemplating giving Catholicism review.
If you want to keep leaning into Protestantism, Lutheranism is the closest thing. If you are ok with Lutheran doctrine, it's a very small gap to bridge in order to arrive at Catholicism.
Don't like the idea of praying to specific saints, etc? That's fine, don't pray to them. A lot of the doctrine points towards praying to saints as more or less just an aspect of solidarity, not something that is specifically salvific. I suspect when you've taken enough time to read into the doctrine, you'll understand what it actually is and you won't have such a problem with it later on.
[ + ] ruck_feddit
[ - ] ruck_feddit 2 points 2 hoursApr 30, 2025 12:16:03 ago (+2/-0)
I pose it like this: most people have, in their own heads, "prayed" to a dead relative. Grandpa, if you could see me now, I'm about to make this touchdown, secure the job you wanted me to have, have my first child, etc. Usually, the person will agree they have done something similar. The concept of "put a good word in for me with God." This is just a quick nut shell explanation.
If you've prayed to God, there's nothing wrong with then asking Mary to put in a good word for you. I bet half of them or better understand it this way.
[ + ] TheNoticing
[ - ] TheNoticing 0 points 4 hoursApr 30, 2025 10:17:00 ago (+0/-0)
[ + ] Her0n
[ - ] Her0n 0 points 5 hoursApr 30, 2025 09:39:03 ago (+1/-1)
This is why I checked out and only interact when it benefits me.
Humans want to be manipulated into feeling good through cope and wishful thinking.
Your church is trash, I'm sorry, bit that's the brutal truth.
You could try starting you're own religion, with actual morals and self preservation. Don't forbid your holy men from having families though, that shit is fucking retarded.
[ + ] SumerBreeze
[ - ] SumerBreeze 0 points 57 minutesApr 30, 2025 13:55:04 ago (+0/-0)
Everything retarded is because of jewish subversion - I can’t believe you retards still haven’t figured this out being on these websites for so long!
[ + ] ImplicationOverReason
[ - ] ImplicationOverReason 0 points 6 hoursApr 30, 2025 08:51:00 ago (+1/-1)
Shariah/shari'ah (the revealed law) from shar (revelation), hence allah (law of all)...most Christians and Muslims ignore this. A jew shapes these words to distract gentiles from natural law.
Each ones free will of choice cannot be taken into possession (my) without contradicting it being free.
They haven't yet. Your fear towards what they could, provides the power for what they can.
[ + ] Love240
[ - ] Love240 -1 points 6 hoursApr 30, 2025 08:29:06 ago (+1/-2)
Your relationship between you and God has nothing to do with some dude who just decided he wants to virtue signal advice as 'the holy man'.
Use the discernment God gives you.
Jesus is your savior, not Pastor "I'm such a good person".
[ + ] Ducktalesooo000ooo
[ - ] Ducktalesooo000ooo 0 points 6 hoursApr 30, 2025 08:36:49 ago (+0/-0)
Cast out, be not afraid
[ + ] Anotherone
[ - ] Anotherone 0 points 3 hoursApr 30, 2025 10:54:47 ago (+0/-0)
Church leadership is often older and honestly not able to adapt or belive that there are people who want them and those like them dead and ash just because.
Crusades happened for a reason.
[ + ] GrayDragon
[ - ] GrayDragon -2 points 4 hoursApr 30, 2025 10:11:14 ago (+0/-2)
[ + ] SumerBreeze
[ - ] SumerBreeze 0 points 2 hoursApr 30, 2025 12:46:04 ago (+0/-0)